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Students sue school district for violating their 'right to read'
Jewish World Review ^ | 7/18/2012 | Stacy Teicher Khadaroo

Posted on 07/18/2012 5:19:03 AM PDT by Former Fetus

Students are suing the state of Michigan and their Detroit-area school district for violating their "right to read."

The class-action lawsuit appears to be the first of its kind, and potentially signals a new wave of civil rights litigation in the United States to enforce laws intended to boost academic achievement, education law experts say.

The American Civil Liberties Union of Michigan filed what it has dubbed the "right to read" lawsuit on behalf of the nearly 1,000 students in the impoverished district.

(Excerpt) Read more at jewishworldreview.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: lawsuit; reading
For a fraction of a second I though "this is a novel idea". But, as I read further, I started asking myself some questions.

Two-thirds of 4th-graders and three-quarters of 7th-graders [...]not proficient on state reading tests

Why did it take until 4th and 7th grade to get concerned? I know both my children were reading at above grade level at the beginning of 1st grade! Where are those students' parents?

Nearly 100 percent of the district's students are African-American

I reckon that's the answer to my previous question

1 posted on 07/18/2012 5:19:12 AM PDT by Former Fetus
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To: Former Fetus

I’ve been on a forum that has been discussing this...let me just say generational poverty, drugs, gangs, crime, and war zone.


2 posted on 07/18/2012 5:26:09 AM PDT by she geek
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To: Former Fetus

Another variation of the lawsuit lottery, the only hope Eric Holder’s people have of ever earning anything.


3 posted on 07/18/2012 5:26:58 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: Former Fetus

I heard this story on CNN at lunch time yesterday; the woman they interviewed was saying that being able to read was a right guaranteed to us in the Constitution.


4 posted on 07/18/2012 5:34:33 AM PDT by NRA1995 (I'll cling to my religion, cigars and guns till they're pried from my cold dead fingers!)
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
They should sue the union for teaching marxist ideology over the 3 Rs.

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5 posted on 07/18/2012 5:34:33 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Former Fetus

We demand the right to read but we’ll take cash instead if it’s available.


6 posted on 07/18/2012 5:45:14 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: Former Fetus

I am not shocked at all with these findings. I used to teach HS at an inner-city charter school - I now teach at a private HS. I see and hear what these kids think about education. Parents of these kids are nonexistent, these kids are the adults in most of the households - after school they are watching younger sibs while some of their parents are out smoking crack and weed. I witnessed EOC (end of course) exams, which our state uses to measure preformance, where students were just filling out the scan-trons in a pattern. Of course teachers get blamed for not teaching, but it is the student who wants to remain on the government eltitement listing.

I kid you not when I tell you this. On day one, as we were going through our syllabus, I’d have kids say things like “you do too much”, “i ain’t doing all this”. And then the best one ever, “i get rent paid on the first, food stamps on the 8th and the 25th, what are going gonna do for me?” to which my response was “I am going to kick your hind end in this class and make you proud of your work”. By the second week of class I had started to see changes in some.

Believe it our not about 40% of these kids are itching to get out and make something for themselves. I know that one day I will call one of my former students doctor - I can’t wait, I will be so proud of her - she is so proper and driven - when you meet her parents you wonder where she gets it from because they are the epitome of ghetto. Two of my favorites are heading to Mizzou - with my oldest - to study engineering. Another handful are starting culinary school this fall. Another is staring MSU to study pyschology. I have a few who are going to Chicago Art Institute and St. Louis Art Institute. There are some good seeds out there - true diamonds in the rough. In a way I feel like I have let the remaining students down by leaving that school, but I have to watch out for myself sometimes.


7 posted on 07/18/2012 5:46:03 AM PDT by Cyclone59 (Obama is like Ron Burgundy - he will read ANYTHING that is on the teleprompter)
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To: Former Fetus
Highland Park's two K-8 schools and one high school have recently come under the jurisdiction of an emergency manager appointed by the state to address the district's $11 million deficit. The state's most recent plan is to find a charter-school operator to run the district.

Probably the kid’s best hope is to privatize the schools. But of course that would never happen. The teacher’s union will never permit the loss of the teacher’s cushy no accountability jobs.

There have been many legal cases arguing that states have not adequately funded certain schools or districts, or that students' constitutional rights have been violated by being in de facto segregated schools. But this case takes a new approach by focusing narrowly on the core skill of literacy and a state law that addresses it.

Sure it is always the fault of the Evil White Man!

NO it couldn’t be rampant corruption in the school’s administration.

NO it couldn’t be incompetent and unaccountable teachers.

NO it couldn’t be the predominant Black culture that disrespects education and ostracizes those that speak intelligently, study hard and seek to achieve academically.

NO it has to be the Evil White Man because that is what the “Black Leaders” tell us and it gets the Black society off the hook of having to own their own problems.

8 posted on 07/18/2012 5:46:43 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Former Fetus

I am no friend of teacher’s unions and whatever bad that happens to them is probably too good for them, BUT...

