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Graphic: Mexican drug cartelsí spreading influence (Mexico to US-Large Graphic)
National Post ^ | 7/19/2012 | National Post

Posted on 07/16/2012 4:23:07 PM PDT by Dallas59




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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: cartels; crime; drugs; drugwar; mexico; warondrugs; wod; wodlist; wosd
But let's worry about how much money US citizens make shall we? If you use or buy drugs off the street...your an accomplice to mass murder and your not a Conservative.
1 posted on 07/16/2012 4:23:13 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: Dallas59

Indeed.

If people want to use drugs then change the laws. Til then, if you use drugs you are supporting the most vile and cruel cartels you can imagine—even worse.

As I’ve posted before, my son is a Border Patrol Agent and he has been injured on the job and shot a drug smuggler. Want to smoke a little weed, change the law so fine young men protecting our borders are not placed in great danger (Brian Terry).


2 posted on 07/16/2012 4:29:16 PM PDT by Hulka
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To: Dallas59

And Obama and Holder contributed to the death toll by allowing weapons to go into Mexico that the system would’ve stopped.


3 posted on 07/16/2012 4:30:09 PM PDT by MeganC (If you are hell-bent on delaying maturity you will likely succeed.)
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To: Hulka
If people want to use drugs then change the laws. Til then, if you use drugs you are supporting the most vile and cruel cartels you can imagine—even worse.

People who use drugs don't care who they support or make rich.

4 posted on 07/16/2012 4:36:03 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: Hulka

1.5 million marijuana seizures in 2010 (if I am reading that chart right). Now, I’m not certain if this is 1.5mil unique catches or 1.5million bundles. Lets say for the sake of argument, it is 1.5 million twenty-five pound bundles. Average (elevated) street price given by law enforcement is 25k per bundle. That is $37,500,000,000.00 worth of plant that could have been taxed (nominally, the black market doesn’t need to perpetuate because of high taxation).
Now, obviously, the price would come way down if it were legalized (how much I could not say). None the less, that is quite a bit of tax money there which makes me wonder just how dirty DC is that they want an un-processed plant to stay illegal.


5 posted on 07/16/2012 4:56:33 PM PDT by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: Dallas59

“with higher dosages and with certain unstable or susceptible individuals, maijuana can produce extreme euphoria, hilarity, and overtalkativesness, but it can also intense anxiety and depression as well as delusions, hallucinations, and other psychotic-lie experiences...and the occurrence of psychotic symptoms.” Butcher-abnormal psychology.

Otherwise, this graphic is a great way to invade the US from the south, what comes in from the north besides terrorists?


6 posted on 07/16/2012 5:01:54 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: huldah1776

The dirty lil secret, BC Bud.


7 posted on 07/16/2012 5:03:01 PM PDT by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: umgud
Alkies don't tend to care who they hurt or how far in debt they go; I've personally witnessed some who will destroy everything around them to keep the binge going. I'm not saying one substance is better than the other, just that this "war on drugs" is out of control along with DUI laws and all the other *vice penalties that come with the wares.

Our society as a whole is damaged and I have no faith in DC being able to do anything about it other than figuring ways to capitalize on it for the advancement of government.

8 posted on 07/16/2012 5:08:42 PM PDT by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: Michael Barnes

Yes, the WOD is working just fine for the advancement of gov’t.


9 posted on 07/16/2012 5:46:23 PM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: Michael Barnes
That is $37,500,000,000.00 worth of plant that could have been taxed (nominally, the black market doesn’t need to perpetuate because of high taxation).

Your average user could grow enough in the backyard or a closet to supply personal needs. It grows like a weed.

The only reason that it is a profitable product is the prohibition.

10 posted on 07/16/2012 5:52:06 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: Dallas59
By G-d Obama was right! When he implied that business are built by Government help here's the proof. Without Obama and Holder helping the drug gangs come across the border they wouldn't be anywhere near this successful. He needs to use this chart to prove what government can accomplish when Democrats run it!
11 posted on 07/16/2012 6:15:29 PM PDT by MCF
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To: Michael Barnes

Showing my aged conservative side by having to bing “BC Bud” and here is a page description...

