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Gay Curriculum Already Out Of Closet And Into Some City Classrooms
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Posted on 07/19/2012 6:54:29 PM PDT by tsowellfan

With the ink barely dry on New York's same-sex-marriage law, city summer-school teachers are already discussing same-sex nuptials in their civics classes, The Post has learned.

And the head of the state Board of Regents said lessons on gay marriage will soon make their way into New York's official curriculum...

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: evil; gaymarriage; governmentschools; homeschool; homosexualagenda; indoctrination; leftismoncampus; nyc; publicschools
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1 posted on 07/19/2012 6:54:30 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: tsowellfan
"Fudgepacking 101:

Purpose: To educate young minds on the freedom, joys, and splendor of homosexual anal sex. Children will be exposed to the glories of sexual exploits enjoyed by a mere 1-2% of the general population, while being given the impression that "everybody's doing it....ain't it grand?". End of year exams will include requirements for detailed dissertations on the students' first homosexual encounters, undoubtedly with adults, and should include pictures. Parental input is neither required nor necessary."

2 posted on 07/19/2012 6:58:11 PM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: tsowellfan

It’s sad watching America damn itself over and over and over.


3 posted on 07/19/2012 7:00:46 PM PDT by Dogbert41 ("...The people of Jerusalem are strong, because the Lord Almighty is their God" Zech. 12:5)
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To: tsowellfan

so very wrong


4 posted on 07/19/2012 7:02:49 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: RightOnline
And worse, in some communities (not necessarily in New York) the teachers are allowed to analyze and inform the student (as young as pre-high school aged)that he is or may be “gay” if the teacher thinks the student is gay.

They claim this is to set the student off on the right direction in case the student is “confused” about his sexuality and mistakenly think that he's straight.

5 posted on 07/19/2012 7:04:53 PM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: tsowellfan

Why more of us don’t string up school system superintendents is beyond me.


6 posted on 07/19/2012 7:08:30 PM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: tsowellfan

New York’s elitists are the piggiest of them all.


7 posted on 07/19/2012 7:54:03 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: tsowellfan; EdReform; marshmallow
Homosexual perverts used to lurk in public toilets, hoping to ensnare youngsters. Police used to arrest them for it.

Now, homosexual perverts run our public schools.

The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Psalms 12:8

I keep looking up for the big asteroid.

(Youtube: Asteroid Impact HD, set to Pink Floyd’s “Great Gig in the Sky.”)

8 posted on 07/19/2012 8:21:42 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: tsowellfan

“With the ink barely dry on New York’s same-sex-marriage law, city summer-school teachers are already discussing same-sex nuptials in their civics classes, The Post has learned.

Well, they can discuss it all they want. NYC kids will probably not be interested in same-sex marriage discussions in the classroom. Hell, the majority of them aren’t interested in anything that has to to do with NYC public schools, and maybe that’s a good thing.

And the head of the state Board of Regents (a woman by the name of Meryl Tisch) said lessons on gay marriage will soon make their way into New York’s official curriculum...”

Good luck to her in implementing same sex marriage courses in NYC public schools where the kids can barely tolerate being there, much less learn about the joys of “same-sex marriage.”


9 posted on 07/19/2012 8:27:38 PM PDT by goldi
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Keep FR Running
Counter the MSM spin machine.

10 posted on 07/19/2012 8:29:25 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: tsowellfan; verga; Balding_Eagle
Another reason to homeschool.

Be prepared to be called a bully for telling the truth about government schooling. Only in the bizarro Orwellian world of government schooling is truth now called bullying.

Newspeak: Truth= Bullying.

11 posted on 07/19/2012 8:29:54 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: tsowellfan

I don’t think that a NYC student gives a damn about what a NYC public school teacher thinks about anything.


12 posted on 07/19/2012 8:37:16 PM PDT by goldi
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To: wintertime; tsowellfan; verga

No that post isn’t bullying.

But obviously I’ve identified the target.


13 posted on 07/19/2012 9:20:33 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: tsowellfan

No Child Left Behind...in being brainwashed.


14 posted on 07/19/2012 9:38:53 PM PDT by liberalism is suicide (Communism,fascism-no matter how you slice socialism, its still baloney)
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To: liberalism is suicide

“Gay” remains subject of ridicule in most high schools.


15 posted on 07/19/2012 10:37:46 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: wintertime

“Another reason to homeschool.”

Sure better than HOMO schooling!


