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Jeff Sessions: More Americans Are Collecting Disability Than Finding Jobs
Townhall.com ^ | July 18, 2012 | Daniel Doherty

Posted on 07/18/2012 5:22:29 PM PDT by Kaslin

Take a look at these two charts, courtesy of the Weekly Standard’s Daniel Halper:

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This is an alarming trend. The United States, increasingly, is becoming a nation where more and more Americans are collecting government checks than finding jobs. And, considering only 1 percent of Social Security disability recipients ever return to the workforce (according to Alabama Senator Jeff Sessions), this disturbing tendency will have significant and perhaps sweeping implications. These numbers also come on the heels of The One’s decision last week -- as Guy explained yesterday -- to unilaterally dismantle then-President Clinton’s historic (and successful!) welfare reforms of the 1990s. This, in effect, takes a giant ax to the legislation’s work requirements, creating a disincentive for welfare recipients to seek "real" employment opportunities, and thus fostering more government dependency. Sadly, too, more Americans are on food stamps than ever before (about 45 million), and Congress seems woefully unable – or unwilling -- to work across party lines and solve the nation's fiscal challenges.

This is a crucial time for our country -- after all, this year's presidential contest could be the most important election of our lifetime -- and we need a chief executive who espouses policies that will reignite the entrepreneurial spirit of the Americans people, thereby creating economic opportunity in this country for the tens of millions of Americans who are unemployed, underemployed or have stopped looking for work. Indeed, there are stark differences between the two candidates running for president this year -- not the least of which is President Obama’s jarring conviction that entrepreneurial success in America derives not from hardworking individuals, but from government institutions. This is a philosophy we simply cannot afford for another four years.


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1 posted on 07/18/2012 5:22:35 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

That’s all nice and good but what are he and his colleagues doing to ease job creation?

Bold words are meaningless without bold actions.


2 posted on 07/18/2012 5:26:41 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Kaslin

not if they are white


3 posted on 07/18/2012 5:30:11 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: Kaslin

That is alarming to see that many added in that time span.


4 posted on 07/18/2012 5:38:46 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: Kaslin

These articles suggest that all those on disability aren’t disabled. I’m sure there are some but I don’t think it’s as rampant as some believe.


5 posted on 07/18/2012 5:39:13 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( To kin and former friends: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: Kaslin
The uptick in employment reflects the increase in Liberal lawyers jumping on board to 'FIGHT FOR YOUR DISABILITY RIGHTS'... Other job growth is related to creating and distributing EBT cards...

Thanks Obama - the Disability scam - where adults collect Social Security for 50 and 60 years - starting in their 20's will bankrupt the system for the elderly, destroy it for people who really ARE disabled, and turn the scammers into drug addicted animals... Oh, and deny retirement to the 90% of white Americans who will be asked to work until they drop - on the job - in their 80's....

6 posted on 07/18/2012 5:43:59 PM PDT by GOPJ (Political correctness is simply George Orwell's Newspeak by a non-threatening name. FR- Bernard Marx)
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To: Girlene

all agencies are being run wide open. minorities rule. kids in a candy store passing out favors


7 posted on 07/18/2012 5:44:28 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: Terry Mross
Drive in some inner city neighborhood and notice all the signs for 'We'll fight for YOU disability rights'. Go down to your local Social Security office and you'll see that more than half the people on any given day are look a lot like gang bangers...

The crime here is that when the scammers bankrupt the system, those people who really are disabled - along with senior citizens too old to work - will die. Some might have family - those who don't will die. Think about it.

8 posted on 07/18/2012 5:47:44 PM PDT by GOPJ (Political correctness is simply George Orwell's Newspeak by a non-threatening name. FR- Bernard Marx)
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To: Terry Mross

“I’m sure there are some but I don’t think it’s as rampant as some believe.”

Do you see the commercials that run on daytime TV (while people are working)? How long can someone watch them, while simultaneously watching their unemployment insurance run out, before they put 2 and 2 together?

We’ve had too many scams BEFORE the job market crashed to believe that many people are honestly disabled.


