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Statue of famed Penn St. coach Paterno taken down
San Diego Union-Tribune ^ | 7/21/2012 | Marc Levy

Posted on 07/22/2012 1:21:57 PM PDT by South40

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. — The famed statue of Joe Paterno was taken down from outside the Penn State football stadium Sunday as the NCAA announced it would be issuing sanctions against the university whose top officials were accused in a scathing report of burying child sex abuse allegations against a now-convicted retired assistant.

Workers lifted the 7-foot-tall statue off its base and used a forklift to move it into Beaver Stadium as the 100 to 150 students watched, some chanting, "We are Penn State."

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Bury it.
1 posted on 07/22/2012 1:22:06 PM PDT by South40
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To: South40

Careful.

The PSU apologists are circling on FR.


2 posted on 07/22/2012 1:26:57 PM PDT by Gamecock (We don't come to Christ to be born again; rather, we are born again in order to come to Christ. RCS)
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To: South40

Careful.

The PSU apologists are circling on FR.


3 posted on 07/22/2012 1:27:02 PM PDT by Gamecock (We don't come to Christ to be born again; rather, we are born again in order to come to Christ. RCS)
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To: South40

Don Giuseppi’s statue should have come down weeks ago.

Melt it down for scrap, and give the proceeds to some group that helps sexually abused boys.


4 posted on 07/22/2012 1:27:46 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!!!)
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To: South40

No...the Laurentian Abyss.


5 posted on 07/22/2012 1:28:42 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: South40

On a lighter note, the statue was the silliest looking thing I’ve seen in quite some time. JP should be HAPPY they took it down.

PS — Check out the statue of George Mason at George Mason U. in VA. Go ahead,check it out. Is it just me, or are they trying to make George look like a homosexual swinger? It’s a disgrace.


6 posted on 07/22/2012 1:32:23 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: South40

Damn, one less urinal on the Penn State campus.


7 posted on 07/22/2012 1:34:03 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: South40
Melt it. Sell the bronze for charity. Shatter the base into a thousand pieces.

Can't have someone digging up that statue. Ever.

8 posted on 07/22/2012 1:35:34 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Doctor 2Brains

The Paterno statue looked like he was running for a bus. The GM statue looks like he was dancing. Both blow.


9 posted on 07/22/2012 1:36:04 PM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance." Hussein Obama, Cairo, Egypt, June 4, 2009)
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To: Gamecock
The PSU apologists are circling on FR.

How do you stick up for a coward who knowingly helped cover up facts about a gay pedophile predator who RAPED little boys?

10 posted on 07/22/2012 1:36:46 PM PDT by softwarecreator
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To: Gamecock

Well, I’m glad you’re proud of the fact that a man was tried and convicted in the court of public opinion, instead of in a court of law, after his death without an opportunity to defend himself.


11 posted on 07/22/2012 1:36:56 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: South40

A man’s life work destroyed by his ignoring a pedophile.

It’s a damned shame but he knew he was wrong, he had to have known.

No football team is worth selling your integrity for.


12 posted on 07/22/2012 1:36:56 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Doctor 2Brains

Which one? http://www.google.com/search?aq=hts&rlz=1T4ADRA_enUS418US418&q=statue+of+George+Mason+at+George+Mason+U.+in+VA&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=3EsMUJzHAuHA0QGhmNCeDA&biw=1093&bih=490&sei=4ksMUNLDKKT40gH9pdiNBA


13 posted on 07/22/2012 1:39:19 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: South40

Well said. Succintly, too. That GM statue is a horror. I guess a serious, deep-thinking, white, Christian, male has to be made to look like a kid from the Backstreet Boys.


14 posted on 07/22/2012 1:40:01 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: 1rudeboy

BUrial at sea, let him swim with the fishes


15 posted on 07/22/2012 1:40:42 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: vladimir998

The one where he’s dancing with the table.


16 posted on 07/22/2012 1:42:10 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: fatnotlazy; Gamecock

You mean like Hitler? What was he convicted of?


17 posted on 07/22/2012 1:43:48 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: South40

Funny. Its always difficult when a cult-of-personality is finally declared bankrupt

The same thing played out (of course, on a larger scale) when Lenin’s statues were taken down.


18 posted on 07/22/2012 1:43:50 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: fatnotlazy

“after his death without an opportunity to defend himself.”

And after he skirted any possible consequences from his inaction. I guess dying was easier than further abusing his power by killing all the witnesses.


19 posted on 07/22/2012 1:50:52 PM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: South40

Good riddance once more, JoPed.

Tear it all down and try again, Penn State.


20 posted on 07/22/2012 1:52:46 PM PDT by Third Person ( Actions reflect priorities.)
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To: Doctor 2Brains

Yes, I think JP would be glad the statue is gone. Joe Paterno was NOT in favor of the statue from the get-go. He rejected all that sort of stuff. And he NEVER came into the stadium running with the team with his index finger extended as though proclaiming #1. In fact, one thing that rankled me about Joe at pre-game interviews, etc., was his reluctance to crow or boast or even predict a victory.