16 posted on 07/20/2012 7:13:18 AM PDT by NEW YORKCITYGOPMAN ('he who creates something worthwhile, never dies.'')
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To: NEW YORKCITYGOPMAN; verga; Balding_Eagle
Sure better than HOMO schooling!
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Very clever! :-)

For telling the **truth** you may soon be accused of bullying. Only in the bizarro and Orwellian mind of the government school defender is truth now “bullying”.

Newspeak: Truth = Bullying

17 posted on 07/20/2012 7:23:28 AM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: wintertime

You’re making yourself look foolish, ignorant, and a bit thin skinned.

Not a good example to hold up of what homeschooling produces.


18 posted on 07/20/2012 8:03:48 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: Balding_Eagle; wintertime
You’re making yourself look foolish, ignorant, and a bit thin skinned.

Not a good example to hold up of what homeschooling produces. >/I>

Balding eagle, I like to wind wintertime up and just let him go. He says so much that turns people against his cause that it is ridiculous. He used to have quite a few that marched in lock step and now they just ignore him.

19 posted on 07/20/2012 2:31:56 PM PDT by verga (The first word in protestant is protest, just like the occupy people did.)
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To: Balding_Eagle; verga
You’re making yourself look foolish, ignorant, and a bit thin skinned
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Only in the Orwellian and bizarro mind of a government school defender is **truth** called bullying and, now, ignorant, foolish, and thin skinned.

Newspeak: Truth= bullying, ignorance, foolishness, and skin thinness

20 posted on 07/20/2012 4:22:04 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: wintertime; Balding_Eagle
It is easy to determine when wintertime has lost the argument. He resorts to 6-8 “canned” responses and doesn't deviate from them.
21 posted on 07/20/2012 4:41:36 PM PDT by verga (The first word in protestant is protest, just like the occupy people did.)
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To: verga
Truth doesn't lose an argument.

Orwellian Newspeak: Truth= lost argument

Unbelievable, except in the bizarro world of the government school defender.

22 posted on 07/20/2012 5:18:36 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: wintertime

Called it: Canned rsponse number 5


23 posted on 07/20/2012 7:57:36 PM PDT by verga (Every single cult leader has beleived in Home schooling, think about it.)
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To: wintertime

Called it: Canned response number 5


24 posted on 07/20/2012 7:57:36 PM PDT by verga (Every single cult leader has beleived in Home schooling, think about it.)
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To: verga
In how many original ways can truth be stated?

Only in the Orwellian upside down world of the government school defender is truth called a “canned response”.

Newspeak: Truth = bullying, ignorance, foolishness, thin skinned, and canned response

By the way, ....Thanks, Verga, for the opportunity to bring this article to the top of the latest post and, therefore, to the attention of Freepers who may be considering socialist-entitlement schooling for their children this August.

25 posted on 07/21/2012 7:03:41 AM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: wintertime
to the attention of Freepers who may be considering socialist-entitlement schooling for their children this August.

Not a chance--homeschooling for all of my offspring!

26 posted on 07/21/2012 7:28:13 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: wintertime
I find it interesting that when I tell the truth about your bigotry and hypocrisy you call it “Alynsky tactics” but when you make up “facts” out of whole cloth, which others less polite than me would call out right lies. You say it is Orwellian truth telling.

Curiouser and curiouser.

27 posted on 07/21/2012 10:33:14 PM PDT by verga (Every single cult leader has believed in Home schooling, think about it.)
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To: verga; tsowellfan; RightOnline; SaraJohnson; goldi; Future Snake Eater; NEW YORKCITYGOPMAN; ...
....bigotry and hypocrisy you call it “Alynsky tactics....
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Oh! Wow! Now we can add “bigotry, Alinsky tactics, and hypocrisy” to the list.

Owellian Newspeak: Truth= bullying, ignorance, foolishness, thin skinned, canned response. bigotry, Alinsky tactics, and hypocrisy

**WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE OF ALL THOSE SO-CALLED “GOOD” TEACHERS PROTESTING THIS??????!!!!!**

Prove that this article is wrong. Where are the studies and articles? The professional teachers on Free Republic should be able to link to these studies in an instant. It's their** profession**. I would think that professional teachers would be on the cutting edge of these issues.

Yeah! I am shouting. Nearly every day there are comments from the government school defenders insisting that most government teachers are “good” and don't support this. Well...Where are these “good” teachers? It's their **PROFESSION** for heaven's sake! Why aren't they out there defending their profession and the children that they claim to love so much? Where are the articles that show these unicorn-like “good” teachers protesting? Where are their websites and organizations?