9 posted on 07/18/2012 5:50:25 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: Terry Mross

Do you know what a crazy check is?


10 posted on 07/18/2012 5:52:51 PM PDT by Waryone
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To: Kaslin

After what I saw on FNC this morning, Barry might need to start a training program to teach people HOW to be “disabled”. Anyone else see the clip of the loon trying to drive a “Wallymobile” onto an escalator? Jeee....! What I dork. I had already figured out that wouldn’t work out long before I ever reached puberty.


11 posted on 07/18/2012 5:53:17 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Who is Barack Hussein Obama?)
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To: kearnyirish2

So ... bring back jobs.

It’s not complicated at all.

Bring back jobs.


12 posted on 07/18/2012 5:53:23 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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To: GOPJ
Same thing at tax time.

Tax prep outfits on every street corner.

Sucking up those "earned income" credits

right from Uncle Sugar's mouth:

The EITC is a refundable tax credit. This means you may get money back, even if you have no tax withheld. Nationwide last year, almost 26.8 million eligible individuals and families received over $59.5 billion total in EITC.

Generally, the EITC has no effect on welfare benefits. In most cases, EITC payments will not be used to determine eligibility for Medicaid, Supplemental Security Income (SSI), supplemental nutrition assistance program (food stamps), low-income housing or most Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) payments. Though unemployment benefits are not earned income, they are taxable and thus affect the amount of EITC you can receive.

$464 with no qualifying children $3,094 with one qualifying child $5,112 with two qualifying children $5,751 with three or more qualifying children

13 posted on 07/18/2012 5:55:06 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: kearnyirish2

“You’ve worked hard all your life - now it’s time to get the benefits you’ve earned. No fees until we win your case”


14 posted on 07/18/2012 5:56:39 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Terry Mross

From what I’m reading, the number of people obtaining disability has increased dramatically since 2008. The rate shouldn’t change all that much over time. Because it has since 2008, it’s a good indicator that a number of them “may” not be clinically disabled.


15 posted on 07/18/2012 6:00:47 PM PDT by Girlene
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

It is complicated; American workers can’t compete with workers overseas who work for a bowl of noodles a day without workers comp, disability insurance, sick days, etc. Flooding the US and European markets with slave-made products will naturally idle our own workers; now we don’t even have the money to buy their cheap lead-tainted sh!t anymore.

There is a reason why Red Chinese workers are committing suicide; they are already at the rock-bottom towards which we are heading. I’ve stated on other threads: we’re not just at the point where home ownership is a thing of the past; we’ve reached a point where CAR ownership will soon be a thing of the past as well. Both will simply be rented/leased; it already killed the housing market, and now the auto market is reeling. Like Red Chinese slaves, one child will be the max (by economics rather than outright force); many Americans are already stuck at 0 children (and that won’t be changing any time soon). rather than see the obvious depopulation occurring, we simply import replacements to fill our vacant schools, neighborhoods and such.


16 posted on 07/18/2012 6:00:47 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: nascarnation

I see these studies explaining the differences in Americans using such criterion as race and education; the biggest difference I can ever see between myself and another person is whether or not they watch weekday television.

Occasionally on holidays I’ll watch TV on a Monday morning; when I do I very clearly understand why there is a Democrat Party, and what kind of people it is composed of. A person that works all day has NOTHING in common with the people they support while they sit on their asses watching daytime TV.

It is actually very depressing; in my area many people go to work, and the “others” then roam looking to rob your house while you do so. A good number of retirees serve as vigilant watchmen, so we’ve been OK so far.


17 posted on 07/18/2012 6:05:15 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: kearnyirish2

No surprise that Jerry Springer was “thrilled” with Baraq:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/17/jerry-springer-barack-obama_n_1680207.html


18 posted on 07/18/2012 6:07:33 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: GOPJ

The shyster lawyers are everywhere, not just the ghetto. Plus, I doubt if many in the ghetto qualify. They never worked.

