Skip to comments.Gun Making: An American Cottage Industry
Posted on 07/14/2012 6:14:40 AM PDT by marktwain
I made my first fully operational hand gun while I was in junior high school. I carried that weapon on my person every where I went for a long time.
That zip gun was in addition to my 22 caliber squirrel gun and my Winchester Model 37 - 12 gauge shot gun with a 30 inch barrel, full choke. My Dad used to say you could place a dime on the end of that guns barrel and it would not fall into the barrel. It was murder on my shoulder.
My favorite gun was that homemade zip gunbecause I made it.
My point isfirearms are not that difficult to makein your very own garage.
Just for the heck of it, I had an Internet search engine look up sites for homemade guns and it returned no less that 2,510,000 sites dealing with that topic. Yeah, I WAS overwhelmed. I had expected a few thousand, but 2-1/2 million???
OK. So whats REALLY the point, you ask? Well, since you insistthe REAL point isthere is no way the government, or anyone else, will ever disarm America. Aint gonna happen.
Firearms are just too easily made with regular old home workshop tools. Heck, I found a site that offered plans for a homemade machine gun made with off-the-shelf parts assembled with ordinary home workshop tools! (If we had had computers back in the 40s and 50s Id have had one of those!)
Im bringing all this to your attention to point how utterly stupid it is for the United Nations and the gun-grabbers in the US governmentand any other governmentto believe they can control small arms and the manufacture and trade in same. It cannot be done. Not anymore.
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I was once told that many of the AK-47’s in use in the middle east were made by hand in cottage manufacturies in Pakistan. Many of which were of exceptional quality.
Things could become a bit dicey if - in a worst case scenario - the government seized all ammunition.
Probably never happen, but...
During WWII, the Sten - the british open-bolt 9mm submachine gun - was made in many, many home and plumber’s shops around Europe.
At one farm I used to hang around as a kid, the farmer used one of these things to slaughter sheep. It doesn’t officially exist, of course.
A 10,000% tax on ammo could happen, though.
What would cause one to believe that a populace capable of making a firearm is unable to make the ammunition?
By all that I’ve seen and read, there’s another cottage industry on the rise: Reloading.
A link to that website would be helpful. For informational purposes only, of course.
Off of whose shelf, of course. If Home Depot I’d be leery about ever trying to shoot the thing.
I’ve had this same discussion with Leftists.
Either they respond with a blank stare (mostly because they couldn’t put a nut on a bolt if their life depended on it) or they expect the next logical action - they’ll regulate machine tools, metalworking knowledge, metals, etc.
Apparently, there’s nothing the almighty state can’t accomplish with just a few more regulations.
That this technology is hundreds of years old and was accomplished with hand tools (which were themselves handmade) in the beginning doesn’t seem to phase them. That they would have to purge centuries of books in order to stamp out every last bit of firearms knowledge also doesn’t seem to bother them one wit. Their quest for utopia is too important.
But it’s the Right who are the “book burners”, anti-science, intolerant, etcetera.
You can certainly make your own black powder, smokeless might take some doing. A set of dies made on a lathe can turn out primer cups and anvils, you can make priming compounds out of several things. you can turn brass cases on a lathe (certainly not cost effective now, but if you had no other way)Ammo can be made from scratch.
If it comes to a full scale revolution, homemade pressurized flamethrowers, all sorts of weapons can be made.
I suspect that to get one that works properly you’d also need an item that might have been common in days of yore but is now rare: a blacksmith’s furnace.
I make the same argument about electronic communications. It’s about knowledge.
On one hand, I wish every politician knew this to show the futility of trying to outlaw guns. On the other hand, maybe it is better that they don't know, just for the fun of it.
A lot are made by children with half worn out files.
All I need is a car antenna, a clothes pin and a .22LR shell and I can make a very leathal hand gun. Accurate out to about 18”, but that might be all I need.
They're completely different technologies and raw materials, for one. And needed in vastly different volumes, for two.
“I suspect that to get one that works properly youd also need an item that might have been common in days of yore but is now rare: a blacksmiths furnace.”
Most of the key parts are in a propane grill to make one...
I shoot some surplus in the .30-06, 8MM Mauser, and .308, but that's about it.
Everything is pretty much handloads and I'm looking to get back into casting my own handgun bullets since I shoot mostly cast anyway.
You can certainly make your own black powder, smokeless might take some doing
During WWi Germans make an ersatz (subsitute) powder from
ammonium nitrate and charcoal ........
Making submachine guns is not difficult, making rifle caliber guns is more difficult, but not rocket science.
But the real crux of the issue is not guns at all, but ammunition. That was the case in the 1860’s and still is today.
I’m not talking about reloading brass, I’m talking about making brass from scratch. If you want to make more than a few rounds a day, you are going to need some very specialized equipment.
That’s a step I’ve been seriously considering looking into but haven’t done yet.
The knowledge is out there nonetheless. And in the occupied Philippines during WW2, the Americans who took to the hills as guerillas were reloading their own ammo until reliable supplies were coming in via submarine.
Electronics would be harder for the average Joe to raise up from scratch. Either the transistor or the tube is needed.
Depending on what you want to load, you can get a complete single stage setup for under $500.
Buy used and it’s a lot less.
Some tech savvy people are making uav’s in the garage. How hard would it be to make the jump to guided munitions?
Years ago I saw a WWII Norwegian underground film on how they were made.
