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Colorado shooting suspect appears in court, while prosecutors consider death penalty
Fox News ^ | 7/23/12 | FoxNews

Posted on 07/23/2012 2:07:54 PM PDT by Ron C.

The man accused of going on a deadly shooting rampage at the opening of the new Batman movie appeared Monday in court for the first time.

James Holmes, 24, who is accused of killing 12 people and wounding 58 others inside a packed movie theater in Aurora, Colo., will be formally charged next Monday. He is being held without bond.

Holmes, who did not speak, sat in a maroon jailhouse jumpsuit as the judge advised him of the case. He appeared wide-eyed with bright reddish orange hair.

Holmes has been held in solitary confinement at an Arapahoe County detention facility since Friday. He is being held on suspicion of first-degree murder, and he could also face additional counts of aggravated assault and weapons violations.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: murderer
This man should be hung publicly.
1 posted on 07/23/2012 2:08:07 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: Ron C.
A Death Penalty sentence will assure him of living for at least 20 more years, while tax dollars are squandered on the endless Appeals that the Death Penalty always brings.

Immediate Execution should be swift, precise, and final in cases like this. We could free up a lot of Prison space by EXECUTING those on Death Row, and stop wasting time on frivolous Appeals.

2 posted on 07/23/2012 2:10:59 PM PDT by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Ron C.
He looks completely insane to me... maybe that will be how he escapes capitol punishment.


3 posted on 07/23/2012 2:12:03 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: Ron C.

I say let him escape. Just be sure to let folks know first...

I doubt he’d make it two blocks. Sure would save us a boatload of money. And you know, it would be cathartic.


4 posted on 07/23/2012 2:13:43 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Remove all Democrats from the Republican party, and we won't have much Left, just a lot of Right.)
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To: Ron C.

Chicks did red-haired boys!


5 posted on 07/23/2012 2:13:47 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: Ron C.

Colo has the death penalty.
They’ve executed one person since 76.

It will cost the state 10s of millions to process him over the next decade.

Very unfortunate he didn’t get taken down at the site.


6 posted on 07/23/2012 2:14:20 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: traditional1
"Immediate Execution should be swift..."

Didn't we used to believe that 'Justice delayed is injustice' back in this nation's not-too-long-ago history?

7 posted on 07/23/2012 2:14:38 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: Revolting cat!

If he gets to play the Joker, can we play Pol Pot?


8 posted on 07/23/2012 2:16:18 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Remove all Democrats from the Republican party, and we won't have much Left, just a lot of Right.)
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To: traditional1

I predict he will plead insanity and will not face the death penalty.


9 posted on 07/23/2012 2:19:20 PM PDT by brytlea (An ounce of chocolate is worth a pound of cure)
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To: nascarnation
We're still paying to feed, cloth, medicate and entertain Charles Manson in CA - meanwhile other nuts keep beating the drums to 'set him free!'

This is not justice.

10 posted on 07/23/2012 2:19:35 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: Revolting cat!

11 posted on 07/23/2012 2:24:20 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: Ron C.

He doesn’t appear to be insane to me. He looks like a calculating serial killer.

Simply evil.


13 posted on 07/23/2012 2:25:55 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: Ron C.

I think it should be done quietly, with no fanfare...like an animal.


14 posted on 07/23/2012 2:29:33 PM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Ron C.
"He looks completely insane to me... maybe that will be how he escapes capitol punishment."

I really think this "SUSPECT" MURDERER was putting on the best insane, nut job, crazy look he could muster up.

Maybe some one should look to see if this MURDERER looked up the penalty of committing this MURDEROUS CRIME!

I personally think if he was as GENIUS as the media puts him out to be that he had to look into this.

15 posted on 07/23/2012 2:31:29 PM PDT by Johnny_cash
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To: Ron C.

He’s almost an example of reverse evolution. In his high school pic he looks like an ordinary, clean cut high school student. Come college he’s beginning to look scruffy with a minimal beard and weird smirk. Then come the dating site pic and this one, all of them showing a person who appears to be going downhill faster and faster.


16 posted on 07/23/2012 2:33:43 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: Ron C.
I'm not a Dr. but those eyes make me wonder if he has Grave's disease. There is some psychology involved with it.
17 posted on 07/23/2012 2:33:52 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: libstripper
I am just a layman, but from what I have read in young men this kind of progression (regression)often marks the onset of schizophrenia, which in males often manifests in the late teens and early 20s. From all accounts he had a pretty normal childhood and puberty, but something must have triggered the psychosis, if that is what it is, I don't know.
18 posted on 07/23/2012 2:43:41 PM PDT by chimera
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To: Ron C.
Legally insane, no chance.

