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School Buses an Ideal Environment for Bullying
http://www.educationnews.org/k-12-schools/school-buses-an-ideal-environment-for-bullying/#comment-10632 ^

Posted on 07/16/2012 5:48:37 AM PDT by wintertime

School buses serve as a setting for as much as 10% of all bullying incidents in the country, according to the data collected by the U.S. Department of Education. The reality, however, could be much worse, since as many as two-thirds of all bullying incidents that take place in the U.S. schools are never reported. A recent article on Slate.com explained that limited space and lack of adequate supervision make school bus bullying notoriously hard to control and reduce.

Jeremy Stahl, writing at Slate.com, said that he polled his colleagues about their own and their kids’ experiences and many recalled incidents that took place on a school bus as the worst cases of bullying they had ever experienced. One even said that school bus harassment was so prevalent at his school that his mother, a teacher, arranged for him to carpool at the beginning and the end of the day to protect him from the abuse.

The research backs up these anecdotes. A 2005 study from the Journal of School Violence reported that two incidents of bullying occurred for every bus ride they monitored. According to a 2007 report by the National Center for Education Statistics, middle school students are most likely to be bullied on a bus. This is also the same age that students are also most likely to be injured by bullying. What is it about buses that make them such an ideal venue for this kind of behavior?

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bullying; childhood; psychology; schoolbus; sourcetitlenoturl
Other issues regarding prison work gang buses ( oops! "school" buses):

1) There are 17,000 emergency room admissions due to school bus injuries every year. ( Do a Google search on the words: "School bus injury emergency room")

2) School buses are top heavy and subject to roll over. There are usually no escape hatches on the roofs and this complicates rescue.

3) When school buses do roll over children tumble from their seats causing impact injury to themselves and crushing other children.

4) We do NOT know if children are safer when riding to and from school ( specifically) in a properly secured safety seat with the parent driving. These studies have **never** been done!

5) A very sad injury that could be completely prevented with adult supervision are crushing and dragging injuries. On occasion a child's clothing or back pack strap will get caught in the school bus door and these children are dragged by their buses. The other injury occurs when a child drops an item in front of the bus, leans over to pick it up, and the bus driver ( thinking they have cleared the bus) starts the bus and crushes the child. This happened twice in my county within two years and in both cases the child was killed instantly.

5) Social environment: There is sexual, physical, and emotional bullying on buses. Anecdotally, my daughter learned the "F" word on her kindergarten bus.

1 posted on 07/16/2012 5:48:41 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: wintertime

You know, I really don’t care.


2 posted on 07/16/2012 5:51:17 AM PDT by Rudder
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To: metmom; Westbrook; BobL
Another reason to homeschool.
3 posted on 07/16/2012 5:52:29 AM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: Rudder

Then why bother reading the article or posting?


4 posted on 07/16/2012 5:53:37 AM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: wintertime

It was good for me to get bullied in middle school. Inspired me to work out and learn self defense. I was on the boxing team in military school. Being bullied taught me that life isn’t always fair. I must admit, I still have a desire to kick his ass 40 years later. Actually, it was 2 guys.


5 posted on 07/16/2012 5:56:09 AM PDT by albie
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To: wintertime

They should appoint the toughest guys on each bus to be “monitors”.


6 posted on 07/16/2012 5:58:16 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obamaid has to go.)
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To: wintertime

Maybe some people who are collecting unemployment should be told to ride school buses as a condition for continuing to receive checks. Not a paid posiiton — just an expectation from the Unemployment Office.


7 posted on 07/16/2012 5:58:51 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Roger Taney? Not a bad Chief Justice. John Roberts? A really awful Chief Justice.)
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To: wintertime

Speaking of bullying, you’re a bully when it comes to public schools.


8 posted on 07/16/2012 5:59:05 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: wintertime

“Another reason to homeschool.”

Yea, someone was keeping count. I think he was in the 400s the last time that I checked.


9 posted on 07/16/2012 5:59:05 AM PDT by BobL
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To: wintertime
“Another reason to homeschool.”

I agree.

10 posted on 07/16/2012 6:01:07 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: wintertime

Simple cure:
Video the passengers—It’ll give the BULLYING evidence you need.

Kick off the bad ones—let ‘em walk.

Problem: SOLVED.


