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Taos man [perp] shot [6 times] in home robbery; no arrest made
The Taos News ^ | July 17, 2012 | Chandra Johnson

Posted on 07/18/2012 7:43:30 AM PDT by kevcol

Through media collaboration, The Taos News has learned that a 19-year-old man is clinging to life in a Santa Fe hospital after he was shot six times during a robbery Monday morning (July 16).

The Taos County Sheriff's Office failed to return a dozen phone calls from The Taos News about the incident. In addition, no report has been filed and no arrest made in the incident that occurred on Blueberry Hill Road — the same neighborhood where The Taos News reported last week that residents were turned away when asked for an investigation into a series of early morning break-ins over the past year.

According to KRQE News 13, 19-year-old Robert Carpenter was shot six times in the chest and torso area after he returned to the scene of a robbery between 5 and 6 a.m. Carpenter knocked on the door of an undisclosed house and robbed the homeowner at gunpoint, taking $150 worth of marijuana. [The homeowner had a license for medical marijuana.]

But Carpenter then, for unknown reasons, returned to the house and, finding the doors locked and the homeowner unwilling to answer the door, stuck his gun through the home's dog door. The homeowner — whose identity is not being released — then shot Carpenter six times.

Carpenter is currently being treated for his wounds in the ICU ward of St. Vincent Hospital in Santa Fe.

The Taos News published a report in its July 5 edition that residents of Blueberry Hill and the Las Colonias area were angry with the sheriff's office for what they viewed to be a lack of response to a number of break-ins last fall.

Homeowner Carolyn Johnson, whose home was burglarized through forced entry in October, told The Taos News that when residents asked about the lack of response at a homeowner's association meeting, officers from the department told her "This isn't 'CSI,' ma'am."

The Taos County Sheriff's Office has yet to respond to The Taos News' records request about how many homes had been burglarized.


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when residents asked about the lack of response at a homeowner's association meeting, officers from the department told her "This isn't 'CSI,' ma'am."

Q&A with Taos Sheriff Miguel A. Romero Jr, who is running for Magistrate Judge:
Have you run in any previous elections? If so, what was the outcome? Yes. On June 6, 2006, I was elected as the Democratic Nominee for Taos County Sheriff in the primary election. On November 7, 2006 I was elected in the general election as Taos County Sheriff. I served a four year term as Sheriff and decided to run for re-election in 2010. On June 2, 2010, I again was elected as Democratic nominee for Taos County Sheriff in the primary election. I subsequently was re-elected as Taos County Sheriff in the general election on Nov. 2, 2010. I am currently serving my sixth year as sheriff.
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Why are you running for this office? I have always had an interest in assisting the people from the communities of Taos County.

1 posted on 07/18/2012 7:43:41 AM PDT by kevcol
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To: kevcol
Police questioning homeowner: Why did you have to shoot him six times?

Homeowner: Because my revolver only had six chambers.

2 posted on 07/18/2012 7:48:13 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: kevcol

‘Homeowner Carolyn Johnson, whose home was burglarized through forced entry in October, told The Taos News that when residents asked about the lack of response at a homeowner’s association meeting, officers from the department told her “This isn’t ‘CSI,’ ma’am.”’

This is the result of abdicating your responsibilities to a govt hireling. At any rate Johnson mustn’t be aware that the sheriff isn’t beholden to protect her or her property. What a bunch of sheep....


3 posted on 07/18/2012 7:50:08 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: Vigilanteman

I don’t know about everyone here, but six times? Either I’d be at the range practising, or I’d think about getting a gun with a little higher caliber. Something like a 357 magnum, 45 LC, 45ACP, or a .410 revolver with PDX1s in it that will bleed the perp out before EMTs can get to him.


4 posted on 07/18/2012 7:53:32 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Vigilanteman

The perp is still alive after being hit six times - in the CHEST?
Either this perp is tough beyond belief or our hero needs a bigger gun!


5 posted on 07/18/2012 7:54:28 AM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: kevcol

For us non-TV-watchers, the reporter might have taken half a line to explain what CSI is. Typical journalist school graduate, I guess. Or these days, you don’t even need to go to journalism school to learn all the bad habits.

Methinks they need a new sheriff.


6 posted on 07/18/2012 7:56:46 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: kevcol

For us non-TV-watchers, the reporter might have taken half a line to explain what CSI is. Typical journalist school graduate, I guess. Or these days, you don’t even need to go to journalism school to learn all the bad habits.

