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Trump coming up on FNC about Noobamas comment.
7/16/2012 | self

Posted on 07/16/2012 4:31:19 AM PDT by Leo Carpathian

To comment on "You didn't build that business yourself"


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: business; comments; focnews; obama; spreadthewealth; trump; vanity; youdidntbuildthat

1 posted on 07/16/2012 4:31:29 AM PDT by Leo Carpathian
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To: Leo Carpathian

What are you talking about?


2 posted on 07/16/2012 4:35:58 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Leo Carpathian

Thanks for the heads-up. Just turned it on and The Donald is on now.


3 posted on 07/16/2012 4:36:47 AM PDT by pistolpackinpapa (Why is it that you never see any Obama bumper stickers on cars going to work in the mornings?)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Trump on Fox network talking about Kenyan attacking Romney on not releasing tax records vs. Obama not releasing ANY records from his past etc.
Then on Obama “You didn’t build that”


4 posted on 07/16/2012 4:39:08 AM PDT by Leo Carpathian (fffffFRrrreeeepppeeee-ssed!)
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To: Leo Carpathian

I still don’t know what you’re talking about.

“You didn’t build that”.

Who is “You”?

What is “that”?


5 posted on 07/16/2012 4:41:32 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Obama: ‘If You’ve Got a Business — You Didn’t Build That. Somebody Else Made That Happen’
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/president-obama-if-youve-got-a-business-you-didnt-build-that-somebody-else-made-that-happen/
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“You didn’t build that business yourself” obama:
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=%22You+didn%27t+build+that+business+yourself%22obama&ei=UTF-8&fr=moz2-ytff-amo


6 posted on 07/16/2012 4:42:52 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Leo Carpathian

Romney absolutely should obliterate Obama over this. Just say that he agrees that it would be important for the public to know about both of their pasts and agree that the two should mutually release their records on a set date, including:

1) birth certificates
2) college and graduate records
3) theses
4) travel records
5) tax returns
6) medical records

Just put it all out there.

That Obama is trying to characterize Romney as secretive simply reveals his narcissistic character pathology and his own projection. Romney should just expose this fraud.


7 posted on 07/16/2012 4:43:16 AM PDT by CaspersGh0sts
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To: Izzy Dunne

Obama said: If you built a business - you don’t deserve any credit. Everyone else did it (i.e. government, EBT-using customers, etc).

“I get a kick out of people who built a business and think they’re smarter than everyone.. or worked harder. I’ll tell you what there are a lot of hard working people who cant catch a break... blah blah.. And if you built a business, you didnt built it. Everyone else did.” Something like that.


8 posted on 07/16/2012 4:43:47 AM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: Leo Carpathian
thanks ..............caught it.

Release the college entrance records!

9 posted on 07/16/2012 4:44:01 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: hoosiermama

Missed it- what did Trump say about the “you didn’t build it” comment by Obama?


10 posted on 07/16/2012 4:48:36 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Leo Carpathian
I missed it...but can you give us a recap.

Was Trump effective? Does it look like this thing has legs?

11 posted on 07/16/2012 4:50:23 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

More legs than a centipede


12 posted on 07/16/2012 4:51:18 AM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: CaspersGh0sts

Frauds do not expose frauds. And in this case,
Obama and Mr. RomneyCARE are both
long term BF of G. Soros so there is a shared camaraderie.


13 posted on 07/16/2012 4:52:48 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Izzy Dunne
Washington Times:

(VIDEO) Obama - 'If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen'

President Barack Obama addressed supporters in Roanoke, Virginia on Friday afternoon and took a shot at the business community. President Obama dismissed any credit business owners give themselves for their success:

There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me -- because they want to give something back. They know they didn’t -- look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something -- there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there. (Applause.)

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2012/jul/15/picketvideo-obama-if-youve-got-business-you-didnt-/


14 posted on 07/16/2012 4:53:16 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: CaspersGh0sts

Doesn’t it make you sick? You read that Romney wants Obama to apologize. Sound like a mirror image of McCain’s high road to ruination doesn’t it? And there is smug Obama with the big gorilla in the room next to him - that being all his disqualifying secrets which he refuses to disclose, which he has locked down tighter than the ‘supposed’ gold in Fort Knox. Meanwhile, Obama screams for Romney to release all his tax returns, deceitfully and hypocritically proclaiming a presidential candidate should be an open book to the public voter. What can you make of this stupidity other than the fix is in. The Rhinos have a pact with the Devil and simply will not attack Obama where it hurts and counts. It is universal total political party corruption across the board. It is a clear indication that politics is not going to solve the country’s problems.