But lawers like Bender and Bender are playing a numbers game. They run ads and weed out the ones they don’t think they’ll make money on. They won’t take the case until you’re rejected the first time. Why? Because the SS regulations says the attorney can only collect 25% of the backpay. Then the only thing they do is fill out the forms. And if they win, and it’s a numbers game, they get 25% for filling out the paperwork.

And again I’ll say I don’t think there are that many doctors out there doing crooked stuff. The doctor doesn’t even reccommend to SS that you get disability. They simply send the medical files to SS.

What I do think happened is SS was way too lax on their requirements and more and more people were being approved. Now, they’ve tightened up, and like you say, people who should be getting SS disability are getting caught in the shuffle.


19 posted on 07/18/2012 6:11:20 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( To kin and former friends: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I didn’t see it but they were taking about it on Fox News Happening Now when my husband and I drove home from his doctor’s appointment and we were listening to it on my Sirius radio.


20 posted on 07/18/2012 6:17:12 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Terry Mross
These articles suggest that all those on disability aren’t disabled. I’m sure there are some but I don’t think it’s as rampant as some believe.

You might be surprised

21 posted on 07/18/2012 6:21:46 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Terry Mross

“I’m sure there are some but I don’t think it’s as rampant as some believe.’

Believe me, it is rampant. These lazy, good-for-nothing slobs work harder to get on SSI or workmen’s comp than they work on their jobs.

Winning a workmen’s comp ruling is winning the lottery. They collect $3,000 a month or more and can go fishing and drink beer the rest of their short lives. Most do die in their late 40s or early 50s. They drink or eat themselves into an early grave.

The quacks and shysters who arrange this fraud need to be hanged or shot.


22 posted on 07/18/2012 6:30:37 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Public unions exist to protect the unions from the taxpaying public)
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To: Terry Mross

State Percentage of
working age persons
with disabilties
West Virginia 12.6%
Kentucky 11.4%
Arkansas 11.2%
Mississippi 11.0%
Louisiana 10.3%

http://www.infouse.com/disabilitydata/workdisability/1_5.php

I live in the South - spoke to a person some time back who told me ALL 12 siblings in the family were collecting disability... A bother said to ‘go mental’ because it’s harder to disprove. The oldest in the family was - - late 40’s - the youngest late 20’s. Some in that family could collect Social Security for 70 years... The person I knew was the only one with a real disability... Puerto Rico has the highest disability acceptance rate.

I fear there’s great inconsistency in the program - with good people who need help being rejected - and scammers taking advantage...

When you look at the above numbers does it really seem to you that more than one in ten people in those southern states could be ‘disabled’?


23 posted on 07/18/2012 6:30:43 PM PDT by GOPJ (Political correctness is simply George Orwell's Newspeak by a non-threatening name. FR- Bernard Marx)
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To: nascarnation

Earned Income Credits go to people who work - I’m OK with that... The old welfare reform idea was to help people overcome dependence and helplessness. To reward them for standing on their own feet... or staring to.. Turned out the unintended consequences of welfare were destructive. Look what those liberal ideas have done to our inner cities...

Incentives to allow dignity and stop dependence are good.... Disability is going to prove to be worse than welfare for the people it traps. I don’t understand democrats - their ‘solutions’ have to do with making them feel good about themselves - not about actually helping the poor or downtrodden.

Our liberal elites are sick.


24 posted on 07/18/2012 6:39:04 PM PDT by GOPJ (Political correctness is simply George Orwell's Newspeak by a non-threatening name. FR- Bernard Marx)
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To: GOPJ

Except the scam in the hood is LaTiesha watches LaKiesha’s kids and vice versa. Just reporting enough to grab the EIC.

Check out how many storefront income tax outfits there are in your local hood next January.


25 posted on 07/18/2012 6:42:55 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Kaslin

No wonder when they make more money at the former than at the latter.


26 posted on 07/18/2012 6:52:57 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: GOPJ

“I don’t understand democrats - their ‘solutions’ have to do with making them feel good about themselves - not about actually helping the poor or downtrodden.”

Democratic politicians have a vested interest in keeping people poor and downtrodden. The more poor there are, the more likely they tend to vote Democrat thus increasing their power.


