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Trumka: Big Labor to Push Dems and GOP to Adopt ‘Second Bill of Rights’
CNS news ^ | July 17, 2012 | Gabriella Hoffman

Posted on 07/17/2012 12:25:18 PM PDT by listenhillary

Americans have a “right” to full employment, housing, health care, collective bargaining and protection against old age, sickness and unemployment, according to AFL-CIO president Richard Trumka.

Trumka says Big Labor intends to push both the Democratic Party and the GOP to adopt what he called “The Second Bill of Rights” at presidential nominating conventions this summer.

“America’s Second Bill of Rights is a broad-based statement of what the American people need and what they deserve. If some of it sounds redundant, it is because we once took many of these rights for granted,” Trumka said last Thursday at the National Press Club.

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1 posted on 07/17/2012 12:25:26 PM PDT by listenhillary
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To: listenhillary

He outlined five main tenets of the Second Bill of Rights, which would include the “right to full employment and a living wage”; the “right to full participation in the electoral process”; the “right to a quality education”; the “right to a voice at work” and the “right to a secure and healthy future.”

The idea of a Second Bill of Rights was inspired by President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s 1944 State of the Union address, which called for greater “economic rights” including employment through a living wage, collective bargaining, housing, education, medical care, among many things.


2 posted on 07/17/2012 12:26:47 PM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: listenhillary

Looks to me they came straight from the Soviet Constitution.


3 posted on 07/17/2012 12:27:59 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: dfwgator

Yes, it does.


4 posted on 07/17/2012 12:29:41 PM PDT by KansasGirl
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To: listenhillary

20 years ago this would have been a humorous story in the Onion.

Commies are out in full bloom this 2012 drought.


5 posted on 07/17/2012 12:32:48 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: listenhillary

Just like Rush has always said “Womb to the Tomb.”


6 posted on 07/17/2012 12:33:35 PM PDT by tiki
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To: dfwgator

>>Looks to me they came straight from the Soviet Constitution.<<

The 25 Points of Hitler’s Nazi Party

(http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/25points.htm) — also quoted here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2312608/posts

1. We demand the union of all Germans in a Great Germany on the basis of the principle of self-determination of all peoples.

2. We demand that the German people have rights equal to those of other nations; and that the Peace Treaties of Versailles and St. Germain shall be abrogated.

3. We demand land and territory (colonies) for the maintenance of our people and the settlement of our surplus population.

4. Only those who are our fellow countrymen can become citizens. Only those who have German blood, regardless of creed, can be our countrymen. Hence no Jew can be a countryman.

5. Those who are not citizens must live in Germany as foreigners and must be subject to the law of aliens.

6. The right to choose the government and determine the laws of the State shall belong only to citizens. We therefore demand that no public office, of whatever nature, whether in the central government, the province, or the municipality, shall be held by anyone who is not a citizen.

We wage war against the corrupt parliamentary administration whereby men are appointed to posts by favor of the party without regard to character and fitness.

7. We demand that the State shall above all undertake to ensure that every citizen shall have the possibility of living decently and earning a livelihood. If it should not be possible to feed the whole population, then aliens (non-citizens) must be expelled from the Reich.

8. Any further immigration of non-Germans must be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans who have entered Germany since August 2, 1914, shall be compelled to leave the Reich immediately.

9. All citizens must possess equal rights and duties.

10. The first duty of every citizen must be to work mentally or physically. No individual shall do any work that offends against the interest of the community to the benefit of all.

Therefore we demand:

11. That all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished.

12. Since every war imposes on the people fearful sacrifices in blood and treasure, all personal profit arising from the war must be regarded as treason to the people. We therefore demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

13. We demand the nationalization of all trusts.

14. We demand profit-sharing in large industries.

15. We demand a generous increase in old-age pensions.

16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.

17. We demand an agrarian reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to expropriate the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.

18. We demand that ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race.

19. We demand that Roman law, which serves a materialist ordering of the world, be replaced by German common law.

20. In order to make it possible for every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education, and thus the opportunity to reach into positions of leadership, the State must assume the responsibility of organizing thoroughly the entire cultural system of the people. The curricula of all educational establishments shall be adapted to practical life. The conception of the State Idea (science of citizenship) must be taught in the schools from the very beginning. We demand that specially talented children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State.

