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If It's So Easy to Run a Business on Leftist Principles, Why Don't Leftists Do It?
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Posted on 07/23/2012 1:27:19 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

If It's So Easy to Run a Business on Leftist Principles, Why Don't Leftists Do It?

by Seton Motley | breitbart.com

Our nation is saddled with a tiny cadre of Leftists - who unfortunately hold many key positions both inside and outside of government. These Leftists assert with great - though completely unfounded - authority that they know best how private businesses should do their thing.

Leftists think they know exactly how every little facet of the giant, endlessly faceted private economy works, which is remarkable, considering their enormous disdain for it.

President Barack Obama in his first autobiography described his few scant months spent doing actual (private sector) work thus:

“Like (I was) a spy behind enemy lines....”

And famously, recently uttered the unbelievable:

“If you’ve got a business - you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.”

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1 posted on 07/23/2012 1:27:23 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

They will only do it if the Government gives them the money. I said gives not loans!


2 posted on 07/23/2012 1:29:54 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: Sub-Driver

See 20th Century Motor Company..................


3 posted on 07/23/2012 1:33:33 PM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: Sub-Driver
Liberals want to order people around and not be held accountable. This of course is death to a business. Why do you think there are so many liberals in Government?
4 posted on 07/23/2012 1:34:36 PM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Because Leftists are self-identified “Smarter-than-Thou” lazy bums.

“IF I set my minds to xxx, I’ll do/be better than you.”


5 posted on 07/23/2012 1:40:06 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Sub-Driver

Atlas Shrugged - the 20th Century Motor Company:

Well, anyway, it was decided that nobody had the right to judge his own need or ability. We voted on it. Yes, ma’am, we voted on it in a public meeting twice a year. How else could it be done? Do you care to think what would happen at such a meeting? It took us just one meeting to discover that we had become beggars - rotten, whining, sniveling beggars, all of us, because no man could claim his pay as his rightful earning, he had no rights and no earnings, his work didn’t belong to him, it belonged to ‘the family’, and they owed him nothing in return, and the only claim he had on them was his ‘need’- so he had to beg in public for relief from his needs, like any lousy moocher, listing all his troubles and miseries, down to his patched drawers and his wife’s head colds, hoping that ‘the family’ would throw him the alms. He had to claim miseries, because it’s miseries, not work, that had become the coin of the realm - so it turned into a contest between six thousand panhandlers, each claiming that his need was worse than his brother’s. How else could it be done? Do you care to guess what happened, what sort of men kept quiet, feeling shame, and what sort got away with the jackpot?

“But that wasn’t all. There was something else that we discovered at the same meeting. The factory’s production had fallen by forty percent, in that first half year, so it was decided that somebody hadn’t delivered ‘according to his ability.’ Who? How would you tell it? ‘The family’ voted on that, too. We voted which men were the best, and these men were sentenced to work overtime each night for the next six months. Overtime without pay - because you weren’t paid by time and you weren’t paid by work, only by need.

“Do I have to tell you what happened after that - and into what sort of creatures we all started turning, we who had once been humans? We began to hide whatever ability we had, to slow down and watch like hawks that we never worked any faster or better than the next fellow. What else could we do, when we knew that if we did our best for ‘the family,’ it’s not thanks or rewards that we’d get, but punishment? We knew that for every stinker who’d ruin a batch of motors and cost the company money - either through his sloppiness, because he didn’t have to care, or through plain incompetence - it’s we who’d have to pay with our nights and our Sundays. So we did our best to be no good.

“There was one young boy who started out, full of fire for the noble ideal, a bright kid without any schooling, but with a wonderful head on his shoulders. The first year, he figured out a work process that saved us thousands of man-hours. He gave it to ‘the family,’ didn’t ask anything for it, either, couldn’t ask, but that was all right with him. It was for the ideal, he said. But when he found himself voted as one of our ablest and sentenced to night work, because we hadn’t gotten enough from him, he shut his mouth and his brain. You can bet he didn’t come up with any ideas, the second year.

“What was it they’d always told us about the vicious competition of the profit system, where men had to compete for who’d do a better job than his fellows? Vicious, wasn’t it? Well, they should have seen what it was like when we all had to compete with one another for who’d do the worst job possible. There’s no surer way to destroy a man than to force him into a spot where he has to aim at not doing his best, where he has to struggle to do a bad job, day after day. That will finish him quicker than drink or idleness or pulling stick-ups for a living. But there was nothing else for us to do except to fake unfitness. The one accusation we feared was to be suspected of ability. Ability was like a mortgage on you that you could never pay off. And what was there to work for? You knew that your basic pittance would be given to you anyway, whether you worked or not - your ‘housing and feeding allowance,’ it was called - and above that pittance, you had no chance to get anything, no matter how hard you tried. You couldn’t count on buying a new suit of clothes next year - they might give you a ‘clothing allowance’ or they might not, according to whether nobody broke a leg, needed an operation or gave birth to more babies. And if there wasn’t enough money for new suits for everybody, then you couldn’t get yours, either.


