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A man who can justify mass murder of innocent human life should be president?
July 17, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 07/17/2012 11:55:45 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

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51 posted on 07/17/2012 12:33:40 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: Jim Robinson

I don’t understand the point of these posts... we know where you stand. Go for it and enjoy. You’re not going to change. Other people aren’t changing. These posts are just inflammatory.


52 posted on 07/17/2012 12:34:01 PM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: gdani

The chance Romney would nominate or a gop senate would confirm a pro choice supreme court nominee is close to zero.

Obama, 100%.

Speaking for myself they better kill me very dead or else I crawl from my death bed to press the lever AGAINST Obama with my dying breath.


53 posted on 07/17/2012 12:34:41 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: EternalVigilance

Just saying what I’m going to do. Don’t really care what anyone else thinks.


54 posted on 07/17/2012 12:35:32 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Jim Robinson
"Moral principles do not depend on a majority vote. Wrong is wrong, even if everybody is wrong. Right is right, even if nobody is right."

-- Fulton J. Sheen, 1953


55 posted on 07/17/2012 12:35:42 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Nutritionally, you are what you eat. Politically, you are what you support.)
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To: Jim Robinson

“I agree and I hope all the ‘Freepers’ over at Free Republic agree, this is a time when we all must stand for principle above Party!”
Sincerely,
David Axelrod.


56 posted on 07/17/2012 12:36:48 PM PDT by ynotjjr (Romney/Rubio 2012 It's called the Constitution. Learn it, live it, love it!)
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To: Jim Robinson

....but enough about Romney.....what about Obama?................


57 posted on 07/17/2012 12:36:55 PM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: Jim Robinson
“There remains the one standard that has not yet been universally used, namely, the choosing of candidates on moral grounds. A nation always gets the kind of politicians it deserves. When our moral standards are different, our legislation will be different. As long as the decent people refuse to believe that morality must manifest itself in every sphere of human activity, including the political, they will not meet the challenge of Marxism. Contemporary history proves that modern political leaders, devoid of a moral inspiration and relying solely on a mass basis (might makes right), proves ineffectual in time of crisis."

-- Fulton Sheen, “COMMUNISM and the CONSCIENCE of the WEST” -1948


58 posted on 07/17/2012 12:37:10 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Nutritionally, you are what you eat. Politically, you are what you support.)
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To: Williams
Speaking for myself they better kill me very dead or else I crawl from my death bed to press the lever AGAINST Obama with my dying breath.

No dying allowed--for then you are enrolled to vote DemoRat from the great beyond.

59 posted on 07/17/2012 12:37:44 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: All

“I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that his justice cannot sleep forever.”
— Thomas Jefferson, our father


60 posted on 07/17/2012 12:37:57 PM PDT by veracious
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To: DJ MacWoW
It all boils down to my faith and politics cannot be separated.

Right!

And neither can Romney's and Obama's be separated - something their supporters refuse to recognize. They see them just as political men.

"For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms".

They are godless/pawns of satan.

61 posted on 07/17/2012 12:38:44 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Jim Robinson

Gimme an alternative to p*ssing into the wind and I will be there.


62 posted on 07/17/2012 12:39:28 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Jim Robinson
Jimmy Carter: I'd be 'comfortable' with Mitt Romney
63 posted on 07/17/2012 12:39:34 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Nutritionally, you are what you eat. Politically, you are what you support.)
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To: Above My Pay Grade

Won’t Get Fooled Again
-Pete Townshend

We’ll be fighting in the streets
With our children at our feet
And the morals that they worship will be gone
And the men who spurred us on
Sit in judgement of our wrongs
They decide and the shotgun sings the song

I’ll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I’ll get on my knees and pray
We don’t get fooled again

The change, it had to come
We knew it all along
We were liberated from the four-minute song
And the world looks just the same
And history ain’t changed
‘Cause the banners, they all flown in the last war
I’ll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I’ll get on my knees and pray
We don’t get fooled again
No, no!

I’ll move myself and my family aside
If we happen to be left half alive
I’ll get all my papers and smile at the sky
For I know that the hypnotized never lie

Do ya?

Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

There’s nothing in the street
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
And the parting on the left
Is now the parting on the right
And the beards have all grown longer overnight

I’ll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I’ll get on my knees and pray
We don’t get fooled again
Don’t get fooled again
No, no!

Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss


64 posted on 07/17/2012 12:40:04 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Jimmy Carter: I'd be 'comfortable' with Mitt Romney

Doubtless. ;)

65 posted on 07/17/2012 12:40:49 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: WatchOutForSnakes
Funny, I still don't see those two third-party votes in Obama's column.

It's simple math - a vote for a third-party candidate does not go to Obama. It does not help Romney, but it basically goes off to the side and is not in play.