21. The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young.

22. We demand the abolition of the regular army and the creation of a national (folk) army.

23. We demand that there be a legal campaign against those who propagate deliberate political lies and disseminate them through the press. In order to make possible the creation of a German press, we demand:

(a) All editors and their assistants on newspapers published in the German language shall be German citizens.

(b) Non-German newspapers shall only be published with the express permission of the State. They must not be published in the German language.

(c) All financial interests in or in any way affecting German newspapers shall be forbidden to non-Germans by law, and we demand that the punishment for transgressing this law be the immediate suppression of the newspaper and the expulsion of the non-Germans from the Reich.

Newspapers transgressing against the common welfare shall be suppressed. We demand legal action against those tendencies in art and literature that have a disruptive influence upon the life of our folk, and that any organizations that offend against the foregoing demands shall be dissolved.

24. We demand freedom for all religious faiths in the state, insofar as they do not endanger its existence or offend the moral and ethical sense of the Germanic race.

The party as such represents the point of view of a positive Christianity without binding itself to any one particular confession. It fights against the Jewish materialist spirit within and without, and is convinced that a lasting recovery of our folk can only come about from within on the pinciple:

COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD

25. In order to carry out this program we demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the State, the unconditional authority by the political central parliament of the whole State and all its organizations.

The formation of professional committees and of committees representing the several estates of the realm, to ensure that the laws promulgated by the central authority shall be carried out by the federal states.

The leaders of the party undertake to promote the execution of the foregoing points at all costs, if necessary at the sacrifice of their own lives.


7 posted on 07/17/2012 12:34:17 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (obozo could bring back literal slavery with chains and still he will get 85+% of the black vote)
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To: listenhillary

FURT


8 posted on 07/17/2012 12:35:39 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: listenhillary

Right to full employment = can’t be fired for poor performance.


9 posted on 07/17/2012 12:36:23 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: listenhillary

The Bill of Rights is NOT a laundry list of what government can GIVE you.

The Bill of Rights is a LIMIT of the POWER of government.

Socialists never can understand this.


10 posted on 07/17/2012 12:38:53 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: listenhillary
“... and protection against old age,...” ?

Not to wish him any bad luck, but I hope he gets his wish on that one and never has to be bothered with old age.

11 posted on 07/17/2012 12:39:15 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: listenhillary

“Trumka says Big Labor intends to push both the Democratic Party and the GOP...”

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Personally, I intened to continue to push BACK against Unions.

No dead-assed, attitude-loaded Union labor is allowed to set foot on my home or businesses properties.


12 posted on 07/17/2012 12:40:04 PM PDT by EyeGuy (Armed, judgmental, fiscally responsible heterosexual.)
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To: Huskrrrr

Can’t quit either.


13 posted on 07/17/2012 12:41:35 PM PDT by CJ Wolf
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To: 2banana

“Socialists never can understand this.”

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The vast majority of Americans don’t understand that the magnificent gift of our Constitution, is in its fundamental nature as a tight list of PROSCRIBED government powers.

If it ain’t in there, by law they shouldn’t be doing it.


14 posted on 07/17/2012 12:43:00 PM PDT by EyeGuy (Armed, judgmental, fiscally responsible heterosexual.)
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To: listenhillary
I believe that Unions have a legitimate role; but reshaping Constitutional Government is certainly not one of them. Mr. Trumka is effectively proposing a communist society--replacing the squirrel as an object lesson for our youth-- being taught to labor & store fruits of labor for future needs--with the equivalent of some intestinal parasite, drawing its subsistence, involuntarily, from an invaded host.

This is the exact opposite of the ethos that once made America the envy of the world. It is the hopelessly flawed theory of entitlements that destroys character & subverts a social order. (See, for example, Collectivist/Egalitarianism Sabotages Human Potential.)