15 posted on 07/16/2012 4:58:15 AM PDT by iontheball
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“Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive.”—Obama

The lying sack of ****! How dare he praise the American Capitalist System when it is clear as day that he and his communist ilk despise and want to destroy it.


16 posted on 07/16/2012 5:00:24 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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"It was at the Chicago home of [Bill] Ayers and [Bernardine] Dohrn that Obama, then an up-and-coming 'community organizer,' had his political coming out party in 1995. Not content with this rite of passage in Lefty World — where unrepentant terrorists are regarded as progressive luminaries, still working 'only to educate' — both Obamas tended to the relationship with the Ayers."
Article: The Company He Keeps:
Meet Obama’s circle: The same old America-hating Left
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YThjYTU1ZDBjNmQ2YzcwNzU1MmYwN2JiMWY0ZGI0NDA=&w=MA==
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"Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that's where it's really at"
--Bill Ayers (1970), quoted in New York Times, September 11, 2001:

Article: "No Regrets for a Love Of Explosives; In a Memoir of Sorts, a War Protester Talks of Life With the Weathermen"
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F02E1DE1438F932A2575AC0A9679C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1>
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"Dig It. First they killed those pigs [ie, rich people], then they ate dinner in the same room with them, they even shoved a fork into a victim’s stomach! Wild!"
-Weather Underground leader and wife of Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, referring to the Manson murders

Article: Allies in War -by David Horowitz
FrontPageMagazine.com | Monday, September 17, 2001
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=63512670-BF7C-42A0-B41D-5D0FB9E09C09

17 posted on 07/16/2012 5:04:33 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Leo Carpathian

0bama doesn’t build anything ,,,,, he’s the great destroyed , divider , dictator and usurper .


18 posted on 07/16/2012 5:05:35 AM PDT by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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Undercover agent Larry Grathwohl discusses the Weather Underground's post-revolution governing plans for the United States:

Larry Grathwohl:

"I asked, 'well what is going to happen to those people we can't reeducate, that are diehard capitalists?' and the reply was that they'd have to be eliminated. And when I pursued this further, they estimated they would have to eliminate 25 million people in these reeducation centers. And when I say 'eliminate,' I mean 'kill.' Twenty-five million people. I want you to imagine sitting in a room with 25 people, most of which have graduate degrees, from Columbia and other well-known educational centers, and hear them figuring out the logistics for the elimination of 25 million people. And they were dead serious."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWMIwziGrAQ
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From the Chicago Sun Times, November 13, 2008:

Ayers: Obama was 'family friend'
New afterword to 2001 book, Ayers describes Barack Obama as 'family friend'

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/1278532,bill-ayers-barack-obama-book-111308.article#

19 posted on 07/16/2012 5:06:47 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: SE Mom

Said WMR was a gentleman. That he probably still had his name on the record and planned to go back after the Olympics..Done all the time. BUT MR wasn’t there and didn’t return. Gave the example of Steve Job’s medical leave.

President has only one thing going: attacks...May work in Chicago not across America.

Gretchin really gave it to 0.


20 posted on 07/16/2012 5:07:24 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: Lionheartusa1
0bama doesn’t build anything ,,,,, he’s the great destroyer , divider , dictator and usurper.

He and his leftist ilk build dependency and misery.

21 posted on 07/16/2012 5:08:40 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL
I didn't read it as praise of our Capitalist system, but rather as praise for the collectivist functions of government that enabled the creation of the nation's infrastructure. Obama sees private enterprise as parasitic, diverting *money* away from the true power structure.

Pretty much what you'd expect from a Communist.

22 posted on 07/16/2012 5:11:33 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Leo Carpathian

Obama must be referring to the fact that in order for you to be successful, some federal regulator HAD TO GET OUT OF THE WAY.

Which he is parsing to mean, “made that happen”.

So!
Anytime you have any measure of success, you should be thankful for the regulator, who didn’t stop you....


23 posted on 07/16/2012 5:12:53 AM PDT by G Larry (I'm under no obligation to be a passive victim!)
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To: ETL

“Obama: ‘If You’ve Got a Business — You Didn’t Build That. Somebody Else Made That Happen’”

This sounds very much like when they were trying to rev up class warfare with “White Europeans didn’t build this country.”

