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Mother of James Holmes Says She Didnít Tell ABC Her Son Was the Killer [Updated](ABC lies AGAIN)
New York Daily Mag ^ | July 23, 2012 | Joe Carscarelli

Posted on 07/23/2012 5:47:39 PM PDT by madison10

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ABC is an evil enterprise that has to lie to stay alive.
1 posted on 07/23/2012 5:47:53 PM PDT by madison10
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To: madison10

They have two new owners now, James Holmes, TEA Party and Arlene Holmes.


2 posted on 07/23/2012 5:51:56 PM PDT by txhurl (Scott Walker is my President.)
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To: madison10

So this woman is woken up at 545 am by some ABC reporter who starts peppering her with questions while she’s still half asleep and knows nothing of what happened yet.

Some jackass trying to impress his boss with the “big story”.

What scum they are.


3 posted on 07/23/2012 5:54:26 PM PDT by Col Frank Slade
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To: madison10
ABC

All the Bolshevik's Children

4 posted on 07/23/2012 5:55:40 PM PDT by Uriíel-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: madison10
She was sound asleep. They call her and ambush her with horrifying news, and then twist her words to their sensationalist needs.

FUABC.

5 posted on 07/23/2012 5:56:18 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: madison10

We report the news.

You seem to be confusing the news with the truth.


6 posted on 07/23/2012 5:57:50 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1280 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Heroes aren't made Frank, they're cornered...)
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To: madison10
Yeah, but the pyjamas media is bad because it's not "vetted."

/s

7 posted on 07/23/2012 6:01:32 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: madison10

I’m glad the mom made this statement. It clears up so much!
poor lady. What a way to wake up.

First Mr Zimmerman, now Mrs Holmes. Who’s next?
Reporters are supposed to report on reality, not create their own fiction.


8 posted on 07/23/2012 6:03:49 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Sorta changes the whole story, doesn’t it. The FCC isn’t good for much, but they sure need ro get after this one.


9 posted on 07/23/2012 6:04:57 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: madison10; All
".. Update: In a subsequent report today, ABC declined to make a correction, but included some additional details about the call between Arlene Holmes and ABC News producer Matthew Mosk:

Mosk said today that he awoke Arlene Holmes and informed her that a man, he believed was her son had been arrested in Aurora and asked to confirm their relationship..."

This is the same Matthew Mosk of MD4BUSH infamy. The bad penny turns up again!

Maryland's O'Malley Affair -- MD4BUSH and Ryan O'Doherty

MD4BUSH keyword

See Also:

FR Exclusive- Possible "Journolist" activism hit here

Sarah Palin Uses PAC to Buy Her Own Book (as did Hillary Clinton with Living History)

10 posted on 07/23/2012 6:05:28 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: madison10

I was skeptical of the way/context that she was quoted from the start. She’d have to be as big a nut as her boy to have said that in the context reported, why, if she had known of his potential, she could possibly be charged as an accomplice, or some sort of charge related to the event. Another bit of proof that ABC’s reporting is agenda based and/or dangerously incompetent.


11 posted on 07/23/2012 6:05:47 PM PDT by izzatzo (Just beat Obama.)
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To: madison10

The question is, who hired him to be the hit man?


12 posted on 07/23/2012 6:08:01 PM PDT by Paperdoll
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I’m so angry right now that I’m sitting here at my keyboard just shaking.
My wife and I have a small number of Disney Corp. shares. We’ve decided that if these people sue ABC, we’ll donate our shares to help with their legal expenses. We no longer want to be associated with that company in any way.


13 posted on 07/23/2012 6:13:42 PM PDT by beelzepug ("Blind obedience to arbitrary rules is a sign of mental illness")
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To: madison10

What a shock..ABC lied AGAIN..except this time even I fell for it thinking that is what she said..this is why NO ONE trusts the media..what was even more disgusting is that the second after this tragedy happened the first thing ABC does is try to find a connection with the tea party..anything to connect this guy with the GOP..that is the goal of the “Media” today..when a tragedy strikes the first thing they think about is how can this help the Democrat party


14 posted on 07/23/2012 6:21:12 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Col Frank Slade

That was before Brian Ross & Steponallofus declared it was the Tea Party.


15 posted on 07/23/2012 6:33:46 PM PDT by bray (If you vote for a Communist, what's that make you?)
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16 posted on 07/23/2012 6:34:09 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop
I keep harping on this, over & over..... The MSM is destroying America. THEY (MSM) are the REAL problem that we need to fix. Would Obama be dangerous if the MSM wasn't covering up for him?
17 posted on 07/23/2012 6:49:55 PM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: madison10

I hope she and the defamed TEA party Holmes sue ABC out of existence.
.......................................
And this ought to quiet some of the conspiracy theories about how he paid for it:

Holmes received $171,024 from the National Institute of Health for his first year in the program.:

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_21140571/cu-officials-defend-academic-personal-support-available-holmes

On the other hand: 0bama and Co, DID actually fund this massacre.

