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Brian Ross of ABC Takes Heat for Another Blunder
Politico ^ | July 20, 2012 | Dylan Byers

Posted on 07/22/2012 12:14:23 PM PDT by centurion316

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To: rurgan

I agree that the media is an immediate threat.

Do you have a possible solution?


41 posted on 07/22/2012 4:17:31 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: wintertime
I know the gov schools are a threat. The media brainwashes people every second from million media outlets 24/7 though.the media is the bigger threat imo.the media are privately owned and so more effective that the incompetent socialists running the decaying government schools. Still they do brainwash kids in gov schools.

the government schools need to be abolished. 99% of what government does is evil and the schools are certainly a socialist evil.

Yet how many conservatives , including me survived the government schools (and college) to still believe like I do and many freepers do that we need to limit government and that government is not the solution to so many problems?

42 posted on 07/22/2012 4:18:21 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: rurgan

And where do you suppose most of them were educated and by whom, Jesuits?


43 posted on 07/22/2012 4:23:36 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: centurion316
good thing he didn't call the guy a slut

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44 posted on 07/22/2012 4:25:23 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: wintertime
Look I know the government schools have brainwashed many but the media is a much bigger threat. I talk to countless Americans in real life. and even many democrats believe as I do that most government and politicians are corrupt. And Republicans are even more pro America, and against government .I'm talking about average people. so the government schools didn't completely brainwash everyone. and they are government so their aim is to brainwash everyone but they as all government is inefficient. so they can't brainwash most of us. The media however still fool most Americans into watching them . I don't because I know they are lying. the media are privately owned so effective. yes the gov schools are a huge threat. I am for abolishing the government schools and letting people educate their children how they want to that is freedom. I am disgusted that so many trust the schools and that is because the media doesn't expose the failure of gov schools.It makes me sick to watch “news” reports too because I know it is lies and cherry picked crap to advance socialism. yet most people don't look at news like that but that as if it were really news .it's not it's marxist political evangelism .
45 posted on 07/22/2012 4:28:41 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: rurgan
You can turn off the tv or the computer or the radio. How do you turn off a school? “To educate the mind and not the morals is to educate a menace to society''--- Teddy Roosevelt.
46 posted on 07/22/2012 4:31:02 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jmacusa
12 years of government schools and 4 years of liberal proffersors in college didn't brainwash me. I still think that 99% of government needs to be abolished including the gov schools, EPA, IRS , HUD , HHS etc.

so you think you can change my mind if these liberals preaching to me for 16 years couldn't?

47 posted on 07/22/2012 4:32:38 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: wintertime

Re my quote from Lincoln and T. Roosevelt.


48 posted on 07/22/2012 4:33:00 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: rurgan

Another good Mencken quote which might be applicable here is, “Never argue with a man whose job depends on not being convinced.”

Some attribute it to Mencken, and some as a paraphrase of Upton Sinclair. Whomever... it’s good. As long as the MSM fools spin lib talking points and prop up Obama, their positions are pretty secure.


49 posted on 07/22/2012 4:33:33 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: rurgan

As for the media, can you suggest a lawful solution?

Personally, I would love to see a thoroughly conservative ( **not** fair and balanced) 24/7 Internet news site that had the program look of Fox News. I would definitely watch it.


50 posted on 07/22/2012 4:37:03 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: jmacusa
You can home-school your kid , you can send your kid to private school. You can't turn off the media . they are everywhere . they even put ads on Rush Limbaugh. and even here on this site we are talking about what the media sets as the topics , like Trayvon, the “batman” shooter etc. Unless you turn of the Internet, radio, tv, and don't look at any media at all then you won't be exposed. and who can do that in this society, not many. so many even here believed that the BP oil spill was really a disaster and I had many arguments with those here who disagreed with me and I live here on the gulf so I knew anyway it wasn't lol. but they still argued.
51 posted on 07/22/2012 4:37:24 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: rurgan

I went to Catholic schools. You know the ironic thing about the EPA? Richard Nixon created it. I can’t change a mind that closed however it isn’t my mission to change yours friend, you can draw your own conclusions. I would only suggest as far as the MSM is concerned don’t take them so seriously, the average American has no idea who Rachel Maddow or Ed Shultz is and don’t give a rip anyway.


