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UAE starts up pipeline to bypass Strait of Hormuz
Fuel Fix ^ | July 15, 2012 | Associated Press

Posted on 07/16/2012 5:49:45 AM PDT by thackney

The United Arab Emirates on Sunday inaugurated a much-anticipated overland oil pipeline that bypasses the Strait of Hormuz, giving the OPEC member insurance against Iranian threats to block the strategic waterway.

The 380-kilometer (236-mile) Abu Dhabi Crude Oil Pipeline snakes across western desert dunes and over the craggy Hajar mountains to the city of Fujairah on the UAE’s Indian Ocean coast, south of the strait.

Until now, all Emirati exports were loaded in the Gulf and then sailed out through Hormuz. Once it is running at full capacity, the pipeline could allow the country, OPEC’s third biggest exporter, to ship as much as two-thirds of its peak production through the eastern port city.

(Excerpt) Read more at fuelfix.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: energy; hormuz; oil; opec; unitedarabemirates
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Please note that this pipeline only allows a portion (1.5 MMBPD) of the oil to bypass the strait.

1 posted on 07/16/2012 5:49:50 AM PDT by thackney
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To: thackney

Somebody ‘splain to me why, if Iran (or somebody else) disregards “international waters” and norms of conduct enough to block the Straits, they wouldn’t just lay a bomb or two on this pipeline as well?


2 posted on 07/16/2012 6:00:09 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Small mobile missile launchers can block the Strait of Hormuz effectively from Iran shores.

Bombing an underground pipeline is a little more difficult in another country.


3 posted on 07/16/2012 6:03:08 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Izzy Dunne

That would be a direct attack on a sovereign nation ON THEIR OWN SOIL. You don’t do that unless you want to see every goddam nation in the entire middle east attack you...or pay the USA to do the attacking and let them use all airspace whatever else we would need.


4 posted on 07/16/2012 6:03:08 AM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: thackney
insurance against Iranian threats to block the strategic waterway...

Well, a pipeline is one method. The main method though should be kept in mind. I'll call it the Clint Eastwood "Make My Day" method.

5 posted on 07/16/2012 6:09:37 AM PDT by C210N ("ask not what the candidate can do for you, ask what you can do for the candidate" (Breitbart, 2012))
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To: C210N
One more pipeline, there are several existing.

It just helps make the empty Iranian threat, more empty.

6 posted on 07/16/2012 6:18:38 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

An undersea pipeline would probably be wisest but also most expensive.


7 posted on 07/16/2012 6:21:41 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: thackney
Bombing an underground pipeline

Is it underground?
I assume not, from this little tidbit:
and over the craggy Hajar mountains

But I could be wrong (it's happened before).

8 posted on 07/16/2012 6:25:38 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: mamelukesabre
That would be a direct attack on a sovereign nation ON THEIR OWN SOIL.

Well, if part of the pipeline is above ground, it seems easy to arrange a little "industrial accident", rather than a missile strike.

Don't ge me wrong, I've nothing against the pipeline. Just wondering if it will really help anything if the SHTF.

9 posted on 07/16/2012 6:28:38 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: cripplecreek
An undersea pipeline would probably be wisest but also most expensive.

Why would you want to move the pipeline closer to Iran and out of their own land?

10 posted on 07/16/2012 6:29:05 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Izzy Dunne

the 370-km (231-mile) Abu Dhabi Crude Oil Pipeline buried in the desert...

http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/03/28/203793.html

Very few petroleum pipelines in the world are placed above ground. Unless you have to avoid melting permafrost, it is far cheaper and less expensive as well as safer.


11 posted on 07/16/2012 6:34:03 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Izzy Dunne
Well, if part of the pipeline is above ground, it seems easy to arrange a little "industrial accident", rather than a missile strike.

There will certainly be above ground portions, pump stations for example. The pipe itself may only come above ground to enter equipment like separators, pumps, filters, scrapper traps and launchers.

Just wondering if it will really help anything if the SHTF.

It is one of several pipelines that can move oil without going through the strait. Each additional pipeline makes it more difficult for Iran to block anyone besides themselves.

12 posted on 07/16/2012 6:39:52 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

Yeah I should look at a map first.

I was thinking undersea as a means of putting it out of reach of landbound threats and it would be tougher for iranians to reach. But I was also thinking about it coming from further north.


13 posted on 07/16/2012 6:41:58 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: thackney

In a perfect world, there would be dozens of pipelines right next to, and UNDER Iran. These horizontal-flowing pipes out of Iran would have backflow preventers, just to be sure of their purpose.


14 posted on 07/16/2012 6:53:43 AM PDT by C210N ("ask not what the candidate can do for you, ask what you can do for the candidate" (Breitbart, 2012))
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To: thackney
The 380-kilometer (236-mile) Abu Dhabi Crude Oil Pipeline snakes across western desert dunes and over the craggy Hajar mountains to the city of Fujairah on the UAE’s Indian Ocean coast, south of the strait.

I'm surprised this piece didn't offer a map of the pipeline... then again, over-land pipes shouldn't be too hard to find... especially with the nice description above...

Iran's cool -they would never stoop to sabotage... Nope, Iran's capable of blocking the Straight of Hormuz ( 30 miles wide at some points) but they aren't smart or crass enough to take out an above ground pipeline.../s

15 posted on 07/16/2012 7:40:43 AM PDT by GOPJ (Innocent people dying was the objective of Fast and Furious......... Ann Coulter)
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They are also building a refinery near the end of the pipeline.

http://www.2b1stconsulting.com/3-billion-fujairah-refinery-ipic-calls-for-bid-on-feed/

16 posted on 07/16/2012 8:02:58 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

Article states it is overland...not underground


17 posted on 07/16/2012 8:11:50 AM PDT by EBH (Obama took away your American Dreams and replaced them with "Dreams from My (his) Father".)
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To: Izzy Dunne
I found a better link to confirm the underground construction.

http://www.ipic.ae/en/projects/Desc.aspx?Proj_ID=7&MenuID=5

The pipe is first welded up above ground next to where it will be installed.

Then sidebooms (bulldozers without blades but a side crane and counterweight) will drive along together picking the pipe up and laying it into the trench.

When completed, there will be an access road next to the pipeline and a berm over the pipeline. This is typical of pipeline construction. In the US, we typically don't install the berm but rather bury a little deeper.

I've worked construction for a similar construct through mountains and flatter areas in the middle east. Let me know if you have other questions.

18 posted on 07/16/2012 8:26:39 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: EBH

See post 18. I’ve included pictures from the “company” (UAE owned) from the construction as it is placed below ground.


19 posted on 07/16/2012 8:28:25 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

Thanks for your explanation. I misunderstood the original item, and this makes more sense.


20 posted on 07/16/2012 8:38:30 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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