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Florida Family Association: Lada Gaga is Tricking Kids into being Gay
Right Wing Watch ^ | July 19 2012 | Brian Tashman

Posted on 07/21/2012 10:40:03 AM PDT by scottjewell

“Thousands of kids who might have otherwise worked through their pubescent sexual identity issues will be inspired to accept the wrong choice based upon this unscientific, emotionally charged born this way propaganda,” the FFA writes, “What’s brave or kind about telling thousands of sexually frustrated teens that they were born this way when a high percentage of them would have ended up taking the straight heterosexual path for life?”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afa; culturewars; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; kenyanbornmuzzie; ladygaga; music; officedepot; swrdswllwngsdshw
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These to me are words of wisdom: Moreover, they are solid, basic assertions of logic, and very hard to refute.

Of course the poor man is being written off as a certifiable loon, but such is the fabric of our times.

1 posted on 07/21/2012 10:40:10 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell
Wait till "she" comes out as he.

I believe you are correct. It is a big time corruption campaign targeted at our young.


They can't reproduce, so they recruit!

Poke her face with a lady gagger? How much more blatant does it have to get?

2 posted on 07/21/2012 10:44:21 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: scottjewell

I trust you read the article. The guy is a loon


3 posted on 07/21/2012 10:44:29 AM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: Melas
The guy is a loon

Please expound upon you ornithological expertize.

4 posted on 07/21/2012 10:48:52 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Melas

Whether or not he’s a loon, why do I get this creepy feeling that Lady Caca’s born This Way foundation is just another sex abuse scandal waiting to happen?


5 posted on 07/21/2012 10:50:44 AM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: scottjewell

You know the country is in deep trouble when something named Lady Gaga is the role model that the kids look up to.


6 posted on 07/21/2012 11:02:44 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Who is Barack Hussein Obama?)
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To: Melas

You mean the AFA leader is a loon for asking them to rescind the donation? Or the author of the piece? Or the information which the AFA sites? Whom are you saying is a ‘loon’, and why? Unclear, help me out.


7 posted on 07/21/2012 11:06:11 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell

Lady Gaga is the poison that our sick society spews.


8 posted on 07/21/2012 11:06:11 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: rawcatslyentist

I would appreciate that, too.


9 posted on 07/21/2012 11:07:19 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell

I’ve only had the occasional glimpse of the nut case who refers to her self as GA-GA, which means, I believe certifiably nuts.

Now, why would anyone pay money to see a crazy person when they can watch the antics of the speechifying Barack? His el Duce facial mannerisms and his frenetic marching back and forth across the platform as he attempts to read his tele prompter is just funny as hell.

Too bad the POS is the illegal president of the USA.


10 posted on 07/21/2012 11:17:30 AM PDT by IbJensen (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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To: Impala64ssa

Sadly Office Depot has signed on to her lock stock & barrel.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/07/17/2898988/office-depot-and-born-this-way.html


11 posted on 07/21/2012 11:20:13 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: scottjewell

Growing up I listened to Queen and the Eurythmics. At no point in time did it ever make me desire man butt. I don’t believe one chooses to be gay, they just are.


12 posted on 07/21/2012 11:21:25 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: EEGator

Well, you are constituted strongly in the heterosexual direction.

But I believe Freud was right when he said a significant number of people have a bisexual psychological constitution, and it is only society and mores which enable them to mature into marriage and childbearing and raising.

If Freud was correct - and I believe he was - then someone like Lady Gaga, as well as the entire rainbow movement, are definitely muddying the waters for people who may have matured past the bisexual moment, had the social fabric guied them to do so.


13 posted on 07/21/2012 11:30:03 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell

typo above: I meant “guided”.


14 posted on 07/21/2012 11:30:46 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: nascarnation

Yes, they jumped on the big money train.


15 posted on 07/21/2012 11:31:26 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: rawcatslyentist

Caton is the loon. I remember this guy well from his long winded rants against Howard Stern. Hyperbole doesn’t even begin to describe it.


16 posted on 07/21/2012 11:33:39 AM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: scottjewell

So true, every teen goes through a self-doubt crisis, about sex, his or her competence to face life’s challenges on one’s own, am I pretty/handsom & if not, what other gifts do I have?

For the homosexual/lesbian crowd to muscle in and use this vulnerable moment of doubt to capture that youth is despicable and base. As base as the abomination they practice.


17 posted on 07/21/2012 11:40:54 AM PDT by RicocheT (Eat the rich only if you're certain it's your last meal)
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To: scottjewell

You might be correct. It just seems so far off of how I am. I can’t fathom seeing Gisele Bundchen and Tom Brady, and picking him.

