Skip to comments.Judge upholds child support in Russian adoption
Posted on 07/14/2012 9:39:31 AM PDT by DFG
The Tennessee woman who ended her adoption of a 7-year-old Russian boy by putting him on a plane to Moscow by himself lost her bid Friday to keep from paying $150,000 in child support.
Torry Hansen made her first court appearance Friday in a case that began in April 2010 when she sent Artyom Saveliev away from her home in Shelbyville with a letter that said he had violent behavior problems and she no longer wanted to be his mother.
Criminal charges were never filed but the Seattle-based adoption agency she used, the World Association for Children and Parents, sued her last year for child support.
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As a matter of fact if I was this woman I’d sue the adoption agency for at least $150K charging them with having known that the kid was utterly uncontrollable..or at least having been in a position to suspect that he was...and also having known that he was living in a hellhole of an orphanage and then having failed to specifically warn her of these vital facts.
There is a procedure that parents can use when they can no longer deal with their adopted foreign children anymore. It’s sort of a reverse adoption. I know one couple who had a horrible time with their two adopted Russian children and turned them over to the state. Her husband died and she still visits them in the institution where they now live, but she realizes she can never take them home again. They’re just too dangerous to be around.
Nope,sorry..I don't know nearly enough about her at this time to even contemplate agreeing with that label.
a child is not a puppy you pick up at the pound
that you send back if it chews up the rug...
Although I've never had a puppy I can accept that that's common behavior for a puppy.But would a responsible pound (say,the ASPCA pound) seek to establish that the puppy is in good physical and psychological health before offering it for adoption? We both know the answer to that one.
I encourage you to read up on the general subject of Russian orphans.Find out how many there are (hint:many hundreds of thousands),find out how most of them become "orphans" (hint:drugs and alcohol are the prime causes),find out how many of them are ever reclaimed by parents/family (hint:"yah,right"),find out just how "spartan" the facilities are and the care their staffs provide is (hint: what's the English for "gulag"?). Finally,ask yourself....just how up front was the adoption agency regarding these huge issues? we recently bought a hair dryer that came with a big yellow label warning "do not use this item in the bathtub".Did the agency put a big label on the kid saying "Warning,it is distinctly possible that this child's mother used drugs or alcohol when she was carrying him...*and* that this child was malnourished,abused and neglected while in a filthy facility staffed by people who couldn't give a s**t and that no credible evaluation of this child's background,physical or psychological health has been carried out"?
OK,I can accept that *you've* never seen one.But in order to prove to me that such a child simply doesn't exist you're gonna have to show me both your medical degree and your acceptance as having been trained in pediatric neurology and psychiatry so that we can see that you're experienced in diagnosing and treating kids whose mothers were addicts or alcoholics while pregnant with them and kids who were criminally abused when very young by having been beaten severely on the head,causing a lasting brain injury.
I have a friend whose daughter and husband adopted a little 3 year old boy from Albania. I don’t know any of the details of his behavior problems except that he was taken to many specialists for help. His grandmother tearfully told me that he finally had to be placed in an institution with 24 hour care and supervision for his own safety and the rest of the family. Of course the family is paying for this, not the Government.
I believe there are dangers in adopting children from countries where alcoholism is rampant because of fetal alcolhol syndrome. Thorough screening for drugs and alcohol damage is essential, for starters.
On the other hand 3 or 4 years ago another couple adopted a little girl from a town very distant from Moscow who was very carefully screened. She is a joy to her parents and brothers.
As Gay State indicted, Russian orphanages are notorious for being hellholes. Violence, abuse, neglect, child rape. The likelihood of this child being seriously emotionally damaged are very high. No doubt this young boy has a host of issues that some people aren't prepared to handle. The most frightening, of course, is if he didn't make some kind of emotional attachment to someone in his young life; the chances of him being a true sociopath have skyrocketed.
On the other hand, if folks knew that going in, shame on them for not doing their utmost for him.
And we agree 100% on the nanny-state.
I have known folks who adopt Chinese girls - at least two families - and they have not had any unusual problem.
They adopted the children at fairly young ages (2 or 3), I suppose that makes a difference.
Not a foreign adoption story, but I know firs-hand of a person who took in her niece when the little girl was 3, because the poor girl was sexually abused by her own father. Everything seemed OK, until the girl hit puberty, and she just went wild. She ran away from home, she made false accusations against her aunt and uncle who had taken her in, started using drugs, etc.
She was institutionalized for a while, but when she was released, she was just as bad as ever. She ran away from home, and the only time her aunt and uncle hear from her is when she makes threats or begs for money.
It’s sad, but some children can be so scarred from abuse and neglect that they do not develop the normal human feelings that most children have. I am not suggesting that people don’t adopt; I think it’s marvellous, but they should be cautious, particularly with foreign adoptions.
She adopted so she is stuck melded with the Nanny State for life. Case in point: Hubby's ex-shrew is a CPS worker (Child Protective Services) who believes ANY chores given a child is abuse (emptying a small waste paper basket, etc.) and ANY correction is abuse (telling a child "no," etc.)
No matter what, hubby pays $1000 a month to her in matriarchy sup. . errr I mean "child" support from his $15 an hour HVAC job. She remarried promptly to a high five figures guy who is now "daddy." But I digress.