Methinks they need a new sheriff. Evidently he spends too much time watching TV.


7 posted on 07/18/2012 7:57:41 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Little Ray

I think thug boy stuck his gun through the partially opened door...and then the homeowner shot him through the door. The door slowed the slugs down.


8 posted on 07/18/2012 8:00:32 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Gaffer

Perhaps he was shot through the closed door, explaining the lack of sudden death?


9 posted on 07/18/2012 8:00:57 AM PDT by LaRueLaDue
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To: Gaffer

My thought exactly. Homeowner probably used a BB gun.


10 posted on 07/18/2012 8:02:37 AM PDT by GoldenPup (Comrade "O" has got to GO!!)
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To: Gaffer

I don’t pretend to know the entire story, but I think it reads that the perp stuck his gun through the pet door, so the defender was on one side of the door, and the perp on the other. Pumping all of his rounds through the door not knowing exactly the where the target is seems like a perfectly sane thing to do after seeing a gun pointed into your home.


11 posted on 07/18/2012 8:06:58 AM PDT by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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To: kevcol
Here is the current update :

Taos County Sheriff's Office reports shooting following intrusion

Carpenter is a known local drug addict.


12 posted on 07/18/2012 8:07:53 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: GoldenPup

I gave my daughter a stun gun when she first got married. It was really expensive ($600) and held a lot of damned batteries. Replaceable wire/prong packs, backup contact probes, the works.

I told her if she ever had to use it, to keep zapping the perp until he quit shaking, and then to get the spare batteries I gave her and do it all over. Keep zapping until moving stops. Hell, if I could have afforded it, I’d have bought a portable defibrillator, but would have told her to grease up the sucker’s ears and defibrillate his head....nothing like 400 joules of energy to set the thinking straight...

[I recently signed her up for firearms classes and will give her one of my weapons when she graduates]


13 posted on 07/18/2012 8:11:40 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Cicero

CSI is well known in the gun community as a cop show in which the “9MM Asperly Aimless” is the featured weapon. The weapon neither needs to be aimed no does it exhibit even the slightest indication of recoil when fired.


14 posted on 07/18/2012 8:11:40 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: Gaffer
6 for 6 and your complaining? Through a door, no less.

As soon as the shooter is ID'd, I am sending him/her a Trayvon (copyright) Hoodie. Shooter of the Week!

The cops should shoot so well. How many times do I read of cop gun fights with hundreds of rounds fired ... and no perp casualties?

15 posted on 07/18/2012 8:12:59 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and FU Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: Kenny Bunk

Okay....good shot he was. What was the caliber?


16 posted on 07/18/2012 8:14:32 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: kevcol

If you want your crimes to be solved in 60 minutes or less, move to Miami.

17 posted on 07/18/2012 8:16:21 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: lormand

Oh....I fully accept accounts now of his accuracy.....I’m just disappointed that the ammunition didn’t hold up through the door. The perp should not have been breathing when EMTs arrived.


18 posted on 07/18/2012 8:16:55 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

A once popular six-shooter of modern times was the Ruger Security Six in .38 caliber.

Exterior doors are usually sturdier than interior doors.

I suppose some here would have shot the gun out of the robber’s hand?


19 posted on 07/18/2012 8:22:45 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: Gaffer

I have read similar comments about the guy in the Internet Cafe shooting. Here the guy fired .38 rounds into the perps, each of whom suffered wounds which resulted in them being caught. Had he fired .45 or similar rounds, the people behind him may have been hit too, or he may have missed entirely due to recoil of a bigger gun. Lots of ‘what ifs’ to consider.


20 posted on 07/18/2012 8:23:45 AM PDT by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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To: Gaffer
Handloaded 454 Casull, with a 7.5" barrel.

Oh wait, that's my gun. Of course the perps rarely get past the Claymores lining the garden path from the alligator-moat.

Dude, who frickin' cares? For homebodies, hittin' the perp is far more important than fashionable big bores and hot rounds. A double-tap from your trusty .32 is way better than a miss from your .44 Magnum, plus the .44 miss is liable to go through the wall and kill the neighbor's pooch..

Good ladies gun? 32 H&R Mag, or 327 Mag. Manageable recoil encourages target practice. BTW, how did the perp know the homeowner was a medical marijuana user? Get me Miss Marple. More here than meets the eye.