Instead of well reasoned posts from the government school defenders we get snarky comments about “bullying, ignorance, foolishness, thin skinnedness, canned responses” ( and, now, bigotry,Alinsky tactics, and hypocrisy) directed at the people who are concerned about the corruption of the minds and spirits of out nation's children.

But....Hey! I personally know that as **professionals** the government teachers would never be snide with their students. They would**always** stick to the issue and defend their position with solid statistics and links and **never** dismiss a student with accusations of “bullying, ignorance, foolishness, thin skinnedness, canned responses, ( and, now, bigotry, Alinsky tactics, and hypocrisy”. Nope! A **professional** teacher would **never** do that. ( No sarc tag)

And,,,,Again...Thanks, verga, for bring this topic on the promotion in the government schools of the very dangerous perversion of homosexuality to the top of the latest articles list. It also gives me a chance to respond and to, again, bring this **HORRIFIC** practice to the attention of Freepers who may still have their kids in the government cesspools of depravity ( misnamed “public” schools).

Geeze! A few more articles like this one and taxpayers will soon associate “public” school with “public” restrooms.

28 posted on 07/22/2012 6:49:53 AM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: wintertime; tsowellfan; RightOnline; SaraJohnson; goldi; Future Snake Eater; NEW YORKCITYGOPMAN; ...
But....Hey! I personally know that as **professionals** the government teachers would never be snide with their students. They would**always** stick to the issue and defend their position with solid statistics and links and **never** dismiss a student with accusations of “bullying, ignorance, foolishness, thin skinnedness, canned responses, ( and, now, bigotry, Alinsky tactics, and hypocrisy”. Nope! A **professional** teacher would **never** do that. ( No sarc tag)

Please note that it is wintertime who is resorting to this "Alynsky tactic."

He has never once set foot in my classroom, has never seen me teach nor seen any of the prep work I do on a daily basis. He has never seen any of my interactions with students or their parents. To the best of my knowledge he has never once taught more than one or two of his own children at the high school level at a time, never mind the 20 to thirty that most of us teach. I also understand that he has never taught at the college level. His posts are made in total ignorance, save the single incidence that defines his own pitiful parenting skills. I have offered this person a list of students that he can in under his wing and demonstrate the magic powers of home schooling, and never gotten a single reply.

He has regularly ignored the fact that I and almost every other public school teacher on the FR site agrees that he system does need repair. Rather than making positive comments old winterboy continues with the snide comments about what "**professional**" teachers would and would never do. Rather than engage in legitimate debate he continually resorts to emotional arguments referring to the "Prussian model" in an attempt to make the system seem like some sort of Russian gulag system.

Over the years he has suggested that the public school teachers union be disbanded. When I asked him about the similar unions for police and firefighters I never received a reply.

Further on a previous thread one of winters truly "enlightened" fans advocated violence against a public school person. Several of us begged him to distance himself from these comments, he refused even after the mods deleted those comments.

Now I am certain that this post will draw the ire of the "great and powerful" wintertime and he will make a snide comment about Alynsky tactics for telling the truth about his history and behavior. I am also certain that he will again thank me for "moving this up in the post" oblivious to the fact that it really only appears moved up on the list of people pinged.

I truly hope that some of the more "mainstream" home school supporters whisper in wintertime's ear that he is doing your cause no good and is instead relegating this cause to the "fringe kook" corner.

29 posted on 07/22/2012 2:25:09 PM PDT by verga (Every single cult leader has believed in Home schooling, think about it.)
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To: verga
I don't think good teachers have the time to protest - we are too busy teaching. Not to mention, I've always believed that any given public school represents the more liberal side of the community from which it feeds. Therefore, a school in any red zone will be much more conservative than any school in a blue zone.

The schools reflect the community

They HAVE to do so since that is the human element in the school.

Solution? Well, it's sort of kind of easy and hard at the same time...Conservatives have to make their voices heard at the school board level. If a few citizens speaking out can get something like this passed, why can't a few conservatives get it out? As has been mentioned before though, conservatives tend to be busy, busy. If I were a homeschooler, I would STILL want the public schools to reflect conservative, traditional values and would attend meetings demanding good value for my tax dollars. Help choose textbooks and weed out the ones that don't support a conservative view. Be visible and be heard.

