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Kuhner: Arpaio probe could dwarf Watergate
The Washington Times ^ | July 19, 2012 | Jeffrey T. Kuhner

Posted on 07/20/2012 3:45:18 AM PDT by matt1

America may be facing a constitutional crisis. Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County, Ariz., has made a startling declaration: President Obama’s birth certificate is fraudulent. If true — and I stress if — then this scandal dwarfs Watergate. In fact, it would be the greatest political scandal in U.S. history.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; eligibility; fraud; naturalborncitizen; obama
question: it's obvious why the MSM wants to ignore it but why would levin, limbaugh, o'reilly, ingraham, etc. ignore it? Fox news didn't even report about arpaio's press conference the other day.
1 posted on 07/20/2012 3:45:28 AM PDT by matt1
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To: matt1
All of the Rats and most of the GOP leadership would ignore this if Obama stood on the Capitol Steps and proclaimed he was born in Kenya. Sadly, the court system has been so corrupted that it too would never allow a case to succeed in declaring Obama illegal. The only way we might get Obama out of office will be in November and Obama is going to pull everything out of the bag to try and prevent that - millions of new amnestied illegals who will be allowed to vote, massive voter ID vote fraud, Federal lawsuits against any state that attempts to clean up its voter rolls or secure the voting process, etc.
2 posted on 07/20/2012 3:58:14 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Truth29

Audio Revealed: U.S. Congress Rep. Posey Spokesman: Media Ridicule Stopping Us From Addressing Obama’s Identity Fraud

CDR Kerchner: Listen to the audio recording at the link below revealing why … the entire U.S. Congress refuses to enforce the Rule of Law and the U.S. Constitution in regards to prosecuting Obama for his criminal fraud activities before and after he entered the White House. They are afraid to even call for an investigation because someone in the major media might ridicule them. The poor babies in the entire U.S. Congress are being hog tied by Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals rule #5, fear of ridicule. Can you believe that? Suspend the Rule of Law in our nation and the U.S. Constitution because you are afraid you might be criticized in the press for launching an investigation into the SSN fraud, real estate transaction and tax fraud, forging a birth certificate, and identity theft fraud by Obama before and during his entry into the Oval Office. What has our ‘nation of laws and not men’ turned into? We have vain cry babies for leaders in the Congress. Shame on them. What despicable examples of leaders they are! Listen for yourself and find out about the cowards and appeasers of criminals and bullies our elected officials have turned into. Does Obama have dirt on all of them? Is there not an honest and brave man or woman left in Congress? Listen for yourself here:

Part 1)

http://youtu.be/r0qtkDfXez8

Part 2)

http://youtu.be/SruDHBXQQuQ


3 posted on 07/20/2012 4:07:30 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: matt1

Already posted

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2908539/posts


4 posted on 07/20/2012 4:09:30 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com/)
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To: matt1

Easy conclusion...Fear of being “tagged” as a racist or worse...”Birth’er”. The smart keep their powder dry, until we see the “whites of their eye”.

At present, the Lib’goons have control and they repeatedly threaten taking away the sole media counter-acting & retorting the lib jib.

I don’t believe RL, or ML are ignoring anything.

BOR, however, I don’t care 2 snits about or worry about that POS until he strikes a vote other than for a “DEM”. Many are fooled, but not I!

Write, call or ask BOR directly, how many R’s he has he voted for?!!!! I challenge you and other pub drones! He may be 6’13” tall but he’s far less of a person I look up to.


5 posted on 07/20/2012 4:26:01 AM PDT by RetAF_fedUP (No moral value held dear by the American people obliges public servants ever to sacrifice innocents)
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To: tsowellfan

Case in point other than Obama,Michelle Bachman who Sits on the Intelligence Committee and Sees all such secret intelligence,wants to Know If Huma Abedin,Hillarys Top Aide in the State Dept, was Investigated, before being allowed to serve in that Sensitive Position, for ties to the Muslim Brotherhood, since her Mother and other relatives are members of the Muslim Brotherhood ,a Terrorist Organization whose Goal is to Infiltrate the US government and Destroy it from within,Look at the Reaction from John McCain,Boner Head and Other REPUBLICANS! Bachman is Privy to CLASSIFIED information and she is doing her freakin Job to protect America From Infiltration of Islamic Sympathizers and is only ASKING if this woman was Vetted because of Her Familial ties to Individuals who are ACTIVE in this Organization that wants to DESTROY US! These Republicans should Resign and apologize to Michelle Bachman


6 posted on 07/20/2012 4:59:50 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: matt1
What Obama has presented to his employers, the citizens of the United States, as his certificate of live birth and his long form birth certificate are crudely manufactured. Arpaio and posse have proved it. Lord Monckton has had experts look at it and has shown, bit by bit, in a presentation recently how the long form is completely fraudulent.
Lord Monckton on Obama's Birth Certificate - May 30, 2012 - PART 1/4

Now we know why the MSM and the Dem pols ignore it.