6 posted on 07/23/2012 1:40:42 PM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: Sub-Driver
Why take a financial risk and actually WORK when you can steal money OTHER people earned?
7 posted on 07/23/2012 1:41:53 PM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: SMARTY

I wouldn’t give them the credit for having the courage to steal from anyone. They elect other people to do it that have the legal monopoly on the use of force; force that, if you resist, becomes overwhelming and deadly in short order, all while the takers hide behind the “social contract”.

I despise these people, but not as much as I despise the people that aren’t the takers, but those who are deriving their sense of self-righteousness for “caring” by supporting policies of theft from their fellow American.


8 posted on 07/23/2012 1:47:45 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Sub-Driver

“If It’s So Easy to Run a Business on Leftist Principles, Why Don’t Leftists Do It?”

AIR America comes to mind. LOL The left has a hard time running a toilet let alone a business.


9 posted on 07/23/2012 1:50:40 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Sub-Driver

WHy Work?.... WHEN you can re-distribute the income from people that do work..
And set on your ass and vote for democrats?..

** The ONLY political plank of the democrat party for at least 50 years..


10 posted on 07/23/2012 1:52:52 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Sub-Driver

They have.

It was called Solyndra.


11 posted on 07/23/2012 1:54:28 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: Red Badger
We began to hide whatever ability we had, to slow down and watch like hawks that we never worked any faster or better than the next fellow. What else could we do, when we knew that if we did our best for ‘the family,’ it’s not thanks or rewards that we’d get, but punishment?

You can see the legacy of this Communist philosophy today when you eat at many restaurants in Beijing. They practically make you serve yourself.

Western standards of customer service haven't really taken hold in much of China yet, for all their fervent embrace of capitalism at the small- and medium-sized business level.

12 posted on 07/23/2012 2:00:22 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Sub-Driver
Why take a financial risk and actually WORK when you can steal money OTHER people earned?
13 posted on 07/23/2012 2:01:00 PM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: Sub-Driver

Agreed. Ben and Jerry’s and Progressive Insurance need to turn their day-to-day decision making over to Worker Committees.


14 posted on 07/23/2012 2:02:53 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Sub-Driver

Some Leftist Business Models:

- General Motors

- Solyndra

- PBS

- Planned Parenthood

- Mustang Ranch (just google ‘Mustang Ranch IRS’)

- ACORN


15 posted on 07/23/2012 2:13:36 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("Jiggle the Handle for Barry!")
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To: Sub-Driver

Depending on your definitions, about 60% of new businesses never turn a profit. It looks like the lazy leftist losers are out there - temporarily.


16 posted on 07/23/2012 2:14:58 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

I see you haven’t eaten at a Golden Corral lately.............


17 posted on 07/23/2012 2:18:23 PM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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To: Sub-Driver

If you look at many liberal businesses, you will find businesses that depend on government regulation for their existence. I was told by a professor in a university public health program that I should support government regulations because they set up jobs for inspectors, systems providers, and other compliance people—these were the jobs occupied by all the graduates of the program. Of course, if there are no private businesses upon which to enforce regulations...

I guess you could call Ben & Jerries ice cream company a liberal business. They sell a non-essential, relatively low cost luxury product that has sold well due to quality and variety. However, when the company tried to hire a new top executive on a liberal salary, they found few applicants. Top execs might often vote liberal but they sure are greedy when it comes to their own pay.

A number of finance industry businesses headquartered in NYC are populated with liberal employees but are ruthlessly conservative in operating principles. It helps if your public image is “compassionate” when you are out to bleed every possible dime out of every last person on the planet.

Many of the post-microcomputer revolution technology companies have liberal founders and management. They don’t face the regulatory burden of old-technology companies like steel mills, mines, transportation companies, chemical or oil refineries, etc. When your income stream is strong, it is easy to be arrogant about politics.

Just speculation and musings—not intended to create controversy.


18 posted on 07/23/2012 2:18:52 PM PDT by iacovatx (Conservatism is the political center--it is not "right" of center)
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To: Sub-Driver

They do! They’re called Google, Progressive Insurance, et al (Apple, MS?).....I’m sure there are dozens of more specific examples. Oh! Solyndra, GM (Volt, etc.).....


19 posted on 07/23/2012 2:25:27 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Sub-Driver

The delusion that organizing a successful business is a light and trivial matter, and that therefore businessmen are parasites, has been rampant on the left since at least Marx.

Lenin got a dose of reality when his first attempt at restructuring the Russian economy along Communist lines was a complete failure — hence the New Economic Policy, which worked better as it had capitalist features, but was still disastrous, as it didn’t have enough. (And this leaves side the other, related delusion that one can be smarter than a reasonably well-functioning market, which is shared by leftists and the “wizards of smart” on Wall Street who run up multi-billion dollar trading losses.)


20 posted on 07/23/2012 2:27:07 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: iacovatx

I should add that I don’t consider conservative business policies to include ruthless bleeding of every dime from people. Reading my comments might lead to that misinterpretation. The ruthless conservative practices I refer to are better described as rigid, overwhelmingly one-sided practices. Such practices favor the liberal company from every angle leaving no room for even respect for the customer. This use of the term conservative is not the same as the definition of conservative political principles. Conservative political principles respect the customer, are honest, and appreciate that successful customers are the best customers. Liberals somehow believe that reducing the discretionary income of customers will not harm the ability of their liberal company to sell products or services to those customers. Liberal companies engage in practices and beliefs that are to their own detriment.


