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Exclusive: Contra ABC News, Dark Knight Shooting Suspect James Holmes Could Be Registered Democrat
Big Government ^ | July 20, 2012 | Joel B. Pollak

Posted on 07/20/2012 9:39:34 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

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To: Uncle Slayton

Fast and Furious


51 posted on 07/20/2012 10:13:07 AM PDT by Califreak (The tree is almost dead)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“Holmes was a student at the University of Colorado School of Medicine in Denver until last month, spokeswoman Jacque Montgomery said. She did not know when he started school or why he withdrew.”

http://www.chron.com/news/article/Official-Shooting-suspect-was-former-med-student-3721906.php


52 posted on 07/20/2012 10:13:50 AM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: Carbonsteel

Sure but this would pretty much nip it in the bud.


53 posted on 07/20/2012 10:15:06 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Why do you seek the living among the dead? (Luke 24:5))
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Fast & Furious???


54 posted on 07/20/2012 10:20:27 AM PDT by conservativesister
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To: frankenMonkey

Let’s use one of their tropes:

“We don’t know of the shooter is an Obama campaign worker, nor do we know if he is also an OWS participant. We just don’t know.”

“We also don’t know of Brian Ross of ABC is a child molester and a serial importuner of farmyard animals. We jsut don’t know”


55 posted on 07/20/2012 10:20:42 AM PDT by Noumenon (I will not pay the Obama jizya.)
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To: Carbonsteel

I saw Obummer’s televised (live) statements on ABC-TV about 45 minutes ago.

Obama’s comments were enough to make you fall asleep. Boring, disconnected and largely nonsensical.

Then Brian Ross and George Stuffin’ Envelopes came on the TV, and Brian Ross retracted his earlier TEA Party statement and stated that the James Holmes who is in the Colorado TEA Party is a different James Holmes and NOT the shooter.

I hope the TEA Party James Holmes sues the crap out of these two ABC idiots.


56 posted on 07/20/2012 10:24:55 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (January 20, 2013.....The End of an Error)
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To: libstripper
Interesting. Quite possibly a member of the radical academic left. Mao, remember, started his career as a librarian. Most of the leading Bolsheviks in the time of Lenin were also serious academic and literary types. If this guy was one of the most radical OWS “black” (no insults intended or implied to any African-americans) protesters, it could also fit.

I would further postulate that this Ph.D candidate may have direct links to Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, and thus to Barry the Boob Soetoro by confirmed political and social association back in Chicago.

I mean...since we're casting about for links from the shooter to this and that, don'cha know? Just playing journalist, like our friends in the LSM.
57 posted on 07/20/2012 10:24:59 AM PDT by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: Free ThinkerNY

58 posted on 07/20/2012 10:25:38 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: conservativesister

Tenants at his apartment building described him as a recluse, and said he would not acknowledge people when they said hello. Residents believe he was a fourth-year medical student.
He is not expected in court until Monday.

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_21118947/police-search-apartment-suspected-gunman-deadly-aurora-shooting


59 posted on 07/20/2012 10:25:49 AM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: napscoordinator
People were upset that ABC news was saying the kid could have been a Tea Partier and now we are doing the same thing. This should not have anything at all to do with politics and show what it really is. A kid who is sick in the head PERIOD.

There is a difference between pointing out that the killer is an OWSer & demonrat(if that does turn out to be confirmed) to dispute the false narrative that's he's a tea-partier and saying that this proves all OWSers and demonrats are mad-dog killers. That's the leap the mainstream media take, but I'm not seeing that here.

60 posted on 07/20/2012 10:26:15 AM PDT by mykroar (October race riots bring November martial law.)
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To: Noumenon
Speculation is mounting across the Internet and on social media that the shooter could be, indeed, an active supporter of Barack Obama. An avalanche of postings on Twitter, Facebook and many political 'blogs' are fueling this speculation. If true, this speculation could spell ruin for the Obama campaign."
61 posted on 07/20/2012 10:26:43 AM PDT by frankenMonkey (will do graphics for food...)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I’m sure the media will now be looking into every aspect of the wrongly accused James Holmes’ life (parking tickets, late bill payments, etc.) for having the audacity to belong to the Tea Party and making a journalist look bad.


62 posted on 07/20/2012 10:26:52 AM PDT by wrcase
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I think it’s a shame that we conservatives and 2nd amendment supporters need to be searching for the background of these nuts each time an incident like this happens.

Unfortunately, we are forced to do so because of the repugnant, vile media who spews the same filth every time a shooting occurs.


