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Harry Reid: If We Win in November, We're Going to Nuke the Filibuster
Townhall.com ^ | Guy Benson

Posted on 07/18/2012 4:39:17 PM PDT by Kaslin

He might be bluffing or playing to the MSNBC audience, but don't be so sure.  He's already changed Senate rules on the fly to deny Republicans the opportunity to force uncomfortable votes and exploded Senate precedent on the amendment process within the last few years.  Next up: Legislative filibuster Hiroshima?
 

In May, Harry Reid apologized for killing off a 2010 filibuster reform bill, admitting that the legislative procedure has been “abused, abused, and abused.” Reid has now gone a step farther: the Senate Majority Leader is now openly promising to pass filibuster reform in the beginning of the next Congress if Democrats manage to hold onto a simple majority in the Senate and if Obama is reelected.  Reid made the remarks on Friday to MSNBC’s Ed Schultz, a day after Democrats were unable to overcome the GOP threat of a filibuster on a small-business tax-cut bill, which failed on a 53-44 vote:
 

REID: They’re just trying to kill this bill, as they’ve  killed scores of other bills we’ve had because they’re filibustering. They’re filibustering until we have to change the rules. We can’t go on like this anymore. I don’t want to get rid of the filibuster, but I have to tell you, I want to change the rules and make the filibuster meaningful. The filibuster is not part of our constitution, it came about as a result of our wanting to get legislation passed, and now it’s being used to stop legislation from passing.

SCHULTZ: But you’d change the rules…

REID: Oh, we could have done it in the last Congress. But I got on the Senate floor and said that I made a mistake and  I should have helped with that. It can be done if Obama is re-elected, and I can still do it if I have a majority, we can do it with a simple majority at the beginning of the next Congress.

SCHULTZ: Think the President will go along with that?

REID: You damn betcha.


Republicans have launched an unprecedented number of filibusters because Reid has used unprecedented tactics to block them from forcing tough votes or even offering amendments to legislation. (See: "filling the tree.")  The only recourse for an otherwise powerless Senate minority, therefore, is to block cloture.  This gridlock is a byproduct both of Reid's dreadful leadership and of the American people's will, which sent 63 new House members and seven new Republican Senators in 2010 explicitly to obstruct the Democrats' extreme agenda.  Also, notice how Reid talks tough about nuking the filibuster only "if Democrats manage to hold onto a simple majority in the Senate and if Obama is reelected."  Wait, so majority leader Reid wouldn't blow up decades of Senate comity and precedent under a President Romney?  How very curious!  I wonder why he'd suddenly rewind his jeremiad against long-established minority rights in that case.  I'll leave you with this classic clip of pretty much every single Democrat Senator (including you-know-who) railing against the "tyranny" of the so-called nuclear option when Republicans were considering a form of it in 2005:
 

Obama and Democrats on Reconciliation/Nuclear Option 2005

Keep in mind that this was all in response to a limited anti-filibuster maneuver (ultimately averted by the Gang of 14), which would have required a simple majority only for judicial appointments.  After all, Article II of the Constitution says that the president "shall appoint" members of the judiciary, with merely the"advice and consent" of the Senate.  James Madison had argued that a super-majority should be required to block such an appointment.  The most relevant quote in the montage comes from California's Diane Feinstein:
 

"It begins with judicial nominations. Next will be executive appointments. And then, legislation."


Democrats vociferously objected to the judicial nuclear option a few years ago because it could open the door to the unthinkable: Doing away with the sacrosanct legislative filibuster.  If Democrats win, Reid is promising to skip straight to that ultimate detonation.


TOPICS: Editorial; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; democrats; elections; reid
This is why it is important that we not only get the senate back, but get the super majority
1 posted on 07/18/2012 4:39:20 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Don’t be a wuss Harry, change it now.


2 posted on 07/18/2012 4:42:04 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Kaslin
And if they lose?
On Dec 21, 2012, Obama will have had a little over a month to stew in his humiliating, crushing and unexpected defeat at the hands of the American people.

He’ll still be Commander in Chief.

He’ll still have the nuclear ‘football’. Just sitting there. Staring at him. Taunting him. Daring him. Double-eaten-dog daring him...


3 posted on 07/18/2012 4:45:15 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1274 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Reid is a smarmy little dictator.


4 posted on 07/18/2012 4:45:55 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Kaslin

next time Filibuster your a&&

5 posted on 07/18/2012 4:45:55 PM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Kaslin

Does that mean Harry would be okay with us getting rid of the filibuster when we win the election?


6 posted on 07/18/2012 4:47:46 PM PDT by beandog (All Aboard the Choo Choo Train to Crazy Town)
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To: Doogle

How did you get that broken finger, Harry?

Dick Cheney punched me in the nose.