11 posted on 07/16/2012 6:02:34 AM PDT by Flintlock (-THE TRUTH--It's the NEW hate speech.)
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To: Mike Darancette
They should appoint the toughest guys on each bus to be “monitors”.

They usually appoint themselves........

12 posted on 07/16/2012 6:07:12 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: wintertime

The government is only concerned when gay sissies get bullied about being gay.


13 posted on 07/16/2012 6:13:23 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: wintertime

Thnx for this...good topic.
I never let my kid go on a public school bus after, on his first day as a first grader, he was asked at the end of the day, what bus he was on so he pointed to one and they promptly put him on it. It was the wrong bus. He didn’t get off with the other kids in our neighborhood so when I freaked and called the school, the vice principal said, “oh well, he’ll just ride it and come back here.”
I had my lawyer on speed dial...and put him in a Catholic school the next year with parents doing the car pool.
Unbelievable.


14 posted on 07/16/2012 6:28:12 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: wintertime

I rode a school bus to and from school, 1950s-1960s, until I was 17. There was never any of this going on, even though for part of the ride there was standing room only.

What is the difference today? Simple fact is the majority of today’s children simply are not taught how to conduct themselves in a respectful and respectable manner.


15 posted on 07/16/2012 7:04:32 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: Bigg Red
I rode a school bus to and from school, 1950s-1960s, until I was 17.

Same here. There was no bullying, but a lot of horsing around. I got a chipped tooth when another kid yanked me forward by my coat, and my mouth hit the back of the seat in front of me.

16 posted on 07/16/2012 7:12:53 AM PDT by Inspectorette
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To: Bigg Red
Simple fact is the majority of today’s children simply are not taught how to conduct themselves in a respectful and respectable manner.

Agreed. It's the parents' fault. No way around it. Can't blame the schools or the government. It falls back onto the parents.

17 posted on 07/16/2012 7:31:29 AM PDT by bgill
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To: wintertime

Where to begin?

Eliminate the tyrannical, inconsiderate, bullying rule of the school buses clogging the roads all day, every day now.

Eliminate the neurotically overprotective parents who can’t just let the kids wait and quickly board by themselves.

Eliminate all taxes on folks like me for other people’s kids and their non-education.

Let the kids walk.

Let the kids handle the so-called bullying epidemic by teaching them a few quickly-incapacitating tactics.

Have more kids, and then just let natural selection sort out who’s scrappy enough to make it.

If you’re waiting for a sarcasm tag, you’ll be disappointed.


18 posted on 07/16/2012 7:50:14 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Mike Darancette

We saw what happened recently with the adult bus monitor. She was bullied mercilessly by the kids.

Unfortunately, in today’s politically correct world, she wasn’t allowed to say or do anything against those kids.

Back in my day, there was no such job as a bus monitor. But it seems that such a job is useless, since monitors aren’t allowed to discipline the kids.


19 posted on 07/16/2012 8:33:38 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: dagogo redux
“Let the kids handle the so-called bullying epidemic by teaching them a few quickly-incapacitating tactics.”

The bullies would receive same. Nothing changes.

“Have more kids, and then just let natural selection sort out who’s scrappy enough to make it.”

Survival of the fittest. Just what we need, more abused children, more child suicides, more murders by bullies and their ‘gang.’ No adult intervention.

Or are you not saying that?

And you are a “shrink?”

Interesting.

20 posted on 07/16/2012 9:08:13 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: wintertime

there are no consequences for bad behavior on the bus. this encourages bad behavior. the driver cannot stop the bus and oust the offender, they cannot kick the kid off the bus, even for a few days. and whenever something goes wrong it’s always the drivers fault. and he has no rights to discipline the kids, adn the kids know it.


21 posted on 07/16/2012 9:19:53 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: wintertime

In response to your first #5, there are ways to prevent the crushing and dragging injuries. I drove a school bus in NC back in the 70’s (when high school students were still allowed to be bus drivers). I remember the training. The most dangerous part of driving the bus was the pasenger stop. They taught us that there was 14 steps to a passenger stop. One step in particular was, “Count and recount.” If they are getting on the bus, you count the kids before you open the door, then recount them as they get on. Or if getting off, count them as they leave, then again as they walk away from the bus stop. DO NOT MOVE THE BUS UNTIL YOUR COUNTS MATCH!!!


