Posted on 07/21/2012 1:16:41 PM PDT by GilGil
Whenever the IRS is involved everyone knows its job is to collect taxes, taxes, taxes. What the IRS will be doing with the health care bill is to collect yet another tax. That is what the IRS does by definition. That is its purpose and has always been so. If voters have a choice to get rid of the IRS out of their lives, it will not be hard to divine what they will choose.
If the health care bill is not a tax, why is the IRS enforcing it?
When people think of the IRS, what first comes to mind? Taxes and nothing but taxes. Then they think of levies, fines and maybe jail. President Obama wants us to believe that the IRS is now going to be concerned about our health. Decades of the worst of abuses of the citizenry by the IRS will not fool the ordinary citizen into thinking this health care bill is good for his health.
Everyone, absolutely everyone, who is told the IRS will make them buy health insurance is conditioned to view the IRS as a tax enforcer. This has been so for many decades. Everyone hates the IRS.
This is not a winnable PR war for the democrats to convince ordinary citizens that the IRS gives a damn about them because it never has. They will never convince people that this health care bill is a gift from heaven when the mafia goons of the IRS are going to break kneecaps if you do not buy the insurance. That is more like extortion. It does not matter which socioeconomic sector an individual comes from. All have had the same universal experiences with the IRS which are terrible to nightmarish.
Obama is a lost cause for the democrats that is costing them the election. They will never convince anyone that the IRS is there to better their health. The IRS is a gruesome, unfair, sadistic organization and 100% of the working population knows it.
The Democrat's PR game is a lost cause before it starts. The democrats are so stupid to think we do not know what is happening when they are sending in the IRS to terrorize the citizenry into compliance. Whether democrat, independent or republican a citizen will know this is a bad deal because that same citizen has had dealings with the IRS and all have been bad. Basically, when dealing with the IRS the proposition is that it wins and the citizen loses regardless of the citizen's case.
Some of you may or may not remember when Hillary Clinton wanted to ram through her version of Obamacare back in 1994. People were so opposed to Hillarycare that the Democrats lost both the House and the Senate for the first time since the 83rd Congress of 1953-1954. Prior to the congressional elections of 1994 no pollster even registered the level of unhappiness the American citizen had with Hillarycare. No pollster had any idea that President Clinton and the Democrats were going to lose on such a grand scale. One of the overriding reasons was that the democrat vote turned against President Clinton in staggering numbers. This author remembers talking to long standing, hard core democrats in 1994 and all said the same thing. They did not want government dictating to them what they could do with their doctors. Democrat women especially were very, very vocal after the 1994 congressional elections that they were appalled at this level of government intrusion. What was shocking was that these ordinary democrats who had voted democrat all their lives did not hesitate to throw their party under the bus on this issue.
The polling data is very clear and consistent on Obamacare. 60% are opposed and 40% are for.
Even If It Survives the Court, the Health Care Law Is Doomed according to Scott Rasmussen.
This data has not changed since democrats rammed Obamacare through the senate in 2010. Add to that the following.
80% Expect Repeal of Health Care Law If Romney Wins , Economy, Health Care Top Voter Concerns , 66% Believe U.S. Has Too Much Government Power, Too Little Freedom , 66% Say Spending Cuts Should be Considered in All Government Programs .
This health care bill is DOA with the American people. It is so clear that the electorate is overwhelmingly opposed to Obamacare. As in 1994, democrats and independents will show up in droves to vote against Obamacare in November. And just as in 1994, the pollsters are either too politically correct to do an honest poll or more likely rebellious democrats are fearful of telling pollsters how they will truly vote in November as they did to defeat Hillarycare in 1994. They already hate this bill 60% against and 40% for. Add the IRS to this equation and we are going to swear in President Romney by 8:00 PM on election night and kill the bill with a simple majority vote in the Senate. No way this has a chance of a snow flake in hell of surviving and neither does President Obama.
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Will all the Democrat dead have had the opportunity to vote their obligatory 5 times each by 8 p.m.?
I’m not assuming there will even be an election, let alone a fair one.
I agree with this post, on one condition:
Romney teams up with Palin.
If he tries to win this on his own, he’s in for a real fight.
If however he hires Palin and backs himself up with the entire right-wing base, he’s in like Flynn.
:D
My prediction: the polling will continue to look worse and worse and the dems will do a “hail Mary”. Obama or Biden, or both, will bow out and put in Hillary, or someone like that.
They did this in NJ in a Senate race and it worked.
On the side I think Obama is in this for the money. My take is he is skimming his funds to support a lavish lifestyle - because really he’s got nothing else.