Try making the case for Romney without inane, worn-out GOP-E talking points. We hear them every four years. I guess it beats the GOP-E actually trying to do something to satisfy the base's core concerns.

66 posted on 07/17/2012 12:40:49 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Perfect.


67 posted on 07/17/2012 12:41:03 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Nutritionally, you are what you eat. Politically, you are what you support.)
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To: Former Fetus

>>>Does it mean you are voting for Obama, then? Let’s face it, staying home in November IS a vote for Obama.<<<

A vote for Romney is, for all intents and purposes, a vote for Obama as well. They are both pro-abortion, anti-gun Socialists.

I’d just a soon see the Democrat party get all the “credit” for destroying America, as have a faux-Conservative like Romney do the same things in the name of “Conservatism”.

We also need to send a message to the RINOs and moderates, that if they try to force any more RINOs like Mitt on us, we will NOT go along.

If Obama is re-elected it will be because the RINOs decided they would rather have Obama than a real conservative, and they demonstrated this by supporting a left-winger like Romney in the primaries.


68 posted on 07/17/2012 12:41:54 PM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: Jim Robinson
Romney in the White House along with a GOP House and Senate... we will see some kind of repeal of Obamacare plus reform like buying health insurance across state lines and tort reform.

We are not going to see gay marriage enacted at a Federal level.

We are going to see corporate tax cuts and other tax reforms/simplifications like closing of loopholes.

We are not going to see further EPA activism because the House won't allow it.

Foreign policy will be on much safer ground.

Now, if we get Obama all these things go in the other direction.

You can pretend both candidates are the same but I see a big difference and at such a turning point where Obama would definitely take us down a road of heavy socialism, perversion and fear on the national defence front the choice is not so difficult to make.

69 posted on 07/17/2012 12:42:28 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Zakeet
Actually rather than a Hobson's choice, it is more a Procrustean Bed.

Either choice is fatal.

70 posted on 07/17/2012 12:42:46 PM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: presently no screen name

Amen!


71 posted on 07/17/2012 12:44:21 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: veracious

In Jesus’ Name. Amen.


72 posted on 07/17/2012 12:44:21 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: ROTB

It wasn’t conservatives targeting conservatives. The GOP-E just followed their own plan.


73 posted on 07/17/2012 12:45:12 PM PDT by donna (Mitt quote: ..gay couples raising kids. That's the American way..(Penn St feels same about showers))
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To: Jim Robinson

Obama or Romney?


74 posted on 07/17/2012 12:45:17 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: Jim Robinson
"Still, if you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed, if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not so costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival. There may be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no chance of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves."

"Truth is incontrovertible. Ignorance can deride it; panic may resent it; malice may destroy it; but there it is."

-- Winston Churchill


75 posted on 07/17/2012 12:46:19 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Nutritionally, you are what you eat. Politically, you are what you support.)
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To: ynotjjr
If you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything.

One doesn't really have any principles if they don't stand on them.

76 posted on 07/17/2012 12:46:19 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: Jim Robinson

I think we have two groups of conservatives to consider. Jim and I belong to states where Obama is going to win no matter how we vote. Our vote going to third party is not going to change outcome but it can show how much support a true conservative could be passing up.

Conservatives in a swing state has a deeper responsibility. On the one hand they can signal that we should not be forced into voting for a liberals by the party. On the other hand we might have a slightly better chance of making it through the next 4 years with a liberal who has some need to attract conservative support rather than a liberal who does not need us and hates us.

I will not second guess that second group’s final decision but am thankful I don’t need to make it.


77 posted on 07/17/2012 12:46:49 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Above My Pay Grade
Oddly enough, all the DUmmies and Kos Kiddies are busily lecturing their own, online, that "a vote for any third party candidate is automatically a vote for Mitt Romney... AND THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS!!!"

Logically, then: this means that anyone voting third party, in any given presidential election, is actually casting two votes, simultaneously!

CINO/Leftist logic... just takes your breath away, don't it? ;)

78 posted on 07/17/2012 12:47:01 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Okay, under the facts we are facing, who in your scenario is “ice cream” that has a chance of winning? And don’t tell me that Romney would be just as bad for the country as another 4 years of Obama because IMHO that is just irrational.


79 posted on 07/17/2012 12:47:44 PM PDT by WatchOutForSnakes
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To: ArrogantBustard

I sometimes really wish for a “like” button on FR. Your post is one reason why.


80 posted on 07/17/2012 12:47:56 PM PDT by Ingtar ("As the light begins to fade in the city on the hill")
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To: veracious

” The Tree is Known by its Fruit” Jesus


81 posted on 07/17/2012 12:47:56 PM PDT by chicken head
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To: RaceBannon; ArrogantBustard

I live in a predominantely African-American area. It has been in the papers that on previous elections, when the polls closed, the poll workers “voted” for those people who hadn’t bothered to come out and vote. In other words, they gave extra votes to the Democratic candidates. So, I stand by my statement that staying home is a vote for Obama!