William Flax

15 posted on 07/17/2012 12:45:52 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: All

Atlas Shrugged


16 posted on 07/17/2012 12:46:00 PM PDT by ak267 (The Law Of the Sea Treaty...LOST...must be defeated...CALL YOUR SENATOR!!!)
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To: listenhillary

A government that you give the power to grant everything you want WILL take everything you have, starting with your freedom and ending with your life.

Trumpka knows this. In fact, the power to do that is exactly what he wants.

Either that, or he’s incredibly stupid.


17 posted on 07/17/2012 12:48:39 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: listenhillary; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; ...
RE :”He outlined five main tenets of the Second Bill of Rights, which would include the “right to full employment and a living wage”; the “right to full participation in the electoral process”; the “right to a quality education”; the “right to a voice at work” and the “right to a secure and healthy future.

I believe second one in his list is ‘the right to vote.’ Lots of 'free stuff' in that bill

I had a Democrat here tell me he thinks EVERYONE in the country, legal or illegal, citizen or non-citizen, criminal or law-biding has the right to vote here. He said he doesnt believe in voter regulations (those must be the only regulations he disagrees with) and he said the country will be better off if everyone here, or the most number, votes.

Most of you know I feel the opposite of that, that too many of the wrong people vote and I don't just mean Democrats, although they are high on my list.

Too much voting for 'free stuff'.

18 posted on 07/17/2012 12:49:09 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Irepeal Obam-ney Care ))
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To: listenhillary
Just because Mr. Trumka fancies himself a political figure, doesn't make him one. It's time the threads that weave unions and politicians together get cut, no matter how difficult or painful it may be.
19 posted on 07/17/2012 12:53:06 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: listenhillary
the "right to full employment and a living wage";

This will lead to the violation of the rights of and the enslavement of business owners who are the ones who hire the workers and pay their wages.

20 posted on 07/17/2012 12:56:53 PM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: listenhillary
protection against old age

Richie Trumka and the Democrats can give me Eternal Youth with an Act of Congress?

21 posted on 07/17/2012 1:00:57 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: sickoflibs; listenhillary; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; ...

” Most of you know I feel the opposite of that, that too many of the wrong people vote and I don’t just mean Democrats, although they are high on my list.

Too much voting for ‘free stuff’. “

I’m ready for a voter “literacy test” in ENGLISH ONLY.


22 posted on 07/17/2012 1:02:57 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: CJ Wolf

Good point.


23 posted on 07/17/2012 1:04:32 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: listenhillary

Why exactly do the American people (as a whole) “deserve” any of these things? From what I’ve seen, there are plenty of Americans who barely deserve their citizenship.


24 posted on 07/17/2012 1:04:51 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: liberalh8ter
Mr. Trumka attended law school while employed in the coal mines of SW PA. He sought his fortune in union politics rising through the ranks of the UMWA.

Seems he spends most of his time now with the ACORN / SEIU crowd. Doesn't appear to be much advocating for the coal miners of America? There are very few working mines left in the area (not from a lack of coal).

I don't get to spend much time these days with my brothers that were UMWA members. I wonder what they think of Mr. Trumka?

25 posted on 07/17/2012 1:06:52 PM PDT by Ramcat (Thank You American Veterans)
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To: sickoflibs

I know other Democrats who feel the same way about voting. Crazy!


26 posted on 07/17/2012 1:07:01 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: listenhillary
Americans have a “right” to full employment, housing, health care, collective bargaining and protection against old age, sickness and unemployment, according to AFL-CIO president Richard Trumka.

Well, back in the 19th century, slaves had most of these things.

27 posted on 07/17/2012 1:09:27 PM PDT by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: listenhillary

Union terrorism shall be punishable by death or exile.

Unions shall be treated like any other employment agency with fees received for services from members treated by the IRS as ordinary income.

Employers shall be allowed to sue union employees for damages for work stoppages or slow downs that can be shown to be at the direction of union leaders. Companies must be given a 180 day notice before a strike.

Fees received by political campaigns from unions shall be treated the same as those from any other corporate entity.


