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Federal funds [$1,000,000.00] to help Tulsans with criminal records find jobs
Urban Tulsa Weekly ^ | July 11, 2012 | Jaime Adame

Posted on 07/14/2012 6:55:00 AM PDT by kevcol

Among the dozen or so felons hired by Lou Ann Amstutz and her husband Andy over the years, not every worker has been a model employee.

But never has there been a workplace safety or theft problem, Lou Ann Amstutz said.

"The majority of them are so thankful to have a job that they're willing to go the extra mile because they're so appreciative that you've taken an interest in them, period," said Amstutz, chief executive officer and vice president of operations for Alpha Machining and Manufacturing.
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The million dollars in grant money will be going to the Community Service Council of Tulsa, one of only 18 such awards given out of 189 applications. The organization already helps felons find work, and received a $300,000 federal grant a few years ago for similar efforts focused on helping ex-offenders find employment.

The new grant money will focus on an effort tentatively called Tulsa Reentry One-Stop to be focused in north Tulsa, according to an abstract describing the proposal.

(Excerpt) Read more at urbantulsa.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: crime; obamavoters; taxes; waste
So...the family of a rape victim (for example) not only has to pay (through taxes) for the perp's legal defense and prison housing/food/medical, but now also has the honor of paying for their job training and placement - starting 3 months prior to their release from prison.
1 posted on 07/14/2012 6:55:04 AM PDT by kevcol
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To: kevcol

Get out the vote!


2 posted on 07/14/2012 7:00:24 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (America has enemies. And friends.)
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To: kevcol

So, before I look for work in Tulsa, what pays better, murder in the first degree or manslaughter after rape?


3 posted on 07/14/2012 7:01:43 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: kevcol

Perhaps... But then...

“Any kind of sex offense is pretty much just null and void,” Nelson said, explaining that most companies “if they do a background check, they more often than not are going to steer away from those folks.”


4 posted on 07/14/2012 7:03:07 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: kevcol

Get ready for your friendly repairman to be casing your house, raping and robbing you and your friendly newspapers and polticans to hide it and play it down. All that matters is that criminals are happy. We have been through this before.


5 posted on 07/14/2012 7:03:07 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: kevcol

Perhaps... But then...

“Any kind of sex offense is pretty much just null and void,” Nelson said, explaining that most companies “if they do a background check, they more often than not are going to steer away from those folks.”


6 posted on 07/14/2012 7:03:44 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: the invisib1e hand

So what is the cost per job?

“According to the abstract for the Tulsa project, the goal is to help 400 ex-offenders over two years, with a target of 60 percent employment for the group.”


7 posted on 07/14/2012 7:05:08 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: EGPWS
...what pays better,...

politician.

8 posted on 07/14/2012 7:07:04 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Until they’re sued by the person or the gov’t for not hiring them.


9 posted on 07/14/2012 7:08:18 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("Ambition Without Talent Is Sad - Talent Without Ambition Is Worse")
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To: kevcol

And the honest law abiding citizen who can’t get a job these people are being helped to get one?


10 posted on 07/14/2012 7:10:09 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("Ambition Without Talent Is Sad - Talent Without Ambition Is Worse")
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To: SkyDancer
Until they’re sued by the person or the gov’t for not hiring them

yep, that's the natural progression of this "program".
11 posted on 07/14/2012 7:10:44 AM PDT by kevcol
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To: going hot
Federal funds [$1,000,000.00] to help Tulsans with criminal records find jobs

I'm thinkin' cleaning roadsides, breaking rocks, making license plates.

12 posted on 07/14/2012 7:11:32 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: kevcol

Although I’m not in favor of tax dollars being used for this sort of program, I do think the principle isn’t wrong. If we’re not going to keep everyone who has ever committed a crime in jail for life, then they have to do something - like get a job - when they are released.

Christian ministries that work with inmates and with former inmates have many successes - people who live productive lives and do not commit additional crimes. They also have some failures, but that doesn’t mean we can afford to write off everyone who has ever gone to jail.


13 posted on 07/14/2012 7:17:03 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("For it is time to seek the LORD, until he come and rain down justice upon you.")
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To: kevcol

“So...the family of a rape victim (for example) not only has to pay (through taxes) for the perp’s legal defense and prison housing/food/medical, but now also has the honor of paying for their job training and placement - starting 3 months prior to their release from prison.”

On the other hand, that felon will collect welfare, food stamps, live in a homeless shelter and will probably commit more crimes which will cost the taxpayer even more.

If they committed a crime and paid their debt to society, I would prefer they have work and try to get their life back than worry about the recidivsm rate.


14 posted on 07/14/2012 7:18:20 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (ABO 2012)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

minimally


15 posted on 07/14/2012 7:19:52 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

I don’t disagree entirely, but I don’t think spending $1,000,000 in tax payer $$$ to employ (a ‘success’ target) 240 convicted felons will: keep them in those jobs, prevent them from committing crimes again anyhow, and collecting welfare/stamps regardless. Also, what if they reach the ‘60%’ target use that to justify rolling this thing out nationally? Another tax payer funded and bloated state institution, more opportunity for fraud, waste and creative numbers to justify it.


16 posted on 07/14/2012 7:34:09 AM PDT by kevcol
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To: kevcol
Federal funds [$1,000,000.00] to help Tulsans with criminal records find jobs

Well ain't that just special?

17 posted on 07/14/2012 7:41:54 AM PDT by Tupelo (TeaPartier ..... but no longer a Republican)
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To: Pikachu_Dad
"sex offense...null and void"

Hey, that's great news. Bring on the serial killers and the mass murderers.

18 posted on 07/14/2012 7:50:32 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: kevcol
Another tax payer funded and bloated state institution, more opportunity for fraud, waste and creative numbers to justify it.

240 felons * $20K a year in welfare, food stamps, medical, etc (rough guess on my part) = $4,800,000 They can employ 1/4 the felons they're planning on and still save money.

This is what welfare SHOULD be. Not a hand out, but a temporary hand extended to help you get up. And if you choose not to take that hand, well, just lay there then.
19 posted on 07/14/2012 8:22:47 AM PDT by Domalais
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To: SaraJohnson

Get ready for politicians to rant that your Saturday diy project is what’s holding the job market down.


20 posted on 07/14/2012 8:36:54 AM PDT by bgill
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To: kevcol

Total nonsense. Better we bring back the death penalty, but with some modifications. All appeals end in three years, then carry out the execution with a wood chipper machine. I’d even let it be on cable TV.


21 posted on 07/14/2012 10:28:10 AM PDT by RicocheT (Eat the rich only if you're certain it's your last meal)
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