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We're sorry -- that's all we want to hear from the Penn State apologists
CBS Sports ^ | July 12, 2012 | Gregg Doyle

Posted on 07/15/2012 6:48:03 AM PDT by Zakeet

You're sorry.

That's all I want to hear from Penn State today. It's all I want to hear from Joe Paterno's family. It's all I want to hear from Graham Spanier, Tim Curley, Gary Schultz. From the Board of Trustees. From Penn State fans.

You're sorry.

Why can't you say that? Why haven't any of you said that?

The Freeh Report was released Thursday morning, released to much fanfare, though I haven't the foggiest idea why. There was nothing special in the Freeh Report. Nothing we didn't already know. Jerry Sandusky raped kids for years? We knew that -- he has been convicted.

Penn State officials chose not to stop it? We knew that -- Jerry Sandusky raped kids for years.

But what we don't know, what we're about to find out, is how Penn State responds.

[Snip]

Penn State officials, those now still in charge? Apologize for what was allowed to happen, at your great school. Jerry Sandusky is your legacy, and so is the coverup that kept him free for years, and we're tired of fighting you about it. It happened. You can't just change the subject like you're changing the channel on the TV at the student center when CNN broke the Freeh Report on Thursday morning. Don't tell us what's wrong with the Freeh Report. Tell us you're sorry.

[Snip]

Apologize to the world -- for God's sake, apologize to the victims -- for not stopping it when you could. And then apologize again for defending yourself so vigorously since November. That's just another layer that none of us can understand, your need to put your own welfare above everything else once this scandal went public.

[Snip]

What does the world want to hear? We want to hear that you're sorry.

You are sorry, aren't you?

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: absolutemorals; homosexualagenda; pennstate; sandusky

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1 posted on 07/15/2012 6:48:19 AM PDT by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet
Why can't you say that? Why haven't any of you said that?

In this litigious society, one would be ill advised to say "I'm sorry".

2 posted on 07/15/2012 6:56:18 AM PDT by Paradox (I want Obama defeated. Period.)
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To: Zakeet

We also want to hear them say “I resign” and “I plead guilty, your honor”


3 posted on 07/15/2012 6:58:20 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Paradox

exactly what i was thinking and exactly what should have been told to the writer before going to press with that.


4 posted on 07/15/2012 6:59:25 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Zakeet

Their whole football program should be completely shut down for what was allowed to go on there for years and years.


5 posted on 07/15/2012 7:15:59 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Costos on sun show said most likely they will shut it down for at least a year..if Penn State doesn’t, the NFL will.


6 posted on 07/15/2012 7:21:16 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: Zakeet

Instead of trying to continue the equivocation and cover up they should be concentrating on how they are going to fairly disperse their endowment fund to compensate the victims.

As far as I’m concerned the school should be totally banned from college football for the foreseeable future and the football program at the college should be shut down in its entirety. The court should order them to salt the football field.

And as long as they still have employees or board members who were in a position of authority or responsibility and had the slightest connection with this heinous crime they should not even be allowed to apply for reinstatement of a football program.


7 posted on 07/15/2012 7:33:00 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("Jiggle the Handle for Barry!")
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8 posted on 07/15/2012 7:36:35 AM PDT by randita
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
Costos on sun show said most likely they will shut it down for at least a year..if Penn State doesn’t, the NFL will.

The NFL?

9 posted on 07/15/2012 7:55:42 AM PDT by OldPossum ( "it's" is the contraction of either "it is" or "it has"; "its" is the possessive pronoun)
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To: OldPossum
The NFL?

Forget it, he's rolling.

10 posted on 07/15/2012 8:01:52 AM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: Zakeet
That's what happens when you “worship” a man, a sport, or a school. “Sorry”???? Would that make things okay? The only person you can say “I'm sorry” to, that would make ANY difference, is Jesus.

Forget “I'm sorry”. Just ostracize this school and anyone who had anything to do with it, to the point that the school CLOSES.

How many people turned a blind eye? Probably everyone that worked there (rumors etc.).

“We here at Penn State apologize to anyone we have offended, now let's play ball!”