BTW, Taos ain't had a good sheriff since Elfego Baca died. He was a Republican. This Romero sounds like your typical affirmmative action nincompoop anchor baby LEO that now infests La Zona de Tolerancia aka the border states.

21 posted on 07/18/2012 8:29:47 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and FU Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
"Medical Marijuana User" = Small Time Neighborhood Dealer?
22 posted on 07/18/2012 8:33:21 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and FU Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: Kenny Bunk
Taos ain't had a good sheriff since Elfego Baca died. He was a Republican.

Close; but no cigar.

Baca lived in Southern New Mexico.


23 posted on 07/18/2012 8:37:11 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Kenny Bunk
"Medical Marijuana User" = Small Time Neighborhood Dealer?

Not sure; but the word got out somehow.

24 posted on 07/18/2012 8:39:40 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
Baca lived in Southern New Mexico.

Well, he should have lived in Taos.

25 posted on 07/18/2012 8:49:16 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and FU Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: Kenny Bunk

I don’t think he deserves a hoodie. If he’d put the thug down, trayvoned him, I’d agree.


26 posted on 07/18/2012 8:52:01 AM PDT by meatloaf (Support Senate S 1863 & House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

Ok, ok....but if we’re talking punch-through...I’ve got some 30’06 black tips that will punch through a telephone pole.

Guy was a good shot apparently and should be congratulated. I just know from experience about doors, furniture (2” soaked/treated Cargo Furniture) that some rounds will penetrate better than others, that’s all. I agree a wounded perp is better than none at all.....I’m just sorry about the wasted energy of keeping him alive.

I also agree about the marijuana...something funny here.


27 posted on 07/18/2012 8:56:45 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: meatloaf
I don’t think he deserves a hoodie.

Perhaps you're right. What do you think of a smaller prize, like an Obama Tee Shirt? They're cheaper, too!

28 posted on 07/18/2012 8:57:08 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and FU Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: MrEdd
"...and then the homeowner shot him through the door. The door slowed the slugs down."

With any luck this will result in a nice long slow painful death, or at least lifelong paralysis

Congradulations to the homeowner on nipping another aspiring criminal career in the bud.

Media: "Why did you shoot him 6 times?"
Homeowner: "Because that's all I had"

29 posted on 07/18/2012 8:58:13 AM PDT by Mr. K (fat-fingers+small laptop keyboard+bad eyesight=many typos)
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To: meatloaf

There’s still Hope the perp’s status could Change...


30 posted on 07/18/2012 8:59:17 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1274 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: Gaffer
I'm with you - if this guy was being violently robbed AND had to shoot the perp 6 times - AND didn't kill him - he needs serious time at the range practicing...
31 posted on 07/18/2012 9:01:16 AM PDT by GOPJ (Political correctness is simply George Orwell's Newspeak by a non-threatening name. FR- Bernard Marx)
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To: Kenny Bunk
This Romero sounds like your typical affirmmative action nincompoop anchor baby LEO that now infests La Zona de Tolerancia aka the border states.

What if the Sheriff's family has lived
here for over four hundred years ?

OBTW for those in the liberal NorthEast
A Sheriff is an elected official.
It’s the oldest constitutional office in a state.


32 posted on 07/18/2012 9:13:47 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Kenny Bunk

I wouldn’t take the chance of insulting the man like that.


33 posted on 07/18/2012 9:18:31 AM PDT by meatloaf (Support Senate S 1863 & House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: kevcol

When the citizenry can’t depend on the criminal justice system to take care of the problem they’ll just take care of business themselves.

Sheriff will probably be looking for a job during the next election.

The perp more than likely won’t be a recidivist if he survives and absolutely not a recidivist if he passes away.

The local crime rate will probably drop steeply now. I see more local Taos residents purchasing firearms. Whether it is Obama or the local thug, they both motivate the law-abiding to become armed.


34 posted on 07/18/2012 9:26:18 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine; kevcol
Sheriff will probably be looking for a job during the next election.,

The Sheriff did exactly what I expected him to do.

No charges against the homeowner protecting his property.
The Perp will be charged, if he lives.

Chandra is the AA.

Unless there is a written statement,
she always gets the story wrong.


35 posted on 07/18/2012 9:38:26 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

You really think that inept and ineffectual sheriff will get re-elected?


36 posted on 07/18/2012 9:48:01 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
You really think that inept and ineffectual sheriff will get re-elected?

Why do think this ?

