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Deadly shooting at Best Buy in Tulsa gang related
fox23.com ^ | 07/14/12 | fox 23 newsroom

Posted on 07/14/2012 3:06:18 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX

Tulsa police are investigating a deadly double shooting near the Best Buy at 5520 East Skelly Drive.

According to officers, around 2:30p.m. Saturday, a car pulled up to the Best Buy and a man inside got into an argument with another man standing out front. The man in the car pulled out a gun and shot at least nine bullets towards the store, said police.

The man involved in the argument was hit, along with an innocent bystander. The bystander was inside the store with his 4-year-old granddaughter.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: blacks; crime; gangs; tulsa
This used to be a nice area. I still can't believe this would happen in the middle of the afternoon on a busy Saturday.

Be in prayer for the family of the innocent bystander who was killed. How horrible for his little granddaughter.

1 posted on 07/14/2012 3:06:22 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX
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To: Pining_4_TX

Dear Tulsans,

Time for the white folk to move to Glenpool or Tulsa.

Sincerely,
Mayor Dewey Bartlett


2 posted on 07/14/2012 3:08:05 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Dear Tulsans,

Time for the white folk to move to Glenpool or Tulsa.

Sincerely,
Mayor Dewey Bartlett


3 posted on 07/14/2012 3:08:12 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Dear Tulsans,

Time for the white folk to move to Glenpool or Owasso.

Sincerely,
Mayor Dewey Bartlett


4 posted on 07/14/2012 3:08:36 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Bah, messed up on the first one. Ruined my own joke! ;-)


5 posted on 07/14/2012 3:09:40 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: Pining_4_TX

I was pulling for you and you did get it right


6 posted on 07/14/2012 3:11:30 PM PDT by sawmill trash (Gun control is like trying to solve drunk driving by making it harder for sober people to own cars.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Skelly drive is the nice south side of Tulsa. Decay is everywhere I guess even the nice side of Tulsa has probably changed too over the years.


7 posted on 07/14/2012 3:15:22 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: Pining_4_TX

I saw a shootout in Tulsa many years ago right in front of a Mexican restaurant. About 150 feet from me.


8 posted on 07/14/2012 3:16:07 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Pining_4_TX

It was a Trayvon wannabe getting even.


9 posted on 07/14/2012 3:26:42 PM PDT by pallis
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To: Pining_4_TX

Don’t tell me the shooter was a black guy? Say it ain’t so.

Romney’s fault I bet.


10 posted on 07/14/2012 3:28:51 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: sawmill trash

Ha, ha, thanks! I knew I could count on the forbearance of my fellow Freepers! :-)


11 posted on 07/14/2012 3:37:32 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

It’s even worse than you think. The mall on 71st Street is “iffy” now. I wasn’t kidding when I said people might have to move to Glenpool or Owasso.


12 posted on 07/14/2012 3:39:19 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: F15Eagle

Wow, that’s frightening! What part of town?


13 posted on 07/14/2012 3:40:01 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Send all gang members to Gitmo.


14 posted on 07/14/2012 3:41:07 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

Commenters on the local newspaper story on this tragedy are pointing to nearby Section 8 housing as a source of problems in the area.

“Innocent bystander” — oh how I hate that term, especially in this situation where it appears the man in the store couldn’t even know he was a “bystander” since the incident was occurring outside the store. I can’t begin to imagine being a family member of the in-store victim.


15 posted on 07/14/2012 3:41:40 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Obama voters.


16 posted on 07/14/2012 3:45:46 PM PDT by Tupelo (TeaPartier ..... but no longer a Republican)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

“So far we know they are looking for a black man, 5’ 8”, 160lbs.”

Okay, I won’t tell you. Surprise, surprise, surprise...

Seems it just keeps getting worse.


17 posted on 07/14/2012 3:50:23 PM PDT by Gator113 (***YOU GAVE it to Obama. I would have voted for NEWT.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: T-Bird45
Commenters on the local newspaper story on this tragedy are pointing to nearby Section 8 housing as a source of problems in the area.

