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America's Most Biblically-Hostile US President (Through Feb, 2012/chronology REPOSTED)
Wallbuilders.com ^ | 2 February, 2012 | David Barton

Posted on 07/20/2012 2:49:01 PM PDT by RitaOK

1. Acts of hostility toward people of Biblical faith:


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KEYWORDS: davidbarton; obama; religioushostility; sisterwivesattack; spiritofantichrist; wallbuilders; whenmittbotsattack
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet; Jim Robinson; Finny; Kevmo

“HEY, you delusional, HATE-FILLED, Paul-Bot, I’m sick and tired of you peurile, so called “Christians” who stand on our so called “Principles” making scurilous accusations that Romney is as not MORE eeevil, dangerous, and a threat to our Republic)absent one scintilla of evidence either through “MITT’S” (own) words and deeds or record as opposed to the MOUTAIN of evidence we have about (he who you and your Ilk appear to want to see reelected) The FASCIST, Commie, Islamic/Muslim Brotherhood appeasing/defending/supporting Dear Leader.”

First of all...where in the world did you get the idea that I even remotely supported or support Ron Paul??? I loath libertartians. Besides Romney, Ron Paul is one person I would NEVER vote for.

In regards to Romney’s record. You must be totally out of touch with what is posted on this forum. There is post after post of documented material on what a poor governor Romney was and how he was pro-abortion, pro-homosexual, a gun grabber, and a big government statist. The owner and founder of this forum has repeatedly posted material against Romney. So, IF you are too lazy to research, I’m not doing it for you.

Also, don’t post PRO-ROMNEY crap on this forum. This IS NOT a place for pro-Romney anything. IF you keep it up, then I suspect you may get zotted!

Also, don’t use extreme profanity...even in abreviations. It is against forum rules.


22 posted on 07/20/2012 8:57:10 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

“Do you believe a born and raised Marxist/Muslim who hates this country is better than a Mormon who loves this country?”

I agree that Mr. Obama has animosity towards this country, but I don’t see any evidence that Romney “loves” his country. Did Romney ever serve a day of military service? Have any of his sons? No evidence of “love of country” with him. Devout Mormons are loyal first and formost to their prophet in Salt Lake City. That is fact.


23 posted on 07/20/2012 9:02:29 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sola Veritas

The simple truth is that if you do not vote for the Republican nominee, even if it is the despised Mitt Romney, you are de facto casting a vote for Obama. I wish it weren’t true but unfortunately it is.

The Democrats will do all they can, and that is plenty, to steal this election just as they did in 2000 and 2004. They almost succeeded both times. This time they are even more corrupt and in many states are using electronic voting machines supplied by a rich Obama supporter.

Every vote counts, including yours.


24 posted on 07/21/2012 2:17:39 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot
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To: Mind-numbed Robot; Jim Robinson; finney; Kevmo

“The simple truth is that if you do not vote for the Republican nominee, even if it is the despised Mitt Romney, you are de facto casting a vote for Obama. I wish it weren’t true but unfortunately it is.”

You ABO fools keep saying that over and over. To repeat the same lie NEVER makes it true. A vote for another candidate than Obama or Romney...IS NOT a de facto vote for Obama.

I do not know when you ABO cowards that despoil FR will shut up and go away. Your sell out thinking is passe...and so are you.

Eventually, Jim Robinson will get his fill of your nonsense, and zot you from the forum. Either get on board with the revolution to take back the GOP or go elsewhere. Whatever, STOP spewing the same lie. A vote is vote....there is NO SUCH THING as a de facto vote for Obama. The ONLY way one can vote for Obama, is to actually vote for him. All other talk is sophistry. It is actually conservative heresy. I admire Jim Robinson because he can see this.

Also, I don’t care IF you think the Demoncrats are stealing the election....that is there normal behavior. The point, which is fail to grasp, is that Romney (with GOPe help) has STOLEN the GOP nomination. He is NOT remotely conservative and his election, even against Obama, will destroy conservatism in the GOP. Romney cannot be allowed to win with the help of conservatives.


25 posted on 07/21/2012 3:21:08 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot; Jim Robinson

A direct quote of Jim Robinson that you need to read and heed before you again say not voting for Romney is a “defacto vote for Obama” - that trash is getting old:

“Give it a rest. No abortionists, no homosexualists, no gun grabbers, no mandate loving big government statists. If the GOP wants my vote, they can run a conservative. Until then, they can KMA!” Jim Robinson


26 posted on 07/21/2012 3:34:56 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sola Veritas

Thanks for the ping.

What they call ‘simple truth’ is neither simple nor truth.

Eventually, Jim Robinson will get his fill of your nonsense, and zot you from the forum.
***Not soon enough. Look at the damage these republican faux conservatives have done to conservatism. For every vote they gain by hounding us, they dismay more than a hundred conservatives. I do not understand why JimRob allows it.


