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Is it too late for a conservative to be nominated? (Just my idea)
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Posted on 07/15/2012 12:05:17 PM PDT by GodAndCountryFirst

I think it’s worth asking whether it really is too late to put a conservative on the ballot for president. Look, we all KNOW that O-Zero’s attacks on Romney are complete BS. But Romney has shown he isn’t able to stand up to it. He looks weak and defensive. So, maybe this is an opening for us.

Romney cannot really just drop out of the race. That would be insane. But he could be asked to let the convention make the call about whether he should move forward. Conservatives could ask him to release his delegates to vote their consciences.

If those delegates still want him on the ticket and he gets the votes, then good for him (I guess). But opening the convention would provide an opportunity to really debate the direction of the Republican Party and maybe ... just MAYBE... allow a conservative/ Tea Party/ Constitutionalist/ patriotic/ Christian / non-socialist / free-market insurgency to gain control.

Am I just dreaming? I just think we should not pass up the chance to save America, if we get it.


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1 posted on 07/15/2012 12:05:26 PM PDT by GodAndCountryFirst
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To: GodAndCountryFirst

Who? There aren’t any conservative candidates.


2 posted on 07/15/2012 12:08:31 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

This is another plea fot Sarah Palin to run.


3 posted on 07/15/2012 12:10:45 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: GodAndCountryFirst
I think you'll see a considerable drop in the polls for Mitt Romney. He's been on the defensive for a week now.

I think you'll see Mittens releasing his tax returns on tusday (the day Sheriff Joe is suppose to come out with the information they found regarding the birth certificate investigation).

Mitt Romney should step down while it's not too late.

4 posted on 07/15/2012 12:11:21 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: GodAndCountryFirst

Let me help you out:

#1 You HAD that chance in this thing called a PRIMARY. You guys decided, instead of voting for one, to act like the purity committee and ditch one candidate after another every time some loser fond a vote, statement, and photo of one of those guys doing some thing wasn’t 10000% perfectly conservative. You could have had one after South Carolina but you chickened out and ran after the first set of negative ads.

#2 No no one is going to ditch the guy that got the most delegates because you are chickening out yet again after some negative ads.


5 posted on 07/15/2012 12:12:19 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: GodAndCountryFirst
Romney cannot really just drop out of the race.

The man has spent the past decade running for the presidency. Its all about him and its personal. He's not going anywhere even at the expense of the nation.
6 posted on 07/15/2012 12:12:38 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Brilliant

!) Pro-life
2) Pro-marriage (traditional)
3) No amnesty

If he’s not double talking me, I’ll vote for him.


7 posted on 07/15/2012 12:12:45 PM PDT by donna (Mitt quote: ..gay couples raising kids. That's the American way..(Penn St feels same about showers))
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To: tsowellfan
Mitt Romney should step down while it's not too late. And who is going to go up against Hussein?
8 posted on 07/15/2012 12:13:11 PM PDT by moonshot925
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To: moonshot925

“And who is going to go up against Hussein? “

You think those guys have a clue?

They are teaming up with Obama to try to take out Romney while thinking that Sarah Palin or Allen West is going to magically become the nominee.


9 posted on 07/15/2012 12:17:14 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: moonshot925
We need someone clean as the driven snow who is not afraid to take the gloves off.

Gingrich/Cain2012

10 posted on 07/15/2012 12:18:33 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: tsowellfan

“Gingrich/Cain2012”

THAT would be a near-ideal ticket.


11 posted on 07/15/2012 12:22:01 PM PDT by GodAndCountryFirst
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To: GodAndCountryFirst
But opening the convention would provide an opportunity to really debate the direction of the Republican Party ...

Opening the convention would also send a very clear signal to the marginally engaged voters (that's a large majority of voters, unfortunately) that there is a total lack of confidence in "our" candidate. That would drive many of these voters back to the Obama camp even if Romney were miraculously replaced by a conservative candidate.

Yes. It's too late.

