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Occupy Wall Street Names Colorado Massacre Shooter James Holmes as Occupy Black Bloc Member
OccuWorld ^ | July 21, 2012

Posted on 07/21/2012 5:03:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

(VIDEO AT LINK)

www.westernjournalism.com ‘Occupy Wall Street Names Colorado Massacre Shooter James Holmes as Occupy Black Bloc Member’ Occupy Wall Street’s main website, OccupyWallStreet.org, has named Colorado Massacre Shooter James Holmes as an Occupy Black Bloc Member, which has been confirmed by Occupy Black Bloc researcher and expert private investigator Bill Warner. occupywallst.org (Occupy Wall Street.org took this down about an hour after it was posted, but screenshot proves James Holmes’ connection to Occupy movement) pibillwarner.wordpress.com cheatersflorida.wordpress.com www.occupyunmasked.com


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: 57states; anarchist; anarchists; billwarner; blackbloc; colorado; jamesholmes; massacre; mediawingofthednc; mymuslimfaith; occubots; occupy; occupyblackbloc; occupywallstreet; occutardation; occutards; occuturds; ows; partisanmediashills; westernjournalism
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1 posted on 07/21/2012 5:03:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

10, 9, 8, 7 ...


2 posted on 07/21/2012 5:05:52 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (TIN)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well let's think about this. We have a guy who is:

1. a dropout grad student

2. on the dole

3. into drugs and group sex (per his adultfriendfinder post)

4. dies his hair like a weirdo

5. wears a ski hat indoors when on the computer

6. identifies with the anarchists and anti-heroes like the Joker

I don't know yet if it quacks like a duck, but it sure looks like a duck.

The MSM is trying to set up an either/or paradigm that if he was mentally ill then there is no ideological angle to this.

But it is possible that this scumbag is BOTH mentally deranged and an OWS ideologue.

If one actually tries to talks to OWS types, one finds that some of them don't seem to be 'all there' (long-term drug abuse?).

3 posted on 07/21/2012 5:09:29 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: InterceptPoint

Holmes is white; how did he get involved in a black bloc?


4 posted on 07/21/2012 5:10:32 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Time magazine’s columnist, Michael Grunwald, opined that there was nothing wrong with politicizing this shooting incident. What say you now, Mr. Grunwald?

Brian Ross and George Stephanopolis who immediately slandered the TEA Party by saying the murderer was a member of that group, will probably fail to mention this unpleasant news.


5 posted on 07/21/2012 5:11:00 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Even if true and backed by solid facts, this information would NEVER be reported by the media.


6 posted on 07/21/2012 5:11:48 PM PDT by risen_feenix
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There’s still no real proof. However, unlike yesterday when I didn’t think Holmes was part of any organization I’m starting to get suspicious why we still haven’t heard ANYTHING about him and his affiliations..even the dating site is being kept hush hush by most of the main networks/papers. Usually silence from the media means it’s not good for them and their ilk.
Maybe the police haven’t found anything tying him to a particular group or movement, but usually someone like this guy has some agenda or point. And it’s obvious he’s had some mental break or psychotic episode. Was it brought on by drugs? Who knows. The silence is weird though.


7 posted on 07/21/2012 5:12:16 PM PDT by snarkytart (http://www.freerepubli224%2C1)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Staged just in time for a vote on the UN small arms treaty?

More and more, this shooting is looking like a deliberate plot staged by the government itself much like Operation Fast and Furious pulled off by the ATF (http://www.naturalnews.com/032934_ATF_illegal_firearms.html) which helped smuggle tens of thousands of guns into Mexico for the purpose of causing “gun violence” in the USA, then blaming the Second Amendment for it.”

http://www.naturalnews.com/036536_James_Holmes_shooting_false_flag.html#ixzz21DXlFWJ5


8 posted on 07/21/2012 5:16:23 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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He probably wasn’t mentally ill, just disgruntled over some perceived grievance. (possibly not being able to find a job)

James Holmes made a presentation in May about Micro DNA Biomarkers.