P.S. I certainly do not support Lady Gaga or the homo movement. She is an abrasive, annoying freak. Teaching children about homosexuality is completely wrong.


18 posted on 07/21/2012 11:43:19 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: RicocheT

Well said, and yes, they are muscling in and it is despicable. I believe they know full well what they are doing, and are not confused regarding the “born that way” theory.


19 posted on 07/21/2012 11:43:51 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: EEGator

You are incorrect. The environment determines the sexuality of children. You either allow the natural formation of the sexual identity (like Freud states and many other child psychiatrists) or you disturb that natural formation and create perversions.

Parents can encourage “gayness” by ridiculing the masculinity or femininity of their very young children. Or by rejecting their children or by desertion and not having a male and female role model who both love them unconditionly—which is necessary for emotional healthy development. The worldview of children—of self and relationship to others is formed in the first seven years but can be especially corrupted during latency period (6-12) when sexual innocence is necessary.

Trauma to children will result in perversion. Manson and Gacy were sodomized as children—it destroyed the understanding of reality—self—and how to function as a normal person. They can’t. Of course, Manson had no known father—a real disaster for boys who will not grow up normally (with healthy self-esteem—they can’t).

Sodomy is a learned behavior—as child rape—beastiality, etc. The object of sexual attraction is created by the environment. If you learn to hate your mother—or father it determines your whole outlook on people and creates perversion.

Ancient Greece normalized sodomy—it was considered good which meant pederasty was celebrated and encouraged. Men would formally court boys with gifts, etc. Myths glorified Zeus raping Ganymedes, the beautiful boy he lusted after (to his wife).

It is worldview—lifestyle that the culture embraces. Christianity made sodomy evil and put homosexuals in the closet. It should be that way because of the Laws of Nature and the Age of Reason and the natural sexual formation of children which, if corrupted, always leads to perversions and a unnatural use of body.

Afghanistan is a country which allows sodomy of boys—and all the boys grow up desiring boys——for their harems. This is obviously learned behavior.


20 posted on 07/21/2012 11:44:58 AM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: EEGator

I know you do not support her/them. I appreciate your candor, but I really do believe you (and others) may take for granted your robust heterosexual constitution, not realizing that there is a minority (but a significant one) who really do pass through a phase of confusion, and do not need it made worse. Thanks for reading and commenting. :-)


21 posted on 07/21/2012 11:46:59 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell

Do you mean the same money train that J.C. Penney got on?

Their stock fell 50% and their business went in the toilet after Degenerate signed on.

Offict Depot has seen me for the last time and I gave up Oreo’s and started eating at Chick Fil-et.


22 posted on 07/21/2012 11:48:09 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: savagesusie

Thanks for these remarks and I think this is why Freud himself has now been put in a closet:

He emphasized just how important parenting and guidance from the culture really are.

People do not just spring up spontaneously as healthy men and women, able to marry and to raise families. They must be NURTURED and GUIDED to become so. We are far more complex than animals; hence, many things can and do go awry with us.

It is no accident that after households guided by single mothers became all the rage in the late ‘60s and early ‘70s, the number of gay bars began to spring up all over the nation. Young males had become confused and they were acting out. “Born that way” is another way of saying, “for god’s sake, do not blame divorce, single motherhood, destruction of fatherhood, religion or culture. No, just say they were born gay, so we are all off the hook. “


23 posted on 07/21/2012 11:53:09 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: RicocheT

Not once in my life did I ever think of myself as other than a man , and not being handsome or particluarly a jock,never stopped me from looking at the attributes of the beautiful females, whether I had a shot at them or not.


24 posted on 07/21/2012 11:53:23 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer

Well, time will tell here. JCP is in trouble, but there may be other reasons for this. Other companies who have gone “pro-gay” are still doing well.


25 posted on 07/21/2012 11:55:19 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell

The FFA continue to run circles around the bloated, multi-million dollar national groups Focus on the Family and FRC. Love them.


26 posted on 07/21/2012 11:56:09 AM PDT by montag813
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To: scottjewell

Your welcome.

It is just common sense. Raising four healthy boys was hard in this sexualized culture which is getting worse by the minute. You need to pick a dedicated, emotionally healthy man to help raise your children if you are a woman. Choices matter for the mental health of children.

We have allowed the perverts to design the curricula in the schools to corrupt our children to the worldview of Afghanis.

We allowed the perverts to overthrow reason and truth by their corruption of the APA and silencing and demeaning of all Christian perspectives which formed the greatest—healthiest—freest cultures in the history of man.

We are allowing the Age of Reason to be destroyed by the irrational Postmodernism of Marx and the atheists who want to return us to the Sandusky culture of the Ancient Greeks. All homosexual literature adores the Ancient Greeks when women were breeders and boys were the prizes and slavery was good as was child sacrifice. It is such a sick worldview these atheists are forcing on children in the schools.


