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Was this the reason why James Holmes investigation was sealed?
University of Colorado at Anshutz ^ | 07-22-2012 | self

Posted on 07/22/2012 11:23:34 PM PDT by winoneforthegipper

Aurora's mass murderer James Holmes, would appear was working with this program that turns out was linked to a Government contract investigating and mitigating the effects of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder via the Department of Physiology and Biophysics, Neuroscience Graduate Program, University of Colorado at Anshutz Medical Center, Aurora, Colorado. Link to the book Nerve Growth Factors: Advances in Research and Application: 2011 Edition that makes direct referrence to the contract.

(Excerpt) Read more at ncbi.nlm.nih.gov ...


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KEYWORDS: aurora; highereducation; holmes; jamesholmes; neuroscience; psychiatry; ptsd; research; vanity
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I would think there's a connection to why the records of investigation would be sealed given his involvement with this research. Or I could be totally wrong.
1 posted on 07/22/2012 11:23:41 PM PDT by winoneforthegipper
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To: All

Google Book link.

http://books.google.com/books?id=frZ52jDcnwUC&pg=PA87&lpg=PA87&dq=Neuroscience+Graduate+Program,+University+of+Colorado+at+Anshutz&source=bl&ots=fHpZILTUAX&sig=OzFZw15wKEQ1X4eBcJm3rR8nIdk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=RskMULXpC8iC0QHrkYTEAw&ved=0CFIQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=Neuroscience%20Graduate%20Program%2C%20University%20of%20Colorado%20at%20Anshutz&f=false


2 posted on 07/22/2012 11:24:30 PM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: The Invisible Hand

Ping.

Is Mr.Holmes connected to this government program? How intriguing.


3 posted on 07/22/2012 11:29:07 PM PDT by SatinDoll
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To: winoneforthegipper

What better way to do original doctoral research on PTSD than to do something that would instigate it societally?

(Except for piddling little ethical issues, of course. /irony in case any one misses it.)


4 posted on 07/22/2012 11:30:32 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (let me ABOs run loose, lew (or is that lou?))
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To: winoneforthegipper

Dude. I may as well be reading chinese.


5 posted on 07/22/2012 11:31:41 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: SatinDoll
First off sorry for how I wrote all that late here and very tired.

Second yes it was reported this week that he was one of three students at the University working on this program that were receiving fund directly from our Government.

6 posted on 07/22/2012 11:32:27 PM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Given that the US Gov, within our lifetimes, has poisoned Americans for medical testing and weapons testing...


7 posted on 07/22/2012 11:33:50 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Obama 07/22/12: "we all reflect on how we can do something about some of the senseless violence...")
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To: winoneforthegipper

The link does not work for me. Has it already been scrubbed?


8 posted on 07/22/2012 11:35:12 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: goseminoles

Yeah sorry...here is the link from the sealed thread in which I spelled it out better...I need sleep. Sorry again.

Doing some research into why they would seal it I came across a few things.

this program is the program that most likely Holmes was working on.

Neuroscience Graduate Program, University of Colorado at Anshutz Medical Center, Aurora, Colorado 80045, USA

In particular BDNF

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3319702/?tool=pubmed

Researching BDNF I found a common research link to PTSD or post traumatic stress disorder.

A quick run through other publications I came across a book on google that suggests that our Government is sponsoring the research on PTSD via this undergraduate program that involved Holmes.

http://books.google.com/books?id=frZ52jDcnwUC&pg=PA87&lpg=PA87&dq=Neuroscience+Graduate+Program,+University+of+Colorado+at+Anshutz&source=bl&ots=fHpZILTUAX&sig=OzFZw15wKEQ1X4eBcJm3rR8nIdk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=RskMULXpC8iC0QHrkYTEAw&ved=0CFIQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=Neuroscience%20Graduate%20Program%2C%20University%20of%20Colorado%20at%20Anshutz&f=false

I would imagine if his research and exposure in this area would harbor any reason to keep a lid on things...they would.

142 posted on Monday, July 23, 2012 2:04:10 AM by winoneforthegipper (”If you can’t ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn’t be in the circus” - SP)


9 posted on 07/22/2012 11:35:12 PM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: goseminoles
Dude. I may as well be reading chinese.

...except then we could run it through an online translator. This post, not so much.

10 posted on 07/22/2012 11:36:59 PM PDT by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: Texas Fossil

I tried it and it worked. Do to my obvious issues typing this thread I just include my original post from the sidebar thread on the Judge’s decision to seal the record.


11 posted on 07/22/2012 11:38:51 PM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: Semper911

Sorry...!

We should directly link to my post and delete the trash I typed on top...lol

Night everyone!


