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U.S. Navy scraps urinals to make war ships gender-neutral
Daily Mail ^ | 13 July 2012 | DAILY MAIL REPORTER

Posted on 07/14/2012 7:38:31 AM PDT by moonshot925

The U.S. Navy is scrapping urinals from new war ships because increasing numbers of female sailors are enlisting.

The change will be heralded by the Gerald R. Ford class of aircraft carriers, the first of which is due in late 2015.

Getting rid of urinals lets the Navy easily switch restrooms - or heads as they're called on the high seas - from male to female or vice versa, helping ships to adapt to the changing gender make up of crews.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gender; navy; repost; urinals; women
The removal of urinals began many years ago but I do not endorse it.

Ships with gravity flush CHT systems use 0.75 to 1.5 gallons per flush for urinals and 3 to 5 gallons per flush for water closets.

Vacuum freshwater (VCHT) systems use 1 pint per flush for urinals and 3 pints per flush for water closets.

Since the removal of urinals will require the expanded use of water closets, there will be a significant negative impact on holding capacity.

1 posted on 07/14/2012 7:38:45 AM PDT by moonshot925
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To: moonshot925

I’ve seen landlubber toilets with small and large flush buttons. That might take care of the liquids vs. solids issues.


2 posted on 07/14/2012 7:40:38 AM PDT by raccoonnookkeeper (I keep raccoons in a nook.)
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To: moonshot925

We Aim To Please.

Now where will I find target practice?


3 posted on 07/14/2012 7:42:53 AM PDT by bunkerhill7 (.We aim to please.? what??? Who knew? .)
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To: moonshot925

They will change their tune when men just start pissing all over the seats.


4 posted on 07/14/2012 7:48:17 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: moonshot925

Not to mention pissing on the toliet seats.


5 posted on 07/14/2012 7:49:09 AM PDT by kabar
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To: moonshot925

Aw, let ‘em piss off the side of the boat like everybody else . . . oops - never mind.


6 posted on 07/14/2012 7:50:42 AM PDT by Stosh
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To: moonshot925

Can you imagine the strife when the male sailors leave the seat down when they pee?


7 posted on 07/14/2012 7:51:42 AM PDT by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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To: kabar

Will the men be required to put the seat ‘down’ after they finish?


8 posted on 07/14/2012 7:54:14 AM PDT by Right Brother
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To: Stosh
"Aw, let ‘em piss off the side of the boat like everybody else . . . oops - never mind."

Just don't piss into the wind.

9 posted on 07/14/2012 7:56:11 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: Stosh
"Aw, let ‘em piss off the side of the boat like everybody else . . . oops - never mind."

Just don't piss into the wind.

10 posted on 07/14/2012 7:56:11 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: moonshot925

When I was in college one of the dorms was switched from male to female and then back to male due to fluctuations in the male - female ratio.

After a couple of years of female residency, the guys returned to find the urinals had been turned into planters


11 posted on 07/14/2012 7:56:49 AM PDT by slumber1 (Don't taze me bro!)
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To: moonshot925
Is Piss off now a standing order in the U.S. Navy? As in, "Piss off over the side. There's a girl in the head."
12 posted on 07/14/2012 7:57:31 AM PDT by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine.)
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To: kabar

I can see it now...article 15 for not putting the seat down !


13 posted on 07/14/2012 7:57:33 AM PDT by jrd (DO AWAY WITH THE EPA)
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To: kabar

I can see it now...article 15 for not putting the seat up or down !


14 posted on 07/14/2012 7:58:07 AM PDT by jrd (DO AWAY WITH THE EPA)
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To: slumber1

When the switched dorms at my college, the girls put goldfish in the urinals.


15 posted on 07/14/2012 8:04:44 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (If you could read my mind ... just count up the felonies!)
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To: jrd

Either that or males will be required to sit down to pee.


16 posted on 07/14/2012 8:05:04 AM PDT by kabar
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To: moonshot925

So, does that mean now I can tell a sailor he squats to pee?


17 posted on 07/14/2012 8:06:13 AM PDT by Gaffer (NOVEMBER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: moonshot925

In 1975 I was TDY in Iceland. Ferried between Keflavik and Hofn on a Navy Tail Dragger (Military DC-3)....in the back behind and ON the rear door, was a funnel and a tube that routed out through the bottom.....I wonder what they’d have to put in there nowdays?


18 posted on 07/14/2012 8:09:33 AM PDT by Gaffer (NOVEMBER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: bunkerhill7

“We Aim to Please. You Aim Too, Please.”

The Gender Restroom wars go on in both the Army and the Navy.

But when you’re in the desert rolling with the convoy & there’s a rest halt, guys face the front bumper & gals back up to it.


19 posted on 07/14/2012 8:09:43 AM PDT by elcid1970 (Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind. Deus vult!")
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To: moonshot925
Did I read somewhere that on the typical Navy vessel cruise something like one-third of the female sailors on board are pregnant when they return to port? Any sailors out there that can confirm this?
20 posted on 07/14/2012 8:10:31 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter Is No Longer The Worst President Of My Lifetime)
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To: kabar

That’s a good reason for a mutiny!


21 posted on 07/14/2012 8:13:20 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: moonshot925

If I was in the Navy I’d stop lifting the toilet seat.


22 posted on 07/14/2012 8:21:07 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: moonshot925

My first ship (1957) was an APA (troop transport) that went into service in 1943.

The troops quarters heads were like a sluice with water (salt?) flowing all the time and the troughs were built of steel and had seats that came down for the #2 business.

