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Obama's Next Target: Doctors
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | July 17, 2012 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 07/17/2012 5:30:47 PM PDT by Kaslin

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RUSH: You know who's next? Doctors. And it's not Obamacare. It's not Medicare copayments. It's not any of that. You know how they're gonna go after doctors? Very simple, and I might even see Obama make this speech this summer. It might even happen before the campaign.

It depends on how successful they judge this current tactic to be. See if you can envision President Obama, the president of the United States, after giving a speech where he says, "You got a business? You couldn't build that! Somebody else made that happen," transform to doctors. "Is it really fair that people should get rich off the misery and sickness of their neighbors? Where is the justice in that? How come they should have a bigger house than you do or bigger car than you do?

Obama: Doctors Choose Amputation Because Surgeons Get Paid More Than Physicians

"How come somebody should have more money just because they are capitalizing on the sick and misery that you've experienced? You know how these doctors are! They'll amputate a leg when they don't have to just for the extra 30 grand, or they'll pull a tooth or they'll do whatever." Obama has already said that. So how big a stretch is it for Obama to say, "You know, it's just not moral. It's never been right that people should get wealthy simply by treating the sick.

"That's something ought to happen for nothing, out of the goodness of people's hearts."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: deathcare; hillarycare; nothealthcare; obamacare; romney; romneycare; romneycare4all; romneycare4ever

1 posted on 07/17/2012 5:30:51 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
Thank you for posting this, Kaslin.

Let us NEVER FORGET where ObamaCARE originated,
the very moment that DEATH PANELS and socialized medicine
entered the American way of life to destroy it.


2 posted on 07/17/2012 5:35:40 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Kaslin

There will be a bull market for offshore medical clinics, likely in the Caribbean, short plane ride from Florida.

That’s where wealthy Americans (and a lot of desperate middle class Americans too) will go.

If I was a young doctor, I would be working hard on this plan. Find a country that will give you the best deal on setting up a clinic. You’ll see Mayo, Johns Hopkins, etc doing this.


3 posted on 07/17/2012 5:36:37 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Kaslin

I can see the argument coming on how Medicare is expensive, because of overpaid doctors, sure.


4 posted on 07/17/2012 5:43:33 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Diogenesis

You are such a shill for Obama that it is a public joke

A bad freerePUBLIC joke


5 posted on 07/17/2012 5:55:08 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: Kaslin

Nearly 200,000 of the nation’s top 1-percent are doctors. Except for lawyers working for security, commodity brokerage and investment companies, office-based physicians (i.e., largely those who own their own practices) have the highest odds of any occupational group of being in the top 1 percent. http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/newsgraphics/2012/0115-one-percent-occupations/index.html?ref=business

So yeah, it’s probably only a matter of time before the Obama administration aims its guns directly at doctors.


6 posted on 07/17/2012 5:55:08 PM PDT by DrC
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To: Jonty30
I can see the argument coming on how Medicare is expensive, because of overpaid doctors, sure.

I know nothing about my Doctor's financial situation. But I do know:

I don't want to make him seem like an ogre. He's not. He's just very frustrated with what has happened to medicine over the last ten years.

And yes, he's thinking about retiring because of the nobamacare mess.

At my last visit he said, "All I want to do is care for and heal people. Why can't the government get out of my way?"

7 posted on 07/17/2012 5:59:50 PM PDT by upchuck ("Definition of 'racist:' someone that is winning an argument with a liberal." ~ Peter Brimelow)
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To: bill1952

8 posted on 07/17/2012 6:01:46 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Kaslin

A friend of mine is an orthopedist.....his practice no longer accepts medicaid and after health care from hell is passed I doubt they will accept medicare.....reason being- poor reimbursement.........they will be reducing hip and knee replacement surgery reimbursement by 29% this fall and cutting reimbursements to all docs across the board by 12% in January ......his speciality is hip and knee surgery.......and his outcomes are hard to beat but RNs make more money than he does.....


9 posted on 07/17/2012 6:14:13 PM PDT by Kimmers (Fair isn't everybody getting the same thing, fair is getting what you need to be successful)
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To: nascarnation

Or put hospital ships in international waters off America’s coasts.


10 posted on 07/17/2012 6:32:16 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Kaslin

The Maoist revolution in China rounded up most of the doctors and executed them or imprisoned the really good ones for use when needed by party members.


11 posted on 07/17/2012 7:00:26 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Jonty30
I can see the argument coming on how Medicare is expensive, because of overpaid doctors, sure.