28 posted on 07/17/2012 1:12:29 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: Ramcat
Trumka's a tool - a very disposable tool - used by others whose motives he really doesn't comprehend. No one will be more surprised than he when the butchers bill comes due. And it always does.
29 posted on 07/17/2012 1:13:13 PM PDT by Noumenon (I will not pay the Obama jizya.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; listenhillary; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy
RE :”I’m ready for a voter “literacy test” in ENGLISH ONLY

Bad news, the Republican congress in 2006 re-authorized the voting rights act AS IS nio changes and GWB signed it into law and it requires polling places to provide ballots in non-English languages specified by what the minority locals speak.

In fact it forces a number of states like Texas to get Holders permission to require voter IDs.

Who is the enemy? Romney will do what?

And GWB signed the light bulb ban.

30 posted on 07/17/2012 1:13:33 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Irepeal Obam-ney Care ))
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To: listenhillary

We the sensible people of the United States, in an attempt to help everyone get along, restore some semblance of justice, avoid any more riots, keep our nation safe, promote positive behavior and secure the blessings of debt free liberty to ourselves and our great great-great grandchildren, hereby try one more time to ordain and establish some common sense guidelines for the terminally whiny, guilt-ridden, delusional, and other liberal pinko commie bed-wetters.

We hold these truths to be self-evident: That a whole lot of people were confused by the Bill of Rights and are so dim that they require a Bill of No Rights.

ARTICLE I — You do not have the right to a new car, big screen TV or any form of wealth. More power to you if you can legally acquire them, but no one is guaranteeing anything.

ARTICLE II — You do not have the right to never be offended. This country is based on freedom, and that means the freedom for everyone, not just you! You may leave the room, turn the channel, express a different opinion, etc., but the world is full of idiots and probably always will be.

ARTICLE III — You do not have the right to be free from harm. If you stick a screwdriver in your eye, learn to be more careful. Do not expect the tool manufacturer to make you and all your relatives independently wealthy.

ARTICLE IV — You do not have the right to free food and housing. Americans are the most charitable people to be found, and will gladly help anyone in need but we are quickly growing weary of subsidizing generations of professional couch potatoes who achieve nothing more than the creation of another generation of professional couch potatoes.

ARTICLE V — You do not have the right to free health care. That would be nice but, from the looks of public housing, we’re just not interested in government run health care.

ARTICLE VI — You do not have the right to physically harm other people. If you kidnap, rape, intentionally maim or kill someone, don’t be surprised if the rest of us want to see you fry in the electric chair.

ARTICLE VII — You do not have the right to the possessions of others. If you rob, cheat or coerce away the goods or services of other citizens, don’t be surprised if the rest of us get together and lock you away in a place where you still won’t have the right to a big screen TV or a life of leisure.

ARTICLE VIII — You don’t have the right to demand that our children risk their lives in foreign wars to soothe your aching conscience. We hate oppressive governments and won’t lift a finger to stop you from going to fight, if you’d like. However, we do not enjoy parenting the entire world and do not want to spend so much of our time battling each and every little tyrant with a military uniform and a funny hat.

ARTICLE IX — You don’t have the right to a job. All of us sure want all of you to have one, and will gladly help you in hard times, but we expect you to take advantage of the opportunities of education and vocational training laid before you to make yourself useful.

ARTICLE X — You do not have the right to happiness. Being an American means that you have the right to pursue happiness — which by the way, is a lot easier if you are unencumbered (unhindered, unchallenged) by an over abundance of idiotic laws created by those of you who were confused by the Bill of Rights.


31 posted on 07/17/2012 1:15:53 PM PDT by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: listenhillary

Hey Trumka...PUSH THIS!

I GOT YER “SECOND BILL OF RIGHTS” RIGHT HERE!


32 posted on 07/17/2012 1:16:14 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt the Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
protection against old age

Richie Trumka and the Democrats can give me Eternal Youth with an Act of Congress?

Well, "free" Rogaine and Viagra, anyway.

33 posted on 07/17/2012 1:17:45 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: Noumenon
Trumka's a tool - a very disposable tool - used by others whose motives he really doesn't comprehend. No one will be more surprised than he when the butchers bill comes due. And it always does.

Agree with the tool and disposable part, but he's a "workers paradise" believer. I guess coal is just too dirty for paradise?