I personally think the statue should be melted down, recast into 6” versions of it, or even of Nittany Lions, which would be sold at $1,000 a pop, and all the money donated to organizations which minister to abused children.


21 posted on 07/22/2012 1:52:56 PM PDT by Tucker39 ( Psa 68:19Blessed be the Lord, who daily loadeth us with benefits; even the God of our salvation.KJV)
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To: Venturer
A man’s life work destroyed by his ignoring a pedophile.

Well, that and lying to a grand jury about it. If Paterno was alive, he'd likely be looking at perjury charges.
22 posted on 07/22/2012 1:57:05 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: South40

They should take his statue, heat it up so they can bend it over at the waist. Then have a statue of Sandusky standing behind him driving him to Hardees.


23 posted on 07/22/2012 1:57:22 PM PDT by animal172 (Calling the Founding Fathers!! We need your help.)
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To: South40

Bury it, burn it- either way is fine with me. And shame on those who excuse this pedophile enabler with “Well, he was still a great football coach so he should be excused”.


24 posted on 07/22/2012 2:00:37 PM PDT by richmwill
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To: South40

In trying to protect his legacy, Paterno kept quiet and hoped it would all go away. If he stepped up and did the right thing immediately then he would have protected his legacy and the school, the list of victims would have stalled.

His legacy has been destroyed, the school is in deep sh!t.

Bad call.


25 posted on 07/22/2012 2:01:24 PM PDT by greenishness
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To: Gamecock

I keep thinking back to the first game Penn State played after this story broke. I think it was against Nebraska. The student body was in the stands protesting the school for “looking at” Paterno in this story. They had signs that supported Paterno even though they really didn’t know his degree of involvement in the case.

I wonder what percentage of those students understand now?


26 posted on 07/22/2012 2:08:49 PM PDT by greenishness
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To: South40

Worshipping false gods has its consequences.


27 posted on 07/22/2012 2:10:45 PM PDT by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: Doctor 2Brains
You mean like Hitler? What was he convicted of?

Good point. Lee Harvey Oswald was never tried and convicted either. So we should give him the benefit of the doubt as well. /s

28 posted on 07/22/2012 2:14:44 PM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance." Hussein Obama, Cairo, Egypt, June 4, 2009)
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To: fatnotlazy

On principle, I agree with you.

But in a more practical sense, do you really believe he was completely innocent in this whole thing?

I am fine with innocent until guilty, but I am not sure he would come out of this OK.


29 posted on 07/22/2012 2:18:45 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just hate our government. All of them. Republican and Democrat.)
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To: South40

Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Chairman Mao, Mousy Dung, Pol Pot, OJ Simpson, Bill Clinton, the kenyan CSer — the list of subhuman filth that has never been convicted, but who are still subhuman filth is quite long. Pablo Escobar, Al Capone (only concealed weapon and tax evasion), etc.


30 posted on 07/22/2012 2:19:27 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: Third Person

The NCAA is applying the “Cam Newton rule” to the school for its complicit aiding and abetting of child rape but first they applied the “Reggie Bush rule” . Riggie lost his heisman ( except he never gave it back) but nothing was done to the school for buying a house!!. This was the paterno statue removal. — Riggie Bush rule” now complete . Now for the “CAM Newton Rule”. Here absolutely nothing will be done because the raped boys fathers were not told!! This is the Reverse Rule” Either way the school will not be punished even though rapes were known to be going on by administrators (Paterno) and employees (janitors) but no harm was dome because the children didn’t complain. I expect totally nothing to be done to “Ped” State except $1 billion in law suits but the NCAA will remain consistent with its hands off, do nothing, transparent worthlessness.


31 posted on 07/22/2012 2:22:56 PM PDT by marygonzo
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To: Doctor 2Brains
You mean like Hitler? What was he convicted of?

Good point. It really is kind of silly when folks say "but..but...he was never tried in a court of law." Like we're not supposed to have any opinions at all about a crime until a jury speaks.

The concept "innocent until proved guilty" just means society cannot punish a person without first proving guilt. It does not mean we cannot have opinions.

32 posted on 07/22/2012 2:24:05 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern? you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Flash Bazbeaux
“I guess dying was easier than further abusing his power by killing all the witnesses.”

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Forgive my pea brain, but that last sentence makes no sense.

Understand that I have no affection for Mr. Paterno. I'm not a friend or relative, or connected in any way to Penn State. I am, however, concerned with fairness. Under this administration, the rule of law applies less and less. We already have a corrupted Justice Department and the courts, from the Supremes on down, have all but thrown the Constitution out the window.

If we convict Paterno in the media, what stops anyone from accusing another wrongdoing and have that person vilified without a trial? I envision that, should Obama be re-elected, we will see more and more of these trials by media. That frightens me.

33 posted on 07/22/2012 2:26:50 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: South40

Erect it in the city dump.