That didn’t seem to work too well for them, so now they’re taking class warfare to a more personal level and appealing to the ego.....”Hey, without us, this company wouldn’t exist. You OWE us!”


24 posted on 07/16/2012 5:13:26 AM PDT by Heart of Georgia (It's not a penalty - it's obamaTAX. Make him own it.)
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To: Heart of Georgia
That didn’t seem to work too well for them, so now they’re taking class warfare to a more personal level and appealing to the ego.....”Hey, without us, this company wouldn’t exist. You OWE us!”

You know what's coming..."workers of the world unite!"

"You workers built these companies...help me transfer ownership to you who so rightfully deserve it! Same for you unemployed and idle and poor who have been deprived of a chance by greedy businessmen."

Pure, unadulterated communism!

25 posted on 07/16/2012 5:22:28 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Charles Martel
Pretty much what you'd expect from a Communist.

"God D*** America..."
--Rev Dr. Jeremiah Wright, Obama's pastor for twenty years


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"Their founding document [the Weather Underground's] called for the establishment of a "white fighting force" to be allied with the Black Liberation Movement" and other "anti-colonial" movements[1] to achieve "the destruction of US imperialism and the achievement of a classless world: world communism."..."-Berger, Dan (2006). Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity. AK Press, 95.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_Underground#cite_ref-Berger_0-0

Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity (Paperback) by Dan Berger
http://www.amazon.com/Outlaws-America-Underground-Politics-Solidarity/dp/1904859410
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From the New York Times, August 24, 2003

"they [the Weather Underground] employed revolutionary jargon, advocated armed struggle and black liberation and began bombing buildings, taking responsibility for at least 20 attacks. Estimates of their number ranged at times from several dozen to several hundred."

Article: Quieter Lives for 60's Militants, but Intensity of Beliefs Hasn't Faded
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F04E4DE1539F937A1575BC0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=2
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Rev. Dr. Jeremiah Wright and Dr. William Ayers
are greeted by Rebekah Levin with the Committee
for a Just Peace in Israel and Palestine.
(Chuck Berman/Chicago Tribune / May 17, 2009)
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-ayers_wrightmay18,0,6689521.story

26 posted on 07/16/2012 5:24:32 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Leo Carpathian

This is our future thanks to the Klan With A Tan and the half breed Al Qaeda member, coke snorting, terrorist supporting, child killing president and his fellow communist followers in the dumbocrap party.

They can and will say anything and we do not even have any honest investigative journalists to set the record straight. They are all probably still in Alaska looking for dirt on Sarah.

According to these plantation dwellers you cannot possibly succeed unless you stole something from others. They are living proof of a public education system doing the bidding of the communist manifesto and sadly even to this day, many conservatives will send their children into these communist indoctrination camps and then on to some institutions of higher learning replete with mostly communist professors. You are subsidizing your own demise.


27 posted on 07/16/2012 5:29:12 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: hoosiermama

Thanks:)


28 posted on 07/16/2012 5:33:11 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: ETL

,,,,,, comes under the heading destroyer ,,

destroys-independence and happiness .


29 posted on 07/16/2012 5:38:14 AM PDT by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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To: ETL
Obama - 'If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen'

That's right. If my people didn't spend their welfare checks on whatever you're selling, you wouldn't be successful.

That's right, they're the ones with a steady paycheck. They don't get get laid off or outsourced or fired like your people. They get a check like clockwork. They are dependable. They're doing their share, now do your share and pay more taxes!!!

30 posted on 07/16/2012 5:42:08 AM PDT by varon (Sleep sound, the Patriots stand watch)
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To: varon

Lol! ...but true! (of how they think). WE need to pay MORE taxes so that Obama’s freeloaders can continue receiving their steady government checks which supports our current ‘thriving’ economy.


31 posted on 07/16/2012 5:54:11 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Leo Carpathian

Does anyone have a confirmed Mountain Standard time for Joe Arpaio’s news conference tomorrow? Keep in mind Arizona is on standard time. Thanks.


32 posted on 07/16/2012 5:56:53 AM PDT by iontheball
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To: CaspersGh0sts

Romney should just expose this fraud.

Of course he should but he won’t. His job is to lose and give Obama the chance to complete the destruction of our country. That is becoming more and more evident.