How, EXACTLY, did the teachers STOP these kids from learning to read? I mean, I agree you have a right to learn (though it isn’t in the Constitution - if she could read, she could see that herself), but how in this lawsuit are they going to convince twelve jurors that the teacher’s union STOPPED them from learning to read?

I mean, did they ban all books from their homes? Did they refuse to allow these kids access to the library? Did they threaten their parents to ensure that they did not teach their kids reading skills?

What is that old saying, “Just because you hear doesn’t mean you were listening!” That is the same situation here; just because I teach doesn’t mean you were learning. In both situations, it takes ACTIVE participation of BOTH parties!

This is the epitome of FRIVOLOUS LAWSUIT!


9 posted on 07/18/2012 5:57:21 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: ExTxMarine

I think I would have taught myself to read even if no one else tried. I was raised in a family of readers and was trying long before I set foot in any school.


10 posted on 07/18/2012 6:05:06 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Pontiac

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2007/05/the_achievement_gap_separating.html

Anti-education mind-set hurts black boys, study says


11 posted on 07/18/2012 6:05:44 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

Thanks for the link


12 posted on 07/18/2012 6:09:49 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: ExTxMarine

HOW DID THEY STOP THE KIDS FROM LEARNING TO READ? Are you serious? They NEVER STARTED teaching the kids to read. They never STARTED correcting mis-spoken language. The NEVER corrected wrong spelling. The NEVER taught proper punctuation.
These kids cannot speak, read, or spell properly. They cannot find their home state on a map of the USA, let along the world. They can’t do simple math in their heads.
(You want to control the country? Gain control of the battery industry)
Their problems are not all the kid’s own fault. The fact is they were NEVER taught in those overpriced “education centers”.


13 posted on 07/18/2012 6:13:23 AM PDT by CaptainAmiigaf ( NY Times: We print the news as it fits our views.)
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To: cripplecreek

All of my four daughters were reading before they went to 1st grade. While in school, all of them read on levels well above their actual grade.

Everyone in my family reads; we all love to read. We will read a book, and recommend it to each other and then it will make the rounds through everyone’s house.

Of course, everyone in my family reads to the kids and grand-kids, everyone encourages the young ones to sound out words, associate pictures with the words and to put it all together. All learning (even the INTEREST in leaning) starts at home. No lawsuit that will ever correct THAT short-coming!


14 posted on 07/18/2012 6:22:05 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: ExTxMarine

My grandmother has a picture of me as a toddler surrounded by books in the dark trying to read.


15 posted on 07/18/2012 6:26:24 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Very true, but what has changed 5 years later? If anything, it seems like every effort to close the so-called “achievement gap” has centered in bringing down the white students to the level of the African-american ones. How sad!


16 posted on 07/18/2012 6:30:28 AM PDT by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: Pontiac
NO it has to be the Evil White Man because that is what the “Black Leaders” tell us and it gets the Black society off the hook of having to own their own problems.

How does that Gangsta Rap song go again?

Don't getta education, that be actin' white, man.
Don't be doin' nothin' to be actin' like the White Man.
Sell some crack, run some hos, you be doin' right, man
If you actin' white, then we gonna fight, man.

17 posted on 07/18/2012 6:31:35 AM PDT by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the far North)
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To: sima_yi
How does that Gangsta Rap song go again?

I wouldn’t know.

Listening to rap makes me hurl dood.

Reading it gives me a headache.

I must have an allergy to rap.

18 posted on 07/18/2012 6:36:24 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: CaptainAmiigaf
Apparently, you didn't read the REST of my posting, so I will repeat it here to help you.

I posted: What is that old saying, “Just because you hear doesn’t mean you were listening!” That is the same situation here; just because I teach doesn’t mean you were learning. In both situations, it takes ACTIVE participation of BOTH parties!

I did not state that it was ALL the kids fault, but they are just as guilty as the teachers. I have sat on many school and PTA boards, volunteered many hours in doing teacher reviews and audits. From my experience, I will state that MOST kids today simply do NOT want to learn. PERIOD!

That is a sad fact, but most are simply not interested because their parent's aren't interested. Most kids will show the most interest in the same things in which their parents or mentors show interest - basic fact. Because of this basic fact, you get a systematic programming made up of GIGO (garbage in, garbage out).

You stated: They NEVER STARTED teaching the kids to read. They never STARTED correcting mis-spoken language. The NEVER corrected wrong spelling. The NEVER taught proper punctuation.

I say that they MAY have attempted to do so, but most parents complained that their children were being mistreated, misunderstood or some other lame excuse for their kids failure to comprehend and comply with proper reading, speaking, spelling and punctuation. If the parents do not support and enforce the teachers efforts, then no matter who or what is up there teaching, the kids are not going to acquire that knowledge.