27 posted on 07/21/2012 12:09:58 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: scottjewell

My pleasure. Thanks for your comments as well. Sometimes discussions like these lead to less than civil behavior.


28 posted on 07/21/2012 12:10:30 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: savagesusie

whoops—You’re


29 posted on 07/21/2012 12:10:37 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: savagesusie

I don’t think that homosexuality is 100% divorced from environment. Sexually abused children can certainly have serious mental issues throughout their lives. I just think there are people who grow up “normal, healthy” lives that are gay. I don’t think they choose it.


30 posted on 07/21/2012 12:13:42 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: EEGator

Why teaching children about sex is evil, is because of their natural sexual formation and the latency period. Even Rousseau recognized this universal formation of children—the need from non-sexual focus on others. It is necessary for boys and girls to identify with the same sex (6-12) at this age so that at puberty they have a strong natural identity of self-—so then they can mature into a focus on the other—opposite sex which should happen at puberty—not before. Boys should prefer being with boys as girls, with girls during a healthy normal childhood.

Introducing homosexuality will confuse the worldview of children. They do not have the experience or understanding to realize that they are NOT homosexual—because nature designed them to prefer the same sex during the latency period—sexuality is naturally suppressed during this age for normal sexual development.

For civil society, we need children to see human beings with dignity and respect—apart from making them a sexual object which demeans human beings and always confuses children too immature to understand the sexual emotions. It always corrupts the worldview of children and forces them to look at others in a sexual way, even their parents.

Sex Ed in schools removes morality and meaning from the sexual act and reduces it to a base urge and encourages children to “just do it for fun!” It is a very dangerous concept to all civil societies which is why the Cultural Marxists devised Sex Ed to corrupt children and destroy Western Civ.


31 posted on 07/21/2012 12:25:47 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Melas
>"Hyperbole doesn’t even begin to describe it.

" long winded rants against Howard Stern"

That makes a loon? C'mon you gotta do better than that.

Just because one is a bit passionate about a subject does not make them a loon.
This article was very short, with no over hype.

I can understand if you disagree with someone.

You just appear childish if you call people names.

32 posted on 07/21/2012 12:26:19 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: savagesusie

I agree with just about all of your post. The only thing that I somewhat disagree with is only hanging with same sex from 6-12. I grew up and always had a really good female friend as well as male friends. I think it made me understand girls better than most boys.


33 posted on 07/21/2012 12:34:14 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Melas
I trust you read the article. The guy is a loon

I agree. This is ridiculous.

34 posted on 07/21/2012 12:38:51 PM PDT by Drew68 (I WILL vote to defeat Barack Hussein Obama!)
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To: EEGator; scottjewell; RicocheT; Melas; savagesusie; All

Always wondered why people don’t ask (themselves and others who are influenced) what does gay “Pride” means and what is there to be “proud” of which the gay activists are pushing, along with “pretty” rainbows.

I understand that “pride” is a recruiting and cultivating tool - to make the otherwise mostly miserable and unhappy “real life” lifestile seem glamorous and happy (the original meaning of the word “gay”) when preying mostly on the young and sexually or spiritually confused...

But why is there no natural curiousity about what the meaning and the source of the gay “pride” is and what the minority of the population (by most research accounts, 2%-3%, including bisexuals and “college experience”) may find there to be “proud” of?

It’s a good question to ask those who are confused and/or have been brainwashed by the deliberate propaganda in the media, that devotes inordinate time and effort to the issue in an attempt to glamorize it or make the lifestyle seem “normal” and natural. Does “proud” only mean “different” and it is exactly that and/or the “attention” they are really looking for or attracted to?

Maybe the light bulbs will light up in their heads and many will start to question the currently “politically correct conventional wisdom” about what pride really means and why it is used to promote unnatural and unhealthy lifestyle. Being a “freak” is not the kind of “attention” or being “different” that most of the youth are seeking.


35 posted on 07/21/2012 12:49:38 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: scottjewell

How it it doing that? Is it telling the kids that it is o.k. if a boy to smokes another boy’s bone or it if a girl eats another girl’s hole.


36 posted on 07/21/2012 1:46:59 PM PDT by sport
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To: sport

Erm. . . what is your point, exactly?


37 posted on 07/21/2012 2:08:05 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell
<<>>>> That was the headline of the thread. I just wondered how it[the individual named] could trick them. i suppose it is a femle but since I do not keep up on that side of things I could not say for sure. But just curious as to how she could trick them into doing what queers do.
38 posted on 07/21/2012 2:16:33 PM PDT by sport
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To: sport

Well, the idea is, that she could confuse young people who were merely going through a phase of being curious or confused, into thinking they were “born that way”. By endorsing it, she is giving the green light on something they should be guided out of.