12 posted on 07/22/2012 11:40:34 PM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: winoneforthegipper

So, maybe he used some of those government funds to buy the large shipments of ammo he acquired delivered to the school?? Talk about smoking gun.


13 posted on 07/22/2012 11:40:40 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

Yeah could be a host of little issues now.


14 posted on 07/22/2012 11:41:43 PM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: winoneforthegipper

“would appear was working”

Where does it say he was working on this?


15 posted on 07/22/2012 11:44:08 PM PDT by NoLibZone (We must get down on our knees each day and thank God that McCain/Palin didn't win in '08. Right?)
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To: winoneforthegipper

It might be sealed to keep rumors like this out of the press.


16 posted on 07/22/2012 11:45:01 PM PDT by LadyDoc
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To: winoneforthegipper
Whoa...that not going to look good any way you slice it
17 posted on 07/22/2012 11:47:16 PM PDT by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: PghBaldy

I left out some stuff I meant to put there- did not mean to imply US Gov is behind the shooting, just that institutions can do evil.


18 posted on 07/22/2012 11:49:19 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Obama 07/22/12: "we all reflect on how we can do something about some of the senseless violence...")
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
So, maybe he used some of those government funds to buy the large shipments of ammo he acquired delivered to the school?? Talk about smoking gun.

Shades of Fast and Furious? (Not saying, just askin'. Much more info to be developed before I have an opinion; but all questions are good ones at this early point.)

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19 posted on 07/22/2012 11:49:39 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: winoneforthegipper

I would think the seal was simply to assure the prospective jury pool isn’t further tainted. It could also be because they think someone else might have been involved.


20 posted on 07/22/2012 11:50:43 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: NoLibZone

Holmes did succeed academically as an undergraduate at the University of California at Riverside, graduating with honors in a neuroscience program that is considered very demanding. He then won a spot at the prestigious neuroscience doctoral program at the University of Colorado’s Anschutz Medical Campus.

Holmes was in his first year as a graduate student, living off a $26,000-a-year stipend — part federal grant, part university funding. In keeping with those modest means, he rented an 800-square-foot (74-square-metre) apartment in a scruffy neighborhood a short walk from the medical campus.

But he recently quit the program. A person who works in the neuroscience lab said Holmes did not join the other doctoral students at an end-of-the-year celebration in a local pub. Instead, a professor stopped by the impromptu party to tell everyone that Holmes had withdrawn from the program, with the clear implication that he had fallen behind academically, this source said.

The university declined to release his academic records, citing privacy rules.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/23/usa-shooting-denver-profile-idUSL2E8IM7IE20120723


21 posted on 07/22/2012 11:52:21 PM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Perhaps he was trying the nerve growth factors on himself? Total wild speculation on my part, but he wouldn’t be the first college student to try brain enhancers...


22 posted on 07/22/2012 11:54:16 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1279 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: Semper911

It sounds to me like they were studying the effects of chemistry on the developing brain, and were measuring the effects altered chemistry has on the electrical conduction processes within the developing brain of zebrafish.

If they could come up with a cure for PTSD, that would be awesome.

That all aside, I wonder what a jury rendering would be if it turns out that this guy was under a brain altering experiment?

If it turns out that that’s the case, If I were on a jury with only the facts we’ve been presented with thus far, I’d have to award him life in the nut house. There’s no telling if he would ever be normal again, and I wouldn’t want him exposed to society again.


23 posted on 07/22/2012 11:57:53 PM PDT by PrairieLady2
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To: winoneforthegipper

In fairness, “funded by the government” might not mean anything nefarious. There’s a whole industry in academia geared toward grant writing, particularly at the graduate level. It’s how a lot of programs get funded. I think the guy might just be a fruitcake like Loughner, albeit smarter. I haven’t paid any attention to the MSM coverage of the story, but if there is still talk of an accomplice that could be a reason for sealing.


24 posted on 07/23/2012 12:07:02 AM PDT by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: winoneforthegipper

He’s just a kook who thinks he is living a movie.
Hinkley was similar no?

I don’t need government conspiracy to explain nuts.


25 posted on 07/23/2012 12:08:30 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares ( Refusing to kneel before the "messiah".)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Problem with that was he was no ordinary kook.


26 posted on 07/23/2012 12:11:47 AM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: Trod Upon

Indeed...I am just speculating. However first reports about his research was in this exact area.

Here is a link about BDNF and PTSD...now to bed.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20679891


27 posted on 07/23/2012 12:13:29 AM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Problem I was having is browser related. Will try it on my primary computer tomorrow. That machine has been down for 3 weeks. Got it working again tonight, but am doing system updates on it now.

Thanks for the article.


28 posted on 07/23/2012 12:20:23 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: winoneforthegipper
You may be confusing the methods of the Federal gov't to obfuscate an d disseminate with those of the State of Colorado to preserve evidence as well as the integrity of the court. This clown goes to be arraigned tomorrow morning....and the counts are adding up. His lawyer will enter a plea then the fun will begin, seemingly endlessly.