12 posted on 07/15/2012 12:22:41 PM PDT by Washi (Surviving the Zombie Apocalypse, one head-shot at a time.)
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To: VanDeKoik
As a result of the purists debating how many Reagans could dance on the head of a pin they left us with the repugnant choice of Romney or Obama. Even more disgusting is the dopes still haven't been able to defeat their pride nor recognize their mental deficiencies.

13 posted on 07/15/2012 12:23:22 PM PDT by I see my hands (It's time to.. KICK OUT THE JAMS, MOTHER FREEPERS!)
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To: GodAndCountryFirst

Nice idea, but it will never happen. Romney is too arrogant to ever step aside plus he believes he is the fulfillment of prophecy (White Horse Prophecy).

Barring a miracle, we are stuck with the SOB.


14 posted on 07/15/2012 12:25:01 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost, but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: tsowellfan

This is laughable. Call for purity and then put up Newt and Herman??! Ha!


15 posted on 07/15/2012 12:25:15 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: tsowellfan

This is laughable. Call for purity and then put up Newt and Herman??! Ha!


16 posted on 07/15/2012 12:25:20 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: tsowellfan

This is laughable. Call for purity and then put up Newt and Herman??! Ha!


17 posted on 07/15/2012 12:25:28 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: VanDeKoik

>>#1 You HAD that chance in this thing called a PRIMARY. You guys decided, instead of voting for one, to act like the purity committee and ditch one candidate after another every time some loser fond a vote, statement, and photo of one of those guys doing some thing wasn’t 10000% perfectly conservative.

Couldn’t say it better myself. In an attempt to keep the aisle open for St Sarah to charge in and save us from ourselves, they destroyed every candidate who rose to the top until only Romney was left and Palin finally announced that she wasn’t interested.


18 posted on 07/15/2012 12:26:32 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: cripplecreek

Bingo, Romney cares about Romney, not America. It is all about him.


19 posted on 07/15/2012 12:26:49 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost, but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Washi
Opening the convention would also send a very clear signal to the marginally engaged voters (that's a large majority of voters, unfortunately) that there is a total lack of confidence in "our" candidate.

I believe they already know there is a lack of confidence in Romney. There's a lot of us who didn't vote for him in the primaries.

20 posted on 07/15/2012 12:29:46 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: GodAndCountryFirst
Open the convention and Jeb gets it. And Obama gets his wish...run against Bush.

It's still too early to panic.

21 posted on 07/15/2012 12:30:40 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: Washi
That would drive many of these voters back to the Obama camp even if Romney were miraculously replaced by a conservative candidate.

Good. If they were ever in the Obama camp they are marxists who belong there. Anyone who thinks they will be at all good for the GOP is either a moron or a marxist themselves. If the GOP really wants them, they need to hike up their big girl panties and tell us filthy conservatives to take a hike. They won't because they're mewling cowards.
22 posted on 07/15/2012 12:32:00 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: GodAndCountryFirst

Cheater, and changer of rules,
Mr. RomneyCARE will NEVER step down (although he should).

Why? There is more money to made for him by this
faux run where he actually meekly defends Obama
(after all, Mr. ROMNEYCARE invented Death Panels, himself).
And, second, he has to defend ObamaCARE/RomneyCARE
and his imposition of gay marriage upon the Clerks.
He has to defend both, while pretending he was forced.


23 posted on 07/15/2012 12:34:54 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: GodAndCountryFirst
Rush Goes On the Record with Fox News Channel's Greta Van Susteren (December 2011)

The Republican Party is trying to do something in this primary that is unprecedented. They're trying to split the conservative vote and win the primary with a moderate, with Romney. It's the other way around. You consolidate your base and then you move to the center in the general. The Republican establishment has decided they don't want any part of conservatism. And this is really not new. People are surprised to hear this, but the Republican Party formative event with conservatism is Goldwater's landslide defeat. That's what they think of when they think conservative. They don't think Reagan. They think Goldwater.