A neighbor (CNN) said he had a beer with him a few days ago and he thought he was a typical college student.

doesn’t sound crazy to me.

This guy is putting on an act.


9 posted on 07/21/2012 5:18:11 PM PDT by snowstorm12
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To: risen_feenix

Fact is, zero’s a staunch supporter of OWS and admonished them to ‘get in their faces. If they bring a knife, you bring a gun.’

Well, one of his guys took him up on it. That’s called inciting violence around these parts.


10 posted on 07/21/2012 5:18:11 PM PDT by txhurl (Scott Walker is my President.)
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To: snarkytart

When did he suddenly go off the rails, ditching his degree program? Was it after he became involved with OWS? His parents know what happened to him and talking to them should answer some questions as to his motivation.


11 posted on 07/21/2012 5:18:52 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: HiTech RedNeck

He’s like Eminem.


12 posted on 07/21/2012 5:18:58 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Definitely keeps the findings of the Az sherrif off the air.


13 posted on 07/21/2012 5:20:03 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: snowstorm12

I guess his hair wasn’t red last Tuesday.

Can you give some links on the presentation he made?

I wonder if he will turn out to be adopted.


14 posted on 07/21/2012 5:21:25 PM PDT by txhurl (Scott Walker is my President.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

OWS had countless jokers/anarchists - people with that white joker face painted to obscure their identity. They vow to destroy America and all we hold sacred.

Batman - beats the Joker.

Connection?? I wouldn’t be surprised!


15 posted on 07/21/2012 5:22:30 PM PDT by Humidston (For the first time in my adult life I FEAR my government.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Pelosi:

"God bless them"

. . ."and they WILL be effective"

16 posted on 07/21/2012 5:22:42 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: going hot
Definitely keeps the findings of the Az sherrif off the air.
It sure does, doesn't it.
17 posted on 07/21/2012 5:25:13 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Mortrey; Admin Moderator
Second time in less then an hour I've seen you post utter BS

Are you trolling or just a conspiracy nut job?

18 posted on 07/21/2012 5:26:07 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We went over this earlier today.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2909007/posts

This doofus PI Bill Warner speculated on his website that we should look into the possibility that Holmes was part of OWS.

Then he posted the same thing on OWS. OWS had a disclaimer that the post was from a contributor to the website and was NOT an official comment from them.

No doubt they checked out Warner and realized he was looking for publicity for his detective agency, whose phone number he posted.

They removed the post. Kind of like happens on FR when something is totally unsubstantiated.

By then, a lot of people assumed OWS was claiming Holmes as a member. They did no such thing.

I can’t believe I am defending OWS, whom I despise, but it does no good to try to link Holmes to them without any evidence at all.

Maybe he is connected. Maybe not. But there is no way of knowing at this time unless he himself admits it or he is on some roster at OWS or some OWS member or friend outs him. I would imagine OWS would dump any listing they have for him.


19 posted on 07/21/2012 5:26:20 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Meet the New Boss
Hmmm... Who was he trying to look like?


20 posted on 07/21/2012 5:28:49 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Holmes is white; how did he get involved in a black bloc?

Same reason some white chicks like black guys?
21 posted on 07/21/2012 5:29:09 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: justiceseeker93; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

They are 99% — of the problem.

Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.


22 posted on 07/21/2012 5:31:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Are they sure this that the screen cap isn’t like the LE 9GAG Army image? That was bogus and is part of the 9gag—/b/tard-4chan. They are having a chit slinging fest.

This guy doesn’t seem the big-mouth extroverted Occupy sort. They are so weird he may have made friends had he been a part of it. I’m not convinced he was yet. I suspected that right out of the shoot but have since somewhat changed my mind.

This guy was waaay introverted from all I have found. He seemed to have snapped somewhere along the line. His mother went from calling him a good son before this to saying they have the right guy.


