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Coburn donates to Manchin, says fellow senator not beholden to special interests ($250)
The Hill ^ | July 21, 2012 | By Alexander Bolton

Posted on 07/22/2012 2:08:55 AM PDT by SMGFan

Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) says he supports Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin’s re-election because he believes Manchin is not beholden to short-sighted political interests.

Coburn recently gave $250 to Manchin’s re-election campaign.

“I think he votes thinking about the long-term interests of the country. We don’t agree on everything but he’s a good guy,” Coburn told The Hill.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 112th; coburn; donors; manchin
But why even bother?
1 posted on 07/22/2012 2:09:05 AM PDT by SMGFan
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To: SMGFan

And then the Republican Party has the nerve to ask for donations.


2 posted on 07/22/2012 2:25:46 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD

I think in the context of the US Senate , the long-term interest is not Harry Reid as Majority leader. Okay, Manchin won’t admit he will vote for BHO. Maybe he will not, but will he definitely vote for Dingy Harry?


3 posted on 07/22/2012 2:30:33 AM PDT by SMGFan (SMGfan is not "Sub Machine Gun" fan)
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To: HarleyD

This. Manchion is an obvious fraud. Coburn just gets stranger as the years pass on by.


4 posted on 07/22/2012 2:47:32 AM PDT by LongWayHome
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To: SMGFan

Sorry. That doesn’t fly. It should be apparent to everyone right now these Democrats march lock step with one another. Manchin belongs to a party that supports gays rights, Planned Parenthood, environmental wackos, higher debt, on and on and on. He belongs to a party that takes great pains to refuse to let the Republicans put forth amendments and even locks them out of crafting bills. When Manchin gets up on television and start doing the true and honorable thing by taking concret action about Fast and Furious, shady regulatory dealings of this administration, or dubious appointments then we could talk. People are absolutely crazy to support a Democrat and any Republican who supports a Democrat should be called into question about what they truly believe and support. After all, Tom Coburn is supporting all the Democrats stand for.


5 posted on 07/22/2012 2:50:22 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: HarleyD
George Bush fetes Teddy Kennedy at the White House.

George Bush rehabilitates Bill Clinton by appointing him co-chairman with his own father on international relief missions.

John McCain tells faithful Republicans during the campaign that they need not fear Obama as President.

We either have a true two-party adversarial system or we have rule by a super party of elites.


6 posted on 07/22/2012 2:56:17 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: SMGFan

What happened to Coburn? Didn’t he used to be decent?


7 posted on 07/22/2012 2:57:07 AM PDT by Piranha (If you seek perfection you will end up with Democrats.)
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To: SMGFan

Anyone who is looking to DC for a solution to the problems that DC creates is out of their mind.

This election is just a fight between which bunch of degenerate crooks liars and thieves gets to control the cash extorted from taxpayers by the IRS, nothing more, nothing less.

What has the GOP done to get rid of the IRS and repeal the 16th amendment?

Not a goddamned thing.

The Republicans like to talk tough about taxes, but are part of the same Federal Apparatus the Democrats are.

The IRS extortionists have nothing to fear from the blowhards in the GOP


8 posted on 07/22/2012 3:10:35 AM PDT by Rome2000 (WILLARD ROMNEY -- MORMON MELCHIDEZEK BISHOP -HIS FAMILY HAS AVOIDED MILITARY SERVICE FOR GENERATIONS)
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To: nathanbedford

we have a rule by a super party of elites.

Did I guess right ? What do I win ??


9 posted on 07/22/2012 3:12:06 AM PDT by onona (6.5 out of 8 apple trees I planted this year are toast. Very sad.)
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To: SMGFan

We ARE the STUPID PARTY!!


10 posted on 07/22/2012 3:33:23 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: onona

You win four more years of socialism and moral decline.


11 posted on 07/22/2012 3:49:00 AM PDT by Buddy Sorrell (No more Zero anymore!)
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To: SMGFan; fieldmarshaldj

Prepping for a Manchin party switch if the Republicans win the Senate majority.


