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Sheriff Joe Arpaio: Obama's birth certificate is fraudulent
LA Times ^ | July 18, 2012 | Michael Muskal

Posted on 07/18/2012 3:58:36 PM PDT by ckilmer

Arizona's Sheriff Joe Arpaio says that volunteer investigators working for him have concluded that President Obama’s birth certificate is not legitimate.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: California
KEYWORDS: arpaio; birthcertificate; fraud; obama

1 posted on 07/18/2012 3:58:52 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer

The issue of whether or not the BC was electronically generated is a technical one that the LATimes doesn’t bother to explain or refute.

Like any technical issue, the facts once presented should be easily verifiable or refutable by others looking at the same evidence. But the Times would have to present it first.

They prefer to present the opinion of someone who hasn’t seen the evidence and then proceed to ridicule. That kind of thing, in place of dispelling doubt, just makes me all the more suspicious.


2 posted on 07/18/2012 4:09:02 PM PDT by marron
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To: ckilmer

I’m surprised that no one has charged barry or pelosi with treason - there is (2) witnesses that say his document is forged- sheriff joe and mike zullu.. if there is a lawyer on here with the balls to do it - i’ll pay for it


3 posted on 07/18/2012 4:11:39 PM PDT by chicken head
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To: ckilmer
Google News showed about 700 instances of this story in the news today.

For comparison about 6,500 for "Romney Taxes" in the last day. Broken out into two main categories, the second of which is headed with this lovely title:

"Romney, the Senate GOP and the Right-Wing Secrecy Machine‎

Huffington Post - 8 hours ago
The only conclusion to draw from Romney's tax-return reticence is that there's something he doesn't want us to see. The recent revelations that ...

Losing! My TeamDonk rivals are already gloating over who is going to replace Romney on the ticket.

4 posted on 07/18/2012 4:12:26 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: LucyT; STARWISE; SE Mom; melancholy; little jeremiah; butterdezillion; onyx

LA times....

Sheriff Joe should pass out press releases every now and then until actions are taken. Keep these legs growing.


5 posted on 07/18/2012 4:12:50 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: marron

sheriff arpaio should have mentioned rush limbaugh in a sentence or two then limbaugh would have played the sound bite. limbaugh said not ONE word about the obama fraud and forgery.


6 posted on 07/18/2012 4:13:47 PM PDT by biggredd1
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To: ckilmer

The lamestream media will have to give this story legs for anything to happen. Don’t see it in the near future.


7 posted on 07/18/2012 4:14:22 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: ckilmer

How are the claims by the Sheriff “misrepresenting Hawaii law”, Mr. Wisch?

And if Obama’s HAWAII birth certificate is valid, then why wouldn’t Alvin Onaka verify as true any of the items from that birth certificate? And why would he not verify that what was posted online was a “true and accurate representation of the original record on file”?

See, when these people are not under oath or in court, they lie as easily as they breathe. And sometimes even when they ARE under oath or in court.

I’d like to hear Wisch give the legal justification for saying that Obama was born in Honolulu. What authorizes him to say that? For that matter, what authorized Chiyome Fukino to publicly disclose information from a birth certificate? As long as they are just blowing claims out their rear end they can say whatever they want. But when Alvin Onaka was presented with that verification request application he was required by law to only verify what is considered legally true - and he was required to verify EVERYTHING that was submitted for verification if it was considered legally true. Those are very specific rules. Onaka was not authorized to blow comments out of his rear end. And in that context, he refused to verify as legally true ANYTHING from Obama’s birth record.

Wisch’s only justification for saying the things he has said is ignorance. Onaka can’t claim ignorance, nor can he claim leeway to fudge his response. The difference between those 2 contexts (Wisch and Fukino’s wing-it statements to the press, versus Onaka’s strictly-dictated-by-law responses) is night and day.


8 posted on 07/18/2012 4:15:00 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: marron

Every news room has a graphics department with computers and people skilled in photo shop.

THEY ALL KNOW.


9 posted on 07/18/2012 4:15:00 PM PDT by JohnnyP
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To: ckilmer

FOR THOSE WHO WANT (OR NEED)THE WHOLE THING:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcg-lIabchA


10 posted on 07/18/2012 4:15:48 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: biggredd1

Rush knows the story will go nowhere and just bring more ridicule on him and Arpaio. The Media has to serve the truth to have a free country.