Probobly true. Most of the people who live in that don't have anything to do all day except play scratch off lotto tickets, get drunk, get high, steal things, and cause trouble. I guess if we just gave them more of our hard earned cash they'd turn their lives around, get jobs, and become productive citizens.

18 posted on 07/14/2012 3:58:53 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Pining_4_TX

We have all done it at some time or other. I have done it several times. Usually I know the instant I hit post the second time but once in a while it seems to happen on it’s own.


19 posted on 07/14/2012 4:00:33 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Pining_4_TX

The last time I was in Best Buy, looking for a lap top deal, there were 3 young black women monopolizing the display, surfing the internet. They obviously weren’t buying and I was disgusted that Best Buy allowed them unlimited access. I was actually trying to compare models and I couldn’t with them there. I was there for probably an hour. Next time I need something I’ll buy online.


20 posted on 07/14/2012 4:03:57 PM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

..when you look at FACTS....whenever you have an “INFLUX” and conditions change for the worst.....it’s got to be the weather! They turn a blind eye to the obvious and look for remedies that only destroy.


21 posted on 07/14/2012 4:07:33 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Pining_4_TX
Miserable f*cks...

Folks, it's getting time to take out the trash for real. This shouldn't be happening in our country. Yet it is an everyday occurrence and all we get are pandering politicians, Liberal excuses, an enabling DOJ and Homeland Security, a Commie President, shyster lawyers, shrugging judges, race-baiting Al Sharptons and Louis Farrakhans, feral street rats everywhere, further threats against the law-abiding or those trying to protect themselves, and LaRaza goons demanding even more of our country.

Bring back genuine justice and the gallows. If "the system" can't make that work well enough, maybe it has to go to the next level - an enraged and engaged citizenry and the nearest stout tree or handy ditch.

22 posted on 07/14/2012 4:16:08 PM PDT by Gritty (Cultures in retreat quickly run out of places to retreat to - Mark Steyn)
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To: Gritty
Bring back genuine justice and the gallows.

Agree completely.

They shouldn't be afforded the respect and dignity that an execution by firing squad brings, the expense of the electric chair, or even the quiet 'slipping away' of lethal injection.

Just a hood pulled over the head and the snap of the rope.

23 posted on 07/14/2012 4:32:22 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: Pining_4_TX

“The mall on 71st Street is “iffy” now.”

Really? Lots of good shopping around that Mall.

I’ve been thinking about moving to the Tulsa area. Is Tulsa is going that down-hill?


24 posted on 07/14/2012 4:33:34 PM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: Gritty

In about 2006, my family moved into a furnished condo in a very nice area. With the housing crisis, it became obvious that some of the condos had been made Section 8. Feral youts and adults both took over the pool and we quit using it- big change from the couple of senior citizens and regular sunbathers. We bought a German Shepherd puppy and found a house in another very nice section of town- lots of $500,000+ homes. Unfortunately, there was a condo project in the center of it that went Section 8. I had to suffer a police helicopter circling overhead pretty much at least once a week. The grocery store had to be remolded to prevent theft and the stores next door locked their doors during the day. Then, a house that sat vacant for a year behind us went Section 8. I think the tenents lasted a month before the HOA kicked them out and I nearly called the cops on them twice. They absolutely trashed the beautiful home, too. I live in a guard gated community now with my dog and guns. I can’t believe what our country has come to.


25 posted on 07/14/2012 4:35:37 PM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth.)
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To: pops88

“I can’t believe what our country has come to.”

You gave the liberals to thank for that. A more misguided group of people the world has not seen.


26 posted on 07/14/2012 5:07:59 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: PastorBooks

I took a job in Tulsa in 2007 and moved my wife here in 2009. We moved here from Oklahoma City and I can’t say that it is significantly different with the usual places to avoid and knowing you can’t live in an urban area in “Condition White”. As far as Woodland Hills Mall is concerned, just the area’s traffic alone is enough for me to keep away, especially around Christmas. I’ve not heard of other problems there.