Palin, Keyes, West, Cain.
But he’ll go for a nebbish who won’t outshine him.
“When Obama says vee own the vorld and space,
vee go heil phhht! heil phhht!
right in Obama’s face!"
3rd hand info? Yes. Unreliable? for sure. What are favorite talkers maybe thinking and feeling in their gut, you bet.
But they can't say it or we loose the passion and get soft. I know I won't loose the passion to pull the lever(s) against everyone that stands with Obama.
I have been saying for eons this will be a blowout that will take the Dems twenty years to recover from and I think they are loss prevention mode and they know it. 60 in the Senate, and I predicted it before Dick Morris did,
I spoke with an old friend in MA, we are talking an uber liberal state here.... His synopsis. 1/3 of his coworkers are vocal anti-Obama. 1/3 are sycophantic gun-grabbing loons. The other third? Are real quiet, you see his theory is they pulled the lever for Oboingo and are afraid to admit it.... The question is, do they stay home or make up for their mistake. If they do, do we have a 60 - 40 victory for Romney even in MA?.
Just like the 80' Hockey Team, Do you believe in Miracles?
By 8:00 PM on November 6, 2012 the presidential election will be called for RomneyBy 9:00 PM America will be burning.
The 1967 Detroit Riot (Twelfth Street Riot)
Just saw a very interesting ad on.....Had to be Fox News. They needed 10,000 signatures from each congressional district to declare that BHO was ineligible to be nominated. Should have done that the first time.
I was half asleep and tried to remember the phone # but I’m not sure. I dialed what I thought it was and got some sort of an automatic code.
Anyone else see this??????
BA
If Obama carries anything it will be some of those early states, so the election won't be called until later in the evening when enough states have had a chance to vote.
But who "calls" elections anyway? The television networks?Regardless of law or accuracy or carefulness, the media love Obama, so even if there's a sweep for Romney, they won't call the election until very late in the night.
BS! At 8pm, folks in the Central, Mountain and Pacific time zones will still be voting. And that doesn't include Alaska and Hawaii.
Assuming, of course, you mean 8pm Eastern Time.
Don’t count your vote before the liberal judges do. :)
There is a story out today that not only did Obama run a huge campaign deficit last month, but that he spent $2.6m on POLLING. That should tell everyone something-—that any polls showing him in the lead are fraudulent. No one leading, no one sure of his message, no one assured of winning spends that kind of money on polls.
They did not see the tsunami in the 1994 elections. This is no different because the issue is exactly the same one. Obama will lose 60/40!
I predict that even if Romney appears to be winning by a landslide, key states will remain ‘too close to call’ until after polls close in Alaska and Hawaii.
And I predict that Fox News will NOT be the first to project Romney the winner even if it’s obviously a landslide early on.
Drudge will be the first to project the winner!
NBC News projected Reagan as the winner at 8:15 pm EST (5:15 PST), before voting was finished in the West, based on exit polls. (It was the first time a broadcast network used exit polling to project a winner, and took the other broadcast networks by surprise.) Carter conceded defeat at 9:50 pm EST.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1980
Since ideas transcend personalities, it is foolish to make a Palin condition.
Rather, it should be said
- Romney must pick a conservative VP
- Romney must run a conservative issues-oriented campaign
on the second item, Romney did himself credit with a great speech slamming Obama’s “you didnt built it” re-marx.
The base AND the independents will be with Romney if he draws the distinction between Obama’s spend-more tax-more philosophy and a conservative free market approach that builds the economy up through free enterprise.
It has to be 8PM PST.
Networks dont call elections before the polls close, and are cagey about making mistakes.
They wont call it for Romney early. But that’s okay ... SO LONG AS OBAMA IS FIRED.
I'm calling it right now, damnit! I've already asked work if I can have Jan 21, 2013 off just so I can go to Washington and heckle Obama. I'll be the guy chanting this at the top of my lungs:
Na Na Na Na - Na Na Na Na - Hey Hey Hey - Goodbye
I doubt rather seriously that you'll be THE guy...
Well you go ahead and back a wider coalition.
I’m for Palin.
:D
Huh' are you posting this from a different planet....'cause that isn't happening on this one...
Please ping me if you get details.
Unless those people and the main supervisors under them are arrested and tried for all of the stupid decisions they've made, NOTHING is going to change. It doesn't matter WHO the president is. If it did matter, the troops would be home from Iraq and Afghanistan. Obama is not even running the show now. Someone behind him is telling him what to do. When are folks going to wake up?
