Skip to comments.Army destroyed report that favored software that detected buried bombs
Posted on 07/22/2012 3:31:44 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
The Army ordered the destruction of a report that praised the performance of an off-the-shelf software program that finds buried explosives in Afghanistan and replaced it with a revised less-favorable assessment, according to internal Pentagon documents.
The unusual action came amid a battle inside the Army. It pits those who want the service to send more of the software platform called Palantir to the Afghan war against those who favor the Armys own developed intelligence network, the Distributed Common Ground System (DCGS).
......Rep. Duncan Hunter, California Republican and a member of the House Armed Services Committee, said Army procurement officials at the Pentagon were trying to protect the DCGS, which is the service developed with private industry, and discourage use of Palantir, produced by Palantir Technologies in Palo Alto, Calif.
What Im concerned about the most is the bureaucracy in the Pentagon is stopping the warfighter from getting the right gear at the right time, Mr. Hunter, who served in Afghanistan and Iraq as a Marine officer, told The Times.
We now know in the past that these reports weve been getting on a lot of different things may have been revised internally. Thats a pretty damning thought.
........The Times has also obtained documents showing the active effort by Army headquarters to keep Palantir from the field......
...........a frustrated 82nd Airborne intelligence officer wrote to higher ups, .....We arent going to sit here and struggle with an ineffective intel system while were in the middle of a heavy fight taking casualties. Palantir actually works. When DCGS actually works, well be ready to use it.
He added, If the crew of people I work with their combined IQ, ingenuity and years of experience, cant figure out how to make DCGS work in this fight, they need to fix their system...................
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...
I read the first few lines and concluded ... lover’s spat.
You should read it all.
hate to say this, especially being a veteran, but today’s pentagon is as narcissistic, self-centered, and corrupt as congress and the rest of the inside the beltway critters.
During the civil war the army did not want the Henry rifle because it did not come from the army.
We ended up with a 8 shot garand instead of a magazine fed 276 caliber same thinking. We ended up with the M14 instead of the stoner.
No this goes back long ways.
So, what are the political connections at DCGS that caused it to be favored?
The only politics are the influence of the Palantir developer being located in california, the state duncan hunter represents. Is it a useful tool? Yes, but it is not a wonder weapon as it is being promoted.
Ninety percent of the Army uses DCGS as it’s intelligence solution. It works well. The basis of this story is two years old. There were some problems and a few units used Palantir with good results. Problems were fixed along with other improvements and dcgs was upgraded within 6 months. Some units still use Palantir. Palantir is a tool, an application, not an intel system as is dcgs with required interoperability and analysis options; a system of systems. My understanding is that Palantir has expensive licenses and the potential revenue is probably much of the reason the company keeps pushing this story. If they would market it as an application at a reasonable cost it would probably be included in the army’s collection of intel tools.
In talking to a lot of young men who have been overseas in the combat zones, I’ve reached the same conclusion.
Which is why I’m now in favor of drastic DOD budget cuts. Bring our people home and cut the defense budget hard - explicitly cutting some of these idiotic programs where the DOD is clearly wasting money to line someone’s pocket.
When veterans tell me of the ROE’s and the paperwork involved in defending themselves, it is pretty clear that the US military is no longer suited to fight wars. I’ll go further here: I now believe it is impossible for the US military to *win* a war. The only way we will re-achieve the ability to win a war will be to make drastic cuts to the DOD where we effectively sack a huge number of “professional” military people in the upper officer ranks.
If the military spent half the money on improved infantry systems that they do on, say, the Air Force’s next great wonder jet....
Ah, forget it. Don’t get me started.