All the proper knowledge that was attempted to be imparted to the students in a short ninety minute session each (or every other day) can not undo all of the improper knowledge with which the kids were deluged the other 22.5 hours of the day.

As I started my original post, anything bad that happens to a teacher's union is still too good for them, but this particular lawsuit is simply ignorant and pretty much without merit.
19 posted on 07/18/2012 6:39:41 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: ilovesarah2012
I read that blog and it must be nice to get paid to produce such a derivative study.

While all of what is described in the blog about the study is sadly true it has all been identified years ago.

What is even sadder in the blog is the black leaders quoted in the article trying to discount and diminish the conclusions of the study.

20 posted on 07/18/2012 6:40:53 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: ExTxMarine

You have to have at least some knowledge of the subject matter in order to teach it. A few years ago, our local paper published a letter to the editor written by the president of the local teacher’s union. The editor noted above the publication, “printed as received”. (The only time in 15 years I have EVER seen him do that!) Poorly written would not begin to describe it. The letter was filled with spelling and grammar errors but was proudly signed with her name and titles. I expected outrage, but there was none, just a few questioning letters to the editor in response. She is still teaching and I assume no more knowledgeable of the subject matter now than she was then.


21 posted on 07/18/2012 6:58:45 AM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: she geek

When my husband and I were on our honeymoon on a cruise years ago, I wondered why there were so many huge black women on a Royal Carribean cruise. One day while wandering the ship I saw a sign in front of a large meeting room that said something about a Detroit Teachers conference or association or something.


22 posted on 07/18/2012 7:13:19 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: kalee

I have about two years of college - not enough for an actual degree of any sort. I am a safety professional in the construction industry.

I had a college-educated (Oklahoma State) safety coordinator that worked for me a few years back. She had a Bachelors in Occupational Safety. She could not spell, nor write coherent sentences nor punctuate! She even admitted it as much and simply did not see an issue with the fact that she had a college degree, but no writing skills. I explained that in our line of work, where hand written notes concerning accidents and incidents could be a make or break scenario, she simply didn’t understand.

I TRULY could not understand how someone graduated from a major university without basic writing skills!

I agree that there are many poorly educated “educators” out there and that too is a part of the problem. But, in a lawsuit such as this, they are trying to put ALL the blame on the teachers and I simply do not think that will hold water.

It is a bogus argument, working along the lines of the Obama-Bush’s-Fault narrative.


23 posted on 07/18/2012 7:46:08 AM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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To: Cyclone59

You didn’t let anybody down. You did your part and helped a good many of those kids to believe in themselves. You were there when you were meant to be there. I’m sure any school is glad to have you. Thanks for being a teacher who had to be tough enough to show the care you have for your students.


24 posted on 07/18/2012 8:08:18 AM PDT by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: kalee

No more spelling tests at UNC journalism school.

http://www.dailytarheel.com/index.php/article/2012/04/technology_renders_spelling_test_obsolete

“What we’re trying to do is just make the exam more relevant for today’s journalism and mass communication students.”

A spelling checker won’t help you with bear/bare, not/knot, but/butt and all those homophones. Spelling and grammar skills go hand in hand.


25 posted on 07/18/2012 8:20:24 AM PDT by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: Former Fetus
Detroit - where EVERY stupid liberal idea has ruled:

Affirmative action ‘teachers’.

Unions that stop incompetent teachers from being fired.

Teachers that should not be tested.

“Self-esteem’ values taught - the liberal “feel good about yourself for no discernible reason"...

Earth day, global warming, black pseudo history taught rather than reading and writing.

And now the ultimate "It's not our fault we take ZERO responsibility' sue the schools...

26 posted on 07/18/2012 8:41:54 AM PDT by GOPJ (Political correctness is simply George Orwell's Newspeak by a non-threatening name. FR- Bernard Marx)
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To: Former Fetus

To get good at reading — or anything else — takes practice. One reason why kids cannot read nowadays is that they pend more time watching TV or playing video game than they spend reading.


27 posted on 07/18/2012 9:01:51 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (Socon-Econ)
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To: ExTxMarine

I believe I am still right. However you were right BEFORE I was. The key to the failure lies with the parents.
It is the basic job of parents to TEACH their children. Be it manners, behavior, religious tenets, compassion, or numbers and colors, the parents MUST be the first teachers.
It is tragic that in the poorest ASIAN communities, the children excel in the same schools that fail “others”, but the close knit family discipline of Asian families is world known.
Ask about parent/teacher conferences. When my oldest was in the 5th grade I went to “teachers conference” 30 minutes early, so I’d get in and out at the head of the line. The teacher walked in to ONLY 3 parents. She sadly shook her head and sighed, “Always, the parents who don’t have to come are the ONLY ones waiting for me. You three, your children are the reasons I still love my profession.”
The three of us left together, and there was only one parent waiting. There is the key.


28 posted on 07/18/2012 9:03:00 AM PDT by CaptainAmiigaf ( NY Times: We print the news as it fits our views.)
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