23 posted on 07/21/2012 5:31:17 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Right Wing Assault

You’re saying someone stuck his name up on OWS’s website as a hoax?


24 posted on 07/21/2012 5:31:17 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: Irenic

gah! chute not shoot!


25 posted on 07/21/2012 5:33:05 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Since the earlier erroneous relief that Holmes was a Tea Party member, I’m inclined to reserve judgment until and unless this assertion is proven.

I’m just trying to figure out how he had the money to purchase his arsenal if he was unemployed, as has been reported.


26 posted on 07/21/2012 5:33:23 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Irenic

Some are saying the OWS listing was a hoax, not the screen capture of it, but the placing of his name on there. Someone could put Mitt Romney’s name up there if they wanted, it appears.


27 posted on 07/21/2012 5:33:31 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: fatnotlazy

If he dealt drugs it wouldn’t be difficult to come into that level of cash. Some deal because they can also get personal nose candy and the like free.


28 posted on 07/21/2012 5:34:43 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: Right Wing Assault

I would add that asking if he is a “member” of OWS is not a useful approach.

OWS is not some sort of tight organization that issues membership cards.

It is a very loosely-associated movement with a variety of causes and groups and individuals that congregate around the events, ranging from hard-core communists to animal rights nuts to envirowackos to all manner of leeches and bums.


29 posted on 07/21/2012 5:34:43 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: fatnotlazy

He had worked for the school before his grades hit the skids.


30 posted on 07/21/2012 5:39:16 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
not the screen capture of it, but the placing of his name on there. Someone could put Mitt Romney’s name up there if they wanted, it appears.

It's a forum post, not unlike being able to post here.

Remember the trolls that would come here and post racist stuff against obama and his kids?

They'd grab a quick screen shot before it could get deleted then go post the screen shots on their libtard forum "proving" how racist FR is.

31 posted on 07/21/2012 5:40:11 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

James Holmes was born Dec 13 1987. He graduated from Westview High School, San Diego in 2006 at 18.

His family attended the Presbyterian church and had large Christmas parties on their front lawn for the neighbors and often exchanged gifts.

His father is a manager of a software company and his mother is a nurse.

They were never known to have weapons or conflicts.

He has a younger sister who plays guitar and attends San Diego State. I suspect the sticker on the San Diego family back window “To Write Love on Her Arms” is his sisters room and I am guessing she is/was a cutter.

He mowed the grass and washed the car, his mother said he was a good son. He was quiet and always had a smile on his face. Though neighbors suspected he was picked on

They never saw him have friends over, parties at the house or any girlfriends. He wore a t-shirt under his button down shirts, he had geeky glasses.

He loved video games but didn’t like shooters, he like guitar hero and role playing games. He favored villians over superheros. (the underdogs?) He didn’t like rap.

He played league soccer and most boys continued throughout high school, not James. He played his freshman and sophomore years. He was not very good at it.

He was on the cross country team for his freshman year and quit after that.

Most everyone says he was smart, quiet, quiet, quiet. he was not a trouble maker and he had a great sense of humor and was very witty if you got to know him.

He wanted very much to be liked and wanted but he didn’t have many friends.

He wanted to hurry up and get through with school so he could get to college.

*****

Sept 10 2006 he started at UC, Riverside he was a scholarship student.

Everybody said he was quiet, quiet, quiet and smart and a little weird, strange. he completed the honors program and was a member of the Phi Beta Kappa and Golden Key honor society. He lived in Honor’s dorms. He graduated in the spring of 2010 with a bachelor’s degree in neuroscience—he graduated with highest honors, but that he did not walk at his commencement ceremony.

He returned to his family home after UCR and looked for a job to no avail. He took a part time job at McDonalds for a year to pay for school. More than one person said he seemed depressed in not finding work. One said Jimmy didn’t seem to be in a good place but nothing out of the ordinary, just 20’s trials and tribulations. It seems he had really expected to land a job after his bachelors degree and be out of his parents home but it didn’t happen. He landed at a McDonalds part time. He leaves to go away for school...