11 posted on 07/18/2012 4:17:50 PM PDT by omega4179 ( el 0bama comio un perro)
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To: marron

There was nothing in this article that couldn’t have been written 4 months ago. Lazy journalism at best.

Wisch was never authorized to see Obama’s birth record. Why did they talk to Wisch? Why not talk to HDOH Director Fuddy or, even better yet, Alvin Onaka - the only 2 people at the HDOH office currently who have been authorized to see the record? Asking Wisch when he has no way of knowing - according to the HDOH’s own claims - is like asking a blind man what color a pair of mittens is.

Ridiculous.


12 posted on 07/18/2012 4:19:27 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: JohnnyP
THEY ALL KNOW.

know? It probably originated at CNN.

13 posted on 07/18/2012 4:19:49 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: marron

“There is no such thing as bad publicity.”


14 posted on 07/18/2012 4:21:31 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: omega4179

the story of posting a fraudulent and forged document online by the commie usurper is just a story? Maybe Rush should have done three hours on batman instead of one hour.


15 posted on 07/18/2012 4:21:58 PM PDT by biggredd1
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To: ckilmer

Someday Sheriff Joe and his Posse will be vindicated in time. Truth will prevail even if delayed by the darkness of the present.


16 posted on 07/18/2012 4:27:59 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Interesting that you bring up CNN...

Based on what Verna Lee said, there is no way that Stig WAidelich was given a BC# 282 later than Gretchen Nordyke, who was born 28 minutes before him. For 282 people to be born in those 28 minutes would require a birth rate 336 times the birth rate in Honolulu for August of 1961.

The HDOH fabricated a BC# for Stig Waidelich to make it appear that BC#’s were not issued sequentially (in order to try to explain away Obama’s BC# discrepancy). And in order to get that false BC# out into the public they arranged a stunt with CNN, where CNN would focus on Stig Waidelich and have him order his BC and pick up the COLB straight from the HDOH office while the CNN cameras videotaped, including the BC#.

By about 6am the morning after that segment by Gary Tuchmann aired on CNN on April 25, 2011... an Obama supporter submitted a comment on my blog asking whether I had seen Stig Waidelich’s BC# and that it contradicted what I was saying about Obama’s BC# being a discrepancy.

That segment showing the BC# that was specifically fabricated by the HDOH for CNN cameras was re-aired on May 30th, when Mike Zullo was in Hawaii investigating the fraud surrounding Obama’s BC. That’s TWICE that CNN aired the stunt that they worked out with the HDOH in order to get FALSIFIED records into the public eye.

So when you mention CNN, they actually DID play a hand in a fabricated birth certificate: Stig Waidelich’s. With the help of the HDOH itself.

This is much, much bigger than Rathergate.


17 posted on 07/18/2012 4:31:23 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Jack Black

This is all that Dem Wonks at work rant over. Polly parroting their MSM feeders like good little DemBots.


18 posted on 07/18/2012 4:36:30 PM PDT by Gasshog (Tragically,Obama ate the blue dog...)
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To: ckilmer

I believe that the story should be spread with viciousness and ridicule. I can’t believe the lack of the will of pubs to not pursue this. Bunch of sissybitches devoid of balls.

God, I wish Palin was the nominee. She has more than all the other pubs combined.

When I was a young man, I had to show ID to buy adult beverages, to buy smokes, which we still have to do, but now, you can vote, and even become president without any identification at all.

So we get a fraud in office, a fascist/communist/socialist, without papers to prove who he is. And the RATS continue this hypocrisy.

I have convinced three people to vote against the obamanation in the next election, whom have never voted before.

The nation is at a crossroads, na, romney was not my choice, but I will do everything I can do to keep this fascist from having a second term.

Blessings, Bobo


19 posted on 07/18/2012 4:46:37 PM PDT by bobo1
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To: biggredd1

Actually he did say something. Said he was going to see how it plays out. I was in and out of Rush today and it was a needle in a hay stack catching it as I did.

I didn’t hear Glenn Beck say anything either but as with Rush’s show I didn’t hear the whole thing.

A local guy in my town mentioned it towards the end of his show.

J.D. Hayworth was filling in for Mike Church and he talked about it for around 20 minutes straight.


20 posted on 07/18/2012 4:50:15 PM PDT by CommieCutter
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To: butterdezillion

And a fabricated birth certificate for a girl with the last name of Ah Nee was given to WorldNetDaily for the same reason. I said on my blog that I believed it to be a fabricated BC# intended to confuse the issue of how BC#’s were assigned. Ah Nee was born on Aug 23, but her BC# was 693 BEFORE Gretchen Nordyke’s, who was born on Aug 5th in the geographical area which was numbered first (the city of Honolulu).