27 posted on 07/18/2012 6:55:55 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan

To those saying that it is a scam: We’d much rather be working than unemployable due to illness. In my case, I have Parkinsons and am 63. No way I can hold down a job any more. Hung in there for years, finally caught up with me. Difference was only $400 a month between my basic SS payment and the total with disability, but it will mean a lot down the road.

And there are a lot like me. Over 55 with health issues, who have hung in there, but were laid off in the “great recession”. Now, they’re unemployed and unemployable due to age and health. The only alternative is to file for SS and disability. Not that it is a “want-to” but a “got-to” thanks to O and the administration.

8 million are no longer in the work force, and for every job in many places, 50 to 100 are applying, so only the youngest and healthiest are even considered. That is the reality today.

So for those of you whining about the “scam”, go get the facts first.


28 posted on 07/18/2012 7:36:53 PM PDT by rstrahan
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To: Terry Mross

Plus, I doubt if many in the ghetto qualify. They never worked.

mmmm you don’t have to have worked to collect Social Security Disability. SSI-SSP. Look it up.


29 posted on 07/19/2012 1:31:02 PM PDT by sheana
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To: ReformationFan

Democratic politicians have a vested interest in keeping people poor and downtrodden. The more poor there are, the more likely they tend to vote Democrat thus increasing their power.

You're right - poor and broken keeps dems in office and gives the MSM sob stories so liberal elites can feel 'oh so superior' ... It's a twofer for the creepy ones.

30 posted on 07/19/2012 2:34:06 PM PDT by GOPJ (Political correctness is simply George Orwell's Newspeak by a non-threatening name. FR- Bernard Marx)
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To: Kaslin

My Grandfather was mostly deaf, had poor eyesight, and walked slowly.

He worked into his 90s because he loved it.

Now every fat POS (not counting the actual disabled) is claiming disabilities because they cant wipe their ass.


31 posted on 07/19/2012 2:43:07 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Terry Mross
But lawyers like Bender and Bender are playing a numbers game...

If the State make it legal sell your first child for shark bait, Bender and Bender would be making money selling the contracts. This scam part of 'disability' was put together by liberal elites - a large portion of that group are lawyers.

If any of us were 'scum of the earth' types I guess we'd have to make a lot of money too - to distract us from what we were... They're only following orders... opps, I mean they're only doing what the law allows...

32 posted on 07/19/2012 2:45:31 PM PDT by GOPJ (Political correctness is simply George Orwell's Newspeak by a non-threatening name. FR- Bernard Marx)
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To: sergeantdave

If there are quacks that do this then they’re making fraudulent diagnosis and putting them in the patients’ files. And I know there are some doctors out there who “know” lawyers they always work with. And the lawyer could be giving the doctor a kickback of the back pay. But that’s a whole ‘nother story. That would call for an investigation of the doctors and lawyers and, in this day and age, nobody wants to be called a racist if they happen to investigate the “wrong” doctor.

I don’t understand how one can get it without having worked. There’s a freeper on here who said he didn’t qualify because he was one quarter short.


33 posted on 07/19/2012 3:51:18 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( To kin and former friends: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: rstrahan

Amen, brother! Another thing. You’ve got bad health such as a heart condition and nobody will hire you. You may be “able” to work but not as far as compay owner who has to pay your insurance is concerned.

And again, I know there are some scammers. But in this day and age, it’s not as easy as some think. They’ve really tightened up. In fact, I had a lawyer tell me he thinks they’re now rejecting all of the initial claims unless it’s so obvious the guy can’t work such as brain damage.


34 posted on 07/19/2012 3:58:47 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( To kin and former friends: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: GOPJ

How about this? To get SSD you must NOT be able to work AT ALL. However, once you get on SSD you’re allowed to earn up to $15,000 a year. Does that make sense?


35 posted on 07/19/2012 4:02:12 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( To kin and former friends: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: Terry Mross
Does that make sense?

Cloward-Piven.

36 posted on 07/19/2012 4:10:15 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Terry Mross

“I’m sure there are some but I don’t think it’s as rampant as some believe.”