52 posted on 07/22/2012 4:37:24 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: rurgan

There are lots of people on this web-site who haven’t watched tv or gone to the movies in years. It’s possible to live without the media. Ask around here. As I said, lots of FReepers have done so.


53 posted on 07/22/2012 4:39:28 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: wintertime

Personally, I would love to see a thoroughly conservative ( **not** fair and balanced) 24/7 Internet news site that had the program look of Fox News. I would definitely watch it.

Now that I agree with you on! Lets all get some people here together and do it!


54 posted on 07/22/2012 4:40:03 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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Could I be in charge of exposing the government socialist-entitlement K-12 school outrages?.... Please? Please? Please? :-)


55 posted on 07/22/2012 4:42:46 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: jmacusa

I went to government schools and they couldn’t brainwash me. I still think 99% of the government agencies including the gov schools, EPA, HHS , HUD etc need to be abolished now.

They are as all socialism is inefficient. Yes they do brainwash a lot of idiots but the media are privately owned and so more effective and slicker. They even fool me many times and most of you too . How many of you thought things like the BP oil spill was really a disaster? It wasn’t . where is that disaster now? I live here I know it was a lie that it was a disaster.


56 posted on 07/22/2012 4:44:30 PM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: wintertime
== Where and how did these media people learn their Marxism? ==

This might help:

Partial transcript of 1985 video interview of KGB defector Yuri Alexander Bezmenov:

Most of the people who (reeducated) in the sixties, drop-outs or half-baked intellectuals are now occupying the positions of power in the Government, civil service, business, mass media, educational system. You are stuck with them. You cannot get rid of them. They are contaminated. They are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern. You cannot change their mind even if you expose them to authentic information, even if you prove that white is white and black is black you still cannot change the basic perception and illogical behavior. In other words, these people, the process of demoralization is complete and irreversible. To get rid society of these people you need another twenty or fifteen years to educate a new generation of patriotically-minded and commonsense people who would be acting in favor and in the interests of the United States society.

57 posted on 07/22/2012 4:45:05 PM PDT by QT3.14 (ZeroCare Death Panels = Shovel-ready projects)
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I have seen the Besmenov interview several times. It is very discouraging. Hopefully, it is not too late. Hopefully, there is still time to “re-moralize” our nation.

Honestly....what is **most** discouraging to me are the conservatives who fail to see the urgency in closing down the K-12 indoctrination camps. Some even persist in the insane idea that they can be “reformed”! Why do they continue to send their own precious children into these pits of godless, socialist, and moral pits of depravity?

If every parent who calls themselves “conservative” were to immediately remove their children from the government schools and demand that their legislatures completely de-fund this monstrosity, government schooling could be closed down in an instant.

God is likely very annoyed with our nation. He is likely **most** annoyed with conservatives who claim to have Judeo Christian values. Why?

Answer: Because if conservatives really really really wanted to they could close down two things immediately.

1) Abortion
2) Government owned and run socialist-entitlment ( and currently godless) schooling from kindergarten through graduate school.

58 posted on 07/22/2012 4:55:45 PM PDT by wintertime (:-))
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion; All

Very goog post in a very good thread of posts. Thanks for the ping to the thread, c_I_c.


59 posted on 07/22/2012 5:04:40 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: rurgan
I wish Fox would have a version of 60 Minutes where they investigate people like Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson.

WHERE did you get ordained? What church are you the reverend at? How long were you there? How do you have the funds to fly everywhere at a moments notice and wear $3000 suits? Tell us why you called NYC "Hymietown". Why do you seem to have a problem with Jews?

Just one on one with liberals and grill them. Find out about Ben & Jerry's working conditions. Do the owners pay themselves 10x more than the least paid employee? 100x? Do you practice what you preach?

I'd PAY for such a show.

60 posted on 07/22/2012 7:44:25 PM PDT by boop (I hate hippies and dopeheads. Just hate them. ...Ernest Borgnine)
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