Others see their role differently...posting on FR is a good idea, it's just that if that is all one does, the effect is much less reaching.Then there's people like you and me Verga, we are out doing the job that others don't want to do. And doing it with a clean conscience. And doing it conservatively.

Enjoy the rest of your summer -- the battle begins soon...Stay strong!

30 posted on 07/22/2012 3:02:07 PM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: verga
I am not “great and powerful”. Truth is, though. If the above article is NOT true then please explain why it is not.

So?....Where are the studies and articles debunking the posted article? Aren't professional teachers up to date on teaching issues? Why don't we see these posts and threads?

And....Where are all the “good” teachers protesting this perversion? Good professional teachers should have immediate access to their website links, organizations, and published articles.

Please re-read my posts. I do strive not to direct my comments to any specific person ( that includes you) but address the problems of government schooling and its teachers in a **GENERAL** manner. I am not perfect, however, and if, on occasion, I have not done so, I apologize.

Finally....( With absolutely NO sarcasm )
I personally know that as **professionals** the government teachers would never be snide with their students. They would**always** stick to the issue and defend their position with solid statistics and links and **never** dismiss a student with accusations of “bullying, ignorance, foolishness, thin skinnedness, canned responses, bigotry, Alinsky tactics, and hypocrisy”. Nope! A **professional** teacher would **never** do that. ( No sarc tag)

31 posted on 07/22/2012 3:19:29 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: verga

Oh, bullshit. Grow up; both of you. I don’t care to hear about your trials and tribulations, the oh-so-tough world of public teaching. You may be an exception, but most of your peers are morons who couldn’t cut it in any other field of study in college. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together and any life experience knows it, too, so spare me.

Educrats are one of the worst problems facing families and taxpayers in American life. You picked the wrong site to defend them and their profesion.

As for “winterboy”, I don’t know ‘im, don’t care what he has to say. My ex and I homeschooled a house full of children over a period of decades; what we “produced” will and do run circles around your public school product. Don’t think you want to challenge me (or most home schoolers) on that one.

One more idiot refers to home schoolers as “fringe kook” I’ll bitch slap ‘em, I swear.


32 posted on 07/22/2012 3:29:25 PM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: verga

Forgot to add, sport.....I’d break up your teachers’ union, firefighters’ unions, police unions....ANY unions of public employees....in a New York minute. If I have to explain why, you’re on the wrong site.


33 posted on 07/22/2012 3:30:58 PM PDT by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: verga

The most useful and important work that I could be doing is to warn parents about the godless government schools. Children are saved from the government school perversion one child at a time. Only parents can do that and it is to them that I direct my message.

As for teachers: There are a few good teachers. They are the teachers who take every opportunity to persuade parents to NOT to send their precious children into the godless government schools. These teachers likely have very short careers.


34 posted on 07/22/2012 3:32:46 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: RightOnline

Our faithful neighborhood garbage collectors ( a private company) have likely saved more children’s lives than all the government teachers since the dawn of modern compulsory government indoctrination (oops! “schooling”). But....These guys, that are out there in the heat, rain, snow, and sleet, don’t expect to be given any Mother Teresa awards.


35 posted on 07/22/2012 3:39:31 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: SoftballMominVA
Solution? Well, it's sort of kind of easy and hard at the same time...Conservatives have to make their voices heard at the school board level.
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No amount of conservative input will make a socialist-entitlement into something that is NOT a socialist-entitlement. The only solution is privatization which, of course, means completely shutting down the socialist-entitlement schools and disbanding the school board.

And...ALL schools ( government owned and run, too) MUST choose between either a godless or God-centered worldview. Neither of these worldviews is religiously neutral in content or consequences. It is utterly against any conservative principle to force another citizen, through taxes and police threat, to support the indoctrination of children into a religiously non-neutral worldview. Even if the school board could be inundated with conservatives and their presence would not make the impossible possible.

As for clear conscience:

My **personal** values would not permit me to willingly seek a job with or accept a paycheck for a compulsory system of schooling that forces a government mandated NON-neutral religious worldview ( currently godless) onto another parent's child. That is my personal system of values.

36 posted on 07/22/2012 4:31:34 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: wintertime
Finally....( With absolutely NO sarcasm ) I personally know that as **professionals** the government teachers would never be snide with their students. They would**always** stick to the issue and defend their position with solid statistics and links and **never** dismiss a student with accusations of “bullying, ignorance, foolishness, thin skinnedness, canned responses, bigotry, Alinsky tactics, and hypocrisy”. Nope! A **professional** teacher would **never** do that. ( No sarc tag)

Nailed it again, you are so predictable.

