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“Church” of Scientology Reportedly Forced Women to Have Abortions
Life News ^ | 7/19/12 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 07/20/2012 6:22:57 AM PDT by wagglebee

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To: wagglebee
They were cheerleading that Terri Schiavo die one day from dehydration and starvation. Our wonderful RINO leaders and judges meet in the restaurant at the SCI HQ forf luncheons and breakfasts. Yes, this is why and when I quit the Republican Party. THE RINOS were hooked up with the Scientologists in the fight to kill Terri.

They don't use guns. They use money to influence politicians and they use MIND CONTROL and hard labor for their non-celebs.

21 posted on 07/20/2012 8:09:24 AM PDT by floriduh voter
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To: wagglebee

It has been written that L. Ron Hubbard bought a yacht so he could do whatever to whomever in international waters. We’ll never know for certain if Tom Cruise or John Travolta are perverts but it’s been written that L. Ron Hubbard was.


22 posted on 07/20/2012 8:11:22 AM PDT by floriduh voter
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To: PapaBear3625

L. Ron Hubbard went to see in the first place to do things untoward in international waters. From that insidious way around the law, all these other sea references came into being. To begin with, it was outer space and spaceships but yachts will do when you have an itch or two.


23 posted on 07/20/2012 8:13:43 AM PDT by floriduh voter
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To: IronJack

It’s Murdoch. His tweet opened the floodgates. There is a history there with his family and he and his wife are good friends with Nicole Kidman.

What people don’t understand who have never really looked into this...well..forget it. It is hard to believe until you start really delving into the stories.

There is a psychological aspect to the beaten down Scientologist that has no where to go , is afraid, has no money, etc. Not to mention the blackmail stories and the way they get you to admit to things that never really happened. Oh, and if you leave the Sea Org you have a huge debt they say you have to pay.

There is a blind gossip column that seems to be indicating that John Travolta is ready to blow. This would explain the sudden rash of lawsuits against him .


24 posted on 07/20/2012 8:14:34 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Venturer

You clearly don’t know much about the Clams.

I do. I ended up working with a bunch of them in LA for a bit more than a year. If I’d known anything more about them before I joined the company, I wouldn’t have taken the job. As it was, I chalked it up to a “learning experience.” And boy, what I learned makes me reach for a gun if someone says they’re from the “church” of Scientology and they’re offering me something.

Yes, they do force people to do things against their will. Yes, they do use threats of violence, physical intimidation and assault on their members.


25 posted on 07/20/2012 8:17:04 AM PDT by NVDave
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From official Hubbard policy for Scientology staff The Responsibilities of Leaders :
6. When you're close to power, get some delegated to you-enough to do your job and protect yourself and your interests-for you can be shot, fellow, shot, as the position near power is delicious but dangerous, dangerous always, open to the taunts of any enemy of the power who dare not really boot the power but can boot you. So to live at all in the shadow or employ of a power, you must yourself gather and USE enough power to hold your own-without just nattering to the power to "kill Pete," in straightforward or more suppressive veiled ways to him as these wreck the power that supports yours. He doesn't have to know all the bad news and if he's a power really he won't ask all the time, "What are all those dead bodies doing at the door?" And if you are clever, you never let it be thought HE killed them that weakens you and also hurts the power source. "Well, boss, about all those dead bodies, nobody at all will suppose you did it. She over there, those pink legs sticking out, didn't like me." "Well," he'll say if he really is a power, "why are you bothering me with it if it's done and you did it. Where's my blue ink?" Or "Skipper, three shore patrolmen will be along soon with your cook, Dober, and they'll want to tell you he beat up Simson." "Who's Simson?" "He's a clerk in the enemy office downtown." "Good, when they've done it, take Dober down to the dispensary for any treatment he needs. Oh yes. Raise his pay." Or "Sir, could I have the power to sign divisional orders?" "Sure."

7. And lastly and most important, for we all aren't on the stage with our names in lights, always push power in the direction of anyone on whose power you depend. It may be more money for the power, or more ease, or a snarling defense of the power to a critic, or even the dull thud of one of his enemies in the dark, or the glorious blaze of the whole enemy camp as a birthday surprise.