7 posted on 07/18/2012 4:49:43 PM PDT by shove_it (just undo it)
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To: Jim Robinson
Reid is a smarmy little dictator.

Anyone who's seen "Casino" and know the story behind know that "Senator" was,in real life,Nevada State Senator Harry Reid.So he had practice before arriving in DC...

8 posted on 07/18/2012 4:50:32 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Poor Barak.If He's Reelected,Think Of The Mess He'll Inherit!)
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To: Kaslin

FINALLY, something that I can agree with him on. So let’s make a deal: Whomever controls the Senate in 2013 kills the filibuster. Assuming we win the Senate, they are doomed.


9 posted on 07/18/2012 4:50:46 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Kaslin
This is why it is important that we not only get the senate back, but get the super majority

Right you are. The Demonrats are hell-bent on setting up a one-party, perpetual dictatorship, perhaps including giving the Usurper the right to a third term. I firmly believe this upcoming election is the most vital in our history.

10 posted on 07/18/2012 4:53:44 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: Kaslin

Of course, if they lose (which is highly likely), he’ll use it to block any decent reform bills.


11 posted on 07/18/2012 4:54:57 PM PDT by ilgipper ( November cannot come soon enough)
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To: Kaslin

Why wait????

Reid has the simple majority now! He might not have it come January.

Come on Harry, go for it now if you got the guts to be a real leader!


12 posted on 07/18/2012 5:01:36 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: BobL

See post # 1 there is no if or buts about it


13 posted on 07/18/2012 5:02:16 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin
Hey, Harry. What if you lose in November? will you be singing the same song if the GOP fiddles with the filibuster? (Of course, we know the answer.)

What a great way to start the year. Senate agenda:

Day 1, item 1: suspend the filibuster for one day.

Day 1, item 2: repeal Dodd-Frank, Affordable Health Care Act, other laws as deemed appropriate

Day 1, item 3: legislatively repeal all Code of Federal Regulations rules adopted from 2009 through 2012.

Day 1, item 4: disband the United States Departments of Education, Commerce, etc. etc. etc.

Day 1, item 5: legislatively remove jurisdiction from federal courts to hear appeals on any basis whatsoever from convictions in state courts for violations of state laws.

Day 1, item 6: dissolve half of the United States District Courts in the country (courts to be retained to be selected by the Federalist Society)

Day 1, item 7: dissolve the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals

Day 1, item 8: cut congressional salaries to $25,000; senatorial salaries to $35,000. Eliminate current legislative retirements packages, replace with social security and medicare.

Day 1, item 9: recess Congress until next year's one-day session.

14 posted on 07/18/2012 5:02:20 PM PDT by Spartan79 (I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health, and the liberties of man.)
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To: Spartan79
Hey, Harry. What if when you lose in November? will you be singing the same song if the GOP fiddles with the filibuster?

This is much better, don't you agree?

15 posted on 07/18/2012 5:07:03 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

Sad when democrats energize our base more than our own candidates.


16 posted on 07/18/2012 5:09:05 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Kaslin

I can’t wait to honor this SOB the only way he deserves - by pissing on his grave! Pass me a Big Gulp and stand back so you don’t get splashed!


17 posted on 07/18/2012 5:17:21 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ("Get that evil, foreign, muslim, usurping bastard out of MY White House!")
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To: Kaslin

legislative procedure has been “abused, abused, and abused.”

This from the man who files for cloture at the same moment he files a bill.

Reid is an oligarch. He doesn’t like to actually legislate.


18 posted on 07/18/2012 5:24:39 PM PDT by cotton1706
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To: Kaslin

The best Republican senatorial response is to take him at face value, and say if the Republicans get control of the senate, they will not only stop the filibuster, but also the ability of a single senator to stop the operation of any senate business by ‘flagging’ it.

This means a single senator would not be able to block senate hearings, judicial appointments, or other business.


19 posted on 07/18/2012 5:28:22 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Kaslin

Someone with some Photoshop skills should make a video of Reid standing on the Capitol steps ripping up a copy of the Constitution.


20 posted on 07/18/2012 5:30:11 PM PDT by jeffc (Welcome to the United Socialist States of America)
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To: Kaslin

The Democrats are destroying our Gopvernment folks: It’s as simple as that.

They are doing it deliberately in a Power move that has as it’s goal the destruction of our Constitutional form f Government.

Real Patriots may have to fight. Prepare for it.


21 posted on 07/18/2012 5:30:50 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Good point


22 posted on 07/18/2012 5:35:17 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

Nuke Harry first!


23 posted on 07/18/2012 5:36:31 PM PDT by G Larry (I'm under no obligation to be a passive victim!)
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To: Kaslin

I hope the Republicans give the Democrats a taste of their own medicine. That is the only way to stop this nonsense. But knowing the Republicans they’ll cave....