27 posted on 07/14/2012 5:19:45 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: pops88
We're very lucky in our area. First, there aren't that many people who "don't fit in", if you know what I mean. Second, the Section 8 tenants are screened so tightly they tend to be some of the least troublesome of all tenants. In fact, a typical street of owned houses might have more police calls.

I live in a guard gated community now with my dog and guns.

Problem with those is when TSHTF you'll all end up killing each other inside the gate. Sooner or later. Plus a magnet for the demographic you were talking about in your comment. I'm probably safer surrounded by our Section 8 tenants.

28 posted on 07/14/2012 5:19:45 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: steve86
I live in a guard gated community now with my dog and guns.

Problem with those is when TSHTF you'll all end up killing each other inside the gate. Sooner or later. Plus a magnet for the demographic you were talking about in your comment. I'm probably safer surrounded by our Section 8 tenants. ___________________________________________________________ Glad to hear your Section 8 tenants are so upstanding. I hope when TSHTF I'm a clean kill. I don't have much choice where I live at the moment. I go where God sends me. At least 4 ministries have been blessed over the last decade by my preps when I've had to move.
29 posted on 07/14/2012 5:26:29 PM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth.)
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To: Pining_4_TX
Diversity in action.
30 posted on 07/14/2012 5:34:23 PM PDT by Realman30 ("I've already made a donation to Haiti. It's called taxes". . . . El Rushbo.)
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To: pops88
...Section 8... I live in a guard gated community now with my dog and guns

Soon they will be coming for your guns and dog and will smash down your guarded gate. How dare you try to insulate yourself from the less fortunate among us?

Section 8 Housing brings the ghetto right to your own doorstep.

In saner times one might would ask, "What could the government possibly be thinking to do such a stupid thing?" - but I think we all know it's part of their master plan to destroy America and our free society from the ground up.

So, they are blockbusting us and overwhelming us with the trash they so cleverly spawned since LBJ's Great Society kicked in until all that is left is for us to call on them for help and plead for their mercy. In the end, they want us all living in Soviet-style apartment blocs full of their sympathetic gang enforcers who will control and exploit we weak, simpering, begging, impotent whitebreads completely. Just as we deserve. This is simply part of their plan. In their minds it is either accept that or the gulag.

Like I say, it is about time to take out the trash before the trash takes us out - and the trash does not consist exclusively of feral youts. They are just expendable and stupid foot soldiers. The trash chain goes much, much higher, even into guilded mansions and the highest halls of power...

31 posted on 07/14/2012 5:37:10 PM PDT by Gritty (Rather than building bridges, Obama is poisoning wells - Rep. Paul Ryan)
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To: Gator113

I’ll live dangerously and go get some fried chicken about 3:00am.


32 posted on 07/14/2012 5:44:48 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Gritty

“Soon they will be coming for your guns and dog”

They’d be better off meeting my gun than my dog. Death would be slightly quicker.


33 posted on 07/14/2012 5:45:12 PM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth.)
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To: steve86

“I’m probably safer surrounded by our Section 8 tenants.”

Nah, they’re just fattening you up for the feast.


34 posted on 07/14/2012 5:48:12 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: PastorBooks

Look at Broken Arrow instead of Tulsa. Much more pleasant there.


35 posted on 07/14/2012 6:04:53 PM PDT by A_Tradition_Continues (formerly known as Politicalwit ...05/28/98 Class of '98)
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To: Pining_4_TX

It’s time for vets in these communities to organize, arm themselves and then clean out their neighborhoods. If you gotta kill a few hundred, so what? You’re at war and these savages are attacking your children, your mothers and your grandparents. Kill them by the thousands, if necessary. That goes double for the mercenary traitors in the fascist federal bureaucracy.


36 posted on 07/14/2012 6:10:50 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Public unions exist to protect the unions from the taxpaying public)
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To: sergeantdave

when CW2 breaks out these areas will likely take care of themselves. The gang wars will start at the same time.