Psychotic? Maybe. Consider that sleep deprivation can also cause and mimic psychosis. I reckon he did not sleep the night before the attack at the very least, what with all the anticipation and making sure he didn't forget to lay any traps or pack rounds. So, let's say he had not slept since Tuesday night. By the following Monday morning the lack of sleep, on top of all the intervening affairs and drug abuse, this could conceivably induce psychosis, and not necessarily of organic disease in nature. Or they could have him loaded on anti-psychotics which would give him this whack appearance.

Lastly, he might be a fine ac-tor.

19 posted on 07/23/2012 2:43:58 PM PDT by Dysart (You didn't post that. Someone else made that happen.)
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To: Ron C.; All

He’s faking it!


20 posted on 07/23/2012 2:49:39 PM PDT by bimboeruption (Clinging to my Bible and my HK.)
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To: Ron C.

I was at the Doctor’s office this morning and saw him getting arraigned on TV. From my perspective he had the look of someone who was stunned that this was happening. I don’t think he planned on going to jail at all. He just chickened out once he saw what a bullet riddled body looked like and didn’t want that to happen to him.


21 posted on 07/23/2012 2:53:22 PM PDT by The Working Man
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To: Ron C.

In a few years, we will be reading stories about women writing to him and proposing marriage.


22 posted on 07/23/2012 2:56:29 PM PDT by DFG ("Dumb, Dependent, and Democrat is no way to go through life" - Louie Gohmert (R-TX))
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To: Ron C.

“Colorado shooting suspect appears in court, while prosecutors consider death penalty”

Let me get this straight…

Someone shoots 70 people, kills 12 of them, and the prosecutors “consider” whether the case warrants capital punishment?

Considers?

To me, this is more indicative of how depraved our society and legal system has become, than the despicable actions of the lunatic himself….


23 posted on 07/23/2012 2:59:25 PM PDT by Road Glide
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To: Ron C.

I’d say put him down, but:
1. some say it would be difficult for a kid to get his hands on all the weapons he had. He may have had access to a lab on campus, but even so...
2. consider the history of this administration—Fast and Furious especially— and consider ‘bam’s interest in drone assassinations.
3. Finally, there’s Bill Ayer’s history and current association with OWS.

I think it was a mistake to put down Timothy McVeigh; maybe a few years in a cell might have changed his mind about cooperating with investigations.


24 posted on 07/23/2012 3:03:36 PM PDT by tsomer
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To: brytlea

I predict he will plead insanity and will not face the death penalty.


Looks to me like he is going for the Ronald McDonald defense.


26 posted on 07/23/2012 3:07:05 PM PDT by GaltMeister (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.)
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To: nascarnation
Very unfortunate he didn’t get taken down at the site.

Well...
There was that small issue
of the explosives in his apartment.

If he'd been killed,
then the cops would not have been told
about the booby traps
God Knows how many more people
would have been killed or maimed

I've heard it argued that he is psychotic
I doubt that, in that the planning and execution
of this mayhem required a high degree of
organizational skills and initiative

Psychotic persons can't maintain Cognitive Organization
More likely he is just plain Evil

27 posted on 07/23/2012 3:08:18 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: tsomer

Did anyone try to prove or disprove McVeigh’s claim that he had been implanted with a chip?

The mother of Holmes is now saying the media got it wrong about her comment. Not surprised. I thought it sounded weird.

You have the right person was in response to whether she was his Mother.

There is also a lot of mixed messages right now in the research on his father. The name is common so you have to sort through his history.


28 posted on 07/23/2012 3:08:28 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: bimboeruption

He’s faking it!


Damn right he is!


29 posted on 07/23/2012 3:13:20 PM PDT by sanjuanbob
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To: chimera

I suspect you’re right. The thing that stands out is how quickly his mother identified him as the monster. The other thing is how he dropped out of the highly advanced, high pressure PHD honors program just after his orals. I suspect he had a well hidden, advancing mental illness that his family knew about and concealed, hoping it would get better. Horribly, tragically, it got worse, far worse. I also suspect there will be may years of litigation and no death sentence that’s ever executed.


30 posted on 07/23/2012 3:15:59 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: libstripper

Someone wanted the patsy to look like this.


31 posted on 07/23/2012 3:21:57 PM PDT by toolman1401
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To: libstripper
The thing that stands out is how quickly his mother identified him as the monster.

That's evidently not exactly what happened.

“The reason we are here is that the media has been attributing certain statements to Arlene Holmes and taking her comments out of context,” lawyer Lisa Damiani said.

In the statement read Monday by Damiani, Arlene Holmes clarified that she had been awoken by a reporter at 5:45 a.m. on Friday, and asked if she knew anything about a shooting in Aurora. Holmes said she did not, and Arlene Holmes said the reporter asked if she was Arlene Holmes and if her son was James Holmes.

In the written statement, Arlene Holmes says that is when she responded with, “Yes, you have the right person,” referring to herself. Arlene Holmes said the reporter asked for a comment about the shooting in Aurora, but that she could not comment until she knew learned more, and if the person involved was in fact her son.