11 posted on 07/15/2012 8:03:12 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: faucetman

“We here at Penn State apologize to anyone we have offended, now let’s play ball!” (sarc)

Sorry, forgot the “sarc” tag.


12 posted on 07/15/2012 8:05:34 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

It will be. The school is deader than a doornail. Once all the lawsuits come in, the school will be completely flattened financially, the state of Pennsylvania will struggle for years because of this.

Now, that being said, I will add, homosexuality is wrong and depraved and puts little boys at risk of being destroyed by perverts. Football millions do not trump the life of one single child. The coach and his agenda are chaff compared to the life of one single child. Any apologists, you are each and every one of you, jointly and severally worth less than one single child. It is written, I shall search for the wicked and they shall be gone. God will have his will done and the wicked shall not prosper. Just watch.


13 posted on 07/15/2012 9:21:12 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

It will be. The school is deader than a doornail. Once all the lawsuits come in, the school will be completely flattened financially, the state of Pennsylvania will struggle for years because of this.

Now, that being said, I will add, homosexuality is wrong and depraved and puts little boys at risk of being destroyed by perverts. Football millions do not trump the life of one single child. The coach and his agenda are chaff compared to the life of one single child. Any apologists, you are each and every one of you, jointly and severally worth less than one single child. It is written, I shall search for the wicked and they shall be gone. God will have his will done and the wicked shall not prosper. Just watch.


14 posted on 07/15/2012 9:21:22 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Pedd State football should be shutdown for good.


15 posted on 07/15/2012 9:26:46 AM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: yldstrk
It will be. The school is deader than a doornail. Once all the lawsuits come in, the school will be completely flattened financially, the state of Pennsylvania will struggle for years because of this.

I thought the school wasn't a state run school.

This is the same school that hides Micheal Mann's fraud so it won't be a bad thing if Penn. state goes under

16 posted on 07/15/2012 9:42:42 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: OldPossum

I guess it would be entirely within the perview of the NFL to declare Penn State program players ineligible to play in the for three or four years after graduation.

As a matter of fact, it might be a damned good PR move, in the mold of Micheal Vick’s suspension.


17 posted on 07/15/2012 9:44:36 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: wiggen; Paradox

“In this litigious society, one would be ill advised to say “I’m sorry”.”

“exactly what i was thinking and exactly what should have been told to the writer before going to press with that.”

Please pardon my “French”, especially on a Sunday, but I say to H*!! with lawyers! The writer is most likely well aware that lawyers think they rule the roost. He is calling on Penn State to do the right thing, regardless.

Do the Right Thing for once!

(either one of you lawyers?)


18 posted on 07/15/2012 9:48:12 AM PDT by BwanaNdege (Man has often lost his way, but modern man has lost his address - Gilbert K. Chesterton)
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To: Zakeet

We are a country that is in the process of accepting homosexual marriage and homosexual adoption. We know these children will be abused but we are too frightened to speak of it. This country is becoming Penn State.


19 posted on 07/15/2012 10:41:20 AM PDT by donna (Mitt quote: ..gay couples raising kids. That's the American way..(Penn St feels same about showers))
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One homosexual pedo and a handful of enablers did an incredible amount of damage. Why not stick to bringing the homo-pedo and enablers to justice instead of shutting down the football program when the players had no idea what was going on?


20 posted on 07/15/2012 11:45:57 AM PDT by Hayride
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To: Zakeet
Plenty of people bashed the Catholic Church for their pedophile priests. I noticed they don't rush to the same level of judgment with Penn State.

It just shows that hypocrisy isn't just a church phenomenon.

21 posted on 07/15/2012 1:00:52 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: donna

“We are a country that is in the process of accepting homosexual marriage and homosexual adoption. We know these children will be abused but we are too frightened to speak of it. This country is becoming Penn State.”

Yes, bankrupt cities and “bankrupt” colleges and universities. The first has lost all the taxpayers money, and the second should be receiving the same fate. We are going to winnow the “herd” in more than one place and one of those “places” should be “higher education.” Time for the worthless, overpaid “profs” to go get a real job for a change. And it’s long past time when we should “listen” to the “legal community” for their “advice” on moral behavior. As a county, we would be a whole lot better off with fewer profs and lawyers.