22 posted on 07/16/2012 10:13:05 AM PDT by fredhead (It's my Herbie year...check out the number on the side of the famous VW.)
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To: Inspectorette

I got a chipped tooth when another kid yanked me forward by my coat, and my mouth hit the back of the seat in front of me.

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And your parents didn’t sue....


23 posted on 07/16/2012 10:33:24 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: bgill

It falls back onto the parents.

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Precisely.


24 posted on 07/16/2012 10:34:18 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: Bigg Red
And your parents didn’t sue....

LOL! Imagine if our parents had sued back then every time we got hurt. We'd all be rich!

25 posted on 07/16/2012 2:43:52 PM PDT by Inspectorette
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To: Inspectorette

OMW, when I think of all of the times I got hurt. I was a little tomboy. Loved to get dressed up and look pretty on Sunday, but my summers were full of climbing trees, roller skating and riding my bike. I learned quite a bit about the laws of physics with some of my dumb tricks.

Most of the time, I avoided letting my mother know about some of the stupid stunts I tried, e.g., trying to ride my bike down the concrete steps at the library. Mom and Dad would not have complained that the library had not posted a sign over the steps warning of the dangers of riding a bicycle there; I would have been asked what I was thinking to try such a crazy thing.

I raised my children the same way. Kids need to run and play. They will fall down and get hurt on occasion, but that is part of the learning process.

Today’s parents — well, not all but far too many — are idiots.

Sorry for hijacking this thread, BTW.


26 posted on 07/16/2012 4:18:21 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: fredhead

The bus driver has enough to do without worrying about **14** steps. Fourteen steps? Wow! That’s a perfect prescription for crushed and dragged children.

In the dragging injuries and deaths. The child leaves the bus, and since he is not seen, the driver assumes that he has fully exited and left the vicinity of the bus.
Then there is the occasional crushing that happens when the bus backs up and the child is behind the bus.

There should be bus monitors on all buses to see that the children enter and exit the bus safely, and fully cross the street. Where humans are involved there will always be accidents. The goal should be to reduce these accidents to as low as possible.


27 posted on 07/16/2012 7:38:28 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: Balding_Eagle
Speaking of bullying, you’re a bully when it comes to public schools.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Only in the bizarro world of the government defender are **FACTS** called bullying/ What is this? Orwellian “Newspeak”?

Facts=bullying?

Bullying = Facts?

28 posted on 07/16/2012 7:41:39 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: wintertime; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; AccountantMom; Aggie Mama; agrace; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

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29 posted on 07/18/2012 7:16:02 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: wintertime; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; AccountantMom; Aggie Mama; agrace; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. Articles pinged to the Another Reason to Homeschool List will be given the keyword of ARTH. (If I remember. If I forget, please feel free to add it yourself)

The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.

30 posted on 07/18/2012 7:16:37 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: wintertime
I say make the kids walk.

Unless you live in a rural area where the school is miles away, there is no reason to bus kids to school. In the cities and even out in most suburbs, schools are usually within easy walking distance. I would say three miles should be the threshold and I think I'm being generous.

Hell, I walk my dog for an hour each morning before work (about four miles) so it's not like I'm asking kids to do something I don't already do myself. During those morning walks, I see all kinds of nutty stuff. Overprotective parents who literally drive their kids to the bus stop which might only be a few houses down the street. There they sit with idling engines, waiting for the bus, while their kid sits in the passenger seat texting on their iPhones and wearing flip-flops and shorts (even though it might be thirty degrees outside).

I say, make the kids walk! I'm surprised the crunchy-granola liberals don't get on board here. All those idling cars and diesel-burning buses clogging up our roadways. Make the planet greener and cure the childhood obesity problem all in one fell swoop - make the kids WALK to school!

31 posted on 07/18/2012 7:34:02 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: wintertime
Yes there's bullying on buses, but most of the violence happens on campus.
32 posted on 07/18/2012 7:48:44 AM PDT by Krankor
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To: Balding_Eagle; wintertime
Speaking of bullying, you’re a bully when it comes to public schools.

Amen, brother testify. I have been telling wintertime that for several years now.

33 posted on 07/18/2012 7:51:37 AM PDT by verga (The first word in protestant is protest, just like the occupy people did.)
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