They believe what the inside-the-Beltway philosophy is about conservatives. They're racist, sexist, bigot, homophobe, Southern hayseed hicks. They're pro-lifers. They're embarrassing to have to go to the convention with them. And they're just embarrassed to have those kind of people in the party. They're dumb. They're not erudite. They're not educated in Ivy League schools. We'll take their votes on election day, but we really don't want to hang around with them. We don't want anybody in Washington thinking that we're really that close to them and aligned with them. So in the process -- you know, it's a very sophisticated electorate. The Republican primary voter can sense that the Republican Party really doesn't like them, really doesn't want them, thinks that they are the route to defeat. That's the problem in a nutshell. The Republican establishment thinks that a conservative nominee is the route to defeat because they think Goldwater landslides are going to happen because they believe what the popular misconception the left has created of conservatives -- they think everybody thinks that.

24 posted on 07/15/2012 12:40:54 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Bryanw92

Stop pretending that the primaries represent the grassroots anymore. After 1994, Christie Todd Whitman and all the elite RINOs put in the fix.


25 posted on 07/15/2012 12:45:23 PM PDT by donna (Mitt quote: ..gay couples raising kids. That's the American way..(Penn St feels same about showers))
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To: I see my hands

If the purists are to blame for Romney being the presumptive nominee, then it is a case of “heads he wins, tails purists lose.”

Blame whomever, it is still not too late to correct the problem, but the timid, the resigned, and the establishment types will never buck the all-holy democratic process.

Romney is a sure loser in November. The man has about half a dozen Achilles heels and a warehouse full of flip flops. The media hasn’t even gotten around to investigating his sons yet, and publishing rumor if the truth isn’t useful.
They will.

Romney will lose.

But the GOP is familiar with losing. They’re used to it, they know the words to all the verses. Dumping Romney would call for improvisation, not to mention guts. It is not in the GOP playbook.


26 posted on 07/15/2012 12:45:37 PM PDT by Lady Lucky (If you believe what you're saying, quit making taxable income.)
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To: Diogenesis
Cheater, and changer of rules,

Yup. A regular old Obama Machine look alike

Because The Narrative Cannot Survive A Rewrite

he Michigan Republican Party (MRP) Credentials Committee voted 4-2 last night to give Mitt Romney both of the state's at-large delegates, State Policy Committee Chair Mike Cox told MIRS today.

Cox was one of two "no" votes on the committee which met via telephone, along with attorney Eric Doster The "yes" votes included GOP National Committeeman Saul Anuzis, a Romney supporter, and MRP Chair Bobby Schostak.

That would put the delegate split at 16 for Romney and 14 for Rick Santorum, after each candidate won 14 delegates apiece in those divided by Michigan's 14 congressional districts.

As MIRS first reported on Wednesday, the MRP was delaying a final decision on the delegate split until after consulting with attorneys.

Cox said that according to the MRP rules, Santorum and Romney should each get one of Michigan's two at-large delegates based on their take of the popular vote.

"I supported Mitt, but the vote was clearly wrong," Cox said of the Credentials Committee. "It's kind of like Third World voting. We published rules and then we voted to change the rules."


The GOP has earned their coming loss.
27 posted on 07/15/2012 12:46:42 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek
Good. If they were ever in the Obama camp they are marxists who belong there.

They are politically naive.

They don't know Obama is a marxist. Obama won't admit publicly that he is even a socialist. They just know that in 2008, it was cool to vote for Obama.

As the system now exists, everyone gets to vote. There are no intelligence tests. There are no political aptitude requirements. If you draw a breath (or not, in places like Chicago) you can vote.

The rules suck, but they're the rules the Republican party has to play by.

The only way to win is to get the most votes, even if those votes are from idiots.

28 posted on 07/15/2012 12:47:07 PM PDT by Washi (Surviving the Zombie Apocalypse, one head-shot at a time.)
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To: GodAndCountryFirst

I bet the Army of Darkness Obamas private investigative force can actually find something strong enough to make Romney quit, and they can fabricate something out of the blue and with the help of the MSM make the people believe its true, Obama has used this technique on all of his opposition.


29 posted on 07/15/2012 12:47:44 PM PDT by Eye of Unk (Going mobile, posts will be brief. No spellcheck for the grammar nazis.)
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To: reaganaut
You may be stuck with him.

I certainly won't be voting for a pro-abortion, anti-gun, socialized medicine, big government liberal.