******

June 2011 James homes started his doctoral neuroscience program at University of Colorado Anschutz Campus. As a grad student he worked for the university in the research program in the programs that he was studying—it is a paid position.

He received a speeding ticket in Oct 2011.

Last semester (winter?) he did very poorly on his comprehensive exams and the school was considering placing him on academic probation, but was not considering expulsion. About May his grades fell and he began the process of dropping out of school. He left the dorms at the end of April.

May 2011 he took up residence at an apt on Paris Street(a student-housing complex), just a few blocks from the university. The apartments were about 850 sq foot, one bdrm and one bath and about $525 per month. Described as “not true ghetto, it’s not the safest neighborhood but it is improving”.

Holmes would sit on the roof of his apt with his backback and watch. He would go the Zephyr Lounge, sit quietly in a corner booth and have a Budweiser, but never joined in the singing. “He would just sit by himself”.

A neuroscience faculty member at Colorado who said he taught Holmes said he immediately thought of Holmes when he heard that a student was accused of the shooting. The faculty member said Holmes was “very quiet, strangely quiet in class” and seemed “socially off.”

All four were purchased legally, beginning in May, from two national chain stores: Gander Mountain Guns and Bass Pro Shops

James Holmes bought one of the four guns — the first of two .40-caliber Glock pistols — on May 22 at Gander Mountain in Aurora, Colo.

On May 28, Holmes purchased the Remington 870 shotgun from Bass Pro Shops in Denver.

On June 7, Holmes bought the AR-15 assault rifle used in the attacks at a Gander Mountain store in Thornton, Colo.

On July 6, Holmes returned to the Bass Pro Shops store in Denver and bought the other Glock pistol

“Bass pro Shops: Based on the records we have reviewed, personnel in our Denver store correctly and fully followed all Federal requirements with respect to the sale of one shotgun and one handgun to the individual identified in this incident.”

CEO of TacticalGear.com, which said it sold Holmes a Blackhawk urban assault vest for $107, along with a triple pistol magazine, an M16 magazine pouch and a silver knife.

In the past 60 days, police said, Holmes bought more than 6,000 rounds of ammunition, at gun shops and over the Internet.

In addition to two canisters, perhaps holding teargas, four weapons were found at the scene, Oates said.

• Two were .40-caliber handguns, made by Glock. At least one of those was used, the police chief said. Holmes had purchased more than 3,000 rounds of .40-caliber ammunition, Oates said.

• One shotgun, a Remington Model 870, one of the most popular models. Pump action, single barrel, 12 gauge, with 300 rounds.

• And one Smith & Wesson AR-15 type rifle, .223 caliber, called by some an “assault rifle.” These weapons can accommodate large ammunition clips, and Holmes had one “drum clip” that would have carried more than 100 rounds, Oates said. With that clip, he could have fired 50 to 60 rounds in a minute, even if the rifle was considered semi-automatic, not automatic, Oates said. He had 3,000 rounds of ammunition for this rifle.

Holmes voluntarily left the doctoral neuroscience program in June 2012. He was in the process of completing withdrawal.

Doug Abraham, chief of police for the university, said Holmes left the school in June and his access to campus buildings was terminated while his withdrawal was being processed. Entry cards were confiscated.

http://denver.cbslocal.com/2012/07/20/police-shooting-suspect-told-officers-he-was-the-joker/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9416731/Batman-cinema-shooting-Under-the-radar-the-easy-going-PhD-student-with-no-friends.html

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/20/us-usa-shooting-denver-profile-idUSBRE86J19H20120720

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/us/colorado-theater-suspect-profile/

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/20/12854157-aurora-suspect-james-holmes-was-buying-guns-dropping-out-of-graduate-school?lite

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/20/us-usa-shooting-denver-profile-idUSBRE86J19H20120720

http://tucsoncitizen.com/arizona-news/2012/07/20/source-suspect-bought-guns-within-past-2-months/

http://ramona.patch.com/articles/colorado-movie-theater-shooting-suspect-has-san-diego-ties

http://www.delcotimes.com/articles/2012/07/21/news/doc500a17ebde3c1291996939.txt?viewmode=2

http://www.delcotimes.com/articles/2012/07/21/news/doc500a17ebde3c1291996939.txt?viewmode=4


32 posted on 07/21/2012 5:40:21 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Thank you, and I agree. It also makes us look like paranoid and reactionary.