Before retiring 4-5 yrs ago, I was reimbursed (paid), in my private practice, only one-third of my normal rate. But, because I gave Medicaid patients full service, I was inundated with Medicaid patients. Despite their abundant numbers, their reimbursement handled only the fixed costs of my practice.

12 posted on 07/17/2012 7:10:02 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: Kimmers; upchuck
Yeah, well for thirty years (1970-2000) Medicare paid doctors (especially procedural specialists and surgeons) very, very well indeed.

They were delighted to slurp contentedly at the federal trough.

Now that reimbursements are being cut back, they're all undergoing sudden and unexpected conversions to free marketeers......

13 posted on 07/17/2012 7:16:56 PM PDT by Notary Sojac (Ut veniant omnes)
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To: Kaslin
Remember why Marko Ramius defected in Hunt for Red October?

That is where we are headed.

14 posted on 07/17/2012 7:17:11 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Rudder

I trust that is true. I can believe it when a doctor says he’s barely making it, when he’s only pulling in $300 grand, because you have expenses like your student loans or building, nursing assistants, etc.

But that probably would stop Obama from playing class politics.


15 posted on 07/17/2012 7:17:17 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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16 posted on 07/17/2012 7:18:56 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: bill1952; Diogenesis

He’s got to be paid quite a bit to vomit his crap all over the amount of threads that he has these days. It’s a full time job being an Obama apologist.


17 posted on 07/17/2012 7:22:07 PM PDT by MissouriConservative (Voting Anyone but Obama in 2012.)
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To: Kimmers

Average W-2 income for an orthopedist in America is about 500k.


18 posted on 07/17/2012 7:51:11 PM PDT by Taliesan
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To: Notary Sojac

Really. So that’s what I’ve been doing. Slurping at the Medicare trough. That’s interesting because Medicare does not pay enough to make seeing Medicare patients worthwhile. The rest of the insured patients have to make up the difference to keep hospitals in business. When I discharge a Medicare patient from the hospital, I cannot find a pcp in the community taking new Medicare patients—they can’t afford to. I recover about 1/3 of what I bill across the board. Why don’t you tell me how you would like it if your employer suddenly told you they will only pay you 30% of what you are entitled to?

In addition, I work my butt off for every dollar I get from Medicare. Why don’t you save your scorn for the 50% of the country that slurps from the public trough without paying anything. Oh, and then I get to pay tax on the severely discounted “income” I get from Medicare. A deal at twice the price! You are right. Medicare has put me on easy street!


19 posted on 07/17/2012 8:04:21 PM PDT by Mom MD (T he country needs Obamacare like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask)
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To: blackdog

The PRC managed to warehouse professional groups until needed. Once Nixon broke the ice, business types came running out of the woodwork.


20 posted on 07/17/2012 8:23:21 PM PDT by oyez ( .Apparently The U.S. CONSTITUTION has been reduced to the consistency of quicksand.)
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To: blackdog

Or simply watch Dr. Zhivago. The prognosis for us docs, and nurses like my wife, is not promising. We have no illusions about what’s in store. We may simply get while the getting’s good, and are already looking into it.

Of course, the overpaid lawyers - who don’t accept insurance, and are not told how to practice by the Feds the way docs are - can charge whatever they can get away with, and Obama probably thinks that’s an acceptable way to cash in on the suffering of others.

Then again when someone really needs an attorney, they will usually pay whatever they need to somehow. And when someone really needs a doctor, the vast, entitled majority of the population usually expect someone else should have to pay for whatever they want somehow.


21 posted on 07/17/2012 8:34:14 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Diogenesis

Thanks! Just made a donation to Romney.


22 posted on 07/17/2012 9:46:19 PM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: Kaslin

We are looking at a three step process.

(1) History’s finest collection of medical experts - American doctors - will retire, emigrate, seek new employment, or grudgingly accept the new reality.

(2) Doctors will be coerced to unionize. Salaries will decline, quite dramatically, but benefits like time off, early retirement, and malpractice exemptions will flourish.

(3) A sudden “doctor shortage” will require that we import thousands of new foreign M.D.’s every year.


23 posted on 07/17/2012 9:50:42 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: upchuck
A doctor must have good grades, if not great grades in high school to get into a good college. -Hard work

A doctor must then have good grades, if not great for 4 years in college to get into a good medical school.-Hard work

After 4 years of regular med school, if he specializes it could be a couple of more years.-Hard work

Then comes residency. Long, brutal hours, for little pay.-Hard work

My Orthopedic spent 16 years in school and residency before private practice.