21 posted on 07/23/2012 2:27:44 PM PDT by iacovatx (Conservatism is the political center--it is not "right" of center)
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To: Sub-Driver

Because investors may get a tad angry when they learn management is not maximizing shareholder value, but is focusing on maximum “social justice.” And the best way to achieve that is to put a filthy dirty polluting plant smack dab in the middle of Bel Air, Atherton, or the Hamptons,


22 posted on 07/23/2012 2:27:44 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: iacovatx

I should add that I don’t consider conservative business policies to include ruthless bleeding of every dime from people. Reading my comments might lead to that misinterpretation. The ruthless conservative practices I refer to are better described as rigid, overwhelmingly one-sided practices. Such practices favor the liberal company from every angle leaving no room for even respect for the customer. This use of the term conservative is not the same as the definition of conservative political principles. Conservative political principles respect the customer, are honest, and appreciate that successful customers are the best customers. Liberals somehow believe that reducing the discretionary income of customers will not harm the ability of their liberal company to sell products or services to those customers. Liberal companies engage in practices and beliefs that are to their own detriment.


23 posted on 07/23/2012 2:29:25 PM PDT by iacovatx (Conservatism is the political center--it is not "right" of center)
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To: Sub-Driver

Ask Ben and Jerry how they survive without making an evil profit


24 posted on 07/23/2012 2:34:45 PM PDT by silverleaf (Every human spent about half an hour as a single cell)
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To: Sub-Driver

“If It’s So Easy to Run a Business on Leftist Principles, Why Don’t Leftists Do It?”

1. Suppliers need to get paid.

2. Taxes need to get paid.

3. Profits dont happen by thinking happy thoughts and giving away product.

4 You realize that all of your liberal friends make shotty employees, expect to get paid as much as you for doing less work, and want full benefits even though they work part-time.

5. Basically they know that their business philosophy is pure bull*hit and it is just easier to snip at those that do it right.


25 posted on 07/23/2012 2:36:05 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Gaffer

“They do! They’re called Google, Progressive Insurance, et al (Apple, MS?)”

Those guys make their money the “old fashioned” way just like any real business.

They are just flaming leftists with the profits.


26 posted on 07/23/2012 2:41:23 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Red Badger
The story of the 20th Century Motor Company

Scroll to Post #39.

27 posted on 07/23/2012 2:43:56 PM PDT by Publius (Leadershiup starts with getting off the couch.)
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You’re right... but who knows what backroom deals have gone on? It wouldn’t surprise me a bit if Google has clear sailing through IRS as well as Progressive Insurance.

This dates me a bit, but do you remember Janet Reno and the Justice Department suing the bejesus out of MS (I think it was) for some specious reason that was obviously politically motivated. At the time, the prevailing sentiment it was done to take the heat off Slick’s BJs....


28 posted on 07/23/2012 2:47:56 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Sub-Driver
If It's So Easy to Run a Business on Leftist Principles, Why Don't Leftists Do It?

Because businesses can't print money?

29 posted on 07/23/2012 2:50:23 PM PDT by wayoverontheright
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To: Sub-Driver
If It's So Easy to Run a Business on Leftist Principles, Why Don't Leftists Do It?

Sure.

$27 per hour min. wage.

3 months paid vacation each yr.

Insurance coverage for any and all partners.

Job security (union style).

And the company pays 90% tax rate.

It could work.

30 posted on 07/23/2012 3:01:30 PM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks like Right-Wing extremism.)
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To: Sub-Driver
if it’s so easy to run a business on Leftist principles, why don’t Leftists do it?

because that would require rational thought, ingenuity, and productive effort. How many libtards have all those? not many.

31 posted on 07/23/2012 3:02:42 PM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Sub-Driver

Of course Ben & Jerry’s has a vote of all employees on all business decisions and equally shares all their profit with the janitor getting the same share and same salary as the CEO and the owner. What, they don’t do that. The devil you say . . .


32 posted on 07/23/2012 3:13:11 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Sub-Driver
“If Barack Obama has a Harvard law degree, he didn’t earn that. Somebody else made that happen.”

Now that the United States has universal health care, where will Canadian politicians go when they get sick?

Here are 48 things that Barack Obama has done which should make his supporters feel ashamed and embarrassed

33 posted on 07/23/2012 3:14:27 PM PDT by grundle
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To: Sub-Driver
Leftists think they know exactly how every little facet of the giant, endlessly faceted private economy works, which is remarkable, considering their enormous disdain for it.

Bump - guy knows his liberals...

34 posted on 07/23/2012 3:42:20 PM PDT by GOPJ (Political correctness is simply George Orwell's Newspeak by a non-threatening name. FR- Bernard Marx)
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To: Publius

Excellent!...........


35 posted on 07/23/2012 4:04:35 PM PDT by Red Badger (Think logically. Act normally.................)
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