22 posted on 07/15/2012 2:51:36 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: wiggen

I take it as rhetorical. It does illustrate that the litigious society does have a tendency to encourage dodging of moral responsibility. Nothing is ever a wrong for which forgiveness must be asked. Everything is an inadvertent mistake or an oversight. (Broadly generalizing here of course but I hope to get the idea across.)


23 posted on 07/15/2012 3:12:25 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew)
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To: HarleyD

Penn only had one pedophile (to best of knowledge) but still, the wink wink or not my job mon factor was huge. And, as the Catholic church officially tries to carry on in a holy manner, the Second Mile program officially tried to help troubled kids.


24 posted on 07/15/2012 3:16:11 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew)
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To: Hayride

I wonder about whether the players knew or not. Some janitors were questioned and had seen abuse but said nothing for fear of their jobs (Joe having them fired). That hundreds of kids could come through the program and be unaware of this mess I find difficult to grasp. Maybe they didnt know. Who knows, the whole thing is mind-boggling.


25 posted on 07/15/2012 3:31:28 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch ( if you love, you will not condemn, and if you condemn, you cannot love)
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To: yldstrk
I don't know.

First of all, football is a huge sport. Almost like a religion. Even with the rape, there are many fans who will go on supporting Penn State.

Second, the NCAA, the Big 10, and TV all stand to loose a lot of money if Penn State gets the death penalty. It ended SMU football for decades, and no one involved wants to stop that gravey train for a tier 1 school like Penn State.

Third. Sandusky was connected. Grahmn was connected (look into the Franklin Scandal in Nebraska to see how much). They will sacrifice a few, but I suspect this goes much higher than anyone will be allowed to see. By this time next year, it will be a foot note to all but the victims, who will be hounded and blamed (seen it happen) for hurting the religion of football.

26 posted on 07/15/2012 3:39:31 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Paradox
If they say it, it will be followed by "...that we got caught".


27 posted on 07/15/2012 5:16:28 PM PDT by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
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To: Zakeet

“You’re sorry.

That’s all I want to hear from Penn State today. It’s all I want to hear from Joe Paterno’s family. It’s all I want to hear from Graham Spanier, Tim Curley, Gary Schultz. From the Board of Trustees. From Penn State fans.

You’re sorry.

Why can’t you say that? Why haven’t any of you said that?

Because they aren’t sorry. They wish people everywhere would just do what they did, sweep it all under the carpet and ignore it. Like an out of control alcoholic they need to hit rock bottom and that isn’t going to happen as long as they can look forward to a full stadium on Saturday afternoons.


28 posted on 07/15/2012 5:27:59 PM PDT by Cdnexpat
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To: OldPossum

duh...uh...NCCA. ( NFL OR NCCA....both big business)


29 posted on 07/15/2012 5:54:43 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: Zakeet
Alright, Doyle, you moron... I'll explain it to you (and I'll use small words, so you'll be sure to understand).

For all of the people who didn't know what was happening (i.e. the fans... which I'm not one... I hate Penn State, the rest of the school, etc.), apologizing would be both stupid and meaningless. It would be like Obama apologizing to the Japanese for bombing Hiroshima (wait, he did what!?!?!). If these Penn State grads or fans didn't know or have anything to do with the rapes... then they owe nothing! Their apologies would be worthless.

And as far as the people who WERE responsible, knowledgeable, or involved... who wants their apologies? What good would an apology do the raped kids? I want them to grow old in a 5X5 metal cage, pining out the window for the free air they'll never breathe again. But somehow saying "I'm sorry" will make any of this better? Screw that! Apology NOT accepted! Now burn in hell.

This whole apology thing is stupid. Those words won't do a darn thing to fix anything that happened. This is just a bunch of media prima donnas who get off on expressing their "outrage" (all designed to show how great or enlightened they are). These'll be the same folks who express "outrage" at Rush Limbaugh for daring to try to own a football team (after what he said about that poor slu... er, I mean girl).

And nobody owes you, Mr. Doyle, anything. Period!

30 posted on 07/15/2012 6:01:49 PM PDT by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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To: HarleyD

And many defended both as well.


31 posted on 07/15/2012 6:04:59 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: ex91B10

Yes, clearly, their only concern is protecting the school not in doing the right thing.