27 posted on 07/21/2012 6:45:36 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Kevmo

“I do not understand why JimRob allows it.”

Because he is a good soul that doesn’t want to boot unless absolutely necessary. He declared a “truce” earlier this year to allow ABO persons to post (for a short time this was supposed to be - in my words - a Romney free zone.) The idea being that a great many “conservatives” were genuinely afraid of 4 more years of Obama and therefore chose to vote for Romney. However, as I understood him, they were to stick with that “anybody but Obama” would be better. They weren’t supposed to actually campaign for Romney. I’m not seeing that much anymore. They are now actually attempting to say how “good” Romney will be. Many, not all, are failing to state they know Romney isn’t much better. The sad truth is, I believe, that many were closet Romney supporters that now are pushing him openly. FR has long been a “Romney Free zone” long before the primaries devolved into a farce.

Remember though, this is my “spin” and perception of what happened. I could have gotten the whole thing wrong.


28 posted on 07/22/2012 9:39:32 AM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sola Veritas

Because he is a good soul that doesn’t want to boot unless absolutely necessary.
***Well, I agree with that.

He declared a “truce”
***It seems to have unravelled.

earlier this year to allow ABO persons to post (for a short time this was supposed to be - in my words - a Romney free zone.) The idea being that a great many “conservatives” were genuinely afraid of 4 more years of Obama and therefore chose to vote for Romney. However, as I understood him, they were to stick with that “anybody but Obama” would be better. They weren’t supposed to actually campaign for Romney.
***They are way past campaigning for Romney when they denigrate conservatives.

The sad truth is, I believe, that many were closet Romney supporters that now are pushing him openly. FR has long been a “Romney Free zone” long before the primaries devolved into a farce.
***I basically doubt they were Rombots all along. They are Republicans who instinctively vote for whoever has an R in front of their name. They cannot understand why we don’t see it that way. To them it’s a “simple truth” but to us it is neither simple nor true, and neither is this a republican website. That always seems to get overlooked, time and time again.


29 posted on 07/22/2012 4:01:15 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Sola Veritas; Kevmo; Jim Robinson

I have been here 14 years, almost from the beginning. I have been with Jim Robinson 3 times in Texas. The last was when we were counter-protesting Cindy Sheehan in Crawford, Texas. I was here when Jim and his son, John, were designing and writing the code for FreeRepublic. Then if someone left a tag open at the end of HTML instructions each post after that was afflicted with that previous HTML.

I was here when Hillary sicced her media bulldogs on FR and Jim was sued by most of the major media in this country for copyright infringement. Despite the fact that what we do here is clearly in accord with the Fair Use Doctrine, a liberal judge found Jim guilty and fined him $1,000,000. That was raised by fund raisers here on FR.

Did you guys contribute? I did! For that matter, are you guys at present monthly contributors? I am!

I remember that Alamo Girl kept a very detailed record record of all the evidence gathered about Bill and Hillary Clinton. FR was a goldmine of infortmation about the Clinton impeachment and disbarment.

Were you guys here then? I was!

Sola, on yourt personal page you claim to be a Christian. Jesus said, “Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbor as thyself.” You show zero respect for me, your FR neighbor, much less love. I suspect you are not as much a beleiver as you claim to be.

I have noticed that I seldom see many old friends here now days. I know they haven’t been barred so I surmise they left on their own. With posters like you guys I have decided to join them. Jim, please take the steps to cancel my monthly $20.00 contributions at the FR end and will stop them with my bank.


30 posted on 07/23/2012 5:20:13 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

I have been here 14 years,
***I’ve been signed up longer than you. Are you a conservative? Why would a conservative try to convince other conservatives to part with their principles to vote for a Librul? It does not matter; such an act in and of itself is not conservative.

Did you realize over those 14 years that FR is not a republican website? It is a conservative website.


31 posted on 07/23/2012 6:30:27 AM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot; Kevmo; Jim Robinson

“Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbor as thyself.”

Like so many “armchair”, you take one verse of scripture and twist it to mean what you want it to mean. Let me give you a clue about that verse. Is it a loving thing to allow a neighbor standing in traffic to be run over? Of course not, you at least warn him. Romney is an insidious evil that requires folks to be warned about. That is all I am doing.

You stand in traffic with Romeny driving recklessly towards you, but you are so focused on Obama that is an even more obvious reckless driver on the same road, you fail to see Romney. I warn you an other, but you call me “unloving.”

There is NOTHING loving about failure to warn.

