Posted on 07/22/2012 7:04:54 AM PDT by Kaslin
Usually front and back. Side gaps are common for comfort but not universal. If the media got it right on where he bought his vest (in the link I followed), it was advertised as "tactical" but it was not actually bullet proof.
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My EDC loadout changed after the Mumbai Massacre. I won't discuss details, but an ordinary CCW holder could have stopped this without resorting to exotic ninja tactics, nor illegal equipment.
Yes, but doesn't appear likely. Assuming theatre has security cams they will determine if Holmes bought a ticket.
Either FOX or CNN reported Holmes doing the Joker thing had red dyed hair and goatee. The chief at the presser said the sheriff would not release the booking photo. That is likely the reason why it is being withheld to confirm witness accounts.
Witness accounts saying he was on cell phone before leaving leads me to believe either (1) accomplice outside saying coast is clear to go outside and gear up; (2) acted like he was on the his phone as a ruse to 'explain' getting up to leave due to the call; or (3) I don't know if it possible to activate his stereo in his apartment via cell phone or not, but it was reported to come on at about the time the show started.
The timeline suggests the person was gone for about 15-20 minutes. That's about how long it would take him to put his garb on and return.
As a side note, as I understand it via one of the TV outlets, after the police broadcast that a subject was at the rear of the theater, officers spotting him initially thought he was a SWAT member, but Holmes gave away his ploy with a piece of equipment the didn't fit the SWAT gear.
Police time:
Got any real life examples of this liberal cliche'?
Figures.
Heaven save us from those who think name-calling excuses ignorance and rivals experience.
It's no worse than telling people you don't know there's no way they could have prevented it.
Indeed, such an attitude goes beyond "tacky" and straight on to supercilious.
If there had been even one single person in there with a CPL, all he would need to do is fire one round - even if it’s just into the roof of the place - and that would have put looney-tunes into a defensive posture/status instead of a stand on the stage and fire-at-will status.
There are offerings beside the steel core 5.7 that will also defeat llla body armor.
Pistols chambered for the 7.62 x 25mm Tokarev will perform similarly.
There are offerings beside the steel core 5.7 that will also defeat llla body armor.
Pistols chambered for the 7.62 x 25mm Tokarev will perform similarly.
Better to be tried by 12 than be carried by 6.
Try a ParaOrdnance P12 in .45. Fairly small, holds 12+1, but does suffer from a shorter sight radius than a full-sized gun. Load it with 185-grain ammo, to make up for the shorter barrel.
For what its worth I keep two rounds of MagSafe on top to keep things flexible.
You can “unload” them quickly but it does give you a degree of protection from over penetration.
YMMV. ;-)
I have the same problem but I think I've finally solved it. Check out the Kahr PM/CM9. It's very light weight, very concealable, very reliable, very accurate. You can get a .40 or .45 model as well but I prefer the 9mm. It holds an additional round and is a bit lighter weight.
Thanks for the info - maybe the armor was more of a disguise than anything else.
I do agree with a skipper buddy that if you can get a round off up against gut, back, neck, whatever - its going to hurt - even a .22 with the gaseous internal explosion is going to cause severe damage. Just FYI.
OK, I just saw that in an article. (The vest they talked about earlier, from tacticalgear.com sounded like just a canvas shooters ammo vest.) Wonder where the kid got the stuff. That's all restricted gear if it's real armor. It will be interesting to see the source, assuming they release it.
Thanks. I’ll check it out.
In the presence of smoke a laser dot would draw a glowing line straight back to your position, you know.
In the presence of smoke a laser dot would draw a glowing line straight back to your position, you know.
I’ve looked at those. I actually have a Para 1911 (full size). In normal situations, I could probably carry the full sized model just about as easy as one of the compacts. I’ve been agonizing over this for a while. The plain fact is, there probably is not a better gun to conceal carry than the LCP when you’re wearing normal clothes, which for me is a pair of pants and tucked in shirt. You can put the LCP in your back pocket and nobody knows it’s there. If I’m wearing shorts I stick it a cargo pocket. It’s just not big enough (and no, I’m compensating for anything).
You’re absolutely right. I think some people put way too much confidence in them, too. There was a situation some time ago where a guy was holding his son hostage. The SWAT team guy put his laser on the guys forehead and pulled his trigger. Shot the kid right in the head. Lasers have to be sighted in and kept sighted just like a scope.
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