82 posted on 07/17/2012 12:48:00 PM PDT by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: DTogo

>>>Like McQueeg’s choice of Sarah, Romney’s choice of a running mate will either energize or neutralize his candidacy.
My recommendation: ALLEN WEST <<<

I like Allen West, but for me, there is no VP candidate who could even begin to cover the Socialist, Abortionist STENCH on Romney, and that stench would only spread to the “conservative” VP candidate.

In other words, if West, Palin or any other conservative takes the 2nd spot on the ticket, it will make that individual a phony conservative, in my eyes.


83 posted on 07/17/2012 12:49:48 PM PDT by Above My Pay Grade
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To: justice14

I think if anyone is entitled to express their opinion it’s Jim Robinson. If he doesn’t throw me off for voting against Obama and for Romney that’s a plus. Opinions may be inflammatory, so what? Why should Jim not express that he’s pissed about the gop nominee?


84 posted on 07/17/2012 12:50:05 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Jim Robinson

(Sorry this is so “long”—it is my weakness in expressing ideas, if everyone hasn’t noticed already!)

Our “choice” was taken away by the One Worlders with GHWB-—they do not give us a chance—they throw bones to confuse or defer the needed revolution until they have a complete iron grip on our country and the Courts and no chance of a successful coup to restore order and liberty and our Constitutional Republic.

Like Mark Levin stated-—We are now post-Constitutional—and have been since Reagan left. The American Ethics are being destroyed and replaced by Marxist lying and immorality and perversion of all institutions to destroy our capability to organize and be effective, as they manage to corrupt the young and make them into useful sex-addled idiots who hate parental authority along with Western Civilization prior to Socialism.

Zero and the Marxists have their evil tentacles and control into every institution—even the “Republican” party. They are working on removing the 1st and 2nd Amendments which will make it impossible to win any rebellion. They will control the message to the masses. Our votes don’t matter at the National level, anyhow—it is Holder-types who will count the votes and decide who “wins” and they set it up so it doesn’t matter “who” anymore.

The only hope is grass roots rebellion and local elections. The power of centralized government (Marxism) is now cemented into our legal system— since the SCOTUS deliberately destroyed the logic and reason necessary for Justice and Liberty. We need to get back to Rule of Law and the Constitution being the Supreme Law of the Land, but it will probably take a mass rebellion to eject these atheists/socialists.

MSM makes the brainwashing of the masses so easy. We have our work cut out for us. There has to be a fight for the return of this Republic. It is the last hope on earth for man.

People can start by controlling the worldview of their children. Teach them the Truth. Get Logic and Reason back into the youth. MSM uses sex and drugs to ensnare and entice the youth-—we need to get them back and control the schools and what media they watch and reinsert Classical education which is drenched in Virtue ethics and logic and reason and a belief in Moral Absolutes (God).

We have to rid this nation of the evil German Postmodernists who killed God and wants a Nation under Satan or zero or whatever. Arbitrary laws were NEVER supposed to be in a nation under the Rule of Law.


85 posted on 07/17/2012 12:50:23 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Former Fetus
Former Fetus, if you imagine that then you have a personal obligation to go out and convert an Obot into a Mittbot ~ seems to me that should keep you real busy for a long time.

BTW, try that at an innercity beer joint ~ they're friendly ~ maybe a pool hall. Go to it jack!

86 posted on 07/17/2012 12:51:11 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Williams
The chance Romney would nominate or a gop senate would confirm a pro choice supreme court nominee is close to zero.

You are deceiving yourself, I believe. The best we could hope for out of Romney and the "go along" crowd in the House and Senate is another Roberts.

87 posted on 07/17/2012 12:51:11 PM PDT by Ingtar ("As the light begins to fade in the city on the hill")
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To: Jim Robinson

Great post! There are conservatives and not-conservatives.


88 posted on 07/17/2012 12:51:11 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: dirtboy

Here is the case for Romney:

Romney is a politician not an idealogue...... all of our Presidents are politicians
Ronald Reagan was a politician. Politicians have few if any firm convictions (even if they say they do)

What politicians need are votes and money. To get the votes and money they REFLECT the will of the people (at least the people who vote for them)

For Romney to get elected in Mass he reflected the will of those people . They are more liberal ...thus he was more liberal

To get elected President he HAS to be more conservative.If he gets in power and wants to remain in power he has to fix this economy by doing what his supporters want.
He will have to fix the economy by sticking to the tenants of the Right

Exactly how far right he will go is impossible to know but he will Have to govern from the right

Obama is beholden to the radical left ...he shows no inclination to even nod to the right . He is more of an ideologue than a politician .

We will all ge better off with a politician (Romney) who listens to some of the voices on the right.