A friend of mine knew a woman who was a separatist lesbian for 10 years, only to wake up one day and realized she had been tricked by the movement. She really liked men, and felt she had wasted her youth thinking she was a lesbian.


39 posted on 07/21/2012 2:49:50 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: Venturer

Well, that may be so. So in your opinion Lady Gaga’s endorsement is harmless, and the AFA guy is a nut for thinking she could lead anyone astray? By the way: It is young girls, and not young guys, who are the really vulnerable ones here. It is easier to trick a girl into being a lesbian than to trick a guy into thinking he is gay. So girls should be protected form going “ga ga”. ;)


40 posted on 07/21/2012 2:52:33 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell

That is what I wanted/need to know. Thanks.


41 posted on 07/21/2012 3:12:51 PM PDT by sport
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To: sport

Most welcome.


42 posted on 07/21/2012 3:14:44 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell

I don’t know how you got that out of my saying I would never go to office depot again.

I stated that J.C. Penney stock had plummeted with Degenerate as their spokesperson.Most would assume that meant that Lady Gaga’s endorsement should sink Office Depot.

How you took that to mean that I believe Lady Gaga’s endorsement is harmless is a mystery to me.

If it were up to me Gaga would be banned in every state in which she makes appearances, but of course she does have the right to spread her filth, and far too many kids fall for it.

Homosexuals are not born they are recruited, and the recent success of their recruitment program puts the lie to their insinuation, that Homo’s are born that way.

Homosexuals have a plan to convince people that they are worhy of sympathy,because they are queer. Many youngsters who don’t know better are sympathetic and end up being bent over and driven home.


43 posted on 07/21/2012 3:23:10 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer

Oh, no offense meant. I was responding to your other post (#24: you said:

“Not once in my life did I ever think of myself as other than a man , and not being handsome or particluarly a jock,never stopped me from looking at the attributes of the beautiful females, whether I had a shot at them or not.”)

Just trying to show that some teens do have confusion. I understand about the other stuff. Sorry, did not mean to jump on you, was just wondering . . .


44 posted on 07/21/2012 3:29:27 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell
These to me are words of wisdom: Moreover, they are solid, basic assertions of logic, and very hard to refute.

So, you really think that kids who like girls will be "tricked" into liking guys because of a song? I am not saying that activist homosexual propaganda comes without a price, but has this been the experience with men and boys you have known?

45 posted on 07/21/2012 6:27:40 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: BfloGuy
No, I admit it has not been my own experience; nor have I known men or boys who were swayed by some endorsement. However, it has been observed by myself and others with girls and young women. In college, and in my own family there are examples aplenty. I do believe girls are susceptible. If anyone has read Freud extensively, they will recognize a basic weakness regarding this in the "fairer" sex. In former times, this passed as a phase. Since the '90s, many have embraced bisexuality and then the lesbian lifestyle. Not good for marriage or the family unit. Or men, for that matter.
46 posted on 07/21/2012 7:00:12 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: EEGator

It would be unnatural (like in Afghanistan) to have no connection with the opposite sex-—and could lead to perversions also.

It is just that if boys (6-12) had a choice to hang out with boys or girls===their first choice would to play sports with the boys—or whatever. I grew up playing with my brothers and was a tomboy-—but I loved spending time with my girlfriends—it was more fun for me to relate to girls at that age. (we have more in common).

You need to interact with all ages and both sexes to grow up to be normal.


47 posted on 07/21/2012 7:05:38 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: BfloGuy

Addendum to my reply to you:

And recall this is not Lady Gaga tricking kids into being gay because of a song: It is a broad, pro-gay agenda which she is part of, with corporate sponsorships , public relations campaigns, endorsements, million dollar donations, and a general cultural trend going full steam with the youth. I for one have no doubt in my mind but that its an attempt at raising the numbers of youth who identify as LGBTQ.


48 posted on 07/21/2012 7:12:44 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: EEGator
I don’t believe one chooses to be gay, they just are.

The “Born this Way” crowd has tried to scientifically prove genetic predisposition to perversion.

Since they already have their conclusion, they avoid evidence to the contrary. This is why they quickly abandoned the use of identical twins in their studies. They learned early on that in identical twins, both are rarely homosexual.

49 posted on 07/21/2012 8:01:14 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (If there is a war on women, the Kennedys are the Spec Ops troops.)
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To: scottjewell

No, let’s be honest. She’s frightening boys into being gay.


50 posted on 07/21/2012 8:17:09 PM PDT by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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