And a further example of why this nation is so incredibly in debt.


18 posted on 07/23/2012 7:12:32 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: madison10

My word they are despicable. And....I dont’ have to go to work tomorrow so I can call up and tell them so.


19 posted on 07/23/2012 7:20:34 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: Col Frank Slade

While I agree that ABC is scummy in its reporting, how do we know the mother risn’t changing her story on advice from her or her son’s attorney?


20 posted on 07/23/2012 7:27:00 PM PDT by turn_to
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To: turn_to

I don’t believe she’s changing her story simply for the fact that saying they have the right person just doesn’t make sense. Was she shown a photo of the shooter? How could she identify him over the phone? how? Ya think she’d recognize him with red hair?

Do you think she would be sleeping soundly knowing her son was planning to kill people that night?


21 posted on 07/23/2012 7:39:29 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: madison10
Oh, FTA:

This statement is to clarify a statement made by ABC media," said Holmes today through her lawyer, Lisa Damiani.

Looks like mommy is a victim of the common LUIDOL (Lawyered Up In Danger Of litigation) syndrome.

22 posted on 07/23/2012 7:45:41 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: 1_Rain_Drop
ABC, 545am: "Is this the mother of James Holmes?"

Arlene: "Yes, that's my son's name"

ABC news crawl: "Woman admits that son is the right man"

23 posted on 07/23/2012 7:47:24 PM PDT by boop (I hate hippies and dopeheads. Just hate them. ...Ernest Borgnine)
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To: turn_to

I just read an extremely relative book to this situation. Great fictional novel by Jodi Piccoult, “Nineteen Minutes.”. Definitely worth it.


24 posted on 07/23/2012 7:48:54 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: LegendHasIt

While reading that article, I wonder if that program didn’t mess up Holmes’ brain. They do a background check and the kid passed, so he must have been sane when he enrolled. Something must have happened during that year.


25 posted on 07/23/2012 7:50:00 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: boop

Ok, I’ll bite.

She identified his name, not his face.


26 posted on 07/23/2012 7:52:59 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: madison10
I thought this sounded very fishy from the start. It sounded like someone could have easily asked, "Is this so-n-so who is related to James Holmes?" and the person could have answered, "Yes, you have the right person."

Sounds like that is exactly what happened. ABC needs to have their credentials (whatever those might be) revoked permanently.

27 posted on 07/23/2012 8:09:25 PM PDT by ponygirl (Be Breitbart.)
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To: turn_to

For a lawyer—an officer of the court—to suborn perjury could get such lawyer disbarred in a hurry. I doubt s/he would take such a risk “right out of the gate”.
HF


28 posted on 07/23/2012 8:18:10 PM PDT by holden
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To: turn_to

That is true, but ABC’ record is dismal.


29 posted on 07/23/2012 8:42:57 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Obama 07/22/12: "we all reflect on how we can do something about some of the senseless violence...")
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To: izzatzo

The son is an adult; she would not be an accomplice for simply knowing he is off his rocker.


30 posted on 07/23/2012 9:00:47 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit (School is prison for children who have commited the crime of being born. (attr: St_Thomas_Aquinas))
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To: ican'tbelieveit

I thought from the first that she was telling the caller that she was the right person. Anything else made no sense.


31 posted on 07/23/2012 9:35:23 PM PDT by WVNan ("Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy." - Winston)
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To: madison10

Do they have ANY professionals at ABC? Another screwup that won’t be punished.


32 posted on 07/23/2012 9:35:41 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: madison10

Seems like everyone at ABC is a Ted Baxter wannabe.


33 posted on 07/23/2012 9:40:49 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: madison10

Plenty of folks here on Free Republic repeated that “quote”.


34 posted on 07/23/2012 10:09:40 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will j rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: Coldwater Creek
An attorney would advise to walk that back, something blurted out in shock and sadness in the midst of what had to be terrifying news. Maybe she said it in the context as reported, maybe she said it as represented now, after the fact. It could be construed to indicate possible culpability, and was construed in that manner. She has every reason to attempt to undo it. Funny it didn't come until today, the start of the business week.
35 posted on 07/23/2012 10:15:21 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: madison10

Most of you are jumping to irrational conclusions again, like you have for most of this story.

It is indeed a common tactic for a lawyer to tell their client to walk a statement such as the one the mother made back. I am almost positive that is what is occurring here. She’s going to have to give a deposition under oath that she thought her son was insane based on the statements she provided ABC. Of course her lawyer would tell her to attempt to change the initial version.