It's not exactly clear to me why the likes of Limbaugh, Beck, Levin, Coulter, Ingraham, Medved, Hannity, Gallagher, and Hewitt have either ignored it for the most part or insulted people looking into this as "nutters". Even Breitbart poo pooed the idea. (If he had lived who knows where his thinking on the matter would have ended up.) Now Ben Shapiro is continuing the tradition at Breitbart with his apparent lack of interest, condescension, and unconvincing arguments to ignore the subject when the matter is brought up to him:
Breitbart Editor Ben Shapiro: We're Going to Vet Obama Except His Forged Selective Service Card (audio at YouTube)
Speaking of which, where is the explosive vetting of Obama that we were promised? All that seems to have died with Breitbart, unfortunately, and the Derrick Bell story sunk like a lead balloon..

Anyway, a lot of us here knew in our gut that something was wrong with candidate Obama in 2008. More than just the fact that he was an obvious leftist with radical connections throughout his life. We had few facts, but things were starting to be murmured.

I guess I can understand those in the spotlight not jumping on the bandwagon at first. Maybe it was just too hard to believe. They didn't want any backlash if it all turned out to be a hoax.

As time has gone on though, it's become clear that the man is hiding something very devastating from his past. It's no longer a gut feeling. There is documented evidence by law enforcement officials and experts that what he has presented as legitimate documents are fraudulent.

Now clearly the people like Hewitt, Medved, Beck, Coulter, O'Reilly and others that have completely slammed and insulted people like Jerome Corsi, and just regular lay people that want to know what the man is hiding, are going to have to humble themselves a lot and admit they were wrong. These are not humble people.

Then you have people like Rush, Hannity, and Gallagher who have largely ignored the issue, maybe toyed with it for a few minutes on their show once in a blue moon, but haven't come out and called people nutters like the others have. Still these guys are supposed to be fairly smart men. Ahead of us peons out here in flyover country. They would have to explain why they refused to touch this issue for 4 years when others were on to this from 2008 and before. Once again, they would have to humble themselves and none of them are humble people.

Also, it has been rumoured that some of these people were threatened early on not to touch this with a ten foot pole. It still doesn't really explain Rush to me though as he appears to be a largely autonomous entity, and I couldn't see him be threatened in such a way and have it work. Maybe I'm naive and incorrect in that assumption.

I've posted this audio via You Tube on FR before, but listen to Glenn Beck being interviewed by Denver talk show host Peter Boyles regarding the so called "birther" issue. It has just always stuck with me because Beck acted so strange in the interview when it was brought up. Later that morning he went on his own program to ridicule Boyles in his Glenn Beck way for even bringing it up to him.

The Best of Peter Boyles--THE GLENN BECK INTERVIEW & Birthers

So I would like to thank the likes of Cashill, Corsi, Arpaio and more recently Lord Monckton and others who you don't hear about as much anymore who have and are continuing to expose what a fraud this man is. These are courageous men and I appreciate what they are trying to do.

7 posted on 07/20/2012 5:18:47 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: matt1

I do not understand why SOMEONE in the New Media isn’t, at the very least, looking into this to see if it is real...I believe it is, and that King Bozo Ocelot is, in fact, a fraud...


8 posted on 07/20/2012 5:21:09 AM PDT by Shady (There is no separation of powers..they want to ace the people out...)
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To: ballplayer

I think Rep. Bachmann is right on the money...Why aren’t these questions being asked?


9 posted on 07/20/2012 5:23:28 AM PDT by Shady (There is no separation of powers..they want to ace the people out...)
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To: Shady

Too many PC politicians and bureaucrats.


10 posted on 07/20/2012 5:34:28 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: matt1
Mr. RomneyCARE has protected, AND WILL protect,
his Obama on this.

Romney: "Obama was born in the United States"

Romney: "Obama Doesn’t Need a Birth Certificate"

Romney: "The citizenship test has been passed"

11 posted on 07/20/2012 5:35:43 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Shady

What? And be called a racist?
With the entire mainstream media covering for, coddleing for and kissing the ass of this marxist punk it is political suicide to call this spade a poser.


12 posted on 07/20/2012 5:36:57 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: matt1
ABCNNBCBS = GGTV = Gangster Govt TV. They are made members. American Pravda, no more.