63 posted on 07/20/2012 10:27:30 AM PDT by woweeitsme
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To: Deo volente

A Denver television station reports they have spoken to his mother in San Diego. She says her son recently moved to Colorado to pursue a Ph.D.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/31289583/detail.html

Wow, so he was a college student, I didn;t know Teat Party people belived in edumahcation....

/sarc


64 posted on 07/20/2012 10:28:10 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: dfwgator
"Got the bubble-headed bleached-blonde, comes on at five,
She can tell you 'bout the shooting, with a gleam in her eye,
'It's Rush's fault that people died!'
we need Dirty Laundry!"
65 posted on 07/20/2012 10:28:41 AM PDT by Old Sarge (We are now officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet)
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To: Deo volente

[ “Holmes was a student at the University of Colorado School of Medicine in Denver until last month, spokeswoman Jacque Montgomery said. She did not know when he started school or why he withdrew.” ]

When people Radicalize they “withdraw” from life paths and spiral into madness.

Now to find out what FORM of Radicalization they pursued...if any...


66 posted on 07/20/2012 10:29:17 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: All

I knew to separate the bull from the crap all I had to do was go to freerepublic.


67 posted on 07/20/2012 10:29:26 AM PDT by Terry Mross ( To kin and former friends: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: SaraJohnson
The motivation of the shooter does matter.

I'd wager the shooter is someone who recently began showing symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia.

In which case, his motivations are irrelevant, as are his politics, opinions or those of his parents prior to the schizophrenic break.

68 posted on 07/20/2012 10:31:01 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Free ThinkerNY
ABC News' Brian Ross and George Stephanopoulos should be fired immediately.

Such shameless partisan hacks have NO place in the media.

Good God. At least 12 people are dead and these two a**hats are trying to score political points by defaming a majority of Americans?!

69 posted on 07/20/2012 10:31:04 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Deo volente

“She did not know when he started school or why he withdrew.”

Uhhh, WRONG ANSWER, Ms. Mouthpiece. That would be EXTREMELY easy to determine. What is it with these spokes-people???!!!


70 posted on 07/20/2012 10:31:47 AM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: napscoordinator
People were upset that ABC news was saying the kid could have been a Tea Partier and now we are doing the same thing.

ABC tries to hang the shooting around the neck of the Tea Party and Breitbart goes out and finds out the nutter may actually be registered as a Democrat. In what universe is it wrong for Breitbart to report actual facts that contradict the propaganda being put out by ABC? Or maybe you just think it is wrong because you believe Americans are too stupid to understand why Breitbart is doing what it is doing?

71 posted on 07/20/2012 10:32:50 AM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: GraceG

Wonder if Barry will forgive his student loans?

Will Holder fly in to defend one of Barry’s Boys?


72 posted on 07/20/2012 10:33:10 AM PDT by Kozy (Calling Al Gore)
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
Yes they do.

Look at OWS, hyping Treyvon Martin, constantly stirring the racial pot, the list goes on and on and on.

73 posted on 07/20/2012 10:33:30 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Califreak

I heard that ABC has “apologized” for the Holmes link with Tea Party. All I have to say to that is SORRY DON’T CUT IT!


74 posted on 07/20/2012 10:34:57 AM PDT by GoldwaterCountry (Viva Reagan Revolucion!)
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To: Strategerist

I would guess that you are correct.

However, the media, Obama administration will tie the guy’s motivation to a group of political enemies - perferably the Tea Party. The same enemies Obama has classified as domestic terrorists - you and me.

So it matters who he was hanging out with when this happened because guilt by association is the way it is.


75 posted on 07/20/2012 10:35:16 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: frankenMonkey
If true, this speculation could spell ruin for the Obama campaign.

"From your mouth to Allah's ear."


76 posted on 07/20/2012 10:36:59 AM PDT by Old Sarge (We are now officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

And how is this different from ABC suggesting he is a Tea Party member?


77 posted on 07/20/2012 10:37:16 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: GraceG

Well, I figure the Moose would want him to at least finish his degree...IIRC the former head of al-Qaeda in Egypt was a pediatrician, and all the 9/11 hijackers had college degrees...


78 posted on 07/20/2012 10:37:49 AM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: SaraJohnson

someone above called this shooter “sick”... now that does bug me..

it’s possible he’s insane, it’s also possible he is evil, or both.


79 posted on 07/20/2012 10:39:34 AM PDT by Chuzzlewit
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To: chessplayer

The most effective response to biased idiocy isn’t equally biased idiocy in the opposite direction.


80 posted on 07/20/2012 10:39:47 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: dfwgator

It matters because the Obama administration and the media will make it matter to their political advantage if they can get away with a big lie.