12 posted on 07/22/2012 3:59:31 AM PDT by Skulllspitter
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To: Skulllspitter

Coburn better know something we don’t, and I hope your right, but still....we are at the most critical time in this nations history for the need to take back the Senate and this IDIOT RINO decides to donate to a sitting Democrat?? I haven’t donated to the GOP since Bush’s illegal alien amnesty fiaso in his 2nd term, and I never will now.


13 posted on 07/22/2012 4:13:08 AM PDT by MachIV
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To: Skulllspitter

Great. A party switcher from the Lieberman wing.


14 posted on 07/22/2012 4:14:52 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: Skulllspitter

Manchin would never do that. There’s no Republican party in WV worth mentioning. Manchin, his family and most of his cronies have been mobbed up for years.


15 posted on 07/22/2012 4:18:58 AM PDT by meatloaf (Support Senate S 1863 & House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: SMGFan

Has this guy lost his mind?


16 posted on 07/22/2012 4:37:01 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: nathanbedford

“or we have rule by a super party of elites”.

Indeed. Until we over rule it.


17 posted on 07/22/2012 4:51:06 AM PDT by liberty or death
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To: Skulllspitter

For only $250? Money goes much further in WVA? :)


18 posted on 07/22/2012 4:57:59 AM PDT by SMGFan (SMGfan is not "Sub Machine Gun" fan)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Coburn is going RINO big time for a while. Manchin voted lock step with the DEMS the minute he was elected to the Senate. However,he needs to stand up for the coal miners of WV, but, will he? I’m disgusted with Coburn and have been for the past few years when he started going neo on us.

Maybe he thinks he’ll never lose his Senate seat. Oklahoma voters will have to decide that for him. Oklahoma was the only state in the union during the 2008 election in which all of its counties voted RED. (McCain/Palin) Perhaps the good voters of that state need to put a fire under their boy.


19 posted on 07/22/2012 5:17:07 AM PDT by Catsrus
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To: HarleyD

I have donated to Colonel Allen West who is running in my district.
As for the RNC, I send their donation pleas back and tell them when they QUIT supporting RINO pukes maybe then will I give them anything.


20 posted on 07/22/2012 5:27:19 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: HarleyD

Yep, they called here twice last week asking for money. Why bother if they’re going to urn around and give it to the Rats?


21 posted on 07/22/2012 5:41:26 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Timber Rattler

I have jumped on their ass so many times when they call that they have stopped calling.


22 posted on 07/22/2012 5:52:21 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: SMGFan

Tom Coburn is a Traitorous,Treasonous POS! During the 2010 lameduck session, Late on the Sunday night five days before Christmas, Coburn let pass by ‘Unanimous Consent’,the stalinist ‘Food Safety and Modernization Act’. This stalinist nightmare,allows the government to control the food supply,by over regulation and use denial of food as a weapon against the American people. It even allows Obama control over Home Gardens. Coburn promised he would bury the legislation and then when he thought no one was looking,days before Christmas,he used his single vote to push this monstrosity through. Coburn thinks we all forgot about that, we haven’t!Coburn has also proclaimed his affection for Obama saying,” I love the guy”! He’s threatened numerous times,to have liberal legislation like Obamacare read in order to delay it,on the way to burying it,only to cave in and not follow through on his threats.

He’s built up his high ACU rating,by voting for Conservative Bills he has no chance of passing and voting against liberal Bills he has no chance of stopping. He also virtually lives at msnbc. A total Bleephead!


23 posted on 07/22/2012 5:56:36 AM PDT by mark1973
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To: nathanbedford
or we have rule by a super party of elites.

Hey, you're starting to get it now!

24 posted on 07/22/2012 6:08:05 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (not voting for the lesser of two evils)
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To: SMGFan

I’ve been under the impression for many years that Coburn is a political ho!