34 posted on 07/17/2012 1:18:33 PM PDT by Ramcat (Thank You American Veterans)
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To: listenhillary

Americans have a “right” to full employment, housing, health care, collective bargaining and protection against old age, sickness and unemployment, according to AFL-CIO president Richard Trumka.

Trumka is a Communist. He means that the Government should provide all of these rights to you through taking from those that work......


35 posted on 07/17/2012 1:25:15 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: listenhillary

Americans have a “right” to full employment, housing, health care, collective bargaining and protection against old age, sickness and unemployment, according to AFL-CIO president Richard Trumka.

Will agree if they’ll add pet care and pet drug insurance - no co-pay. /s


36 posted on 07/17/2012 1:25:27 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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To: freedumb2003

Read: ‘Hitlerland American Eyewitness to the Nazi Rise to Power’
Nagorski
Eerily familiar.


37 posted on 07/17/2012 1:27:12 PM PDT by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: lowbridge

“Bill of No Rights” courtesy of Libertarian Lewis Napper: http://web.archive.org/web/20030801200633/http://www.lp.org/lpnews/0010/campaign2000.html


38 posted on 07/17/2012 1:27:17 PM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: listenhillary

It’s not a Bill of Rights, it’s a Free Lunch Menu


39 posted on 07/17/2012 1:36:26 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Doogle

“FURT”

____

+1 in Spades, Fing Commie!


40 posted on 07/17/2012 1:49:33 PM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Think Logan’s Run.


41 posted on 07/17/2012 1:55:39 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: listenhillary

Isnt this what is bringing Europeans down right now..I know in Italy they they have somthing sumular and its a big fail. As for the UN. They are a corrupt organization and I would love to see a good investigation of them.


42 posted on 07/17/2012 2:33:23 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker
And GWB signed the light bulb ban.

and since this thread is about a 2nd BOR, lets not forget that ole W signed mcquueg/feingold and promised to sign an *assault weapon* ban extension...

pillar of protections of the 1st and 2nd Amendments...

and where does mittens stand with a *bi-partisan* CONgress on any of the BORs ???

43 posted on 07/17/2012 2:49:11 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: sickoflibs; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy

” Bad news, the Republican congress in 2006 re-authorized the voting rights act AS IS nio changes and GWB signed it into law and it requires polling places to provide ballots in non-English languages specified by what the minority locals speak.”

Wonderful.....

” And GWB signed the light bulb ban. “

I am still finding out about idiotic things GWB did while in office. No end to them.


44 posted on 07/17/2012 2:55:55 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: listenhillary

Aside from the cost Mrs.Lincoln, how did you like the communism./s


45 posted on 07/17/2012 2:59:13 PM PDT by VTenigma
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To: listenhillary

These are not rights, they are entitlements. There is a. Difference. Rights do not need to be paid for by others.


46 posted on 07/17/2012 3:02:38 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (this space for rent)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

“I am still finding out about idiotic things GWB did...”

GWB was a ‘useful idiot’, beholden to the one-world establishment, still to a great extent being directed in this country by one GHWB...


47 posted on 07/17/2012 3:22:14 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

” GWB was a ‘useful idiot’, beholden to the one-world establishment”

All part of daddy’s New World Order......apple didn’t fall far from the tree.


48 posted on 07/17/2012 3:30:09 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: listenhillary

Old age is not a right. It is a fact of life. His guy is a marxist wacko. Anyone who follows him deserves what they get.

I urge FRiends not to do anything to help anyone who belongs to a union or thinks Obama is the anointed one. Let them learn how to fend for themselves before things get out of hand.

Changing the essence of the Republic though a second Bill of Rights is an act worthy of war. Our founding fathers fought against lesser evils.

Before that war is fought, allow Obama’s people commit self-genocide. That is their culture. Just look at Chicago and any other rat-run city. Let them kill each other. Cut them off from their entitlements and watch them kill each other, and our Republic will become stronger.


49 posted on 07/17/2012 4:40:31 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA
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To: listenhillary
We are on the verge of a turn. I see more and more of this type of thing. Don't discredit the rage that is out there this election season. For people now dependent on the State for survival, this is what they expect.
50 posted on 07/17/2012 5:34:00 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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