The Ah Nee birth certificate number had to be fabricated, which I concluded based on 2 of the digits appearing to overlap. Because the digits were forged, this was probably not a case of the HDOH doing the fabrication of the BC#. But it’s an example of somebody using the Van Jones technique of feeding false information to a source trusted by the target group in order to deceive that target group. IOW, the Obots knew darn good and well this whole time that there was a BC# problem for Obama, and they resorted to FORGING records in order to try to deceive the public into thinking there wasn’t.

What’s really sad is that the HDOH itself - a government agency - did the same thing with Stig Waidelich’s BC#.

And this shows that Mike Zullo was dead-on when he said that the findings of this investigation suggest that ANY Hawaii birth certificate should be questioned. We have no way of knowing whether ANYTHING put out by that DOH office is even worth the paper it’s printed on. They have been caught 3 times now, falsifying official records (Waidelich’s BC#, the 1960-64 birth index, and Virginia Sunahara’s record in the database so that it wouldn’t show up when her name was queried).


21 posted on 07/18/2012 4:50:15 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: ckilmer

All you have to do is open the officially-released PDF file in Adobe Illustrator. It’s an obvious fake, with vector layers added right on top of a scanned image. Anyone with a basic understanding of PDF/vector graphics can see it in a matter of seconds.


22 posted on 07/18/2012 4:54:57 PM PDT by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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To: CommieCutter; biggredd1
"I didn’t hear Glenn Beck say anything either but as with Rush’s show I didn’t hear the whole thing."

As with Rush he did give it a mention. Glenn's program today was all about the book "The Communist" Obama's mentor, Frank Marshall Davis.

23 posted on 07/18/2012 4:56:24 PM PDT by Spunky (Those)
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To: Spunky

Thanks. Good to know.

Glen has mostly mocked this subject in the past.


24 posted on 07/18/2012 5:03:43 PM PDT by CommieCutter
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To: chicken head

I will contribute.

Blessings, bobo


25 posted on 07/18/2012 5:07:57 PM PDT by bobo1
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To: Spunky

What did he say about it? Did he mock it?


26 posted on 07/18/2012 5:08:15 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: SunStar

I (think) can see the white haze behind the letters without any program like that. If my computer has been restarted or put on standby and I click it you can see a slight delay in the display of the letters; what appears first is the green background with the haze, then instantly, the typed letters appear over the haze.

If I close down the pdf and immediately do this again it doesn’t happen. It must have something to do with the RAM, or lack there of from my 5 year old computer. Not sure.


27 posted on 07/18/2012 5:12:16 PM PDT by CommieCutter
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To: bobo1

Thanks a bunch- Just need a lawyer to do it..and i’m sure everyone on FR could put there heads together on this— I really think it would work..


28 posted on 07/18/2012 5:14:01 PM PDT by chicken head
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To: CommieCutter
Open this link in Illustrator and see for yourself.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf

Here's a fairly detailed, point-by-point explanation: http://www.wnd.com/files/2011/07/110726whitedots.pdf.

There are many similar websites and documents out there that explain it, followed by the back-and-forth arguments and hand-wringing/name-calling by leftists who can only conceive of government concealment when a Republican is in-office. But it was immediately apparent to me upon opening the file. Created on a Mac on the day the White House released the file, with multiple vector layers over a scanned image.

At the very least, the document is suspect because it is not a scan of the physical/original document. They didn't have Macs or PDFs in the 1960's people! Therefore, the original birth certificate was never released, irrespective of the PDF file.
29 posted on 07/18/2012 5:19:30 PM PDT by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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To: butterdezillion
Someone in the studio was prompting Rush to comment. Rush said he would let it “effervesce on its own out there.” Not a peep on Drudge at the moment.
30 posted on 07/18/2012 5:28:57 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (let establishment heads explode)
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To: butterdezillion
Honestly I can't tell you exactly what he said. It comes on at 6:00 a.m. here and I was half asleep. I know he reports on what The Blaze has on top so he might have been talking about what The Blaze said.

The Blaze

31 posted on 07/18/2012 5:46:16 PM PDT by Spunky (Those)
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To: butterdezillion

interesting


32 posted on 07/18/2012 5:48:58 PM PDT by dalebert
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