33 posted on 07/16/2012 6:02:49 AM PDT by Josephat (`)
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34 posted on 07/16/2012 6:02:49 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: RoosterRedux
Does it look like this thing has legs?

It has some potential to backfire.

We conservatives have recognized the war on the private sector that liberals have been waging for some time. Independents and political apathetics, many of whom are employed in the private sector, have been sensing something was awry, but weren't sure about what was going on.

To malign employers, entrepreneurs, and investors in such a clear, direct way may have the effect of turning off EMPLOYEES, many of whom are watching their bosses fight like mad to hold on to their businesses, and thus, their jobs.

The war on the private sector just became more overt with this statement. Obama's envy and animosity toward capitalism just became more apparent.

"You didn't build it", and "The private sector's doing just fine" can be combined in a formidable ad campaign designed to expose Obama's ignorance of and hostility to capitalism to those who are just now beginning to grasp how damaging to American prosperity the Obama policies have become.

35 posted on 07/16/2012 6:26:35 AM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: Leo Carpathian
To comment on "You didn't build that business yourself"

Trump can be a good attack dog if not overused. Just wish he was more articulate, somewhere between Professor Irwin Corey and Hannity. Sorry Sean but you still can't read your talking points without losing your spot and train of thought.......................

36 posted on 07/16/2012 6:31:21 AM PDT by varon (Sleep sound, the Patriots stand watch)
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To: Izzy Dunne

The who is “We”. The what is “built this city”. The how is “with rock and roll”.


37 posted on 07/16/2012 6:38:17 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Borg Zombies walk around groaning "Commmppuutteerrrrssss......Commmppuutteerrrrssss......")
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To: Izzy Dunne

You are obviously a few steps behind in the news cycle.


38 posted on 07/16/2012 6:40:43 AM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: Leo Carpathian

I give Donald credit. I thought he was a mole, and was gonna run third party to siphon off conservative votes. Turns out not; turns out he’s legit.


39 posted on 07/16/2012 6:41:07 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Borg Zombies walk around groaning "Commmppuutteerrrrssss......Commmppuutteerrrrssss......")
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To: Leo Carpathian

Business is successful in spite of government. Business has to pay more taxes, meet more standards, fill more paperwork, submit to more inspections, prove more compliance, and have more lawyers on hand just in case some involvement with the government (Federal / state / county / town levels) doesn’t go well than anyone on welfare could even begin to cope with. If Great Leader is talkin about infrastructure he’d should find another topic because without business the government would be unable to afford infrastructure. Let Atlas shrug for a year and watch what happens. Great Leader is talking National Socialism and it’s becoming less subtle with each passing week.


40 posted on 07/16/2012 6:43:32 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: Leo Carpathian

Ignorant jug-eared communist moron: “You didn’t get there on your own.”

This is projection of biblical proportion, and further evidence that President Barack Hussein Mountain Dew Obama Comacho has absolutely NO IDEA how the capitalist system works or why it has been infinitely more successful than ANY other economic system.


41 posted on 07/16/2012 6:49:06 AM PDT by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: ETL

Gretchen made the point after Trump left that 0 was accusing others of what he was doing himself. Someone should enlighten her on where that technique orginated: Stalin/Marx.

Do you have the exact quote and source so we can forward it to her.

FOX&Friends@Foxnews.com


42 posted on 07/16/2012 7:22:17 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: G Larry

Reminds me of the scene in Young Guns II Where Billy said to Chisum “the way I see it, you owe me (some amount of money - I can’t recall at this point; perhaps $1.50) for each one of your cattle we didn’t steal”.


43 posted on 07/16/2012 7:34:46 AM PDT by jurroppi1
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To: Wurlitzer

Soooo descriptive!


44 posted on 07/16/2012 4:25:20 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (fffffFRrrreeeepppeeee-ssed!)
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To: hoosiermama

I’m far from an expert on Marx or Stalin. But the technique sounds more like something from Alinsky’s Rules For Radicals. Maybe Alinsky got it from one of them?


45 posted on 07/16/2012 10:43:35 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

Found several similar on net, but have not found a direct quote.

“Accuse others of what you do.” - Attributed to Vladimir Lenin and Karl Marx

but IIRC it is also in the RULES FOR RADICALS book.


46 posted on 07/17/2012 7:08:52 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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