Yes, yes it is. I personally know many that are on disability for no reason at all. One simply refuses to grow up and claims she has “emotional distress” becaus life “is just too hard”. Another claims her “wrist hurts” from being a bartender for 20 years. Both are on 100% disability.

There is a massive attempt to get as many on government welfare as possible; any and all welfare. The Democrats know that each is a Dem voter as when applying for benefits the propaganda doesn’t stop: “You know, it’s a good thing Obama is in the Whitehosue, Bush and the Republicans were trying to cut this program”, “Good thing a Democrat got this program funded. Bush and the Republicans were trying to cut this program.”


37 posted on 07/19/2012 5:56:59 PM PDT by CodeToad (History says our end is near.)
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To: CodeToad

I know the dems want more on the government teat. But I don’t believe people are being approved for that reason. Otherwise everyone would be approved. I think I read somewhare that 90% of applicants are turned down on the first applications. And of those who appeal, only 75% will be approved and that’s with an attorney. And these stats are from a year or so. The percentages of those rejected are much higher today.


38 posted on 07/19/2012 6:08:34 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( To kin and former friends: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: Terry Mross

They WERE being turned down but not anymore. As has been posted here as well, Obama illegally removed to law that requires a person to seek work to collect welfare. All of this to get Dem voters.

You can’t tell us that 80,000+ people each month being approved for disability means 900,000 applied but 820,000 were turned down. That would be according to your 75% stat. They aren’t. They are being approved at an alarming rate.


39 posted on 07/19/2012 6:23:04 PM PDT by CodeToad (History says our end is near.)
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To: CodeToad

Make that your 90% stat.


40 posted on 07/19/2012 6:24:11 PM PDT by CodeToad (History says our end is near.)
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To: CodeToad

There are four or five stages. A lot of those 80,000 could have been in the system for two years or more before they got their first check.

There are a few freepers who will tell you they or their spouses have been fighting for two years or more. You said “They WERE being turned down but not anymore”. That’s just not fatual. And yes, 90% of FIRST TIME applicants are turned down. And if that works out to a million a month applying, then so be it. So many people are applying that SS is tigtening up.

One way they’ve tightened up is it used to be that if you can’t do the job you’ve been doing for the last nine years, you qualify. Then they changed it to if you’re over 55 and can’t do the job you used to have, you’re qualified. Now they changed it to if you can sit a desk and answer the phone you’re not qualified.

I know a lawyer who’s done this for over 20 years. He said he’s convinced SS is so backed up that they’re automatically turning down first time applicants. He no longer takes a client unless HE’S convinced the applicant is disabled.

These law commercials you see running? Lawyers only work on cases that have been rejected the first time because they get a percentage of back pay. There is no back pay if they’re approved on the first try. That means a lot of people are getting turned down.

As for not having to work to get welfare, that has nothing to do with SS disability.


41 posted on 07/19/2012 10:31:36 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( To kin and former friends: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: Terry Mross

“That’s just not fatual. And yes, 90% of FIRST TIME applicants are turned down. And if that works out to a million a month applying, then so be it. “

I can’t help it if you appear to be bad with math and don’t like what YOUR stat shows, that about a million a month apply for disability. The number that 80,000+ a month are getting disability is a fact. If you claim 90% are turned down on first try, it doesn’t matter when they finally get approved, 80,000+ a month are getting approved and that means at least about a million a month are applying.


42 posted on 07/20/2012 9:47:21 AM PDT by CodeToad (History says our end is near.)
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To: Terry Mross

“That’s just not fatual. And yes, 90% of FIRST TIME applicants are turned down. And if that works out to a million a month applying, then so be it. “

I can’t help it if you appear to be bad with math and don’t like what YOUR stat shows, that about a million a month apply for disability. The number that 80,000+ a month are getting disability is a fact. If you claim 90% are turned down on first try, it doesn’t matter when they finally get approved, 80,000+ a month are getting approved and that means at least about a million a month are applying.


43 posted on 07/20/2012 9:53:49 AM PDT by CodeToad (History says our end is near.)
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