Posted on 07/21/2012 5:18:25 PM PDT by madprof98
It aint my daddys navy anymore ,WWII veteran
Good God what a barf fest.
Good God what a disgusting barf fest.
Right.
And it sure as hell is not my USMC anymore.
How f*****g disgusting. What an example he must set for those in his charge...
Signed,
A Retired Navy Senior Chief
No wonder urinals are being removed....
I never thought I’d live to see that uniform disgraced like that.....it makes me sick..
When I think back to the crowded barracks and living on board ship in the berthing area... I would have a extremely difficult time know that Petty Officer ****** was gay.
It would be as if I as a guy was suddenly put into a berthing area that was all female. Just total overwhelming temptation and that just my over-acting hormones going.
This ‘experiment’ is not going to end well and I expect that overall shipboard morale and readiness is going to plummet. I foresee more ‘man overboard’ incidents and if combat occurs... Well you might see more losses there too and for a myriad of reasons.
San Diego Pride - http://www.sandiegopride.com It rolls over to another site, but appears to be “the official site” for San Diego parade perversity. God help American!
I suspect that enlistments will drop and in a few years there will be talk of bringing back the draft.
I wonder if they could march in a pro-life event?
This is just wrong.
Charlton Heston called it a “culture war” and we are losing. The communist infiltrators are getting everything they want. They can’t take God out of my heart, but they are getting everything they want with regards to destroying the US Constitution, state sovereignty, and the cohesive loving family.
“Tear it all down man! Bring it all down man!”
Someday, the United States is going to pay for destroying NASA just so Islamofascists could feel good about themselves.
an officer and a pipesmoker.
It’s too late. Just try and defend your home.
Saw today that not only Google but also eBay have joined the battle on behalf of gay marriage. But just let a business owner say NO, as the Chick-fil-A chief did, and the media brand him a vicious bigot. It's surreal.
I think the fags in the military would do whatever their pro-fag-in-the-military-commander-in-chief wanted them to do, regardless of its constitutionality. that's what I think.
This is decadence. You can spin this anyway you like, but it is emblematic of a declining America. America is no longer the land of the stoic yeomen that Jefferson celebrated but has devolved into neo pagan earth worshiping pleasure seekers.
ebay and google? they exist on a few hard drives. if enough databases had enough malfunctions, they would be but a memory.
I suspect that enlistments will drop and in a few years there will be talk of bringing back the draft.
A very good point. Just imagine the indoctrination that would be possible then! Especially with the UCMJ to back up the Gay Mafia’s agenda.
I think this is more media saturation than anything else. It looks like the gays are taking over everything but i suspect it’s just the constant images of gays seen on the media.
they have had some wins but only when it’s a top-down controlled institution, or bribed sentators as in New York.
It seems like ordinary people are losing this war but I really think constant images of gays in the media are only making it appear that way.
As for the military, the gays and lesbians are going to be in the Medical Corps and JAG, they are not going to be on the front lines.
What scares me is that our senators and congressmen are going to be intimidated by this constant media barrage, celebratory gays ‘winning’ on all counts etc. Intimidated and fooled into thinking ‘well there’s no turning back now’. Wrong.
I served in the Navy years ago. This is no longer my Navy.
Loathsome. Repugnant. Degenerate. Dishonorable.
I need my thesaurus for more.
Just. Freaking. Sickening.
Same here. This is utterly disgusting.
That's the whole purpose for this crap.
I mean, isn’t there a time-honored military technique of generating loud explosions, noise etc. etc., to make the enemy think there are more of you than there really are?
This is what the media is doing with endless pictures and headlines about gays ‘winning’. They ain’t.
Pro life event or a Tea Party rally in uniform would probably get them a court martial.
I am the same as you and it makes me sick to see where women and queers are taking all the services.
Either enforce the policy or rescind it. You can't have it both ways in the military.
It's no longer my Army, Air Force, Navy or Marines.
“I think this is more media saturation than anything else. It looks like the gays are taking over everything but i suspect it’s just the constant images of gays seen on the media.”
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Though the perverts have made inroads, many of us would never have thought possible, that is an excellent and optimistic point.
Castles made of sand....