They are already falsely claiming on television he’s a Tea Party guy and they do this because they have named conservatives as domestic terrorists in Homeland inSecurity and conservatives are the ones who protect the second amendment they want to ban. Guilt by political assocaition is the name of the game for the Left.

Who he was associating with politically when he launched this violence should not matter, but it does. That is life in the ‘narrative’ hell of the left. We can not mount a high horse and unilaterally disarm. We have to deal what what is real.


81 posted on 07/20/2012 10:41:09 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: oldbrowser
His political affiliation doesn't matter.

Historically, Marxists cornered the market on violence. They were bombing in America. In the early 1900's, the US government had the good sense to deport them. Now we have them in the White House. Markist bomber (SDS) Bill Ayers is O's pet. Political affiliation is most decidedly relevant.

The fact is that he is an American who was driven to this.

Driven! How? Are you saying that old liberal canard, "we are all responsible?"

83 posted on 07/20/2012 10:45:55 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: AU72
If they come after us with a bat we should counter with a bigger bat.

Something more than a ding-bat, anyway.

Where were you, George Zimmerman, now that we really needed you?

84 posted on 07/20/2012 10:46:28 AM PDT by imardmd1 (.40 warned is forearmed)
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To: IMR 4350

Yes, I just think it sounds immature to post that the shooter is a democrat...like so what. The point hear is what drove this nut to do this and also for all good citizens to be armed! Now! Screw the illegal laws! The bureaucrats that put illegal gun control laws in local districts can go to hell if they wish. How dare they try and make us sitting ducks! We need to rise up and defend our liberties here. The devil is in the details and he knows that he wants us dead, period. Let’s roll.


85 posted on 07/20/2012 10:46:57 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: SaraJohnson

Ok, I see what you’re saying...it shouldn’t matter, but it does.


86 posted on 07/20/2012 10:48:01 AM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Now the media is saying the shooter was a medical student in Denver studying neurology. They say he withdrew from medical school last month.


87 posted on 07/20/2012 10:49:33 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (January 20, 2013.....The End of an Error)
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To: napscoordinator

He is not a kid


88 posted on 07/20/2012 10:50:07 AM PDT by reefdiver (Shoeless John Roberts, An American Tragedy.)
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To: Deo volente
A Denver television station reports they have spoken to his mother in San Diego. She says her son recently moved to Colorado to pursue a Ph.D.

Hmmmm. I think I'm sensing some deja vu here.


89 posted on 07/20/2012 10:50:58 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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To: Frank_2001

Police at his apartment in Aurora say the explosives there are very sophisticated, and they may be there for days. Five other buildings have been evacuated.

http://www.daily-times.com/ci_21118451/police-say-shooters-apt-bobbytrapped-may-be-here

This guy is a medical student and has the time and know-how to build sophisticated explosive devices?! Where did he get all the weapons and ammunition? I want to know who his associates are. He can’t be working alone.


90 posted on 07/20/2012 10:51:34 AM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: dfwgator
It matters because almost everything in life that makes the news is political or can be made political and all big shootings are usually made political by the left so the right better figure out the motive quickly and turn it on them.

Besides unless it is for revenge most mass murders or assignations are done in the name of politics or religion and if you look at history done by islam or the left.

91 posted on 07/20/2012 10:51:54 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: dfwgator

The left would have us believe that motivations don’t matter. They want us to believe that e.g. when fanatical muslims indulge in ‘sudden Jihad syndrome’ it was just a lone act of madness.

It is not. The death-machine religion we know as ‘Islam’ is explicitly at fault.

Its the same for these Black Bloc OWS-ers who teach themselves that people are ‘the masses’ or ‘the proles’ and that right-wingers are evil. Yes they are crazy - but *their ideology must share the blame*.

They teach themselves a lurid cocktail of government-subservient anarchy. They reduce people down to “1%” hate-symbols They abolish morals - and the predictable results are murders and violence.


92 posted on 07/20/2012 10:55:31 AM PDT by agere_contra
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“The University of Colorado Denver - Aschutz Medical Campus can confirm that Holmes was in the process of withdrawing from the University of Colorado Denver’s graduate program in neurosciences,” the university released on Friday.


93 posted on 07/20/2012 10:56:05 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
Political affiliation is most decidedly relevant.

Very true.

Pol Pot, Adolph Hitler, William Ayers, Joesph Stalin, James Earl Ray, Mao Tse Tung, Lee Harvey Oswald, Ted Kennedy...

That's just a tiny snapshot of the murderous left.