24 posted on 07/18/2012 5:40:48 PM PDT by HarleyD
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To: beandog

That’s exactly what they should do.

Give ‘em some of their own medicine.
Run the SOBs out of the country.


25 posted on 07/18/2012 5:42:11 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's Welfare, Food Stamps, Division and Disability 'Legacy')
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To: Kaslin

Not to worry. We’re on deck to pick up around 10 or more seats in the Senate.


26 posted on 07/18/2012 5:42:11 PM PDT by TheRhinelander
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To: Kaslin

Then we cannot allow you to win, Harry.


27 posted on 07/18/2012 5:42:52 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Doogle

Repiblicans need to keep the house, take back the senate, nuke the filibuster than sic the law on every RAT ba$t@rd that has ruined the country.

Also, bring in the Feds and take down Chicago. Everyone, Obama included.


28 posted on 07/18/2012 5:43:26 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (ABO 2012)
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To: Kaslin

Don’t worry “Dingy Harry”...you won’t win. Your party will be reeling from a defeat of epic proportions.

Count on it.


29 posted on 07/18/2012 5:46:43 PM PDT by PreciousLiberty (Pray for America!!!)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

I heard on radio, I think Rush, say he truly thinks something is wrong with Reid.
He wasn’t being nasty either.


30 posted on 07/18/2012 5:47:08 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's Welfare, Food Stamps, Division and Disability 'Legacy')
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To: Kaslin

I am more concerned about Obama simply ripping up the Constitution and ending all free elections.


31 posted on 07/18/2012 6:12:21 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Kaslin

I guess Republicans can do unto Democrats as Democrats are doing to them. With Romney as president, a Republican House and Republican Senate, Democrats won’t have anything but their media and the Supreme Court. America might get a reprieve.


32 posted on 07/18/2012 6:21:25 PM PDT by pallis
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To: Kaslin

It is time to ‘nuke’ Reid, Feinstein, and the whole leftist bunch...this election gives us that opportunity...get these evil pieces of leftist shit out of having any control of government.

We need to elect as many good conservatives as we can to both houses of Congress...it is especially important for the Senate...so that they can elect a majority leader consistant with the rest of this...McConnell has to go.

In the house we need enough to replace Bonehead with a conservative as Speaker of the House. We accomplish these things and other things will begin to fall into place.

Gpa has spoken :)


33 posted on 07/18/2012 6:26:15 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: The Great RJ

“I am more concerned about Obama simply ripping up the Constitution and ending all free elections.”

That would be one horrendous mistake on the part of the Bummer. He would have to answer to ‘We the People’...


34 posted on 07/18/2012 6:29:14 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: Kaslin

There is something truly disturbing about Reid. I can’t quite place it...does he have some freaky fetish...or is it something even sicker? Whatever it is, Reid comes across as one really weird dude. The kind that if he approached you on the street you’d reach for your pepper spray (or something stronger if you’re licensed to carry).

Anyone else get that sinister vibe from that whispering little geek?


35 posted on 07/18/2012 6:45:29 PM PDT by Cookies4ever
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To: Kaslin
MEMO to Mr. Reid-- The filibuster sword cuts both ways Sphincter Boy.

The end of the filibuster would be a further erosion of the traditions that restrain political power in this nation. It would be harmful in the long run. On the other hand, if we need to do it to kill Obama-doesnt-care--then we may have to swallow that poison.

36 posted on 07/18/2012 6:55:04 PM PDT by Lysandru
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To: Kaslin

Thanks again Nevada GOP for nominating Sharon Angle!

The nation could have been rid of this disgrace if not for that disastrous pick.


37 posted on 07/18/2012 7:36:01 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: Aetius

How do you think I feel. The IL GOP nominated Alan Keyes to run against Obama. Frigging idiots....


38 posted on 07/19/2012 1:54:39 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is, it is the only answer.)
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To: Cookies4ever
Anyone else get that sinister vibe from that whispering little geek

I get that vibe from just about all Emocrats.

39 posted on 07/19/2012 1:54:52 PM PDT by Drill Thrawl (Another day. Another small provocation. Another step closer.)
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To: Kaslin
That's Right!

...and we have a real shot of doing just that.

40 posted on 07/19/2012 3:18:35 PM PDT by painter (Rebuild The America We love!)
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To: Lurker

Before his candidacy was undone by his divorce, wasn’t Jack Ryan (was that his name?) competitive with Obama in the polls?


41 posted on 07/19/2012 4:22:05 PM PDT by Aetius
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To: Kaslin

There is a place for evil men like dirty Harry, it’s called hell. He is repulsive little commie sob.


42 posted on 07/19/2012 4:42:08 PM PDT by DIXIEBELLE2012
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To: Spartan79

YES!!!


43 posted on 07/19/2012 4:42:20 PM PDT by DIXIEBELLE2012
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