Yep. I feel the same way. It isn’t just the Navy, though, and anyone who thinks it is, is only fooling themselves.
I have been saying for years that there is a reason the homosexual lobby has gone after the military.
If they make it acceptable in the military, they have won.
Well, they won. And they know it.
Why is it that an obsession over genitals has become a cause celebre?
All these people want is to be gable to grab their own....on some one else.
Why the hell didn’t the retired Generals/Admirals come out as a group against this when it was being debated
squarebarb, they DID just win.
I wrote this about two years ago:
I had the opportunity about 6 months ago to spend some time with a former USMC and Air National Guard pilot who retired as a Col. after 28 years. He had flown combat in Desert Storm and Operation Iraqi Freedom. He had flown every fighter in the US inventory except for the F-22, and as I sat in his house looking at all the plaques on the wall, I could easily see this guy was Sierra Hotel. He’d gone to all schools, Top Gun, you name it. He had testimonials, pictures of him with famous people shaking hands, you could tell he made a mark.
His son was 16 years old. He was an impressive looking kid, crewcut, very athletic build, the most notable thing about him was his bearing. He met me at the door when I arrived, very polite and well spoken. He was wearing a USMC T-shirt, and looked like he was already in the Marines.
I spent about 4 hours with this career aviator, who had just retired from the military and was now flying Boeing airliners to Japan. He was a devout Christian, and told me that he had tendered his resignation because of the pro-homosexual policies he saw coming down from above. He did confess to me that the decision was probably easier for him to make because he was closer to retirement, and that there were going to be many younger officers like him who were going to be forced to make a decision that wasn’t going to be nearly as easy as his because they still had much of their careers in front of them.
He told me that he had made some DVDs dealing with the subject, but had not release them for public consumption. He talked to me about the homosexual agenda, and what their goals were. This man was not a bug eyed, spittle lipped fanatic. He was a well educated, religious man who spoke in even terms about this issue.
He spoke about his son. He said his son was trying to obtain an Olympic slot in judo, and had been preparing to join the Marines. He said that his son was very focused, and had his religion. His son stood off to the side as we spoke, listening intently to us, but not interrupting us. I must say that I was astonished that his son was only 16 years old. He seemed completely and totally mature and adult, in complete control of himself. His father turned to his son and said “Tell him what you’re reading right now.”
His son said that he was reading a book named “The Book of Chivalry”. (This Is a Write up from Amazon.Com: The Book of Chivalry is the most pragmatic of all surviving chivalric manuals. Written at the height of the Hundred Years War, it includes the essential commonplaces of knighthood in the mid-fourteenth century and gives a close-up view of what one knight in particular absorbed of the medieval world of ideas around him, what he rejected or ignored, and what he added from his experience in camp, court, and campaign. Geoffroi de Charny was one of the quintessential figures of his age, with honors and praise bestowed upon him from both sides of the English Channel. He prepared the Book of Chivalry as a guide for members of the Company of the Star, a new but short-lived order of knights created by Jean II of France in 1352 to rival the English Order of the Garter. Elspeth Kennedy here edits the original French text of Charny and provides a facing-page translation for the modern reader. Richard. W. Kaeuper’s historical study places both man and his work in full context. In the formal themes that give Charny’s book structure, and in his many tangential comments and asides, this work proves a rich source for investigating questions about the political, military, religious, and social history of the later Middle Ages. With this translation, the prowess and piety of knights, their capacity to express themselves, their common assumptions, their views on masculine virtue, women, and love once more come vividly to life.)
I think this book would’ve been difficult reading for me, and I consider myself pretty well read and well spoken. His son expounded at length for about 10 min. on this book. Not once did he hem or haw, pause, say the phrases “uh”, “ahh”, “you know”, or worst of all, “like”. He talked about the concepts in the book, and how the core of the book was about caring for people who are weaker than you are, and that was what chivalry was really all about. It was astonishing. The 16-year-old kid seemed so mature and focused, I hadn’t really met a 16-year-old kid like him before.
