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ABC's Brian Ross and a press that disregards reputations of those it covers
The Baltimore Sun ^ | July 21, 2012 | David Zurawik

Posted on 07/22/2012 10:37:08 AM PDT by Qbert

Journalistic mistakes are easy to make in the immediate wake of events like the horrific shootings last week in a movie theater in Colorado.

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But the stampede to speed is only part of the problem. I believe the media malfeasance also includes a disregard for the reputations of the people on whom we report. To me, that is the mortal sin. We in the mass media have tremendous power to harm reputations if we are not careful – and we seem to be getting less and less careful until it must look to the public as if we couldn’t care less.

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Ross, ABC News’ chief investigative reporter, told viewers that there’s “a Jim Holmes, of Aurora, Colorado, page on the Colorado Tea Party site.” Furthermore, he added that it includes him “talking about joining the Tea Party last year.”

Ross did qualify the report saying, “Now, we don't know if this is the same Jim Holmes, but it is Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado.”

So, why put it out there in the first place, if you don’t have it nailed down? And in this case, it was indeed the wrong Jim Holmes -- and Ross and ABC had to publish a correction and apology.

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“Several million people saw Brian’s initial statement this morning, but how many saw the retraction and apology?” he countered. “I can’t explain how outraged I am by this ‘reporting’, but what can you do? They issue a quick apology, no one in the media faces any consequences, and they go back to doing what they always do.”

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ABC News declined comment Friday beyond the statement of correction and apology.

(Excerpt) Read more at articles.baltimoresun.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abcnews; brianross; firebrianross; georgestephanopolus
Sue the living daylights out of them.
1 posted on 07/22/2012 10:37:21 AM PDT by Qbert
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To: Qbert

EXACTLY! Jim Holmes and the Tea Party should OWN NBC and Brian Ross.


2 posted on 07/22/2012 10:40:21 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will j rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: Qbert

you wonder how all of the other ABC employees who work hard, do the right thing (I’m sure there are some!) feel about Mr. Ross, his high salary, and his management........after this, how can anyone in their audience trust them?


3 posted on 07/22/2012 10:41:38 AM PDT by GotMojo
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To: Coldwater Creek

Brian Ross is actually with ABC, although NBC does have a guy named Brian who was responsible for the largest libel judgment in U.S. history when he insinuated that Wayne Newton had mob connections.


4 posted on 07/22/2012 10:42:23 AM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (If you're gonna die, die with your boots on...)
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To: Qbert

Money is the only thing that talks here.

Tea Party Holmes needs to find the conservative version of Gloria Allred.

I suspect he’ll wind up with a nice settlement.


5 posted on 07/22/2012 10:44:40 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Qbert

Fox news should do a report: “Brian Ross serial child molestor” Then say ooops sorry, our mistake, we retact that. Obviously it’s OK to do stuff like that because Brian Ross still has a job


6 posted on 07/22/2012 10:46:03 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Some day our schools we will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: Qbert

Fox news should do a report: “Brian Ross serial child molestor” Then say ooops sorry, our mistake, we retact that. Obviously it’s OK to do stuff like that because Brian Ross still has a job


7 posted on 07/22/2012 10:46:35 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Some day our schools we will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers

MY ERROR!


8 posted on 07/22/2012 10:49:00 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will j rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: nascarnation

What I still don’t get is that, in the chaos of reporting on a still evolving story, that the Tea Party was mentioned.

Why would anyone think there’s a link between the Tea Party groups and a mass murderer, when we barely knew the identity of the shooter at that point?

Somebody, somewhere in ABC, went on the internet and found the Tea Party Jim Holmes, and thought it was something that should be reported, even though it couldn’t be confirmed at that point. What does that say about ABC and their news judgement??

After the fact during the Lewinsky scandal, we learned that Newsweek and the Washington Post had been sitting on that story for months, in part because they allegedly still were confirming information and sources and all that.

Yet in this shooting case, they couldn’t wait to get on the air to report that there’s somebody with the name of the shooter who is a Tea Party member. Go figure.


9 posted on 07/22/2012 10:50:25 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Qbert

In the last 5 to 10 years the media and what they say has become nearly irrelevant....and this election will pretty much kill it.


10 posted on 07/22/2012 10:52:10 AM PDT by Lowell1775
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To: Qbert

” and we seem to be getting less and less careful “

Sorry - nothing ‘careless’ about this —

It was a “Target of Opportunity” attack, with every intention of heaping dung on the Tea Party...


11 posted on 07/22/2012 10:52:54 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Qbert

Brian Ross and Penn State - both deserve the death penalty from their professions for a couple of years.


12 posted on 07/22/2012 10:53:47 AM PDT by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business)
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To: Coldwater Creek

Yep. We can’t just sit back and complain about media bias and dishonesty every time things like happen. We have to make the culprits pay through the roof for their actions.


13 posted on 07/22/2012 10:53:55 AM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Qbert
ABC's Brian Ross and a press that disregards reputations of those it covers

My "shocked" face. Photobucket

14 posted on 07/22/2012 10:55:33 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Without the Second Amendment, the other twenty-six will cease to exist.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
omebody, somewhere in ABC, went on the internet and found the Tea Party Jim Holmes, and thought it was something that should be reported, even though it couldn’t be confirmed at that point.