37 posted on 07/14/2012 6:30:09 PM PDT by cableguymn (For the first time in my life. I fear my country's government.)
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

***Skelly drive is the nice south side of Tulsa.***

Not south of I-44 Skelly Bypass and Peoria. Section 8 housing there.


38 posted on 07/14/2012 6:59:05 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I LIKE ART! Click my name. See my web page.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

***The mall on 71st Street is “iffy” now.***

When I lived there 41 years ago, the best spot in town was the SOUTHROADS mall (41 and Yale) across from Southland. All the shopping centers around 41 st were safe from Peoria to Mingo.


39 posted on 07/14/2012 7:02:30 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I LIKE ART! Click my name. See my web page.)
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To: Doogle

***whenever you have an “INFLUX” and conditions change for the worst***

Mingo and Admiral used to be a good place to shop, near Cotton’s Restaurant. Now it is more like Little Mexico.


40 posted on 07/14/2012 7:05:12 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I LIKE ART! Click my name. See my web page.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Don’t take me back to Tulsa!


41 posted on 07/14/2012 7:06:54 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

m13 LAND


42 posted on 07/14/2012 9:12:18 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Pining_4_TX

Sad, my hometown is on the ropes.


43 posted on 07/14/2012 9:59:57 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: PastorBooks

Tulsa has changed over the years, as all cities have. The good shopping area used to be around 41st and Yale (the area where this shooting occurred), then the main shopping area became the 71st street corridor. It is still quite busy along there with the Woodland Hills Mall and many other stores, and restaurants, but it is changing. There are several older apartment complexes along 71st, and I think they are all going Section 8. That’s where the problem starts. The mall isn’t too bad during the week, but we avoid it on weekends, especially at night. The security there is a joke.

Owasso is booming (although it has slowed a bit due to the layoffs at American Airlines), and there are many new stores and restaurants there. Broken Arrow, Bixby, and Jenks area also growing, although parts of Broken Arrow are experiencing some “thug” creep.

The newest shopping area is called Tulsa Hills and it is off of Hwy. 75 in Jenks. It is an open air mall, though, and not a traditional one like Woodland Hills.

The old money shops at Utica Square at 21st and Utica. They have stores like Restoration Hardware and Pottery Barn. The trendy area of town, Cherry Street, is near there. Lots of young people go there at night to party at the bars and restaurants, but it isn’t my cup of tea.

The streets are in dire need of repair and improvement, but the Chamber of Commerce types still want to spend citizens’ money on artsy-fartsy museums downtown and fanciful projects along the river.

Hope this helps.


44 posted on 07/14/2012 10:02:35 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: Revolting cat!

Yeah, I know. We would really like to move to the OKC area where most of our family lives, but my husband’s job is here. :-(


45 posted on 07/14/2012 10:04:58 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: pops88

Hmm...

You could always have said, “Excuse me young man, I’m interested in buying one of these. Would you mind stepping aside for a moment so I can take a closer look?”

Oh - maybe that wouldn’t be such a good idea... :-/


46 posted on 07/14/2012 10:54:56 PM PDT by muffaletaman (IMNSHO - I MIGHT be wrong, but I doubt it.)
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To: Pining_4_TX

That’s helpful... thanks!


47 posted on 07/15/2012 1:58:44 AM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

“Not south of I-44 Skelly Bypass and Peoria. Section 8 housing there.”

Does anyone have a map of the Section 8 areas?


48 posted on 07/15/2012 2:01:26 AM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: Pining_4_TX

Across from the mall. I was about to go out the door from Border’s Books (IIRC) when something stopped me. I hesitated for a few seconds and then walked out and watched the whole thing unfold about 10 or 15 sec later.

Actually there wasn’t anything frightening about it, oddly enough. However, I decided I might accidentally catch a ricochet so I picked an angle that put a building corner between me and possibly direct fire. I could look around and see what was up.


49 posted on 07/15/2012 5:12:56 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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