His father told me (while his son was standing there) that his son was going to wait until he was married to engage in a sexual relationship. He then turned to his son and said something to the effect of “This is his choice of his own free will, not mine. We’ve talked about this at length, and he has told me how terrible it would be if I were to go out and engage in promiscuous relationships, and how ashamed he, as my son, would feel about my behavior. As an extension, he understands how will it affect him in our relationship if he were to engage in such behavior.” When I looked at his son, he looked easily at and said with no discomfort, shame or reticence “It’s true.”
His father turned to me and said “My son had been planning to join the Marines. He had been considering making a career of the military. He has decided, because of these policies towards homosexuality, that he is not going to enter the military.” His father continued “These people, running things, implementing these rules and policies, would have my son at their mercy. Just think of what people like that would do to a young man like him. No, I did not influence his decision in any way. But if he had asked my counsel, I would have advised him of exactly the same course.”
I was stunned and dismayed. I looked at this young man who seemed incredibly talented, exactly the kind of person we want in our military. Thoughtful, educated, principled and mature. If you never read the book “Once an Eagle” by Anton Myrer, this kid would likely have been a living embodiment of the main character in that book, a book that is routinely read at the military academies to teach leadership.
Our government is driving away the kind of people our military has had, and needs the most, to continue to be the best in the world, and instead is openly recruiting and attracting the exact opposite. Taking all of this in was devastating to me. I saw immediately the devastation that these kind of policies regarding homosexuality are going to have our military.
I think that is why this particular incident hit me so hard.
I suspect that enlistments will drop and in a few years there will be talk of bringing back the draft.
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Yes, but picture the rash of draft dodgers with the reason being “I won’t serve with them” and straights being forced to, at the least, accept the ‘gay’ life style.
Then the ‘gays’, like the Blacks before them,will be able to say - “Qwiturbitchin you had it your way long enough, now you will abide by what I say”....
See, all those little 10% (so called) fringe groups the Libs have been promoting for years are finally coming home to roost and have formed an almost insurmountable permanent lead over the R’s....
You can’t have it both ways in the military.
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Obviously you can...
I never thought I would live to see this. I almost wish I hadn’t.
The point lost in this debate is that many military recruits come from “Jesusland,” portions of the western and southern United States that still embrace traditional values. If the economy ever improves, you’ll find more young men and women from these areas foregoing military service, because the armed forces are too busy trying to shove the gay agenda down their throats. At that point, you won’t have nearly as many patriotic volunteers to defend what’s left of this country.
Fact is, many of the young people in places like SF and NYC don’t want to serve. A few years ago, the Heritage Foundation did a great analysis of military recruiting, in rebuttal to Charlie Rangel’s claim that most of the troops dying in Iraq and Afghanistan were poor and members of minority groups. Dr. Tim Kaine of Heritage found that most of the combat casualties came from the south, Midwest and West, and their family incomes were above the national average. Meanwhile, in the year of recruiting data analyzed by Heritage, no a single young person from Rangel’s Harlem district joined the U.S. military.
One more thing: did I mention that the same young people who form the backbone of today’s military—the same ones from areas that retain traditional values—are overly-represented in armed forces units/positions that are difficult to fill, such as pilot and special forces?
Soon anyone who joins the military will be a suspected homosexual.
THEN it’s all over.
May all those who allowed this abomination to happen be damned the fires of hell.
My son has some similar aspects to this young man. I have beeen talking with him for the past couple of years. We have seen the direction of the country, the horrific ROE that the military labors under, the rampant polictical correctness, the leftist leadership and the coming totalitarian rule and we both agree that the military is not in his future.
My son would have been a valuable asset to the military, but it will not offer him a future that he could stand by.
So is Romney going to repeal this or what? Does the GOP have a ten year plan on how they will fight this?
Nope, didn’t think so. Conservatives are a movement without a party.
CORRECTION:
The point lost in this debate is that many military recruits USED TO come from “Jesusland,” portions of the western and southern United States that still embrace traditional values.
So is Romney going to repeal this or what? Does the GOP have a ten year plan on how they will fight this?
Nope, didn’t think so. Conservatives are a movement without a party.
So is Romney going to repeal this or what? Does the GOP have a ten year plan on how they will fight this?
Nope, didn’t think so. Conservatives are a movement without a party.
Without a commercial ticket and thousands of hours of heavy multi-engine time, your anecdote, as described, doesn't pass the smell test.
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