Mother of Shooting Suspect Clarifies ‘You Have The Right Person’ Comment

32 posted on 07/23/2012 3:35:54 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: libstripper
Since he was "in the process of withdrawing" from the program, it seems like he was losing his grip on things at that point. Sometimes the onset of a psychosis allows a short to moderate period of coping, wherein the victim is able to maintain some appearance of rationality, but at some point the floodgates break.

My guess is the court will order a psych exam (pretty standard in these kinds of cases) and then we'll see what the experts say. Again, just a layman's option, but based on those pictures it sure looks like there is a very lost personality in there somewhere (not that it excuses mass killing).

33 posted on 07/23/2012 3:46:05 PM PDT by chimera
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To: chimera

option—>opinion (hit the POST button too fast)


34 posted on 07/23/2012 3:46:52 PM PDT by chimera
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To: MD Expat in PA

Sounds like, as usual, TERRIBLE journalism. Well, what passes for journalism.


35 posted on 07/23/2012 3:47:25 PM PDT by brytlea (An ounce of chocolate is worth a pound of cure)
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To: brytlea

I learned all about that in elementary school (back in the mid ‘60’s) when some reporter from the local paper came to interview some 1st graders on their very 1st day of school and I was one of the kids that got chosen. When we got late edition of the paper that evening, not only did I find out the reporter totally misquoted me, but the picture they published of me was terrible, it made it look like I was picking my nose – which I wasn’t, I was scratching an itch or brushing some hair back, I don’t remember. Anyway I never trusted the press after that.


36 posted on 07/23/2012 3:55:24 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: libstripper

Historically, many geniuses are freaking nutballs.


37 posted on 07/23/2012 3:56:07 PM PDT by goseminoles
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To: Ron C.

The guy probably thinks that like The Joker he will soon escape.


38 posted on 07/23/2012 4:12:36 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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To: Ron C.
capitol punishment.

Is that where they strap you to a chair and make you listen to senators speechifying?

39 posted on 07/23/2012 4:15:30 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: MD Expat in PA

That stinks, but a good lesson to learn early.


40 posted on 07/23/2012 4:17:44 PM PDT by brytlea (An ounce of chocolate is worth a pound of cure)
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To: Ron C.

Lizard guy caught young.

41 posted on 07/23/2012 4:24:27 PM PDT by txhurl (Scott Walker is my President.)
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To: Salamander; Lancey Howard

Is he a lizard guy or what?

I’ve known more than a few of these types that didn’t have parents or community to steer them out of constant mayhem.


42 posted on 07/23/2012 5:03:08 PM PDT by txhurl (Scott Walker is my President.)
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To: chimera
"Since he was "in the process of withdrawing" from the program, it seems like he was losing his grip on things at that point."

I'm not familiar with PhD programs, but if he had failed his orals, would they have given him the option of voluntarily withdrawing rather than being officially kicked out?

43 posted on 07/23/2012 5:03:15 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Ron C.

44 posted on 07/23/2012 6:04:28 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: mass55th
It sounds like there oral exams were part of the process of advancing in the program to degree candidacy, kind of like a qualifying exam would be in other programs. I have been in two of those, one in physics, the other engineering. In both cases, you had two opportunities to pass the exams.

If this guy failed that type of exam and hadn't tried again, my guess is the failure just pushed him over the edge and he was quitting on his own initiative. Since he was unable to get a job in the field with an undergraduate degree (which is usually the case in a scientific field) maybe he felt he was at a dead end in terms of his dreams, and just broke down. I don't know, I'm guessing, of course, but I have seen any number of people wash out of degree programs and get pretty despondent about it, although none went out and shot anybody, fortunately.

45 posted on 07/23/2012 8:34:26 PM PDT by chimera
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To: chimera

Thanks for your reply.


46 posted on 07/23/2012 8:43:31 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Revolting cat!

He can always try out for the prison Stone Temple Pilots Tribute Band.


47 posted on 07/23/2012 8:44:27 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: txhurl

As we say out here, “If he was a horse, I wouldn’t walk behind him.”

[or “He’s got snakes.”]

They’re interchangeable.


48 posted on 07/23/2012 11:00:02 PM PDT by Salamander (I laugh to myself at the men and the ladies who never conceived of us billion dollar babies.)
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To: Ron C.

Maybe he’s in shock because somebody finally told him he should’ve used green hair dye and he’s embarrassed to death.

Whatever.

Fry him.

Then he’ll be The Smoker.


49 posted on 07/23/2012 11:02:22 PM PDT by Salamander (I laugh to myself at the men and the ladies who never conceived of us billion dollar babies.)
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To: Ron C.

There is a little bit of fear in there. I cant pinpoint it but I can see it. I dont think that all of this was in his master plan.

Damn details bite you in the ass every time!


50 posted on 07/23/2012 11:18:59 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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