94 posted on 07/20/2012 10:57:46 AM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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He/She that hesitates

..... loses bigtime:

- OKC Murrah Building bombing blamed on Rush

- Atlanta Bomber blamed on security guard (ABC sued!)

- Arizona shooter blamed on Sarah Palin

(this OWS/Black Bloc registered democrat ObamaBot bastard (wearing a mask?) had no intention of being IDed or caught)

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95 posted on 07/20/2012 11:03:32 AM PDT by devolve (-------------- ------- no servers - no intelligence ----------- ---------------------)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I blame Sarah Palin - either her or Bush/Cheney.


96 posted on 07/20/2012 11:05:34 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
Driven! How? Are you saying that old liberal canard, "we are all responsible?"

Did you read what I wrote?
The marxists have purposely pitted groups of Americans against each other through their rhetoric.
Black V. White, Rich V. Poor, Women V. Men, Corporations V. Labor.
The result is that some nut may have been influenced to violence against innocent movie goers.

It is Obama's fault.

97 posted on 07/20/2012 11:05:53 AM PDT by oldbrowser (As long as Obama's records are sealed, any discussion of Romney's past is off limits.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

James Holmes

(Source: http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_21118947/police-search-apartment-suspected-gunman-deadly-aurora-shooting?refresh=no)

98 posted on 07/20/2012 11:06:25 AM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: napscoordinator; Ace of Spades; gdani; dfwgator; ScottinVA

I have to differ with you, napscoordinator and the other people on here who say that doesn’t matter.

It DOES matter. The problem is, we may take the “high road” and make a distinction between the person, the act, and political persuasion, but I guarantee you, THEY will not.

Not only will they link the person, the act, and the political leanings of the perpetrator together, they will unfailingly do it to the detriment of anything to the right of Nancy Pelosi, REGARDLESS of the facts.

We saw it already, if accounts are to be believed. A major news outlet already tied the perpetrator to the right.

Even if they came out ten minutes later and said they were mistaken, it is the equivalent of an above the fold banner on the New York Times followed by a one sentence retraction (if even that) on page 9, buried in the classifieds.

And you know, no matter what, there will be a majority of liberals who will screw their foreheads in puzzlement when presented with the truth, who will mutter (and still believe it in their hearts) “Well, they said the guy was a Tea Party disciple on the news...that was all I ever heard...”

A lie travels around the world before the truth gets its trousers on.

As for the people who claim there are nuts on both sides of the political spectrum, I cannot disagree with that, but the right cannot hold a candle to the left when when it comes to violence. And that is a fact.

The reason I think it is important, is because we are in a fight for our country, and I believe we are losing. We are losing on every front. Conservatives are holding their fingers in the dikes on one side, and on the other side is a vast body of water composed of committed liberals, good hearted but misguided people, and people who don’t give a damn and go along with all the rest.

That body of people provides a persistent, relentless, erosive and destructive pressure on the other side of the dike. We have to be vigilant and ready to fight 24 x 7. One lapse, and socialized healthcare starts leaking through. Fall asleep for a second, and homosexuals in the military are authorized to march in uniforms in homosexual parades. Look away for an instant, and the Law of the Sea treaty passes.

They don’t have to be on guard. They can sleep, go on vacation and enjoy themselves. When they return to apply more hydraulic pressure on the dike, it is as if they never left. It is a one-way ratchet in the wrong direction.

I don’t think we can afford to cede ground to them, because we don’t get it back. Everything so far that has been lost, stays lost and ruined.

I believe that we have to recognize that they don’t observe any rules, except one: Any means are justified by the end.

To the Left, that is a blanket rule the overrules every single other rule. Concepts, guidelines and rules of government, morality, religion and decency all are subjugated to the end, and rationalized by the left. How many times have you heard leftists use the quote (from Robespierre or Stalin depending on whom you belive) “You can’t make an omlette without breaking a few eggs.”? The possibility that it could be either Stalin or Robespierre wouldn’t faze liberals a bit. In their minds, the omlette is tyranny, and the eggs are anything that stands in their way.

I admit, I am conflicted. I cannot bring myself to play by their rules, and am not going to just have a knee jerk reflex that says it was a liberal that did this, simply because they said it was a conservative.

But, I am not yet willing to surrender the field to them on matters like this. We don’t have to engage in falsehoods. But we should be willing to speak the truth.


99 posted on 07/20/2012 11:06:48 AM PDT by rlmorel ("The safest road to Hell is the gradual one." Screwtape (C.S. Lewis))
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James Holmes

San Diego high school yearbook photo of suspect James Holmes

100 posted on 07/20/2012 11:07:47 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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