25 posted on 07/22/2012 6:58:52 AM PDT by Tucker39 ( Psa 68:19Blessed be the Lord, who daily loadeth us with benefits; even the God of our salvation.KJV)
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To: SMGFan; meatloaf; fieldmarshaldj
For only $250? Money goes much further in WVA? :)

It's not a bribe; it's a symbolic overture. I doubt Manchin (& Earl Ray, et al) care primarily about ideology - it's about power. So if the Republicans take control of the Senate, he would like to be in the majority. It's easy for him now since Harry Reid doesn't let the Senate vote on anything and he can talk conservative all day long for the folks back home. But with a closely divided Senate under a GOP majority, Manchin would have to take stands on tough issues again and again and he doesn't have the stomach for it.

As a Republican, Manchin would probably line up with the leadership most of the time, more than a Collins/Brown type. Maybe like Ben Nighthorse Campbell.

WV has two GOP Congresscritters now and votes GOP in presidential races. They can read the writing on the wall. It's just a matter of when.

26 posted on 07/22/2012 7:34:36 AM PDT by Skulllspitter
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To: SMGFan

How many of the comments are from Okies?

I’m not one, but I’ve crossed the Big Red more than a few times back and forth.

Oklahoma has a lot in common with Texas, politically, only MORE so.

Almost all TX Republicans used to be Democrats if they’ve been around long enough.

In OK the Democrats have held sway longer than they did in TX.

JC Watts was a Dem turned Republican. Many registered Dems voted for him or he would’ve never been elected. I’m not promoting Watts, just giving you a for instance.

The Dems in OK and TX mostly were not the same as the national Dems. This has been explained on threads where Rick Perry was vilely attacked for having once been a Democrat. Some Dems in these states were libs, but many of them voted for Reagan and some even voted for Ike and Nixon.

They continued to vote in other races for Dems for years after they didn’t like the national Dem candidates. Many of these voted for Jimmy Carter over Gerald Ford, though. Then dumped Jimmuh for the Gipper.

This is Coburn’s background. I do believe he has grown up around and known a lot of OKie Dems he thinks are good people.

I’m not excusing him, because the evidence is that gone are the days when we can afford to give an inch to ANY Democrat.

I’m explaining Coburn’s mindset. It’s old school. It’s outdated. But it’s based on a former reality that’s understandable.

What else might be wrong with Coburn is a debate for another day


27 posted on 07/22/2012 8:11:59 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: HarleyD

agree


28 posted on 07/22/2012 8:20:19 AM PDT by nevermorelenore
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To: Venturer

They don’t call me anymore either. Got a call from a Herman Cain project yesterday. Herman is backing Conservatives across the country....good for him.


29 posted on 07/22/2012 8:22:30 AM PDT by jch10 (Fail to the Chief!)
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To: txrangerette; Clintonfatigued; Impy; Clemenza; Skulllspitter; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy

The problem with Perry is many of us felt his party switch was completely and thoroughly opportunistic and he has never been an authentic Conservative (the same goes for the TX Lieutenant Governor DewCrist as well). They operate like the good ole boy Southern Democrats that held sway down here for almost 140 years, exactly the kind of folks worked so hard to run out of office.

As for Coburn, he has lived up to my adage that most Conservatives spoil in DC after 6 years. He’s been there 14 out of the last 20 years. If he’s giving campaign contributions to left-wing Democrats like Manchin (he’s not center-right, kids, his voting record is 75% liberal), we have a serious problem. Manchin is the very epitome of the good ole boy Democrat establishment in West Virginia, corrupt and statist to the core and running the show now almost uninterrupted since the 1932/Great Depression elections ended the GOP majority there (which contrasted to the rest of the South — WV was like Baja Western Pennsylvania, also heavily GOP until 1932 and only slowly returning to that preference).