/johnny

30 posted on 07/15/2012 12:51:04 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: GodAndCountryFirst

You all still don’t get it.
Romney is the chosen one this time around. Chosen to lose.
He’s not fighting back because his handlers are holding his jewels in a vice.
Zero will win another term no matter what you say or do.
Yea, it sounds conspiratorial.
Oh wait. Didn’t this happen to the last chosen one, Mclame?
All that said, I’ll hold my nose, AGAIN, and vote for the RINO that they poured at our feet. UNLESS: Unless some real men/women with balls take over the convention and start a domino effect that can’t be stopped, like West, Levin, et al. Yea, I know I’m dreaming.


31 posted on 07/15/2012 12:51:08 PM PDT by mark3681
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To: Lady Lucky
Its funny how they blame us filthy purists but look at what they say among themselves.

"I and a lot of Republicans I know won't vote for a tea party guy," said attorney David Zacks of Bloomfield Hills, strolling past the expensive boutique shops of downtown Birmingham with his son during a recent lunch hour.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2903940/posts?q=1&;page=51

We "purists" do all the compromising as with Thad McCotter who was anything but rock solid but we saw him as good enough for our purposes so we accepted him in the face of some big failings. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, these moderates are unwilling to compromise.
32 posted on 07/15/2012 12:53:00 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: GodAndCountryFirst

“But Romney has shown he isn’t able to stand up to it. He looks weak and defensive.”

You obviously haven’t seen the ads Romney, et al., are running in Colorado. They are directly going after Obama. In fact, I think Romney’s ads are some of the best I have ever seen, and I can’t stand Romney, but his ads are persuasive. His ads are direct and to the point: Obama sucks but here is what Romney will do immediately as President.


33 posted on 07/15/2012 12:54:33 PM PDT by CodeToad (History says our end is near.)
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To: GodAndCountryFirst

“...Is it too late for a conservative to be nominated?...”
Yes.
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“...I think it’s worth asking ...”
No, it is not.
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“...Romney has shown he isn’t able to stand up to it...”
And you think the national media would treat another candidate differently?
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“...maybe this is an opening for us...”
Do you have a mouse in your pocket?
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“...Am I just dreaming?...”
No, you are not just dreaming, you are hallucinating.


34 posted on 07/15/2012 12:58:14 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I meant ‘we’ in regards to the GOP. I will NEVER vote for Mitt, for the reasons you stated and many others. For all intents and purposes I’m out of the GOP over this. I am voting either for Goode or Freeper EVig.

It occurred to me the other day that the GOP has moved so far to the LEFT (example Romney) that the CONSERVATIVES in the party are now the RINOs - Republican in name only - because conservative principles do not square with the current Republican establishment/leadership and candidate.


35 posted on 07/15/2012 12:58:49 PM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama. Constitution party, here I come!)
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To: Diogenesis; cripplecreek

Romney is a RINO who has lots of flip flops.

But he is a successful businessman who knows how to balance a checkbook and create jobs.

I will take a businessman over a Marxist community organizer any day.


36 posted on 07/15/2012 12:58:49 PM PDT by moonshot925
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To: GodAndCountryFirst

Too late. However bad you think Romney is and however badly you think he’ll do in November, an unknown candidate or a retread of one of the losing candidates would do worse. It’s the “you can’t beat somebody with nobody” rule.


37 posted on 07/15/2012 1:02:17 PM PDT by x
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To: cripplecreek; JRandomFreeper; xzins; Jim Robinson

If the GOP really wants them, they need to hike up their big girl panties and tell us filthy conservatives to take a hike.

- - - - - - - -

I think that is exactly what they are doing by nominating Mitt Romney. Conservatives not welcome in the GOP.

So, when do we formalize the replacement and make the GOP go the way of the Whigs?


38 posted on 07/15/2012 1:02:53 PM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama.)
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To: moonshot925

Romney can kiss my rock solid conservative ass.


39 posted on 07/15/2012 1:03:13 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: moonshot925

Stop being untruthful. Mr. RomneyCARE decreased the number of
physicians, workers with BAIN, and ruined Massachusetts
so that Mass. plummeted. Tell the truth.