They can ignore Murdergate, they can ignore anything.

Sometimes, FOX is afraid of being the only channel to report a story that is "too outside the mainstream." So the news embargo by GGTV works.


13 posted on 07/20/2012 6:28:03 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: matt1

The only reason that I can think that the ‘establishment conservative commentators’ ignore the Obama BC evidence is that they want a chip in the political game involving the flood-tide of latin american immigrants entering the US.

Republican elites seem to be of like-mind with Democrats that the future balance of political power rests with spanish-speaking Americans. They want to run Marco Rubio in the worst way. Then maybe George P. Bush.

Short term those voters belong to the Democrats. But a generation from now...

I don’t agree with that thinking. The country is teetering on the brink now under Obama. If the Dems get the WH for a few more election cycles then the country is forever changed.


14 posted on 07/20/2012 6:41:51 AM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: matt1

I believe Arpaio is correct, but again we will see the liberals white wash the facts and denounce the good sheriff.

The only thing different this time is an upcoming election the commies are going to have a tough time winning. Sweep the liberals out of office regardless of their party.


15 posted on 07/20/2012 7:03:46 AM PDT by chainsaw ("Two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by debt.")
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To: beaversmom
As time has gone on though, it's become clear that the man is hiding something very devastating from his past. It's no longer a gut feeling. There is documented evidence by law enforcement officials and experts that what he has presented as legitimate documents are fraudulent.

You'd think that the "Story of the Century" would attract a reporter or 3 who might wish to win a Pulitzer and be set for life like Woodward & Bernstein. Then again, awards like the Pulitzer, Nobel Peace Prize, etc. have long ago sunk to the level of a Cracker Jack prize. Handed out by Leftists to other Leftists in order to validate their world-view.

16 posted on 07/20/2012 7:26:04 AM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: beaversmom
Also, it has been rumoured that some of these people were threatened early on not to touch this with a ten foot pole. It still doesn't really explain Rush to me though as he appears to be a largely autonomous entity, and I couldn't see him be threatened in such a way and have it work. Maybe I'm naive and incorrect in that assumption.

There have been a couple of serious moves put on Rush's advertisers. It was orchestrated most recently in the wake of the "Sandra Fluke" testimony before congress. That was so well organized, I'm sure that Rush took that as a shot across his bow.

17 posted on 07/20/2012 7:30:25 AM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: matt1
The late Secretary of State, Lawrence Eagleburger, when asked on one of the Networks what he thought of then candidate Obama stated: "he's a charlatan".


18 posted on 07/20/2012 7:58:53 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (The)
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To: matt1
I believe the truth of Obama's fraud will come out, but only after he has been thrown out of the White House in November.

Sheriff Arpaio did not say that Obama was NOT born in Hawaii, but that the birth certificate released last April was manufactured as were Obama's Draft registration documents. The question is why did someone go to such great lengths to conceal or alter Obama's past? I always thought it strange that an obscure Illinois legislator with no accomplishments of note would write not one but two autobiographies and succeed in getting them published. It is now apparent that these autobiographies were written solely to establish a heroic past life and all of the concealment of Obama's real past is so what is known about him conforms to the narrative of these autobiographies.

Is Obama some kind of Manchurian Candidate created by Bill Ayers and others on the radical left? While I do not subscribe to mass conspiracy theories, Obama did have help and money from outside sources to groom him as a political candidate, but it was only circumstance that propelled him into the presidency. Obama's bumbling as President shows that none of his outside handlers were prepared for him to go that far that quickly. The cool smooth rhetoric that got him elected is gone and what we are seeing now is the raw bare knuckle politics of the Chicago political machine that is being used in desperation to get him reelected.

How did Obama get to be POTUS? It was a combination of Hillary's being seen as unlikeable and shrill and liberals who rejoiced in having a Black man...any Black man... as a Presidential candidate. Possibly Obama's people having dirt about Hillary's lesbianism that also kept her from being the candidate. Obama's election as POTUS was the result of a sycophant media, careful handling that made Obama look cool and a leader and McCain's bumbling campaign.

19 posted on 07/20/2012 8:24:01 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: The Great RJ

I’ve thought the same thing for awhile now. He’s not smart enough to think some of this stuff up! He’s a blank slate, a complete fool, someone who’s being controlled by a group of dangerous progressives. This group is to be feared and defeated.


20 posted on 07/20/2012 8:40:54 AM PDT by Lucky2 (Obama is to be feared and defeated.)
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To: beaversmom

The reason the birther issue is a loser is..........
The President of the United States could have a birth certificate made for Alfred E. Neuman and make him appear to be or to HAVE been a real person... and Holder would support it.. and probably John Roberts as well..