30 posted on 07/22/2012 8:43:34 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: nathanbedford

Good Morning to You and Yours

...and John Boehner lauded Charlie Wrangel, the Democrat tax cheat at an evening in Wrangel’s honor...

Yes, the elites are all Siamese twins, but what joins them at the hip is more than a mere “Wille zur Macht.”

Like the Russian soldiers in WWII who indeed wanted the Nazi invaders dead, we must remember that behind them were the NKVD enforcers - turning back would get you shot by them, instead of the WaffenSS.

What also keeps all of the elites pushing in the same megalomanic direction is the MAD - mutually assured destruction - deriving from the incredible dirt they all have on each other.

I am certain that a massive majority, if not all, of the Beltway crowd know that Obama is a complete fraud: birth “certificate”, SSN, etc. Just as they knew about Clinton’s Dixie Mafia.

But they and their “Borg” media are given over to reprobate minds. Morally corrupted and immune to wisdom, courage, clarity.

The time is short. Leave the cities and prepare.

Shabbat Shalom b’Shem Y’shua


31 posted on 07/22/2012 8:49:52 AM PDT by esopman (Blessings on Freepers Everywhere, and Their Supremely Intelligent Designer)
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To: SMGFan

Just what does Coburn not understand about the disease that infects all Democrats and why it makes them Democrats?

All Democrats are infected by liberalism and the burning desire to hold all blameless for their own actions.

Come to think of it, Republicans also have a disease called Political Correctness. However, the ravages this disease can only be cured by growing a pair. Female Republicans (with the exception of Maine Republicans) can’t grow a pair, but can grow a “backbone.”


32 posted on 07/22/2012 9:09:19 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: SMGFan

Yes, and Coburn also has described Pelosi and Obama as “really good people.”

Watch for this sniveling little s.o.b. to show up on Scarborough tomorrow and whinge about how difficult it is to “work across the aisle”.

Meanwhile Coburn’s loathesome Democrat love-buddies in the Senate strike down or stall every meaningful bill (and there ain’t many of them) that comes their way.

What a scoundrel, what a scumbag. The moral and intellectual equivalent of Nebraska’s Chuckroast Hagel.


33 posted on 07/22/2012 9:17:40 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Catsrus
Coburn is going RINO big time for a while. Manchin voted lock step with the DEMS the minute he was elected to the Senate. However,he needs to stand up for the coal miners of WV, but, will he? I’m disgusted with Coburn and have been for the past few years when he started going neo on us.

Maybe he thinks he’ll never lose his Senate seat. Oklahoma voters will have to decide that for him. Oklahoma was the only state in the union during the 2008 election in which all of its counties voted RED. (McCain/Palin) Perhaps the good voters of that state need to put a fire under their boy.

Senator Coburn's term is up in 2016 and he has announced that he will not be a candidate for reelection.

Manchin has purportedly been involved in negotiations with leadership on both sides with respect to coal legislation. Obviously, there is more to the issue than coal from our point of view however there is some room to believe that he might in fact change parties.

Problem is that if his vote is the last vote, his bargaining power with the Dems is so great that they would promise anything; and if his vote is not the last vote, it is worth something to the R's only if he is also there on court nominees and other important issues.

34 posted on 07/22/2012 10:07:17 AM PDT by David
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To: SMGFan

et tu Tom????

What could be wrong with Tom?? Whatever is effecting him, I hope he recovers his reasoning ability before too long.


35 posted on 07/22/2012 10:41:32 AM PDT by SUSSA
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To: David

Gov. Palin didn’t say anything negative against Sen. Manchin when she campaigned for the guy that was running against him.

Gov. Palin had worked with Gov. Manchin. As I remember Gov. Manchin has never said anything negative about Gov. Palin.


36 posted on 07/22/2012 10:44:50 AM PDT by Truth101A
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To: SMGFan

Is Coburn trying to induce Manchin to change parties? Looks like it. Wset VA is not happy with the Democrats these days.