Now visualize growing up in a group which uses the above as official management policy which all staff are required to read.
26 posted on 07/20/2012 9:35:16 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: NVDave
Another interesting tidbit, from an interview with Hubbard's son L Ron Hubbard, Jr:
Penthouse: Was this why you became disenchanted with Scientology?

Hubbard: It was the beginning. I began to see that my father was a sick, sadistic, vicious man. I saw more and more parallels between his behavior and what I read about the way Hitler thought and acted. I was realizing that my father really wanted to destroy his enemies and take over the world. Whoever was perceived as his enemy had to be destroyed, including me. This "fair game" policy since the beginning. The organization couldn't exist without it. It keeps people very quiet.

Penthouse: Do you mean killed?

Hubbard: Well, he didn't really want people killed, because how could you really destroy them if you just killed them? What he wanted to do was to destroy their lives, their families, their reputations, their jobs, their money, everything. My father was the type of person who, when it came to destruction, wanted to keep you alive for as long as possible, to torture you, punish you. If he chose to destroy you, he would love to see you lying in the gutter, strung out on booze and drugs, rolling in your own vomit, with your wife and children gone forever: no job, no money. He'd enjoy walking by and kicking you and saying to other people, "Look what I did to this man!" He's the kind of man who would pull the wings off flies and watch them stumble around. You see, this fits in with his Scientology beliefs, also. He felt that if you just died, your spirit would go out and get another body to live in. By destroying an enemy that way, you'd be doing him a favor. You were letting him out from under the thumb of L. Ron. Hubbard, you see?


27 posted on 07/20/2012 11:25:53 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: IronJack
I think Scientology is a moonbat pseudo-religion at best. But does anyone else get the feeling that this noise about it lately is part of some organized attack? I mean, the Scientology loons have been part of the cultural scene for decades. Why all this vitriol all of a sudden? Somebody not paying off the media anymore? Did the donation well dry up for Obozo and his Flying Circus? Did someone criticize a fag or someone important?

It's a war. With people who have a lot of money (scientologists). You see... they found out that when Sharia Law is fully implemented, scientology will not be permitted as a religion.

28 posted on 07/20/2012 11:32:04 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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Actually they have been known to threaten people. Like most cults they will ostracize you and disown you. If you belong to a large cult and your family belongs it can be very painful.

Reminds me of the Mafia and family ties back to Sicily.

29 posted on 07/20/2012 11:34:09 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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I guess we learn something new every day.
I knew Scientologists were crazy, but had no idea they excercised this much power over people.

One would have to be insane to join such a cult and even crazier to stay after they discovered the threats.

They must be almost as crazed as Muslims.

I am surprised some despondent member hasn’t blown some of them away.


30 posted on 07/20/2012 12:27:31 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer
I am surprised some despondent member hasn’t blown some of them away.

It happens, like this incident in Portland. Mostly, they try very hard to detect such people and keep them out of the organization.

31 posted on 07/20/2012 12:53:13 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: Venturer
One would have to be insane to join such a cult and even crazier to stay after they discovered the threats. They must be almost as crazed as Muslims.

Consider the number of people who are Communists, despite the documented evidence of what Communism does.

32 posted on 07/20/2012 12:56:14 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: Venturer

From my non-professional assessment of the people sucked into the cult of Scientology, they fall into two distinctly different groups:

1. The people who have experienced a life crisis - drug addiction, a cheating spouse, divorce, bankruptcy, etc. They look for something to latch onto in life during a time of duress and the “church” is there, offering all manner of support... in return the church starts to use them as “fresh meat” to garnish their earnings, use as nominal slave labor, etc.

2. Celebutards, who are recruited into the church in a completely different manner. Celebs are used to put a respectable public face on the clams’ operations and they’re treated completely differently. Hubbard viewed celebs much as Lenin viewed “useful idiots” - gullible dupes used to further the ultimate ends of the scheme.

Now, here’s why so many people stay after they start to realize the truth:

Scientology uses a technique called “auditing.” This is like a confessional, but with an inquisitor who is probing for all manner of very personal, embarrassing information. The “auditor” then writes all this down and this information is stored by the clams for use against their members, should they start to cause problems.

Crazed as muslims? I don’t know. But the clams are plenty nuts, and not in a charming way.


33 posted on 07/20/2012 8:34:01 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: floriduh voter

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34 posted on 07/20/2012 9:35:55 PM PDT by Morgana (This space for rent. Cheap.)
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