Based on inaccurate reporting ?


37 posted on 07/18/2012 9:49:59 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Vigilanteman

Five wasn’t enough and seven would have been too much.


38 posted on 07/18/2012 9:50:27 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: kevcol

From another article it noted that the perp stole $150 and *medical marijuana* from the homeowner, who is licensed to have it.


39 posted on 07/18/2012 9:51:01 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

“...the same neighborhood where The Taos News reported last week that residents were turned away when asked for an investigation into a series of early morning break-ins over the past year.”

If there is any truth to this the sheriff will be looking for a new job.


40 posted on 07/18/2012 10:14:02 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

He *IS* looking for a new job — as judge. As *JUDGE*? I don’t think I’d vote for him.


41 posted on 07/18/2012 10:38:55 AM PDT by oldfart (Obama nation = abomination. Think about it!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
“...the same neighborhood where The Taos News reported last week that residents were turned away when asked for an investigation into a series of early morning break-ins over the past year.”

If there is any truth to this the sheriff will be looking for a new job.

The story is inaccurate on it's face;
none of this happened on or near Blueberry Hill Road.
It occurred in Lower Colinas or Upper Colinas.

Lower Colinas is mostly double wides and single wides.

I have lived in the county for two years
and monitor with a police scanner.

Carolyn Johnson was most likely told to buy a gun.

There are a lot of very PROGRESSIVE Anglos here in Taos county.

The demographics are 60% Hispanic 30% Anglo 10% Native.
Most of the Hispanic families go back hundreds of years.

90% of the Anglos are PROGRESSIVES.

What kind of Anglo would be named Chandra ?


42 posted on 07/18/2012 10:42:36 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Gaffer
From the article references in post 12:

"At that point, the owner discharged a high-powered rifle through the steel door, striking the intruder six times in the lower extremities."

"High-powered rifle" is an elderly term for a non-rimfire, non-pistol cartridge firing rifle. It could be anything from a .223 to a .45-70. Based on the fact that he ate six rounds and lives I suspect it was a .223.

Somebody needs to get a Garand. Mutants go down and stay down when John Garand talks to them.

43 posted on 07/18/2012 12:12:32 PM PDT by jboot
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To: Gaffer
M2 blacktip is fun stuff, but it has limits. It was designed to penetrate 20mm of face-hardened steel armor. It does this by shedding most of its mass: generally only a small fragment of the projectile enters the armored target. Damage was expected to result primarily from armor fragments spraying from the hit. It also isn't that much better at breaking engine blocks than straight M2 ball.

That said, it will munch steel entry doors, automobile doors and class III boday armor like popcorn. And mutants rarely have any sort of armor. Supposedly class IV soft body armor with a ceramic trauma plate can defeat it, so the goobermint ninjas could still be an issue. If ninjas are a likely threat it might be time to upgrade to .338 Lapua.

44 posted on 07/18/2012 12:30:32 PM PDT by jboot
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To: Jack Hydrazine
.the same neighborhood where The Taos News reported last week that residents were turned away when asked for an investigation into a series of early morning break-ins over the past year.”

What are the chances that Chandra Johnson
is the evil spawn of Carolyn Johnson ?

45 posted on 07/18/2012 12:34:37 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

How many Johnsons, Smiths and Jones are there in the US?


46 posted on 07/18/2012 12:41:54 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
What if the Sheriff's family has lived here for over four hundred years ?

The Romero family goes back to the conquistadors. Romero is my cousin, although we have disagreements on politics, he is still a good sheriff, and supports CCW.

47 posted on 07/18/2012 12:51:45 PM PDT by Wizdum (My job is to get you to shoot soda out your nose)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
How many Johnsons, Smiths and Jones are there in the US?

I don't know what you are talking about
but I'm talking about Taos county.

I find 80 in the Taos county phone book.

You seem to be off topic.


48 posted on 07/18/2012 12:54:05 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Wizdum
U-2012>What if the Sheriff's family has lived here for over four hundred years ?

The Romero family goes back to the conquistadors. Romero is my cousin, although we have disagreements on politics, he is still a good sheriff, and supports CCW.

Yes, I know !

So does the Under-Sheriff.


49 posted on 07/18/2012 12:59:26 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

You just proved my point. There are 80 listed Johnsons alone not including those unlisted. You’ll be digging a while to find an familial connection.


50 posted on 07/18/2012 1:11:16 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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