College and med school can now be up to $350-$450K

The average doctor earns about $200k a year.

My Ortho has 5 people on staff. Those are 5 people who get paod and get benefits and have taxes paid BEFORE the doctor does.

About 1/4 of earnings goes to malpractice insurance.

A doctor has to carry malpractice insurance for 7 years AFTER he retires.

24 posted on 07/18/2012 2:05:39 AM PDT by mountn man (Happiness is not a destination, its a way of life.)
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To: Taliesan
How much did med school cost?

How many years did he go to school BEFORE he finally STARTED to earn any money?

How much education does he have to get every year just to keep up with the latest techniques?

How much does med malpractice insurance cost? (He has to keep paying that 7 years AFTER he retires).

When YOU need a knee replacement, who do you want operating on you (or a loved one) A doctor who graduated from Bangledesh school of medicine or Johns Hopkins?

25 posted on 07/18/2012 2:19:45 AM PDT by mountn man (Happiness is not a destination, its a way of life.)
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To: bill1952; Diogenesis
You are such a shill for Obama that it is a public joke A bad freerePUBLIC joke

He has a legitimate point. Obama would not dare attack doctors openly, as Rush is suggesting he's about to, if the opponent were a rockribbed conservative who could fire back and make it a new issue.

Romney's necessary silence on Romneycare frees up Obama tactically, to pull all sorts of welfarist moves.

26 posted on 07/18/2012 2:58:59 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: upchuck

After two decades of living mostly overseas....I finally came back to the US in 2010, and ended up with a local doctor on my health insurance “network” (he accepted their insurance fee situation).

I arrived to find this cheaply decorated office with mostly furniture that he’d picked up from garage sales (wooden dining room chairs in the waiting room), with 1965 lamps, and pictures that you’d remember from Uncle Karl’s 1972 living room. The carpet was in marginal shape and should have been replaced seven years ago.

The staff? Well....they weren’t that bright and had various forms that indicated they wanted your social security number (at least three different forms). I just sat there and kept thinking that older folks would volunteer this....but not me.

The nurse? Well...she didn’t do a blood pressure check or temp reading. I’m not even sure that she was a registered nurse.

So the doc comes in, and he spent almost fifteen minutes filling out history, then doing a brief check. After small talk....and my questions....he kinda admits that half his customers are Medicare folks and he hasn’t really turned a significant profit since 2005. He still does ok, but with competition in the local area....he just can’t attract the right base of folks.

Two months later when I had a real reason to return...the office wouldn’t let me check in unless I wrote a check for $235 (the fee from the first visit). My insurance company had yet to pay them....eight weeks later.

Yeah, there are various pieces and parts of the US health system which are broke. I kinda think the system started declining once we created Medicare, and it’s bound to double up on problems as we move forward. We may all be flying into Costa Rica for real health care in five years.


27 posted on 07/18/2012 4:20:05 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Mom MD

I guess you missed the dates “1970-2000” in my post. I remember very well when Medicare paid “usual and customary” and docs welcomed as many Medicare patients as they could get. Very few were complaining about “socialized medicine” during those years.


28 posted on 07/18/2012 6:51:42 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Ut veniant omnes)
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To: Notary Sojac

Maybe he started after 2000-The older docs who “cashed in are often semi-retired now or have side businesses (unless they are paying for multiple divorces or poor business deals in the past), while the young doctors are looking at a bleak future. Many young docs I know are just trying to pay off debt as fast as possible so they can survive in the future.


29 posted on 07/18/2012 8:03:57 AM PDT by rmichaelj
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To: Taliesan

It depends on the group you are looking at...those that specialize in adult reconstructive do not see those numbers....


30 posted on 07/18/2012 9:32:09 AM PDT by Kimmers (Fair isn't everybody getting the same thing, fair is getting what you need to be successful)
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To: Notary Sojac

You are right Medicare reimbursements were good and I am not disagreeing with you statements ......but now medicare and medicaid does not even cover the cost of procedures......woman pay more to have their manicures than medicare pays to cover an office visit...


31 posted on 07/18/2012 9:36:55 AM PDT by Kimmers (Fair isn't everybody getting the same thing, fair is getting what you need to be successful)
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To: Notary Sojac

Maybe he started after 2000-The older docs who “cashed in are often semi-retired now or have side businesses (unless they are paying for multiple divorces or poor business deals in the past), while the young doctors are looking at a bleak future. Many young docs I know are just trying to pay off debt as fast as possible so they can survive in the future.


32 posted on 07/18/2012 1:14:11 PM PDT by rmichaelj
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