Mr. RomneyCARE is the author of DEATH PANELS,
which is the greatest thing the GOPe has ever done.


40 posted on 07/15/2012 1:03:56 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: GodAndCountryFirst
we all KNOW that O-Zero’s attacks on Romney are complete BS

Well - MOST of his attacks are BS. There are some ugly questions and inconsistencies in Mitt's history and statements that, while likely minor, provide at least an ounce of foundation for the vultures to get a hold.

I'm still waiting for an explanation about Bain and why Romney was still listed in all the official documentation and forms for years after Mitt says he was no longer with them. Maybe it was a clerical error - but that doesn't seem plausible.

Why should Bain be an issue at all, considering the fact that Obama and his Liberal Congress sent more jobs overseas and South of the border than Bain ever even dreamed of.

41 posted on 07/15/2012 1:05:21 PM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: x
It’s the “you can’t beat somebody with nobody” rule.

That's pretty much what we had in 2008, and so far, it looks like Mitt is no better...

42 posted on 07/15/2012 1:06:58 PM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: reaganaut
I'd rather get rid of the federal government, period.

/johnny

43 posted on 07/15/2012 1:08:09 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: mark3681
Unless some real men/women with balls take over the convention and start a domino effect that can’t be stopped, like West, Levin, et al. Yea, I know I’m dreaming.

Hahahahahahahaaha...... MY Nominee for the most humorous post of the day!!!! Whooo!!!!!

44 posted on 07/15/2012 1:08:35 PM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: VanDeKoik; I see my hands; Bryanw92

“...the purity committee ditched one candidate after another...”
So true!
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“...debating how many Reagans could dance on the head of a pin...”
Absolutely!
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“...to keep the aisle open for St Sarah...”
And they still think it just ‘might’ happen!
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Now read all three of your quotes together.


45 posted on 07/15/2012 1:12:41 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: moonshot925; Diogenesis; cripplecreek

Hi n00b, did you sign up just to pimp Mittens?

I refuse to sell my soul for political expediency. Romney is just a ‘white and delightsome’ (to use a Book of Mormon phrase) Obama. Nothing will change under Romney even if Mittens manages to win.


46 posted on 07/15/2012 1:14:53 PM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama.)
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To: reaganaut

So just out of curiosity, do people believe that if somehow the evil e-GOP and MSM was overcome and a candidate was nominated that somehow managed to avoid the RINO list of every FR poster, that that candidate would then sweep to victory in the general election?


47 posted on 07/15/2012 1:20:02 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: TheBattman

Wait no more...the explanation is out there you just haven’t seen/heard the right sources.

Romney owned controlling interest in Bain shares. He was founder and owner. What he did to start rescuing the Olympics was to remove himself from management of the company. That is a fact. He removed himself.

Because he still owned controlling shares, his name HAD, by law, to be on Bain reports to the SEC. It was.

That only meant he still had controlling interest. It had nothing to do with his still running the company, because he was not.

Obama knows this, even if you don’t.

Obama is lying through his teeth, and would lie about any candidate who was against him.


48 posted on 07/15/2012 1:21:19 PM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: donna

>>Stop pretending that the primaries represent the grassroots anymore. After 1994, Christie Todd Whitman and all the elite RINOs put in the fix.

Who’s pretending? I’m not. The primaries have never been about the grassroots, at least in most of our lifetimes. 1980 was a fluke. Reagan was an anomaly. It and he will never happen again.

But, we could make the 1980 fluke happen again, if we weren’t so easily manipulated. We want a conservative champion, so the elites make sure that we have several to choose from. Then, we each stand behind “our” guy/gal and destroy the others. The elites just sit back and chuckle. This election must have been really funny for them because we destroyed every conservative candidate for a person who wasn’t even running!


49 posted on 07/15/2012 1:24:46 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: JRandomFreeper
I'd rather get rid of the federal government We are a federal constitutional republic. Power is shared by the federal and state governments. I agree with you that the federal government right now has too much power, but we can't just get rid of it. The constitution outlines enumerated powers of the federal government.
50 posted on 07/15/2012 1:28:11 PM PDT by moonshot925
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