Could this go viral?
snip-”Here’s another of those quiet, subtle, but very dangerous little stories that has somehow slipped past all the mainstream media outlets.
The United States of America has a brand new private VOTE COUNTING company that the Obama administration has personally handpicked.
The company is called Scytl and it is based in Michelle Obama’s most favorite vacation spot, Barcelona, Spain. “
http://patriotupdate.com/articles/what-is-scytl-why-should-you-be-very-very-concerned
Go ahead; confront your congresscritters with this.
You’ll get the same reaction I got: ZIP. No response.
It’ll be called for Obama the second the polls close on the east coast.
ACORN (or whatever they call themselves these days) was given billions in stimulus funds, which will be used this year to buy the election. Even factcheck.org can’t spin away the fact that they got billions:
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/02/the-stimulus-bill-and-acorn/
The last time I checked, there was still around 1/2 billion in that pot, which I presume is being distributed this year leading up to the election.
If there is an election I predict Romney will be declared the winner by a landslide at 1 minute after the last poll closes. That being said I’m sure Barry has a few suprises he plans to roll out before Nov 6th. Keep the pitchforks near the front door.
At every campaign appearance between now and November?
Yeah, probably...
As Mortrey hinted at post #29, the key is Scytl.
If bammy wins, that will be the very last you will hear of it.
If he doesn't allah the sudden Scytl and the total lack of a paper audit trail will be the lead story every day for months, and those waskely wepublicans will be blamed for tricking The One into hand picking them to count the vote.
They did that ILLEGALLY in the NJ Senate race as it was less than 54 days from the election. Just wanted to clarify.
Not gonna' happen.... Romney wants nothing to do with real conservatism. He never has and he never will.
That Obama is a one termer is a given. No doubt. A bigger challenge bigger than getting rid of Obama, will be getting the Republicans to do what we want them to starting with repeal. McCain is getting so squishy he is acting like he did when he ran. The Republican leadership will have to be replaced. Repeal Obamacare and replace the Republican leadership.
I remember the evening Reagan beat Carter. My husband and I arrived at a friend’s home just after 8pm (EST) to watch the results come in. But it was announced that Reagan won even before we were able to make popcorn.
The media has a vested business interest in keeping people watching as long as possible. They charge higher advertising rates during these events. They will do what they can to keep 'eyes on'.
Except if Obama appears to be winning, they’ll be calling the election right after East Coast polls close, ‘mistakes’ be damned!
That's because it's utter tin foil hat BS.
The States count their own votes, more importantly the Electors elect the POTUS.
Not some voodoo soros owned company in Spain.
YOu think the States (all 57 of them) are going to go along with this??
Hoax
“Romney teams up with Palin.”
Not gonna happen. Romney and his surrogate’s actions during the 2008 election have poisoned that well. Palin will never again trust Romney. Even now, she never speaks Romney’s name. Her attitude is ABO spoken without any Romney endorsement......
Barky’s “you didn’t build that,” remark nails the election for Mitt.
“They will do what they can to keep ‘eyes on’.”
1) Wolf Blitzer, CNN, NBC, ABC,and CBS EXCITEDLY declare Obama winner based on exit polling.
2)15 minutes later - “This could be a cliffhanger, folks.”
3) “Waiting for the last votes from Chicago, Philadelphia and Broward County.”
4)Dejectedly, “Looks like Romney wins in a surprisingly unexpected historic landslide.”
5) “Angry white racist men have voted our Glorious Leader out of office.” Wolf ponders, “What does this say about our country?
That’s how they played the Scott Walker recall election.
If the MSM strings this along, Drudge will call it for Romney just like he did in Wisconsin. He was the first to call it for Walker as the MSM was dragging their feet and he called it within an hour of the polls closing.
I don’t if the black vote stays home... depends on the spin, and if they get another “black” like Clinton.
Here's my prediction, Obama will be lucky to get 40%.
I could not agree more. Basically, Romney will win by the same margin of those against Obamacare. Basically 60% are against Obamacare. In 1994 Democrats and Independents voted against Hillarycare in crushing numbers. Nothing has changed since then.
The bigger fight, and I am not exaggerating, will be to get Republicans to do what we want them to. Republicans in Congress will be the biggest traitors we have to deal with not Democrats. McCain is already starting to reveal his true colors judging from how he is turning on Michelle Bachman regarding Uma what’s-her-name who works for Hillary Clinton and whose mother is closely allied with the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. Republicans will be our biggest problem back to constitutional government.
Bingo. The GOP is going to be given little to no slack. They have to be made to realize, this is their last chance. No more RINO big government crap. It’s save the country or get the heck out of the way.
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