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Tacoma homeowner shoots man during attempted break-in(WA)
kirotv.com ^ | 12 July, 2012 | NA

Posted on 07/15/2012 6:06:04 AM PDT by marktwain

Tacoma resident shot a man who attempted to break into his home early Saturday morning, KIRO 7 Eyewitness News partner The Tacoma News Tribune reported.

The incident happened at a home in the 600 block of North Pine Street when a couple inside the home was awakened at about 2:10 a.m. by the sound of someone entering through their front door.

According to police, the husband shouted at the intruder that he was at the wrong house.

Police said the husband got his handgun as the intruder kept trying to break the door knob. The husband warned the intruder again, but the intruder did not heed warnings that the homeowner was carrying a gun, police said. The man fired a shot through the door which wounded the suspect.

The intruder suffered a non-lethal wound and was taken to a hospital to be treated.

Detectives will continue to investigate the incident.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: banglist; defense; home; wa
Shooting through the door is not usually recommended.
1 posted on 07/15/2012 6:06:16 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain; Clint N. Suhks; mylife; smokingfrog; lightman; SF_Redux

Why do those people (burglars/nutcases) always insist on coming thru the front door, with all that noise and breakage? Wouldn’t it make less noise to try a back window with a glass cutter/suction cup or somewhere less obvious? Just asking...


2 posted on 07/15/2012 6:15:18 AM PDT by carriage_hill (All libs and most dems think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: carriage_hill

You watch too much TV/movies. Have you ever tried cutting glass that is not fully supported on a work table, that is in a window frame, with a glass cutter? I haven’t either, but based on my experience with doing on a work table, I wouldn’t recommend it.


3 posted on 07/15/2012 6:21:04 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster

You mean that stuff on TV isn’t real?

</grin>


4 posted on 07/15/2012 6:24:50 AM PDT by carriage_hill (All libs and most dems think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: carriage_hill

In this case, it might have been a drunk at the wrong house.

Robbers that come through the front door will usually come 2 or 3 at a time, are well armed and know ahead of time that there is something valuable in the house. They will be inside your house before you have time to react most of the time.


5 posted on 07/15/2012 6:43:19 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: carriage_hill

Usually because they are drunk or drugged out of their mind. Sometimes, especially in domestic cases, it is adrenaline/testosterone fueled rage.


6 posted on 07/15/2012 7:05:16 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: FreedomPoster
However, covering the pane with duct tape, then breaking it with pressure is pretty quiet and doesn't make a big mess.

One of those things they teach in culinary school. ;)

/johnny

7 posted on 07/15/2012 9:35:27 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: marktwain

Shooting through the door is illegal in California and will get you convicted.

The magic words in Calfornia are “I was in fear for my life”.

You can be in fear for life with some nutjob pounding violently on the door. I’ve been there myself and I can tell you I was plenty fearful because the next step seemed imminent.

The bottom line is, it would be hard to convince a California jury that a person on the other side of a locked door is a threat. How can you be 100% sure it isn’t a kid being stupid or a mentally deficient individual.

Bad as it is, you really are stuck having to wait until the criminal successfully breaches your door before you shoot. In my own home, my best strategy would be to retreat into the hall at the ready. Frankly, as long as that door holds, I don’t have to deal with what is behind it, and I like it that way. I don’t want to go to court and don’t want a shooting on my conscience. Not even a good shoot in self defense.

If I can make it to the end of my life without drawing blood from anyone, I’ll be a happy camper.


8 posted on 07/15/2012 12:53:56 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: carriage_hill

Glass cutter? Suction cup?

Criminals don’t have that kind of intelligence.

Most criminals are just selfish punks with low empathy. They are opportunists. They see an opportunity for gain at low risk, and they just take what they want.

They aren’t even good at crime.

The average person from Free Republic would be vastly more successful at perpetrating crimes without capture, than your garden variety idiot bozo criminal. Seriously. People here are capable of planning ahead, researching, assessing risk, and executing on a plan.

I mean, if I murdered someone, I wouldn’t dump him in the local empty lot. I would put him in the trunk and drive all night, half way across the nation if need be, and bury him on some empty rural land that isn’t likely to be visited by people for years. I mean, you can drive 500 feet off the road in places in Nevada, New Mexico or Utah where nobody ever stops unless they break down and there is nothing in either direction for 20 miles, and just bury him 100 feet off the road.

If I were a burglar, I would stay at a hotel and then rob subdivisions far from my home.

Criminals rob people in their neighborhood and their daily walk. Criminals are generally lazy. Planning and executing an intelligent crime is too much work for them and gives them a headache.

Your average criminal is just a punk who sees an opportunity for gain without getting caught, and takes it.

Now add drug use into the mix, and you’ve got someone barely capable of thought.