Of course this was about 20’ long and no dividers so it could handle as many people as could squeeze into the alloted space.

If the ship designers go back to this method it will be easier for the crew to get to know one another and the trough is already ‘gender ready’.

See, problem solved by ‘Old time technology’.

Now when some whisenheimer lights a roll of TP and drops it in the upper end, that may raise some eyebrows - well , arses anyway.

Of course, when the smaller ships start ‘rocking and rolling, pitching and dipping’ the water may start flowing in a different direction (ha)


23 posted on 07/14/2012 8:30:01 AM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: Gay State Conservative

I can confirm that is BS.


24 posted on 07/14/2012 8:31:19 AM PDT by moonshot925
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To: moonshot925

Now the female sailors can rush in, plop down on the “head” and find it covered with urine from those men who have a poor aim.


25 posted on 07/14/2012 8:37:56 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I LIKE ART! Click my name. See my web page.)
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To: moonshot925
easily switch restrooms - or heads as they're called on the high seas - from male to female or vice versa

Just how often will they be needing switch? Or is this really for the ones who can't decide which they are?

26 posted on 07/14/2012 8:46:03 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Gay State Conservative

I served long before all that foolishness but my prediction when I heard about women on ships was that the smart ones would return to port with a lot of money and the dumb ones would return pregnant. I don’t know how accurate that turned out to be.


27 posted on 07/14/2012 8:52:21 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Free healthcare is worth FAR LESS than it costs.)
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To: jrd

That would be a Captain’s Mast

Give everyone one of these and problem solved....http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/599452/The-Feminal-Female-Urinal/?Channel=Google&mr:trackingCode=A26EF2AA-BA8B-E111-9D68-90E2BA028069&mr:referralID=NA&cm_mmc=Mercent-_-Googlepla-_-Cleaning+Restroom_Supplies-_-599452&mr:adType=pla&mr:ad=22416592676&mr:keyword={keyword}


28 posted on 07/14/2012 8:53:43 AM PDT by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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To: Gaffer

I remember the NCIS episode when the team flew a military transport and Sasha Alexander had to urinate and Mark Harmon gestured to the funnel and tube.

She decided to wait.


29 posted on 07/14/2012 8:58:41 AM PDT by jayrunner
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To: moonshot925

I find the entire matter distasteful and ultimately disasterous.


30 posted on 07/14/2012 9:15:22 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: moonshot925
I can confirm that is BS.

OK,fair enough...I stand corrected.

31 posted on 07/14/2012 9:22:22 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter Is No Longer The Worst President Of My Lifetime)
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To: bunkerhill7

Leeward over the rail or over the stern.


32 posted on 07/14/2012 9:34:26 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: csmusaret

sorry I was in the Army but you get the point


33 posted on 07/14/2012 9:37:17 AM PDT by jrd (DO AWAY WITH THE EPA)
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To: bunkerhill7

I am quite sure, as this administration attempts to feminize everything, that all sailors will be required to squat.
I am sure the CiC already does so.


34 posted on 07/14/2012 9:40:23 AM PDT by ruesrose (It's possible to be clueless without being blonde.)
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To: DJ Taylor

And don’t pull the mask off that old Lone Ranger.


35 posted on 07/14/2012 9:48:09 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: jrd
When the 3rd Marines were TAD to Camp Pendelton in 74, we stayed in some old Quonset Huts. The Head and Shower were in Quonset huts down the end of the row. If you wanted to go, you had to walk about 100 ft to the head which had toilets 10 in a row with no partitions and the urinals were a trough. The showers were in the hut next door. And no one wore anything but a towel when they were going to the showers.
36 posted on 07/14/2012 9:49:23 AM PDT by JimC214
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To: JimC214

My second ship was a 30 year old cruiser with a 1200 psi steam plant. The first word passed after ‘Underway, shift colors’ was normally ‘The ship is now on water hours’. If you got a 1 minute shower more than once a week you were lucky.


37 posted on 07/14/2012 10:01:42 AM PDT by GreyHoundSailor
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To: moonshot925

Does this mean they can pee off the poop deck?


38 posted on 07/14/2012 10:07:04 AM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: slumber1

It’s kind of pathetic when penis envy drives policy, but I guess that’s where we are.


39 posted on 07/14/2012 10:24:51 AM PDT by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: JimC214

just don’t drop the soap and bend over to get it!...oh wait a minute that’s why they made soap on a rope!


40 posted on 07/14/2012 10:38:11 AM PDT by jrd (DO AWAY WITH THE EPA)
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To: csmusaret
That would be a Captain’s Mast

Each branch calls it something different but it all comes down to Article 15 of the UCMJ.And BTW...never tell a soldier to go clean the head.Unless,of course,he's a soldier who recently celebrated "Pride Week" at the White House.

41 posted on 07/14/2012 11:07:14 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter Is No Longer The Worst President Of My Lifetime)
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To: moonshot925

Wait until they start swapping the sit down heads for holes in the floor you squat over to take account of the increasing numbers of muslim recruits. . . . . . .


42 posted on 07/14/2012 12:17:54 PM PDT by Caulkhead
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To: moonshot925
Wait until the "green weenies" hear about that!
The U.S. Navy has been castrated?
43 posted on 07/14/2012 3:25:55 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: Right Brother
Will the men be required to put the seat ‘down’ after they finish?

No, men shall sit and piss...

44 posted on 07/14/2012 3:27:57 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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