Posted on 07/16/2012 6:10:54 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
Apparently, everyone hasn’t been as lucky in life’s lottery as you seem to be.
Do you think everyone who doesn’t have “money” is a Fricking deadbeat? Do you think everybody has hundreds of thousands of dollars laying around?
History will show that ObamaCare is to euthanasia what Roe V Wade was to abortion.
RESPONSES TO CERTAIN QUESTIONS
OF THE UNITED STATES CONFERENCE OF CATHOLIC BISHOPS
CONCERNING ARTIFICIAL NUTRITION AND HYDRATION
First question: Is the administration of food and water (whether by natural or artificial means) to a patient in a “vegetative state” morally obligatory except when they cannot be assimilated by the patient’s body or cannot be administered to the patient without causing significant physical discomfort?
Response: Yes. The administration of food and water even by artificial means is, in principle, an ordinary and proportionate means of preserving life. It is therefore obligatory to the extent to which, and for as long as, it is shown to accomplish its proper finality, which is the hydration and nourishment of the patient. In this way suffering and death by starvation and dehydration are prevented.
Second question: When nutrition and hydration are being supplied by artificial means to a patient in a “permanent vegetative state”, may they be discontinued when competent physicians judge with moral certainty that the patient will never recover consciousness?
Response: No. A patient in a “permanent vegetative state” is a person with fundamental human dignity and must, therefore, receive ordinary and proportionate care which includes, in principle, the administration of water and food even by artificial means.
The Supreme Pontiff Benedict XVI, at the Audience granted to the undersigned Cardinal Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, approved these Responses, adopted in the Ordinary Session of the Congregation, and ordered their publication.
Rome, from the Offices of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, August 1, 2007.
William Cardinal Levada
Prefect
Angelo Amato, S.D.B.
Titular Archbishop of Sila
Secretary
Lots of people. The same sort who created charity hospitals years ago. Churches, synagogues, the Masonic Lodges, Elks and Moose lodges. But, I suppose you don't know any of these good people.
This is a touchy enough subject that you should use a /sarc tag if that is what you meant.
What’s the matter with you?
That’s one of the most evil things I’ve heard in a long time, and if you feel that way move your butt to China.
They’ll be glad to eliminate you when it’s time for you to die.
I'm afraid you're right.
I would like to apply the meat hook approach...let him hang and swing until he dehydrates...he has the face of evil, doesn’t he? Sometimes they just can’t hide it.
Give this guy some horns and a pitchfork and red satin cape and hat, and who do ya think he is! I’ve seen his face before in a picture somewhere...sinister.
This is an article about socialized medicine in Britian. They don’t have insurance like we won’t in the near future under Obamacare because the government will run them out of business.
“The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama’s ‘death panel’ so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their ‘level of productivity in society,’ whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil,” ~Governor Sarah Palin
Freepmail wagglebee to subscribe or unsubscribe from the moral absolutes ping list.
FreeRepublic moral absolutes keyword search
So, you SUPPORT death panels?
This article is about the UK, they have socialized medicine, the people have been paying for health care via high taxes for their whole lives.
This is a PRO-LIFE forum, not some libertarian/utilitarian pro-euthanasia cesspool.
Lord, for the sake of the righteous that remain, please save that island.
Not sure I should be, but, somewhat surprised to find more than one fine candidate for Obama Death Panel member right here on good old Free Republic.
Evil.
A thing for the “good” doctor to consider because he doesn’t have a heart or soul, is this: When providing treatment to the most sick the medical profession LEARNS something! Learning from each case adds to the collective knowledge, improves the state of the science. . .medicine is advanced and treatment improved and possibly a cure discovered.
If we had his way, cures and improved treatments would never come about.
Do you really believe that all people in the United States actually do not get the medical treatment they need? Are you kidding?
The only ones who don’t are the insane and/or drug addled street people, or those that just don’t ask.
Anyone needing care gets it. No one is turned away at the door. If they are at a private hospital and are stable, they are transferred to the community hospital.
No amount of verbal engineering, of attempts to redefine food and water as “medical treatments” that can arbitrarily be withdrawn, will ever change that reality.
***
So you’re of the opinion that surgically implanting a tube so that a person incapable of the pupillary light reflex — let alone swallowing — can have artificial nutrition pumped directly into their stomachs is not a “medical treatment”?
Kiss goodbye to your credibility on this issue amongst anyone with a lick of common sense.
Anyone needing care gets it.
***
You’ve obviously never been or met someone with a chronic condition who tried to get treatment at an ER.
This might surprise you, but ER’s are for Emergencies. They’re not set up, equipped or staffed to treat the multitude of chronic conditions that most of us are afflicted with sooner or later as we age.
At best, you get patched up, handed a prescription you can’t afford to fill (or you wouldn’t be using the ER for primary care in the first place) and given the boot.. until the next crisis.
I can’t speak for ‘em all, but I’d bet the vast majority of ER docs and nurses didn’t go into emergency medicine to practice primary care, and they’re tired of having to provide it so people like you can say “Oh, well you can always go to the ER.”
The ER is not the solution to this problem.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.