It was likely a simple search for James Holmes of Aurora, CO. Unfortunately, there is more than one James Holmes of Aurora, and they jumped the gun because of the one's association with the Tea Party. At that point, they became more interested in giving the Tea Party a black eye than investigating further. It shows how obsessively political they are. They use journalism credentials to advance their socialist agenda. Period. Paragraph.

15 posted on 07/22/2012 10:57:28 AM PDT by bcsco
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To: Qbert

I call BS!

The author said: “I believe the media malfeasance also includes a disregard for the reputations of the people on whom we report.”

WRONG!

The malfeasance is purposeful and driven by reporters who place agenda over accuracy!

Just as the media attempted to paint George Zimmerman as white, despite his hispanic heritage with labels and doctored audio, so did Brian Ross deliberately conduct a search of “James Holmes and Tea Party” to fulfill his fantasy that conservatives are dangerous.

Just as the media downplayed Barack Obama’s ties to Bill Ayers and Rev Wright, there is a clear agenda here.

Make no mistake. This is a war.

The media sets the agenda first, then looks for anything to support that agenda.


16 posted on 07/22/2012 10:58:05 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: Qbert

But the stampede to speed is only part of the problem.


Remember Katrina? ANY rumor whatsoever was mentioned by the media. I think one was about widespread cannibalism in the Superdome.


17 posted on 07/22/2012 11:02:47 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Qbert
A big downside for Brian Ross, and by extension the rat media, is that a lot of eyes are now open and he won't be able to so easily slander in the future.

We ARE watching and paying close attention to you, Mr. Ross.

18 posted on 07/22/2012 11:04:01 AM PDT by JPG (Whatever semantics are used, it is still a TAX.)
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To: JPG

A big downside for Brian Ross, and by extension the rat media, is that a lot of eyes are now open and he won’t be able to so easily slander in the future.

We ARE watching and paying close attention to you, Mr. Ross.


He still has a job, so I doubt he’s quaking in his shoes at the thought of that.


19 posted on 07/22/2012 11:10:34 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Coldwater Creek

Ok, Brian, and ABC, so you issued a limp-wrist explanation, but no real apology to the Tea Party folks..

So, where exactly do we go to get our reputation back?


20 posted on 07/22/2012 11:16:36 AM PDT by carlo3b (Home, is where the heart is..)
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To: chessplayer
You're right, he's still employed but it has yet to all play out and Ross is not out of the woods especially if Jim Holmes retains a good lawyer and proceeds. Brian Ross knows he needs to tighten-up his act and that will crimp his style.
21 posted on 07/22/2012 11:24:14 AM PDT by JPG (Whatever semantics are used, it is still a TAX.)
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To: Qbert

I sent a complaint to ABC about Ross. They sent a reply saying I should complain to my local ABC affiliate, as though hiring Brian Ross was their idea.


22 posted on 07/22/2012 12:07:54 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Qbert
When ABC heard it was James Holmes, they published this photo of the perp.

(/s)

23 posted on 07/22/2012 12:27:41 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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Keep FR Running
Fight back.
Counter the MSM spin machine.

24 posted on 07/22/2012 1:12:42 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: Qbert
ABC's perfect defense: "Your Honor, it's been the media's practice ever since network TV news started.. it's well established. Where's the recklessness and harm?"

Suit denied.

Associated Press v. Walker, all the way to the United States Supreme Court,[33] and in 1967 the Supreme Court ruled against Edwin Walker and found that although the statements may have been false, the Associated Press was not guilty of reckless disregard in their reporting about Walker. AP had distributed the lie that former U.S. Army Major General and W.W.II special operations hero Edwin Walker had led mobs of whites against blacks at a Mississippi university campus.

(wiki source)

25 posted on 07/22/2012 1:36:36 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Qbert
Sue the living daylights out of them.

Won't happen. (You can mock my prediction rate if I am wrong.)

This kind of thing will not stop unless and until there are real consequences for people like Brian Ross, convicted child molester[1].

Now, I am kind of an unrealistic guy, but I think Brian Ross, convicted child molester[1] needs a real beat-down. At a minimum.

P.

[1] Oops, wrong "Brian Ross". Please consider the statemant "Brian Ross, convicted child molester" corrected as regards "investigative reporter" Brian Ross.
26 posted on 07/22/2012 2:24:31 PM PDT by Peet (Everything has an end -- only the sausage has two.)
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To: carlo3b

The only solution is to trash Brian Ross.


27 posted on 07/23/2012 9:10:08 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

Do you think that the rumors about Brian’s latent pedophilia is true?


28 posted on 07/23/2012 10:06:44 AM PDT by carlo3b (Home, is where the heart is..)
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To: Paladin2
..or that it is possible that Brian Ross used an AKA for a membership apt in NAMBLA?? jus sayin.. :/
29 posted on 07/23/2012 10:13:59 AM PDT by carlo3b (Home, is where the heart is..)
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To: carlo3b
The sky is the limit for Brian Ross 's potential crimes.

It's known that he likes to blow up pickup trucks.

30 posted on 07/23/2012 10:32:08 AM PDT by Paladin2
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