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Arpaio press conference: Evidence of fraud. No refute from the Obama White House.
http://www.freerepublic.com ^ | 7/17/2012 | dragnet2

Posted on 07/17/2012 11:06:27 PM PDT by dragnet2

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To: tsowellfan
How is it that the White House would have allowed that PDF file go public with it being so obvious that it's a fake?

The public would have accepted even a worse document. It's not obvious that the document is a fake. The forgers were not professionals, and they couldn't think that someone else would be smarter than them.

Are they not technologically savvy enough to know whether all tracks have been covered before posting that?

It's not just a matter of technology, it's (now) a matter of history and of social interactions. If some JBTs show up at a house of a 90 year old retiree what can they ask? "Does this BC looks like a fraud to you?" They don't even have the right question to ask. The same applies to layers. They could walk into a printer shop, but they didn't know what to ask other than "do you see anything suspicious in this here true copy of a HI BC?" That would have required a messy cleanup after the question is asked.

And the person who created it. Was this his way of doing the job he was getting paid for but figured if he kept it in layers and did not put it together in a jpg he was covered and it would not be considered "forgery" since the layers are separate?

It was a sloppy job all around, done by a Photoshop user who had only a general idea of what he is doing. The little details of inner workings of the software were all mystery to the forger. The administration is full of 3rd rate people. The admission criteria are not what you think they should be. Besides, on what level of confidence, how close to The Body this person has to be to be trusted with such a job? If I were in Obama's shoes I would have only two candidates who I could trust without reservation, and that would be myself or my wife. Nobody else. Nobody else with half a brain would even sign up to do this job, lest they want to end up suddenly dead from natural causes.

The most important reason, though, why they didn't try harder is because they didn't expect a popular revolt. Every person of importance in the party, and in the Congress, had to be either aware or blind. They didn't care much either, as long as they have a suitable sock puppet with the required albedo. In essence, The People were ignored - "those commoners and peasants don't matter." Judges repeatedly ruled that voters "have no standing" to challenge the rights of modern patricians.

21 posted on 07/17/2012 11:51:59 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: tsowellfan
hehe! Who is that man?

It's got to be a typical Republican congressman.

22 posted on 07/17/2012 11:54:10 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: dragnet2

Did you hear the hostile questions from the press posed to Arpaio and the detective who gave the presentation? If only they could be that hostile with Obama.


23 posted on 07/17/2012 11:56:13 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Greysard
Thanks for the reply! Great answers to my questions. I agree that it had to be somebody they could trust if they didn't try to do it themselves. Perhaps the admitted American terrorist friend of Obama had some sort of connection to this.

Also, I got another reply which also seems possible.

When I do graphic art design for someone, I send them everything in PDF form so any text, graphic or background color can be modified easily. My guess is that the “artist” sent the file to be approved and the receiving party, not knowing anything about layers, approved it and ran with it.

26 posted on 07/17/2012 11:59:29 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: Casie
“When I do graphic art design for someone, I send them everything in PDF form so any text, graphic or background color can be modified easily. My guess is that the “artist” sent the file to be approved and the receiving party, not knowing anything about layers, approved it and ran with it.”

I agree. Great theory of why the form was not finished correctly... I've had several statewide pdf forms go from draft to final and posted online without being finalized by me.

27 posted on 07/18/2012 12:01:58 AM PDT by TauntedTiger (Keep away from the fence!)
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To: dragnet2

“No refute from the Obama White House.”

Not YET.

Either they are going for a surprise, or they were caught flat-footed.

I think it was the latter. Normally, they have something prepared.

They didn’t this time.

From what I’ve seen, the evidence is compelling. How do you spin that the lady who signed the certificate is a liar? lol

Not to mention the fact that in Hawaii, as long as the parents live there, they will be able to obtain a valid birth certificate no matter where the baby was born.

And, the twins born after him have a higher birth number than he does.

I could go on, and on. But, I won’t.

I’ll just sit back and watch the fallout.

BTW, I’ve never been a birther, and don’t think this will go anywhere in Congress, but at least we have new ammo!


28 posted on 07/18/2012 12:07:24 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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To: Cobra64

I agree. It does matter.

We cannot pick and choose which parts of the Constitution matter and which parts do not. If we allow this to happen (and the republican controlled Congress is doing just that) who’s to say the pResident will not push the envelope and sign an EO banning all handguns? I mean, why is that more important than anything else in the Constitution?

A very slippery slop and I fear we are already at a velocity that’s too high to save us from going all the way down.

John Boehner needs to go. Sadly, Obama has been allowed to do more damage under this House than he did under Pelosi. And that’s very telling. There’s such a pile on Boehner’s desk now that it would take decades to go through it.

“Repeal Speaker John Boehner” needs to be a required campaign promise from any conservative running for Congress in 2012. Otherwise, nothing will get done. We gain nothing.


29 posted on 07/18/2012 12:08:59 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: DesertRhino

That is exactly what the press did at the conference, and pubbies will mimic. The DC testicle shortage continues.


30 posted on 07/18/2012 12:10:18 AM PDT by HerrBlucher ("The cross opens its arms to the four winds; it is a signpost for free travelers." GK Chesterton)
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To: Republican1795.

facebook already has blocked it.


31 posted on 07/18/2012 12:10:37 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: dixiechick2000

We are all birthers now.


32 posted on 07/18/2012 12:13:32 AM PDT by HerrBlucher ("The cross opens its arms to the four winds; it is a signpost for free travelers." GK Chesterton)
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To: Cobra64

GOP, because just one DNC isn’t enough.


33 posted on 07/18/2012 12:13:57 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Cobra64

LOL! Perfect.


34 posted on 07/18/2012 12:16:50 AM PDT by HerrBlucher ("The cross opens its arms to the four winds; it is a signpost for free travelers." GK Chesterton)
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To: F15Eagle

I want Lt. Col. Lakin to be vindicated.


35 posted on 07/18/2012 12:17:25 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: dragnet2

What I don’t understand is Ms. Lee says she signed the BC. Is Zullo saying it’s fraudulent because of the codes and that anyone can get a BC? Or is he saying it IS obama’s BC?


36 posted on 07/18/2012 12:18:05 AM PDT by Terry Mross ( To kin and former friends: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: TauntedTiger

Something I did not get from Sheriff Joe’s conference was anything about the forger. What I mean is, The Globe and what was written about a person of interest.

I remember hearing them mentioned at the news conference something about a person of interest but they didn’t say why.


38 posted on 07/18/2012 12:19:32 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: Terry Mross

He said her signature may have been pulled from another document from around the same time and cropped into forged document.


40 posted on 07/18/2012 12:24:15 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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