You worry about Obama’s ties to Islam. A most definite danger. However, although he is soft towards Islam, he is not hardcore Islamic....he just leans that way. Dangerous -yes, should be revoved from office - yes. Is he a hard core Islamist - no. Romney is, however, a hard core Mormon. Mormonisn IS NOT CHRISTIANITY anymore than Jehovah Witnesses are. That makes him an insidious evil that threatens REAL Christianity and the spritual welfare of the nation. Should he be elected he WILL have a bad influence on the nation by misleading many towards Mormonism as an answer....it is not.

Now, and even more important, from this forum’s perspective, is that Romney is NOT a true conservative. IF he gets in office he will so pervert “conservatism” so that folks will no longer no what the real thing is. Obama is an obvious evil that motivates good people to stand against him. Romney will lull “good” people in to complaincency. That is also dangerous. So, I warn peole about that.

Romney’s record on abortion, homosexual, etc. have all be clear and there for folks to see. However, they are so focused on Obama they don’t see the evil Romney is. So, I warn them.

Voting for Romney is just continuing to the same problem that caused him to be the nominee. It is allowing a narrow group in the GOPe to call ALL the big calls for the party. The rest of us have to be compliant because we have no where else to go. Thus, we keep getting stuck with his ilk.

Standing up to the GOPe is a noble cause, and takes bravery because there is risk involved. However, not standing up create more risk to the survival of consevatism.

Friend, if you want to vote for Romney. I won’t criticise you for doing so. However, when you come on FR and criticise those of us, who along with JR, chose NOT to support him. You have stepped over a line.

I don’t think Jim Robinson can be “bought” by you with your donations anymore than he could be by myself.

I believe (my opinion) is that Jim Robinson was loyal to old companions like yourself and very hesistant to toss you out because he knows that in the long run, you can be counted on to fight along side him. However, this extreme ABO hysteria is really out of control. Especially when you accuse those conservatives that oppose the GOPe usurpation as “de facto Obama supporters.” That is just too far to go.


32 posted on 07/23/2012 9:34:55 AM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

I’m very sorry to lose you, but I cannot bring myself to support Romney who for more than thirty years of his adult life (by his own admission) advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America. He explained that he had believed that since 1970 when his mother ran for the Senate on that platform. Also, he claimed that since Roe v Wade had been in existence for twenty years, it was settled law and should be sustained and supported as such and swore to do so. That plus the fact that he boasted that he would be better for gay rights than Ted Kennedy. And proved it. And the fact that he advocated for and signed into law a socialized healthcare program that eventually morphed into ObamaCare and is now threatening to end constitutionally limited government in America with the traitors on the Supreme Court upholding it. Romney’s entire career was that of a leftist liberal progressive. I cannot support the man. I cannot support the GOP’s sudden lurch to the left.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OQoBxZZPqU&feature=player_embedded


33 posted on 07/23/2012 10:09:06 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot; Sola Veritas
The simple truth is that if you do not vote for the Republican nominee, even if it is the despised Mitt Romney, you are de facto casting a vote for Obama.

A vote is vote....there is NO SUCH THING as a de facto vote for Obama. The ONLY way one can vote for Obama, is to actually vote for him. All other talk is sophistry.

^ CORRECT. ^

Solas' statement, being both intellectually honest and demonstrable via simple, elementary school-level mathematics, shows more "genuine respect" for his fellow FReepers than does the unsupported (and unsupportable) one preceding it.

34 posted on 07/23/2012 1:47:22 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: Kevmo
Look at the damage these republican faux conservatives have done to conservatism. For every vote they gain by hounding us, they dismay more than a hundred conservatives.

^ THIS. THIS. x1,000,000,000 THIS. ^


35 posted on 07/23/2012 2:28:14 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: Jim Robinson
I’m very sorry to lose you, but I cannot bring myself to support Romney who for more than thirty years of his adult life (by his own admission) advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America. He explained that he had believed that since 1970 when his mother ran for the Senate on that platform. Also, he claimed that since Roe v Wade had been in existence for twenty years, it was settled law and should be sustained and supported as such and swore to do so. That plus the fact that he boasted that he would be better for gay rights than Ted Kennedy. And proved it. And the fact that he advocated for and signed into law a socialized healthcare program that eventually morphed into ObamaCare and is now threatening to end constitutionally limited government in America with the traitors on the Supreme Court upholding it. Romney’s entire career was that of a leftist liberal progressive. I cannot support the man. I cannot support the GOP’s sudden lurch to the left.

Well said, Jim.

36 posted on 07/23/2012 5:37:35 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Jim Robinson re Romney: "HeÂ’s a cartoonish fraud. A caricature in progress." Dittos)
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To: Jim Robinson

I cannot support the man. I cannot support the GOP’s sudden lurch to the left.
***It is not that sudden. It’s likely we would all have had this discussion in 2008 if McLame had not chosen Palin as running mate.


37 posted on 07/23/2012 7:50:00 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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