9 posted on 07/15/2012 1:03:30 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: carriage_hill

Glass cutter? Suction cup?

Criminals don’t have that kind of intelligence.

Most criminals are just selfish punks with low empathy. They are opportunists. They see an opportunity for gain at low risk, and they just take what they want.

They aren’t even good at crime.

The average person from Free Republic would be vastly more successful at perpetrating crimes without capture, than your garden variety idiot bozo criminal. Seriously. People here are capable of planning ahead, researching, assessing risk, and executing on a plan.

I mean, if I murdered someone, I wouldn’t dump him in the local empty lot. I would put him in the trunk and drive all night, half way across the nation if need be, and bury him on some empty rural land that isn’t likely to be visited by people for years. I mean, you can drive 500 feet off the road in places in Nevada, New Mexico or Utah where nobody ever stops unless they break down and there is nothing in either direction for 20 miles, and just bury him 100 feet off the road.

If I were a burglar, I would stay at a hotel and then rob subdivisions far from my home.

Criminals rob people in their neighborhood and their daily walk. Criminals are generally lazy. Planning and executing an intelligent crime is too much work for them and gives them a headache.

Your average criminal is just a punk who sees an opportunity for gain without getting caught, and takes it.

Now add drug use into the mix, and you’ve got someone barely capable of thought.


10 posted on 07/15/2012 1:03:59 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

Excellent point.


11 posted on 07/15/2012 4:19:47 PM PDT by carriage_hill (All libs and most dems think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: smokingfrog

I’m wondering if the ‘Castle Doctrine/Stand Your Ground’ covers shooting thru a door at an assumed threat? 2-3 coming thru at a time presents a lot of ‘centermass’, doesn’t it? LOL.


12 posted on 07/15/2012 4:34:05 PM PDT by carriage_hill (All libs and most dems think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: marktwain

All the more reason they present a clear life threat, and to shoot them, IMO.


13 posted on 07/15/2012 4:36:53 PM PDT by carriage_hill (All libs and most dems think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: carriage_hill
I’m wondering if the ‘Castle Doctrine/Stand Your Ground’ covers shooting thru a door at an assumed threat? 2-3 coming thru at a time presents a lot of ‘centermass’, doesn’t it? LOL.

I would be worried about multiple rounds traveling beyond your residence and perhaps striking a neighbor's home across from yours. A better defense would be to see your target and shoot accordingly. Not a good idea to shoot through the door, especially multiple times.

Might be an idea to keep a pressurized party air horn (of the variety used at sporting events), and blast it near the door or out an open window. That might be enough to frighten off the perp, and also alert neighbors to take a peek. (I keep an air horn handy just in case.)

14 posted on 07/15/2012 8:21:40 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: roadcat

That’s a darned good idea. I have one, but need some cans of compressed air, which I’ll pick-up today. I still like to hear Mr Kimber and Mr Remy ***bark***, though... but prudence is wise. Thanks for the tip.


15 posted on 07/16/2012 3:32:37 AM PDT by carriage_hill (All libs and most dems think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: roadcat
Maybe I can rig-up an air-horn on a Picatinny Rail, on this:
16 posted on 07/16/2012 3:40:40 AM PDT by carriage_hill (All libs and most dems think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: carriage_hill
Quite a while back, my neighbor's adult daughter would play her stereo full blast each morning, with the bass turned way up, after her dad went to work. The walls of our house would vibrate with the "boom, boom, boom" of rap music. Annoying, particularly at 7 am. Of course, when cops came the house would be silent. So I bought an air horn. When she played the music, I would stand at my fence towards her open window 4 feet away and give a couple loud blasts of the air horn. After a couple times, she stopped the loud music. It also works pretty good on shutting up their pit bull when it barks, one blast through the fence boards.

Air horns are good non-lethal tools to have around.

17 posted on 07/16/2012 11:46:14 AM PDT by roadcat
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To: carriage_hill

Damn, I thought I had a lot of stuff attached to my Mossberg 590! The key ring on your pic doesn’t look too stealthy.


18 posted on 07/16/2012 11:49:56 AM PDT by roadcat
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To: roadcat
That pic ain't mine! LOL. All of my firearms (many Class IIIs) are *clean*, except for various Leupold glass, BORS (Barrett .50), lasers & suppressors. You're right, that keychain might just as well be a clanging cowbell.
19 posted on 07/16/2012 2:00:10 PM PDT by carriage_hill (All libs and most dems think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: roadcat

I picked-up 5 refill cans of comp air at a local Ace Hardware today, since they were on sale from $24.90ea to 5 for $50.00!

http://safetycentral.com/airhoemalstr.html

Stored in a cool, dry basement with my SHTF supplies, the 4 extras will keep for many years, sealed.


20 posted on 07/16/2012 2:14:55 PM PDT by carriage_hill (All libs and most dems think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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