37 posted on 07/22/2012 1:08:54 PM PDT by Gumdrop
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To: Gumdrop

Maybe Rockefeller will retire? Would they vote him out? Would GOP have other than Raese in ‘14?


38 posted on 07/22/2012 1:23:38 PM PDT by SMGFan (SMGfan is not "Sub Machine Gun" fan)
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To: Catsrus
Coburn looks like the typical 'outsider' who became an 'insider' very quickly.

These guys all need to be term limited out.

39 posted on 07/22/2012 7:03:50 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: LongWayHome; SMGFan; HarleyD; nevermorelenore; fieldmarshaldj; GOPsterinMA; BillyBoy; ...
Manchion is an obvious fraud. Coburn just gets stranger as the years pass on by.

It's called senility. Pure and simple. What he did is unjustifiable in any circumstance let alone this one. (couldn't find a conservative Republican that could have used some money eh Senator Coburn?) I'm real glad he's retiring after his current term.

If Manchin EVER comes over to our side (I would put odds of that at less than 10%) it will be because we have the Senate already and look likely to keep it. The man is good old boy scum and currently happy being in the party of Osama, Pelosi, and Reid.

It's a shame all we are throwing at him is John Raese again.

40 posted on 07/23/2012 6:23:04 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy

I don’t think it’s senility yet (he’s 64). I mean, look at his seatmate James Inhofe (who turns 78). He’s been in DC 12 years longer than Coburn (indeed, Inhofe has been in office for all but 4 years since his election to the OK state legislature in 1966 — so that is 42 out of 46 years) and he’s been fairly excellent for a long-timer. How many times have we heard complaints about Sen. Inhofe ? I can’t recall a single serious problem.

As was mentioned, if Manchin switches, he would be about the most liberal Senate Democrat since Ben Nighthorse Campbell to do so (and Campbell’s reason for switching was personal — and he was never an establishment Dem, as Manchin certainly is in his state).

Of course, WV Democrats do have a dilemma. The federal party is absolutely toxic in the state, and that will have a trickle-down effect. The GOP is underrepresented at the state and legislative level (where at present, they have zero statewide). Interestingly, the GOP was on track to majority status at the legislative level just prior to Watergate, but that knocked them out and they actually haven’t recovered the early ‘70s numbers. Personally, I think it will be difficult for the Democrats to maintain that huge majority (at present, still 65D-35R in the House and an absurd 28D-6R majority in the Senate — and the margin was just 21D-13R going into the 2006 elections, and the GOP lost 2 seats in 2010).

I think WV is similar to AR (with some notable differences) and I believe it might break for the GOP downballot once the top offices go (and that might begin to happen this year).


41 posted on 07/23/2012 7:12:01 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Skulllspitter

Yes Inhofe is solid.

If he’s not losing his mind then I guess Coburn is just a fool. Add this to him not being able to shut about his warm personal feelings for Osama.

Why DID Campbell switch? He wasn’t a 100% liberal but that’s got to be one of the most surprising party switches ever.


42 posted on 07/24/2012 11:49:23 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy

Campbell was supposedly having problems with other CO Democrats that seemed to stem from his upset primary victory in 1992. I seem to recall as well that he cited his jewelry-making business (that he was penalized for maintaining it while those members “writing” books on the side were not). The final straw was his anger over the Dems opposing the balanced budget amendment.

It was interesting that Barone speculated that Campbell was going to exit the Senate after a term and run for Governor back in 1998 (which never happened). Of course, given the disaster that Bill Owens turned out to be (after initially looking like he was future Presidential material), Campbell might not’ve been necessarily any worse. Of course, Campbell is one of the few pols whose voting record improved with time in DC.


43 posted on 07/25/2012 1:04:04 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: SMGFan

This is the snake who back stabbed Gingrich on Fox a lot saying he was an erratic leader. I smelled something then I did not like about him and now this backs it up even more.


44 posted on 07/26/2012 1:57:10 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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