Although ABC is a scumbag organization, I doubt they twisted her words in this case.

Sheesh, not everything is a tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy. Being paranoid about literally everything in the world is no good for your health.


36 posted on 07/23/2012 10:25:59 PM PDT by hitchwolf
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To: madison10

As soon as I heard the statement I knew she was referring only to herself. The media tried to spin it and some folks took it hook, line and sinker.


37 posted on 07/23/2012 10:26:58 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: txhurl
They have two new owners now, James Holmes, TEA Party and Arlene Holmes.

lol. They can change the name to the "Holmes Broadcasting Company."

38 posted on 07/23/2012 11:59:31 PM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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“My question is, who hired him to be the hit man?”

My question EXACTLY! Why aren't authorities or any conservative talk show hosts for starters talking about the statement given by a survivor of the shooting by the name of Corbin Dates...www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4MW_qhAPAU&feature=player_embedded. This was a CNN TV interview with Dates on the phone, and which is being carried by Youtube. Dates states that he was sitting in the second row in theatre 9. In the first row in front of him, a man took a phone call and then got up and walked to the emergency exit door and propped open the door, while seemingly giving the caller instructions/directions about something. The man with the phone then walked back to his seat. Dates stated that 20 minutes later into the film, the exit door opens and the shooter walks in, throws a smoke bomb and starts shooting. Dates stated that there was something wrong, in that the shooter was 5'8”to 5'9” tall, and the man with the phone was not. FBI stated in a report that Holmes is 6'3” tall. Corbin didn't describe the man with the phone in any detail and the TV anchor failed to ask him. But Dates’ point was THERE WERE TWO MEN INVOLVED. The FBI reported that Holmes is 6'3” tall. If Holmes is suppose to be the shooter, and the shooter observed by Corbin Dates was 5'8” to 5'9”, a definite difference, then WHO IS THE SHOOTER? And WHO is the man with the phone?

Did the police ask Dates to describe the man with the phone? Did they show Dates pictures of Holmes, with and without red hair, profile as well as full frontal? Did the police ask this man's approximate height? Do the police have proof that Holmes bought a ticket and walked into the theatre..do they have a ticket stub, or his image on a camera positioned in the theatre? What proof is there that Holmes WAS in the theatre...if we knew the description of the man with the phone, HE may have been Holmes, or yet another accomplice.

Holmes was not proficient with firearms, according to a police statement on 7-23. Holmes was mild-mannered, mentally ill, delusional, a loner and unemployed. I believe he was “recruited” by a Soros operative to be the front man for this massacre..his background was clean and he wasn't involved with any OWS groups, and he was delusional and mentally ill, and pliable, and they worked their persuasion on Holmes.

Both Oboma and Soros want the UN Arms Treaty that will be voted upon this week. Oboma needs this treaty to grab the guns from We the People, in the event he looks to be losing the vote, or does lose the vote in November. Soros planned this evil attack on Americans to garner sympathy from the American people, the Congress for gun control. Oboma, who was caught up in the Fast and Furious scandal, couldn't risk being connected to another diabolical act against the USA and its citizens. So a green light was given to Soros to provide the plan, the money, the technical knowledge and the manpower to pull off this massacre.

According to reports I read, and you can google any of this to read further, a smoke canister was thrown by the shooter before he started shooting. There was also ANOTHER smoke canister thrown into the audience on the opposite side of the theatre. My guess is that the man with the phone had left his front row seat sometime during the beginning of the movie and moved to the other side of the threate, unnoticed by anyone in particular. His job was also to throw the smoke canister to blind the audience, and then get out of the theatre before the shooting started. The shooter was a sharpshooter, and Holmes is not. It was necessary that Holmes was caught dressed in black, with the gear, the mask and the gloves on. The shooter's background could be traced and his connection to Soros could be found out, and so he had to get out of his clothes, gear, mask, gloves and guns, and give them to Holmes who was waiting for him at the back of the entrance to the propped open exit door, where Holmes had parked his car. For forensic purposes, Holmes had to don the clothing the shooter was wearing and obtain his guns and smoke canisters. The shooter was then whisked away by car, and is probably out of the country. As it turned out, Holmes was arrested standing where his car was parked due to the keen eye of a police officer who noticed that what Holmes was wearing was somewhat different from the other officers dressed in similar garb. This is my take on what happened, assuming that Holmes WAS the man with the phone. All of what I have written can be confirmed by googling interviews of survivors at theatre in Aurora, CO, etc.