***but is now rare: a blacksmiths furnace.***
Easy to make out of 1/4 inch steel plate, or a brake drum. The blower is a hair dryer. You can buy coal or design it to use propane. A propane and oxygen fire will get the steel hot real fast.
I used to shoe horses and still have my blacksmith tools.
Good article. I have been watching this start-up manufacturer. http://www.bobergarms.com/ Boberg Arms now has about 600 guns sold with rave reviews.
Here are a few. I believe the .22 at the bottom was made by a South American kid with a file out of a piece of railroad track.
Primers and powder would be tough too.
The movie AN AMERICAN GUERILLA IN THE PHILIPPINES shows a slam fire gun made of two pieces of water pipe.
All the parts are Mil-Spec, chambered in 5.56. Got exactly what I wanted the first time w/o modifications.
Same with drugs, and the end of the war on drugs will never happen.
Outlawing guns just gives the New World Order ruling class another tool to use as an excuse to kick in doors and take private property at will.
There is another film out there. Not exactly “making the rounds”, but available. Full step-by-step, with all the trimmings like materials, dimensions, tools and so on for a very nice 50cal sniper.
Just out of curiosity, could you beat this price?
I've been looking at them for a long time. They were out of stock for about a month, but back in now.
It has a gas piston rather than a direct impingement mechanism, which may or may not be a good thing. I sort of like it from the standpoint of decreased fouling.
But....should circumstance dictate the objective is upgrading ones system. Common household tools found in most home shops and garages can and have been used to obtain more sophisticated tools and consumables from existing stocks temporarily warehoused by others.
All the really cool items have already been paid for by taxes, sort of on a lay-a-way plan for concerned community activists. And bless their little blue hearts they've set up distributed storage in just about every neighborhood. Why even the Dept of Education has them. A little research and bang you're there.
It's a very progressive thing...ABCD tank.
Thought you might find this interesting.
I believe it is the case than many are missing the real fundamental point here: Prohibition has never worked, ever.
IF ammunition or firearms were to ever be 100% banned, I will be one of the first (of many) ones to find a way to manufacture it for sale on the black market. I'm not a lawbreaker generally speaking, but when it comes to this subject, Ill be first in line to capitalize on this as my own way of rebelling.
Ammo casings are quite simple to extrude even with a pre-WWII era multi-slide or a simple rudimentary press. Hell, even casting bullets can automated with very simple machinery (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=Xr7RCO49I60).
Simply put, there will never be a shortage of firearms or ammunition... the only question will be one of affordability.
Americans are pirates and hacks, it is in our blood to rebel and overcome. Never underestimate the drive of free will and downright stubbornness.
I'll paraphrase something I heard a while back:
In case of a tyrannical government, my guns are not intended to take on the enemy soldiers. I'm not going to defeat the army with a handgun. They are intended to allow me to capture the weapons of my enemy. They will get me the weapons of the soldier who is bored and inattentive, or sleeping, or follows a pretty girl into a dark alley. Then I'll take on the army with its own weapons...
The same holds true for ammo...
It would probably also be possible to get small enough pieces of metal sufficiently hot atop a normal gas or, with difficulty, even electric stove. The point of a purpose built blacksmith furnace is that it does the job more efficiently and uniformly with less mess than a converted grill or the like.
Guided munitions need works that, obviously, are shock resistant. Doing it is possible. Doing it economically is another question.
Story about the Arms Trade Treaty - Megan Kelly interviews Larry Pratt and KT Macfarland:
Petition to Rand Paul about the Arms Trade Treaty:
Gunowners of America:
It’s close. I got a chrome lined barrel and used a Rock River lower receiver.
Kit was from M&A Parts. I’d use them again.
Gas piston is an excellent choice.
It is much harder than it appears. I spent my career in Army R&D. There are an amazingly large number of ways for things to go wrong. The rest of the world's governments would love to be able to duplicate our "smart" weapons. They have not done it yet... I presume they will at some point... it is *not* easy.
I am looking bigger, literally.
Kinda difficult to go head to head with a government thats been invaded by a foreign interest and has better equipment.
My thought would be equipment readily available to build something that either launches weapons or a home brew long range rocket.
Any guess what would happen if a person used one of those punkin chuckers but instead was tossing containers of white phosphorus? Or building a redneck SCUD missile?
I took machine shop for a college course.
The more I think about it America may try to become like a Mad Max/ Road warrior society. So if anything its your vehicle that needs offensive weaponry.
Equipment for extruding brass is not simple nor common as you suggest.
Nor is making smokeless powder.
I think the real point is that if you always depend on the next fall back position, you run out of ground fast.
Put another way, if you wait until they come to get your gun to use it, you’ve waited way to long to use it.
Is there any doubt that were the government able to confiscate all the guns that criminals would find a way to manufacture them since its a very old technology anyway?..... ping
I had a real education today. I stopped into a local gun shop, run by a retired vet who has training with the Vegas PD, and is an instructor for local LEO’s.
He stocks both factory loads and reloads of specific calibers, mainly .38, .308 and .40 for reloads; factory loads for everything else. He explained to me that .22LR can be reloaded, but there’s a point of diminishing returns on labor and investment. He strongly recommended buying bricks of factory load .22LR and be done with it.
On the subject of .22’s, I saw the Ruger .22 handgun with a retrofit red-dot sight that I might get for my girls, an AR-7 rifle for plinking, and for The Bride, a Mossberg .22 short-stock. All can draw off the same ammo pool.
Of course, my baby will most likely be a Mossberg 500 Zombie...
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