“Canada’s BC Bud.com Remember Republicans Suck - How Can …”


12 posted on 07/16/2012 6:36:55 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Dallas59
I find it hard to believe that Kansas City, at the intersection of I-35 (A major north-south Interstate highway going from Texas to Minnesota), I-70 (A major east-west Interstate going from Utah to Pennsylvania), and I-29 (A major Interstate going north) is "unaffiliated" with regards to cartels.

Or is it not "unaffiliated" but nuetral territory that ALL the cartels use?

13 posted on 07/16/2012 7:14:24 PM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Dallas59

Can you find a chart with Am cities and their drug use. Saw one a few years back DC and Chicago were at/near the top.

IMO DC doesn’t want border closed as it would stop their own source of recreation.

All federal employees should be tested at random.


14 posted on 07/17/2012 5:49:02 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: Hulka; Dallas59
If people want to use drugs then change the laws. Til then, if you use drugs you are supporting the most vile and cruel cartels you can imagine—even worse.

It's equally true that if you support the current laws, you are supporting the most vile and cruel cartels you can imagine—even worse. Criminals profit from drugs only because of the twin factors of demand and prohibition - remove either one and their ability to profit vanishes.

15 posted on 07/17/2012 8:47:54 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies; Dallas59

Don’t break the law.

Breaking the law supports the cartels. Simple.

Many have no idea of the cartels and what they do.

If users break the law and buy drugs (supplied by the cartels), they support them, THEY fund their brutality.


16 posted on 07/17/2012 10:10:08 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: JustSayNoToNannies; Dallas59

Don’t break the law.

Breaking the law supports the cartels. Simple.

Many have no idea of the cartels and what they do.

If users break the law and buy drugs (supplied by the cartels), they support them, THEY fund their brutality.


17 posted on 07/17/2012 10:10:28 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Hulka
Criminals profit from drugs only because of the twin factors of demand and prohibition - remove either one and their ability to profit vanishes.

Don’t break the law.

I don't - but thanks for the tip.

Breaking the law supports the cartels. Simple.

Many have no idea of the cartels and what they do.

If users break the law and buy drugs (supplied by the cartels), they support them, THEY fund their brutality.

Are you saying that cartels would continue to make their drug profits if drug prohibition ended - or did you just hope nobody would notice that you evaded the point?

18 posted on 07/17/2012 10:17:15 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies; Dallas59

Your “point” can be applied to ALL laws and therefore is irrelevant and nonsense.

I’ve made my point, you said your piece.

Let thinking people decide.

Additional communication would be useless, nonproductive and add nothing.

So, you have a choice: a) let thinking people make up their own mind and let it go, or b) respond in a juvenile attempt to argue, thereby proving you are, well argumentative and juvenile.

I’m betting choice “b” will be your option.


19 posted on 07/17/2012 10:27:44 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Hulka
Criminals profit from drugs only because of the twin factors of demand and prohibition - remove either one and their ability to profit vanishes.

Your “point” can be applied to ALL laws

Quite wrong - many laws prohibit acts not done for profit, and many other laws prohibit acts that would remain profitable even if legal (e.g., robbery).

I’ve made my point, you said your piece.

Let thinking people decide.

Additional communication would be useless, nonproductive and add nothing.

I find it easy to believe that you won't listen to reason - but you don't speak for other FReepers in that regard.

So, you have a choice: a) let thinking people make up their own mind and let it go, or b) respond in a juvenile attempt to argue, thereby proving you are, well argumentative and juvenile.

I'll go with c) respond in a reasoned attempt to uncover the truth.

(If you'd like, I'll reply to any further posts of yours by excluding your screen name, so you don't see them and have your certitude disturbed by logic - just let me know if that's your preference.)

20 posted on 07/17/2012 10:55:15 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: Dallas59; MestaMachine

Placemark.

Mesta Machine, is this up your alley?


21 posted on 07/19/2012 11:43:19 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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