34 posted on 07/22/2012 2:29:36 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: fatnotlazy

How much do you donate to PSU football each year?


35 posted on 07/22/2012 2:34:12 PM PDT by Gamecock (We don't come to Christ to be born again; rather, we are born again in order to come to Christ. RCS)
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To: Leaning Right

Perfectly said. I can’t shoot you in the head because I think you’re guilty of a crime, but I sure as hell am allowed to think you’re a maggot.


36 posted on 07/22/2012 2:36:49 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: greenishness
I wonder what percentage of those students understand now?

Remember the student riot when Paterno was fired?

37 posted on 07/22/2012 2:37:37 PM PDT by Gamecock (We don't come to Christ to be born again; rather, we are born again in order to come to Christ. RCS)
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To: South40
Bury it.

Sounds appropriate since he tried to bury the truth.
38 posted on 07/22/2012 2:39:45 PM PDT by crosshairs (America: Once a land of the free. Still the home of the brave.)
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To: crosshairs

It should be blown up, so there’s no chance of putting it back.


39 posted on 07/22/2012 2:41:15 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: Gamecock

See post 33.


40 posted on 07/22/2012 2:44:52 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Doctor 2Brains
OJ Simpson

Then why is he currently serving 33 years in the Lovelock Correctional Center?

41 posted on 07/22/2012 2:46:58 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: fatnotlazy
So we should go through life morally paralyzed, not willing to call evil evil, just because it hasn't been declared wrong in court.
42 posted on 07/22/2012 2:48:53 PM PDT by Gamecock (We don't come to Christ to be born again; rather, we are born again in order to come to Christ. RCS)
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To: EEGator
Hey. I talked to the Salt Lake City FBI office yesterday (it is the nearest one) about my daughter's , 2 1/2 years gone, old boyfriend finding her and offering to kill her and her new boyfriend. She has a text from that POS saying that. She has all the shit he told her on Facebook. We think he is in Texas. Won't tell you where my daughter is. She moved out of state and has changed her phone number 9 times to try and escape.

And YES. I should have made a clearer point on that other thread.

And yes. I talked to my local PD first. They know me. Ya know what they told me to do?????

43 posted on 07/22/2012 2:49:44 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: South40

Sorry to disagree with most here, but that statue should stay. The only change should be plaque on it. The plaque should tell the entire story of how Paterno and Penn State covered up the abuse of children for profit and football glory. I think the NCAA and the Penn. Legislature should require that that statue and plaque should remain on display at the front of the stadium as long a there is football played at Penn State. If the NCAA bans Penn State from Football, the statue and plaque should be placed in a very public area on the campus for at least a 100 years.


44 posted on 07/22/2012 2:51:47 PM PDT by Tupelo (TeaPartier ..... but no longer a Republican)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

It’s NOT for double homicide. But guess what, he’s still a murderer. Don’t you think?


45 posted on 07/22/2012 2:52:17 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

33 years? You sure about that?


46 posted on 07/22/2012 2:53:37 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: fatnotlazy; Gamecock; All
Well, I’m glad you’re proud of the fact that a man was tried and convicted in the court of public opinion, instead of in a court of law, after his death without an opportunity to defend himself.

Columnist Scott Ostler wrote a great column in the SF Chronicle last November that addresses your argument: Penn State's Joe Paterno gets what he deserves

Ostler wrote: Several e-mailers demand, "Have you ever heard of due process?" The due process I've heard of involves a justice system and a legal trial. Paterno faces no legal action or charge. Legally, his rear end is covered. But there was no trial when Paterno was sainted, no jury declared him one of the noblest and finest college coaches of all time. The public decided. It's the same deal on the flip side...

Other graphs from that Ostler column: What is the over-under number on how many people have to know about a depraved predator working under their noses before one of them takes a step to stop the predator and protect the victims? Jay Bilas, the ESPN college basketball commentator, called it "a conspiracy of cowards." ... With responsibility comes responsibility... "With the benefit of hindsight, I wish I had done more," Paterno said in a statement. That's pathetic. You need hindsight to tell you that you must do whatever you can to stop a dangerous criminal?

47 posted on 07/22/2012 2:54:06 PM PDT by Colofornian (Saying Mitt would keep past political promises is like prophesying that Gumby won't bend anymore)
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To: fatnotlazy; All
Understand that I have no affection for Mr. Paterno.

(Unlike the Happy Valley happy JoePa personality cultists who will have to get deprogrammed to realize that he should have never been deified in the first place)

48 posted on 07/22/2012 2:55:58 PM PDT by Colofornian (Saying Mitt would keep past political promises is like prophesying that Gumby won't bend anymore)
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To: vladimir998

I love the one where he’s decorated.


49 posted on 07/22/2012 3:05:18 PM PDT by Mercat (Necessity is the argument of tyrants. John Milton)
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To: Doctor 2Brains

You seriously need to lighten up and get a life if that bothers you.


50 posted on 07/22/2012 3:05:54 PM PDT by Mercat (Necessity is the argument of tyrants. John Milton)
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