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N.Korean Army Chief 'Refused to Go Quietly'(firefight: 20~30 soldiers killed)
Chosun Ilbo ^ | 07/20/12

Posted on 07/19/2012 8:57:32 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

N.Korean Army Chief 'Refused to Go Quietly'

A gunbattle broke out when the North Korean regime removed army chief Ri Yong-ho from office, leaving 20 to 30 soldiers dead, according to unconfirmed intelligence reports. Some intelligence analysts believe Ri, who has not been seen since his abrupt sacking earlier this week, was injured or killed in the confrontation.

According to government officials here, the gunbattle erupted when Vice Marshal Choe Ryong-hae, the director of the People's Army General Political Bureau, tried to detain Ri in the process of carrying out leader Kim Jong-un's order to sack him. Guards protecting Ri, who is a vice marshal, apparently opened fire. "We cannot rule out the possibility that Ri was injured or even killed in the firefight," said one source.

Choe is believed to be the right-hand man of Jang Song-taek, the uncle and patron of the young North Korean leader. He made his career in the Workers Party rather than the army. After being appointed director of the bureau, Choe repeatedly clashed with Ri, who came up as a field commander, prompting Choe to keep Ri under close watch and apparently triggering an internal probe targeting the army chief.

The military had grown tremendously in power under former North Korean leader Kim Jong-il's "songun" or military-first doctrine, and military heavyweights like Ri who grew in stature during this period were considered threats to the young North Korean leader.

"The firefight has still not been 100 percent confirmed," said a government official here. "It may take some time for us to gain a clearer picture of what happened."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: choeryonghae; gunbattle; nkorea; purge; riyongho

1 posted on 07/19/2012 8:57:48 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Hell ya!


2 posted on 07/19/2012 9:00:58 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (2008 + IN, NC, FL, VA, OH, NV o/r IA = 271EV)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; Steel Wolf; nuconvert; MizSterious; nw_arizona_granny; ...
So it begins.


Choe Ryong-hae (left) and Ri Yong-ho

3 posted on 07/19/2012 9:00:58 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

He was a dead man anyway...


4 posted on 07/19/2012 9:01:36 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Jonty30
He was a dead man anyway...

Yeah, least he died with his boots on.

5 posted on 07/19/2012 9:04:22 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The First Bystander must be removed!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

IOW, a slow day in North Korea. ;’)

Thanks TigerLikesRooster.


6 posted on 07/19/2012 9:12:24 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

I see a huge influx of family members sent to DPRK’s Kwan-li-so (their Gulags). Bastards send entire families.


7 posted on 07/19/2012 9:24:59 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Good for him! Too bad he couldn’t have iced the new limp-wristed midget ruler on his way out too.


8 posted on 07/19/2012 9:25:18 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: TigerLikesRooster

One of these days, a General is going to prevail.


9 posted on 07/19/2012 9:28:10 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: TigerLikesRooster

So an army general got replaced by a fat-butt desk jockey bureacrat. That’s good. Does he grow chias?


10 posted on 07/19/2012 9:28:38 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Public unions exist to protect the unions from the taxpaying public)
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11 posted on 07/19/2012 9:33:20 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: StAnDeliver

I just love when America’s true enemies start killing each other en mas. Right now both Korean Communists and moslem extremists are busy killing each other. I know that whomever the sitting US President is usually gets the credit, or blame for whatever happens on their watch. Good job Zero! Let’s keep these people killing each other ASAP!


12 posted on 07/19/2012 9:34:15 PM PDT by STD ([You must help] people in theĀ…feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Acting like postal workers!


13 posted on 07/19/2012 9:54:01 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: TigerLikesRooster
In time, the Fat Boy is going to sack the wrong person and they'll both end up making a premature exit. The fear, distrust and intrigue must be sky-high in Norkville.
14 posted on 07/19/2012 10:09:35 PM PDT by JPG (Whatever semantics are used, it is still a TAX.)
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To: JPG

Yep, eventually he’s going to off a “Made Man.”


15 posted on 07/19/2012 10:12:22 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Ri looks(ed) like a soldier. Choe does not so much. I wonder how many soldiers Choe had to use to oust Ri, especially since he (Choe) has little real military experience. I suspect the upper officer ranks are a bit unsettled just now.


16 posted on 07/19/2012 10:35:58 PM PDT by miele man
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To: miele man

The other feller looks like a train conductor for Disney.


17 posted on 07/19/2012 11:17:01 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch ( if you love, you will not condemn, and if you condemn, you cannot love)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Yes, he has that soft, doughboy look, doesn’t he?


18 posted on 07/19/2012 11:52:21 PM PDT by miele man
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To: TigerLikesRooster
... in the process of carrying out leader Kim Jong-un's order to sack him.

Yeah, right. Like that fat little twerp runs anything.

19 posted on 07/20/2012 1:48:04 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

What’s a ‘’hae’’ and what’s a ‘’ho’’?


20 posted on 07/20/2012 2:13:09 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: sergeantdave

Aren’t American officers also placed politically rather than by merit?


21 posted on 07/20/2012 2:40:01 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: miele man
In North Korea a double chin would be a dead giveaway of the bourgeois class but the article did say he was a political apparatchik. He's fat just like his Dear Leader.
22 posted on 07/20/2012 6:23:49 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch ( if you love, you will not condemn, and if you condemn, you cannot love)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Choe’s got a nice hat. I think I saw the same thing on a high school band major.


23 posted on 07/20/2012 10:42:26 AM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: miele man
I suspect the upper officer ranks are a bit unsettled just now.

Wonder if they are feeling like Soviet officers did during the Great Purge.
24 posted on 07/20/2012 12:14:00 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr

I would think so but to what extent in and down the ranks, I don’t have a clue. Your Wiki article on the Soviet purge is fascinating. Thanks.

My best guess until I have more information is Jong-un will purge only as many or as little as he can get by with or as many as he needs to. Just read a moment ago he [Jong-un] is now proposing to reform the NoKo economy. Since the economy has been controlled by the military under Ri Yong-ho’s control, re-gaining control over the economy is one of the main reasons for “offing” Ri. To carry out needed reforms will be a dicey proposition and will need the muscle of the military to do so. Will, or can, the military “trust” Jong-un’s motives (trust being almost non-existant in such a state)? How many troops will follow Jong-un’s lead against fellow military who resist? Really precarious situation for Jong-un, but apparently, this is being done at the urging of the Chinese.

“Unsettled” is probably an understatement on my part.


25 posted on 07/20/2012 4:57:56 PM PDT by miele man
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