Simple truth


89 posted on 07/17/2012 12:51:45 PM PDT by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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To: WatchOutForSnakes
And don’t tell me what I am or am not "allowed" to tell you, you pissant leftist worm.

If you want me to vote for Willard Mitt Romney, tell me why he's such a great guy. You're free to forego that, and just rattle on about the horrors of 0dinga (with which I agree) ... but in doing so you'll have lost your opportunity to convince me.

Your choice.

90 posted on 07/17/2012 12:51:45 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Williams
Meaning in most cases he changed his position.

DUH!! What part of the KNOWN LIAR is believable to you? The part that wants YOUR VOTE?

Romney’s softness on the gay agenda, climate change, etc are a sad reflection on the weakness in our society as a whole

BS!! SOFTNESS??? - when his made his state the FIRST STATE to embrace same sex marriage. Not the last state but FIRST and you dare say 'softness'. When he MADE his state the FIRST state to embrace socialistic healthcare!! The FIRST state.

Don't blame society on HIS EVILNESS!! His has forced his evilness - Anti-AMERICAN values - on them by initiating same sex marriage and his pro abortion socialistic healthcare - that he is VERY PROUD of!!!

Here is a warning for you...

"Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter." Isaish 5:20

91 posted on 07/17/2012 12:52:41 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Jim Robinson

Boss:
You and I can safely site our consciences here in the Golden State but really, what are our choices?

Norquist, Rove, GOPe all screwed us out of better candidates.


92 posted on 07/17/2012 12:54:08 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Williams

I could not agree with you more. Romney is the last one I would like to see nominated (save Ron Paul) but he is infinitely better than the one in the WH now.


93 posted on 07/17/2012 12:54:49 PM PDT by jesseam (eliev)
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To: ROTB; donna
1) The LSM targeted conservatives. 2) Conservatives targeted conservatives, ignoring “Reagan’s 11th commandment”

Really?

Romney Ramps Up Attack Ads Against Gingrich to Unprecedented Levels

Turn on the TV or radio in Florida these past few days and you’ll soon be subjected to the avalanche of negative ads, most of them purchased courtesy of Romney Co. The attacks come in a bewildering variety—from accusations that Newt worked with Nancy Pelosi “to support China’s brutal one-child policy” to Spanish-language ads that say Newt called Spanish “the language of the ghetto.” Fannie and Freddie have become household names.

94 posted on 07/17/2012 12:55:09 PM PDT by kevcol
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To: Above My Pay Grade

You just summed it up.


95 posted on 07/17/2012 12:55:23 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Jimmy Valentine

Look-— voting for Willard is like going to purgatory-—awful but still a chance at redemption. Voting for (or not against) OBaalMao is like sliding down to hell, head first into the flames. Truth is we may never get this nation back on course correction conservative but if we yield to the leftist tyrants in defeatism then start reserving the tickets to hades.


96 posted on 07/17/2012 12:56:07 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Obviously it doesn’t.

Now a question for you. If you vote for other in that situation, who decides who the next Attorney General, head of DHS, Defense Department, Regulatory Czar, HHS Secretary, Communications Czar, next Supreme Court Justices, etc.... will be?

Will our Justice Department continue to fight against any state that protects its own citizens? Will crimes be prosecuted without regard to a person’s skin color?

There is SO MUCH at stake here.

I don’t like Romney. At all. And I understand where a lot of people are coming from on this. For me the question comes down to this: If I had the chance to keep Hitler from carrying out the Holocaust, by voting for a disgusting but less potently-evil candidate, would I instead vote for somebody “pure” who will never win?

Everybody has to answer that for him/herself, but I for one would have a very tough time hearing the screams from the torture chambers, knowing I could have prevented them but chose not to.


97 posted on 07/17/2012 12:56:56 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Former Fetus
In other words, they gave extra votes to the Democratic candidates. So, I stand by my statement that staying home is a vote for Obama!

Now THAT'S a valid point ... in response I offer that I do NOT advocate staying home. Ever.

In WV, we have elections for Senate, House, Governor, Attorney General, State Senate, State House, Judges, Sheriff, County Commission, Dog Catcher, and probably some damnable tax levy ... even though I say "a plague o' both your houses" to the top of the ballot, I'm not going to miss all the rest of that stuff.

98 posted on 07/17/2012 12:57:31 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Larry Lucido

I voted for Newt and he didn’t win. I don’t know what else to do other than vote for Mitt and the down-ballot conservatives.


99 posted on 07/17/2012 12:57:31 PM PDT by Heart of Georgia (It's not a penalty - it's obamaTAX. Make him own it.)
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To: Williams

The same reason it’d be annoying for a Romney supporter to write the same article time and time again why he loves Romney. We get it. We understand your opinion. I know opinions can be inflammatory, but then why keep posting them?


100 posted on 07/17/2012 12:58:13 PM PDT by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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