Posted on 07/22/2012 6:40:48 AM PDT by SMGFan
In final acts of valor, Jon Blunk, Matt McQuinn and Alex Teves used their bodies to shield their girlfriends as accused madman James Holmes turned the Aurora cineplex into a shooting gallery.
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No Brain. Technically Ex-girlfriend since she now is his fiance. The guy proposed to her in the hospital and she accepted!! No lie!
Then they will all hire the guys who aren't smart enough to work for TSA (IQ under 70) to do strip searches and fondling of their customers.
There is a substantial subset of the Goth subculture that is right wing. Been there, done that, in the mid-late eighties. I’ve understood it to have expanded since, though some are right wing in the European model with all the baggage that that entails, and more are classical liberal in the vein of right-libertarian. The left-libertarians gravitate to the anarchists, the burn it all down crowd, which is another subgroup with little crossover. For all their apparent decadence and disregard for societal norms, there’s a sort of love for history there, distorted though it may be, that would preclude any nihilist desire to destroy anything but themselves.
’d say the lessons learned are:
1) Make sure your CC (concealed carry) weapons have a well adjusted laser.
2) Target practice like crazy, practicing shooting while diving, running, jumping out of helicopters and repelling down walls if possible
3) save lives first then worry about CC restriction laws later
Several people doing 1, 2 and 3 in the theater might not have helped anything but it could have evened the odds when his AK jammed.
However, when a company issues a stated policy of restricting law-abiding gun owners from bringing weapons into their place of business, they have effectively taken upon themselves the responsibility of keeping their customers safe.
So -- yeah, I think Cinemark is going to be sued out of existence. And rightfully so, if they do in fact have a documented policy prohibiting people from carrying weapons into their place of busines.
See my last post. If the theater did not have the resources on hand to protect its patrons, then it should have had no policy at all about allowing people into the theater with guns. They would have been better off being silent about the whole thing, and deferring to state law as a legitimate defense if they ever faced a lawsuit under the circumstances you’ve described.
I will wager a rather large sum of money that the issue over which they are sued is failure to keep the perp and his weapons out, not their policy of prohibiting concealed carry by patrons.
More to the (legal) point: Cinemark, by prohibiting the means of self defense, accepted responsibility for the safety of its customers, and thus are liable.
The problem here is that we're discussing a situation that can't possibly be tested because the conditions simply don't exist here. We'd have to find a comparable situation where a loony-tune carried out a similar attack in a movie theater with no policy on firearms and see how they fared in the subsequent civil lawsuits.
P.S. Personally, I wouldn’t do business with a company that had such a policy in place — because I see it as an explicit acknowledgement by the company that they cater to a customer base that includes criminals, mutants and various other assorted misfits.
I’d be quite interested to hear if you can find a national theater chain, or indeed a national chain of any sort, that doesn’t have a no weapons policy.
One thing I have noticed in the liberal blame tossing is that it parallels their blame tossing for all other types of problems.
The way to prevent theater shootings is to disarm all society.
The way to prevent crime is change society so there are no unhappy people.
The way to deal with problems in schools is to change society so everybody is equal.
IOW, liberal solutions require massive changes to society, with possible theoretical solutions to problems emerging many years down the road.
The conservative solution to this theater shooting, OTOH, is to have a dozen armed citizens in the audience return fire. Problem solved at once and on the spot. Though not nearly as simple as it sounds, given the conditions including tear gas, darkness, armored killer, etc., and likely to produce some friendly fire casualties.
BTW, I’ve been to a lot of theaters over the years. I’ve never seen a “no guns allowed” sign, though possibly I’ve just missed them. I wonder how many, if any, of the patrons were unarmed specifically because of the theater policy.
BTW, does anybody have a link to their no-gun policy? I went to their website and didn’t see anything.
no regrettably the running looser proposed to her (in the hospital) and she said yes.... guess they are going to breed more democrats
“the blood is also on their hands for their ‘Gun Free Zone’ policy.”
The lesson is: Do not do business with those who demand you cede any of your liberties.
PS Do not vote for such bachelor’s children either.
Personally, I have to plead ignorance on this one. It's been years since I've been in a movie theater, so I have no idea what these companies are doing at their individual theater locations in terms of "policies" related to weapons.
Fascinating. Everyone except me seems to have had such interesting lives ...
I didn't mean to imply that she wasn't and I agree that she and the children deserve our sympathy.
Man, I feel for you folks up there.
When we read yesterday about the cowardly Jamie Rohrs--the punk who abandoned his girlfriend, their baby, and her little daughter--many people noted that this young couple's behavior was disturbing evidence of the breakdown of the family in a me-centered generation.
So, sadly, is Jon Blunk's story. The girlfriend he rescued already has two little kids "from a previous relationship," and she thrust her affections (and her phone number) on the still-married Jon Blunk, who had left behind his wife and two small kids in another state. He was unquestionably a hero for saving his new girlfriend's life in that theater, but I doubt his small son and daughter will display this article proudly to their friends later on in life.
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