37 posted on 07/22/2012 4:45:47 PM PDT by verga (Every single cult leader has believed in Home schooling, think about it.)
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To: RightOnline
Oh, bullshit. Grow up; both of you. I don’t care to hear about your trials and tribulations, the oh-so-tough world of public teaching. You may be an exception, but most of your peers are morons who couldn’t cut it in any other field of study in college. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together and any life experience knows it, too, so spare me.

come on it show us how it is done, and for the record I was saying that wintertime is relegating your group to the "Fringe kook."

38 posted on 07/22/2012 4:48:13 PM PDT by verga (Every single cult leader has believed in Home schooling, think about it.)
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To: RightOnline
FTR, I do not belong to a union. And if I could wave a magic wand, I'd have states switch from "at will" to "right to work" RTW states have very low union membership because employees cannot be forced into a union. If I lived in an 'at will' state, I have to say I'd not work in a public setting. But I don't.

An interesting aside, teacher membership in the Wisconsin teacher unions has dropped quite a bit since Walker took away the ability of unions to force teachers into the union. The unions are obviously 'concerned' about the drop and the subsequent loss of power

Things that make you go hmmm......

39 posted on 07/22/2012 6:43:41 PM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: verga

Nailed it again, you are so predictable.
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Gee! Thank you. There are only a limited number of ways to state the truth.


40 posted on 07/22/2012 8:04:37 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: wintertime

Sadly you have yet to find a way to.


41 posted on 07/22/2012 8:42:50 PM PDT by verga (Every single cult leader has believed in Home schooling, think about it.)
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To: verga

Prove me wrong. Where are the articles, the websites, the organizations, and studies that would prove that I am wrong.


42 posted on 07/22/2012 9:51:36 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: wintertime

The better question is where are the ones that prove you right?


43 posted on 07/23/2012 6:12:50 AM PDT by verga (Every single cult leader has believed in Home schooling, think about it.)
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To: verga

The leading article of this thread and of nearly every other thread that deals with government owned and run socialist-entitlement schooling. What is that? Hundreds? Thousands?


44 posted on 07/23/2012 6:25:16 AM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: verga
Thanks, again, for bumping this article to the top of the latest article page. Freepers who are considering government schooling for their children need to be warned and encouraged not to matriculate their children or to remove them immediately.
45 posted on 07/23/2012 6:27:42 AM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: verga

You are a good teacher.

What are the organization that you belong to that are protesting the homosexual agenda in the government schools? What are their websites? Where are the links to the news articles of the organizations of fellow good teachers that you belong to? What political actions are they taking? Photos? Personally, I would like to help these good teachers.


46 posted on 07/23/2012 6:32:06 AM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: tsowellfan
"We have to do it. We have to think of where to do it," said Chancellor Merryl Tisch.

"We have to think of, how we do discuss gay marriage thoughtfully, respectfully and sensitively. There has to be age-appropriateness."

No, we don't have to do it. This kind of garbage must be kept out of our schools. Cut out this crap and add some additional math time.

47 posted on 07/23/2012 6:41:51 AM PDT by Tau Food (Tom Hoefling for President - 2012)
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To: wintertime
What are the organization that you belong to that are protesting the homosexual agenda in the government schools? What are their websites? Where are the links to the news articles of the organizations of fellow good teachers that you belong to? What political actions are they taking? Photos? Personally, I would like to help these good teachers.

Other than sitting in your mothers basement in front of your computer what are you doing?

BTW I don't know if you realize it or not every post only brings it up on the person it is addressed to.

But I am sure you will ignore that fact as well, and I told you before, nothing you have to say needs to be spread out over multiple posts. Even one post of your whining is to much to bother with.

48 posted on 07/23/2012 4:42:08 PM PDT by verga (Every single cult leader has believed in Home schooling, think about it.)
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To: verga

BTW I don’t know if you realize it or not every post only brings it up on the person it is addressed to.
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Try looking it is up on latest posts.


49 posted on 07/23/2012 9:53:45 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: wintertime

BTW I don’t know if you realize it or not every post only brings it up on the person it is addressed to.
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Try looking it is up on latest posts.
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And...Here it is on latest posts.


50 posted on 07/23/2012 9:55:41 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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