Skip to comments.Was this the reason why James Holmes investigation was sealed?
Posted on 07/22/2012 11:23:34 PM PDT by winoneforthegipper
Aurora's mass murderer James Holmes, would appear was working with this program that turns out was linked to a Government contract investigating and mitigating the effects of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder via the Department of Physiology and Biophysics, Neuroscience Graduate Program, University of Colorado at Anshutz Medical Center, Aurora, Colorado. Link to the book Nerve Growth Factors: Advances in Research and Application: 2011 Edition that makes direct referrence to the contract.
(Excerpt) Read more at ncbi.nlm.nih.gov ...
Google Book link.
Is Mr.Holmes connected to this government program? How intriguing.
What better way to do original doctoral research on PTSD than to do something that would instigate it societally?
(Except for piddling little ethical issues, of course. /irony in case any one misses it.)
Dude. I may as well be reading chinese.
Second yes it was reported this week that he was one of three students at the University working on this program that were receiving fund directly from our Government.
Given that the US Gov, within our lifetimes, has poisoned Americans for medical testing and weapons testing...
The link does not work for me. Has it already been scrubbed?
Yeah sorry...here is the link from the sealed thread in which I spelled it out better...I need sleep. Sorry again.
Doing some research into why they would seal it I came across a few things.
this program is the program that most likely Holmes was working on.
Neuroscience Graduate Program, University of Colorado at Anshutz Medical Center, Aurora, Colorado 80045, USA
In particular BDNF
Researching BDNF I found a common research link to PTSD or post traumatic stress disorder.
A quick run through other publications I came across a book on google that suggests that our Government is sponsoring the research on PTSD via this undergraduate program that involved Holmes.
I would imagine if his research and exposure in this area would harbor any reason to keep a lid on things...they would.
142 posted on Monday, July 23, 2012 2:04:10 AM by winoneforthegipper (”If you can’t ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn’t be in the circus” - SP)
...except then we could run it through an online translator. This post, not so much.
I tried it and it worked. Do to my obvious issues typing this thread I just include my original post from the sidebar thread on the Judge’s decision to seal the record.
We should directly link to my post and delete the trash I typed on top...lol
So, maybe he used some of those government funds to buy the large shipments of ammo he acquired delivered to the school?? Talk about smoking gun.
Yeah could be a host of little issues now.
“would appear was working”
Where does it say he was working on this?
It might be sealed to keep rumors like this out of the press.
I left out some stuff I meant to put there- did not mean to imply US Gov is behind the shooting, just that institutions can do evil.
Shades of Fast and Furious? (Not saying, just askin'. Much more info to be developed before I have an opinion; but all questions are good ones at this early point.)
I would think the seal was simply to assure the prospective jury pool isn’t further tainted. It could also be because they think someone else might have been involved.
Holmes did succeed academically as an undergraduate at the University of California at Riverside, graduating with honors in a neuroscience program that is considered very demanding. He then won a spot at the prestigious neuroscience doctoral program at the University of Colorado’s Anschutz Medical Campus.
Holmes was in his first year as a graduate student, living off a $26,000-a-year stipend — part federal grant, part university funding. In keeping with those modest means, he rented an 800-square-foot (74-square-metre) apartment in a scruffy neighborhood a short walk from the medical campus.
But he recently quit the program. A person who works in the neuroscience lab said Holmes did not join the other doctoral students at an end-of-the-year celebration in a local pub. Instead, a professor stopped by the impromptu party to tell everyone that Holmes had withdrawn from the program, with the clear implication that he had fallen behind academically, this source said.
The university declined to release his academic records, citing privacy rules.
Perhaps he was trying the nerve growth factors on himself? Total wild speculation on my part, but he wouldn’t be the first college student to try brain enhancers...
It sounds to me like they were studying the effects of chemistry on the developing brain, and were measuring the effects altered chemistry has on the electrical conduction processes within the developing brain of zebrafish.
If they could come up with a cure for PTSD, that would be awesome.
That all aside, I wonder what a jury rendering would be if it turns out that this guy was under a brain altering experiment?
If it turns out that that’s the case, If I were on a jury with only the facts we’ve been presented with thus far, I’d have to award him life in the nut house. There’s no telling if he would ever be normal again, and I wouldn’t want him exposed to society again.
In fairness, “funded by the government” might not mean anything nefarious. There’s a whole industry in academia geared toward grant writing, particularly at the graduate level. It’s how a lot of programs get funded. I think the guy might just be a fruitcake like Loughner, albeit smarter. I haven’t paid any attention to the MSM coverage of the story, but if there is still talk of an accomplice that could be a reason for sealing.
He’s just a kook who thinks he is living a movie.
Hinkley was similar no?
I don’t need government conspiracy to explain nuts.
Problem with that was he was no ordinary kook.
Indeed...I am just speculating. However first reports about his research was in this exact area.
Here is a link about BDNF and PTSD...now to bed.
Problem I was having is browser related. Will try it on my primary computer tomorrow. That machine has been down for 3 weeks. Got it working again tonight, but am doing system updates on it now.
Thanks for the article.
How do you know he was involved in this research?
This is not the only neuroscience program at CU. Holmes was only in his first year as a PHd candidate which means he would have been taking most of his core course work rather than doing any original research. You are extrapolating from nothing
One is upon learning that her son was implicated in this murder the Mother said that she was not surprised. Yet others that knew him were shocked thinking that he would never or could never to something like that. My read on that it was a personality change recently enough that only a mother or father would recognize.
Secondly, the FBI reported earlier this week that he did not fit any of their three known models for serial/mass murderers but perhaps a bit of all three.
No conspiracy theory here...just saying things are not right.
Yeah actually he was. Just like Ted Kazinski and any other really smart folks ( by book standards) who never learn how to fit in. This guy was just another nut
Not true...as far as what I read this weekend he was not just a phd candidate but was knee deep in RNA and disease and trauma of the brain.
That is my leap there though...Reports also talked of him giving a lecture on such or was about to.
You are spending too much time trying to make a completely irrational nuts act have some sane meaning. It has none the man is a nut job.... probably from drinking and drug use (Vicodin) if the reports are accurate. This is no doubt why he had to drop the program because he had become just the common garden variety druggie/drunk
It may have been what he wanted to be knee deep in but first year PHd students spend more time in class than any lab and they spend time getting their committee together for consideration of the research they plan to do..... If you;d been through a program you would know
Not saying you are wrong...just sayin this angle needs to be investigated.
I think this is a stretch!
So... maybe instead of just the Zebrafish, he tried it out on himself.
Sure thing. I’ll check it out right after we solve the 9/11 conspiracy theories that still float around as if they are true.
The way this damn government works, wouldn’t be surprised if the research was intended to create soulless killing automatons.
pro NRA or con?
I wonder if we’re to be treated to an OJ Simpson-style, televised trial? Wouldn’t that be just ducky, leading into an election?
Hypotheses included DOJ supplied aome of the guns
or AMMO or the fed govt funded the killer in his
Not So Fast, Not So Furious, By Any Means Possible.
7/21/2012 — FBI theater attack warning issued on May 17, 2012
This seems to be very pertinent to not have received much press attention.
Provides motive and timeline. Weapons being bought about the same time as the withdrawing from his fellowship due to academic pressure.
Their Spring semester ended 27Apr12. When did he first start buying the weapons?