33 posted on 07/21/2012 5:41:34 PM PDT by snarkytart (http://www.freerepubli224%2C1)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Thank you, and I agree. It also makes us look like paranoid and reactionary.


34 posted on 07/21/2012 5:41:54 PM PDT by snarkytart (http://www.freerepubli224%2C1)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

All these Occupy-related posts are just blog/aggregators - all just regurgitating the same opinion of some PI in Florida. I don’t see any evidence.

I think he’s just a schizo who snapped.


35 posted on 07/21/2012 5:42:35 PM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: Right Wing Assault

“OWS had a disclaimer that the post was from a contributor to the website and was NOT an official comment from them.”

As far as I’m concerned OWS is complicit. They have been SCREAMING for the 99% to, essentially, ‘take out’ the 1% (since people going to a movie at that hour are clearly the 1%), and now they got what they called for. THEY SHOULD BE PROUD. Their revolution has begun. Only 2,999,988 more people to ‘take out’ in their eyes.

(how does it feel, OWS, to be treated like the Tea Party)


36 posted on 07/21/2012 5:43:46 PM PDT by BobL
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To: BobL

Well, not every fan going to that movie at that hour is a rich person. Some are of modest means but can spare the time.


37 posted on 07/21/2012 5:46:16 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: BobL
(since people going to a movie at that hour are clearly the 1%),

Wow, if they believe movie goers are in the 1%, they're even more deranged then I thought.

38 posted on 07/21/2012 5:47:45 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

PING


39 posted on 07/21/2012 5:48:10 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So what is Occupy Black Block?


40 posted on 07/21/2012 5:50:14 PM PDT by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; InterceptPoint; aruanan
The Black Bloc (Link) is not a color/racial group. It's the Anarchist faction (Another Link).

They're into rioting, vandalism, chaos.

41 posted on 07/21/2012 5:52:07 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Irenic

Bookmark


42 posted on 07/21/2012 5:52:30 PM PDT by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: gitmo
That's where you get a short sharp shock from a cheap and chippy chopper (see The Mikado)
43 posted on 07/21/2012 5:53:02 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: fatnotlazy

I’m just trying to figure out how he had the money to purchase his arsenal if he was unemployed, as has been reported.

EBT card????


44 posted on 07/21/2012 5:54:07 PM PDT by bikerman (Obama lied,economy died.)
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To: Meet the New Boss

Doesn’t the Obama administration sympathize with the OWS crowd?


45 posted on 07/21/2012 5:54:07 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Meet the New Boss
But it is possible that this scumbag is BOTH mentally deranged and an OWS ideologue

I think "deranged" and "OWS ideologue" are pretty much interchangeable terms.

46 posted on 07/21/2012 5:54:36 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Las Vegas Ron

If this was plotted in accordance with OWS, which we don’t know for sure yet, if the movie goers were not seen as 1%ers surely the movie producers were. It would be kind of like shooting up the customers in a Wal Mart because Wal Mart itself is so rich.


47 posted on 07/21/2012 5:55:19 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: Cementjungle

Now, now, cowboys were deranged centuries before OWS was invented :-)


48 posted on 07/21/2012 5:56:24 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: bikerman

At least in Ill Noise you don’t get that unless you got kids... this loser was single wasn’t he?


49 posted on 07/21/2012 5:57:36 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I googled "What is Occupy Black Block".

This is 1st thing that showed up:


50 posted on 07/21/2012 5:58:43 PM PDT by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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