The investigation has just begun so let's not leap to discovery.
29 posted on 07/23/2012 12:22:18 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (Hold.....hold......hold.......)
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To: winoneforthegipper

How do you know he was involved in this research?


30 posted on 07/23/2012 12:33:45 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: winoneforthegipper

This is not the only neuroscience program at CU. Holmes was only in his first year as a PHd candidate which means he would have been taking most of his core course work rather than doing any original research. You are extrapolating from nothing


31 posted on 07/23/2012 12:36:04 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: BIGLOOK
Nah listen since I still can't sleep, a few things don't add up.

One is upon learning that her son was implicated in this murder the Mother said that she was not surprised. Yet others that knew him were shocked thinking that he would never or could never to something like that. My read on that it was a personality change recently enough that only a mother or father would recognize.

Secondly, the FBI reported earlier this week that he did not fit any of their three known models for serial/mass murderers but perhaps a bit of all three.

No conspiracy theory here...just saying things are not right.

32 posted on 07/23/2012 12:37:05 AM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Yeah actually he was. Just like Ted Kazinski and any other really smart folks ( by book standards) who never learn how to fit in. This guy was just another nut


33 posted on 07/23/2012 12:39:15 AM PDT by Nifster
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bfl


34 posted on 07/23/2012 12:39:36 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Nifster

Not true...as far as what I read this weekend he was not just a phd candidate but was knee deep in RNA and disease and trauma of the brain.

That is my leap there though...Reports also talked of him giving a lecture on such or was about to.


35 posted on 07/23/2012 12:40:47 AM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: winoneforthegipper

You are spending too much time trying to make a completely irrational nuts act have some sane meaning. It has none the man is a nut job.... probably from drinking and drug use (Vicodin) if the reports are accurate. This is no doubt why he had to drop the program because he had become just the common garden variety druggie/drunk


36 posted on 07/23/2012 12:41:45 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: winoneforthegipper

It may have been what he wanted to be knee deep in but first year PHd students spend more time in class than any lab and they spend time getting their committee together for consideration of the research they plan to do..... If you;d been through a program you would know


37 posted on 07/23/2012 12:43:49 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

Not saying you are wrong...just sayin this angle needs to be investigated.


38 posted on 07/23/2012 12:47:13 AM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: winoneforthegipper
Was he in school in Colo in October, 2010?

I think this is a stretch!

39 posted on 07/23/2012 12:49:23 AM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: winoneforthegipper
Of course things are not right, but the Colorado judge is not necessarily wrong. All of your concerns will be investigated and do not need the meddling of the media contaminating discovery or the possible jury pool.

Not a conspiracy.....wish Colorado would put him on trial next month and be done with it.
40 posted on 07/23/2012 12:54:53 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (Hold.....hold......hold.......)
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To: PrairieLady2

So... maybe instead of just the Zebrafish, he tried it out on himself.


41 posted on 07/23/2012 1:09:41 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Sure thing. I’ll check it out right after we solve the 9/11 conspiracy theories that still float around as if they are true.


42 posted on 07/23/2012 1:13:18 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: null and void

The way this damn government works, wouldn’t be surprised if the research was intended to create soulless killing automatons.


43 posted on 07/23/2012 1:26:34 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I hate the Universe, and it hates me.)
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To: winoneforthegipper

pro NRA or con?


44 posted on 07/23/2012 1:48:56 AM PDT by Golfinsocal
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To: winoneforthegipper

I wonder if we’re to be treated to an OJ Simpson-style, televised trial? Wouldn’t that be just ducky, leading into an election?


45 posted on 07/23/2012 1:59:41 AM PDT by Scooter100 ("Now that the fog has lifted, I still can't find my pipe". --- S. Holmes)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Hypotheses included DOJ supplied aome of the guns
or AMMO or the fed govt funded the killer in his
“studies”.


46 posted on 07/23/2012 5:25:36 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Diogenesis

Not So Fast, Not So Furious, By Any Means Possible.


47 posted on 07/23/2012 5:35:24 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: All

also this,,,
7/21/2012 — FBI theater attack warning issued on May 17, 2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9aVMfYR8to


48 posted on 07/23/2012 6:10:47 AM PDT by CharlotteVRWC
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To: winoneforthegipper

bump

This seems to be very pertinent to not have received much press attention.

Provides motive and timeline. Weapons being bought about the same time as the withdrawing from his fellowship due to academic pressure.


49 posted on 07/23/2012 7:37:40 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr

Their Spring semester ended 27Apr12. When did he first start buying the weapons?


50 posted on 07/23/2012 7:52:18 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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