32 posted on 07/15/2012 6:06:34 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)

Heh. I’m an alum and fan. I have nothing to apologize for - I didn’t commit any crime.

Penn State (the University Park campus and the many campuses across the State) won’t be shut down. The football program will probably continue also. I really can’t see the program being penalized nor should the athletes be punished for something they had no part in, imo.

I’d be thrilled if the entire Board of Trustees were ousted but that’s not happening either.


33 posted on 07/15/2012 6:51:45 PM PDT by Twink
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To: Zakeet
No, THIS is what I want to hear!
34 posted on 07/15/2012 7:31:44 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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To: BwanaNdege

Not a lawyer but you can bet PSU lawyers have told these people to shut up.


35 posted on 07/15/2012 10:40:11 PM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Zakeet

LOL!
Typical scumbag liberal Democrat sportsmouse, begging for the ultimate meaningless words, “I’m sorry”. I guess apologies make liberals feel good about themselves somehow, like, “See? I was finally right about something...!”

Liberals are always looking for “apologies”, as if an apology accomplishes ANYTHING, anything at ALL. Who can forget that liberal mouse David Gregory (and others of his liberal Democrat ilk for that matter) beginning his questions at Bush press conferences with, “When are you going to apologize for...?”


36 posted on 07/15/2012 11:02:46 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: donna
We are a country that is in the process of accepting homosexual marriage and homosexual adoption. We know these children will be abused but we are too frightened to speak of it. This country is becoming Penn State.

That's an excellent point right there. In fact, just try to find any Democrat "mainstream" newsroom story about the Sandusky / Penn State scandal that uses the phrase "homosexual pedophile" and you will never find one. It's not politically correct to point out that Sandusky is a homosexual, you see. That part of the story is off limits. The "homosexual" part was, and has always been, the elephant in the living room when it comes to the Penn State scandal. Had Sandusky been raping little girls he'd have been in jail 15 years ago.

37 posted on 07/15/2012 11:12:43 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: donna
The University PC culture--- not just at Penn State but almost everywhere -- doesn't just reflexively defend male-on-male sex. It protects every kind of sexual disorder, re-defines it down to "diversity," then celebrates "diversity" as a cornucopia of goodness, courageous self-discovery, and choice.

Expect pleas to remove the "social stigma" from adults who go after children sexually. Expect to hear "free to love" andand "we are a misunderstod minority who have been driven into the xhadows". Be prepared to be tutored in the concept that "morality" is a stifling, socially-constructed fiction, and that "all sexualities" have equal rights.

Expect the claim that adult sexual contact with children is far more common than you thought, and is good for kids: only the social disapproval does them lasting harm.

Expect full-scale promotion in the next 5 years.

Going from "abuse" to "experimentation" to "enrichment" is the usual trajectory.

Ask former Penn State president Graham Spanier about that.

38 posted on 07/16/2012 7:03:40 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("You can observe a lot just by watchin'." - Yogi Berra)
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To: Zakeet

39 posted on 07/16/2012 7:05:47 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Paradox
Re: “Why can't they say they're sorry?”

Paradox nails it.

Because they face criminal and civil litigation, that's why.

George Zimmerman said a lot of things after he shot Trayvon Martin, including that he was sorry.

Lesson learned?

Say nothing to no one!

40 posted on 07/16/2012 9:37:45 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Zakeet

“You are sorry [PSU], aren’t you?’

Short and ugly: “No! Hell, No!!”


41 posted on 07/16/2012 11:31:53 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Penn only had one pedophile (to best of knowledge)

Sorry, but Penn State had at least five. Silence is just the same as being guilty. And the Second Mile program is no more than trying to carry on in a "holy" manner than the bishops that moved the priests around. It's all the same.

42 posted on 07/16/2012 4:48:27 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD

If you want to yack logical nonsense, it’s sad because these are both scandalous situations. But yacking logical nonsense about them edifies, illuminates, and warns nobody.


43 posted on 07/16/2012 7:41:57 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: Lancey Howard

Wouldn’t this be sort of characteristic for a man hater culture? They don’t care what happens to the man-children?


44 posted on 07/16/2012 7:43:44 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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