This issue is a distraction.. from other issues that cannot be manipulated as easily.. like the bitch certificate thing can be..
Obama is vulnerable on a hundred issues.. why pick a loser..


21 posted on 07/20/2012 9:15:55 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: matt1

I am beginning to have a real problem with some of the conservative talkers and media people who are refusing to cover Obama Birther/Obama Eligibility.

By now, if you are not discussing Obama Birth Cert/Eligibility as one of the main issues this campaign season, you are actively helping Obama win re-election.


22 posted on 07/20/2012 9:18:27 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Romney has foreign assets.....Obama has foreign birth certifcates)
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To: beaversmom
Excellent I did not know that Lord Monckton was on the case too. Below is a link to Lord Monckton dicussing the issue. Skip the first 5 minutes or so.

click

http://www.infowars.com/lord-monckton-investigates-obamas-forged-birth-certificate/

23 posted on 07/20/2012 9:21:22 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: hosepipe

This issue is a distraction.. from other issues that cannot be manipulated as easily.. like the bitch certificate thing can be..
Obama is vulnerable on a hundred issues.. why pick a loser..


How do you know it is a loser issue? It has yet to be fully reported.

Obama does not think it is a loser issue....he has spent millions in lawyer and court fees to keep his real birth certificate from being released

If Obama was so vulnerable on a hundred issues...why isn’t Romney up by 20 points in the polls?

Too many excuses by RINOs to cover for Obama on the Birther issue. Had we taken his Birther issue seriously from day one....we could be planning for a GOP Presidential inauguration by now. Instead, we have a close race against a failed Kenyan Muslim President....who is getting cover from the opposition because they refuse to address his Eligibility/Birth Certificate


24 posted on 07/20/2012 9:28:31 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Romney has foreign assets.....Obama has foreign birth certifcates)
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To: hosepipe

You think the obozo ineligibility issue is a loser issue?
That is the heart of the matter - obozo is ineligible and there are mountains of evidences and proofs. That is the issue that will remove him form the office, null and void all that he has done/signed.
Instead you want to fight him the hard way -
** repeal obozocare (and you fail miserably)
** run an election against him - potentially failing miserably again due to his voter fraud schemes
** fight against all his ‘tranform America’ policies - fail miserably because he uses his EO, commie agencies, his zcars, his freebies to buy loyalty....

Show one issue you have successfully used to fight him!
NONE!
You leave him up there with all that power and you fight him one thing at a time, while the inelig issue would have kciked him out once and for all and free us from having to fight him 1 policy at a time!

You lose when you don’t fight him on the heart of the issue - he is not eligible but you are letting him run for election a second time!
What can be a bigger loser than letting an ineligible devil like obozo run for the presidency again?


25 posted on 07/20/2012 10:02:51 AM PDT by chrisnj
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To: matt1

bfl


26 posted on 07/20/2012 11:38:02 AM PDT by jch10 (Fail to the Chief!)
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To: hosepipe

Such a debased point of view.

Lack of courage of principle is typical of many Republicans, which is why they are useless in combating the depravity of the Democrats. You might want to reconsider placing “pragmatism” before principle; it is a point of view unmoored from principle.


27 posted on 07/20/2012 1:26:10 PM PDT by Ray76
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To: SeminoleCounty

[ If Obama was so vulnerable on a hundred issues...why isn’t Romney up by 20 points in the polls? ]

Cause fully half the United States are as corrupt as BArack Obama..
They may have different ways to destroy the United States but they fully want what BArack wants.. thats why...

To even be a democrat you are making a statement..
Many Libertarians are in fact democrats...

Democrats are folks that say or think I have my truth you have yours..
AND cannot see that makes truth an opinion..


28 posted on 07/20/2012 1:29:25 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Ray76

“unmoored from principle” - which is to say, relativism and situational ethics. Leading causes of Democrat depravity.

“Situational ethics” - an oxymoron if ever there was one.


29 posted on 07/20/2012 1:29:47 PM PDT by Ray76
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To: beaversmom

Nice post Beav’s mom.


30 posted on 07/20/2012 1:35:07 PM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: jpsb

I think Monckton is one of the best on this issue. He is funny, brilliant, and has done his homework.


31 posted on 07/20/2012 2:13:07 PM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: beaversmom

excellent post...


32 posted on 07/20/2012 3:23:49 PM PDT by matt1
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To: matt1; Triple

Thank you matt1 and triple :)


33 posted on 07/21/2012 12:04:48 AM PDT by beaversmom
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