If Holmes was NOT the man with the phone, then there was a third accomplice. Holmes may have never entered the theatre, but instead was waiting in his car parked near the entrance to the propped open emergency exit door. He then could have grabbed the clothes and gear, guns, etc. from the shooter who ran up to the car, and who was then driven away and then out of the country.

Oboma and Soros cannot get away with this. They will do anything to make this country socialist/communist/marxist. And oboma will not give up his “presidency”..he wants to be dictator, and, of course, keep his promise to Putin, that he will “be able to do more after he is elected.” When these two subversives shed the blood of American citizens on our shores, we must destroy this evil with all our might.

Now, are the cops going to pursue the lead that there were two men involved as per Corbin Dates interview? Is anyone else in the Republican Party, among the conservatives, in the Senate going to follow up on Corbin Dates interview..will they be able to connect this subversive attack with the desired passage by both Oboma and Soros, of the UN Arms Treaty up for a vote this week?

The Republicans in our government were successful in unraveling Fast and Furious...we citizens in this country will NOT allow this travesty to go unpunished, will not allow these enemies of the people in our government to draw another breath, if in fact this can be proved. Who is going to step up and investigate? Colorado is a liberal state with a Democratic/socialist govenor. Who is going to step up? The police state there was no outside influence involved with Holmes. Who is going to step up and investigate these leads? We will soon find out.

39 posted on 07/24/2012 12:45:01 AM PDT by itssme
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To: Paperdoll
The question is, who hired him to be the hit man?


40 posted on 07/24/2012 12:48:23 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: madison10

It doesn’t have to, it just isn’t able to stop, sort of like breathing or using the bathroom.


41 posted on 07/24/2012 2:09:25 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: turn_to

If it’s her word against ABC News, I believe her.


42 posted on 07/24/2012 7:11:47 AM PDT by Col Frank Slade
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To: hitchwolf; mickie
I agree with your assessment. Not matter WHAT she was alluding to in her initial statement to ABC, there's no doubt that the public defenders have swooped down on her and told her to "clarify" the statement as it can be construed as harmful to her son....and also to clear it up if and when she ever goes under oath.

The mother has an "agenda" (a natural instinct to protect her son), ABC has an agenda (a natural MSM instinct to destroy the conservative movement), the public defenders have an agenda (to protect their client).......leaving only the agenda of the perp which is as yet unknown.

Leni

43 posted on 07/24/2012 8:11:19 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: MinuteGal

It is worth noting that the lawyer for the family first checked with ABC to see if they had a recording of the conversation before challenging ABC’s version of the conversation.


44 posted on 07/24/2012 10:23:29 AM PDT by the808bass
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I was sceptical of ABC’s version of what the mom said from the beginning. It sounded far fetched. “you got the right person” is a common phrase used when someone is asking questions over the phone and you are confirming identification.

Holmes is a common name


45 posted on 07/24/2012 1:00:55 PM PDT by snowstorm12
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To: madison10

At first I thought she was backtracking, but if they called her in the early morning, waking her up, that changes things. She was apparently groggy and didn’t know what was going on.


46 posted on 07/24/2012 10:30:30 PM PDT by proud American in Canada (Pray for America. She is the world's last best hope for freedom. May it not be too late.)
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To: itssme
I think your theory is a bit far fetched. However, there are several points to consider, who was on the phone and opened the door. Also what happened when the shooter exited?

Most movie theater complexes have security cameras on site.

Sneaking in the movies (via the exit) is a long-standing problem. Was there a camera pointed at the exit door from the outside?

Additionally, there is a problem with crooks breaking into cars at movie theaters. Were there cameras pointed at the parking lot?

We probably are not being told all of the details in this massacre.

When the Tampa teen terrorist stole and crashed a plane in the wake of 9-11, we were ASSURED it wasn't terrorism and that he was even a member of the Young Republicans at school. Except his real name came out afterwards (Charles Bishra, not just Charles Bishop) and he had a suicide note calling it a "terrorist act" that he was engaging in and pledged support to Bin Laden.

The letter was suppressed until after the Superbowl probably because of his empty bomb threat against the game.

We know that the authorties have lied to us in the recent past and withheld details.

Meanwhile, he's still being referred to as a suspect. Hope they got the right guy.

47 posted on 07/24/2012 10:38:16 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Eric Holder's NAACP rally against the voter ID laws required the press to bring govt issue photo ID.)
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To: a fool in paradise
Two questions uppermost in my mind are: WHO is the man with the phone. Also, since the shooter was identified by Corbin Dates as a man who was 5'8” to 5'9”, and Holmes is 6'3”, Who is the shooter? The shooter wore a mask, and his face was NEVER seen as he continued to shoot people. And yes, did cameras pick up any image of Holmes IN the theatre at any time? He was found OUTSIDE of the theatre. And will we ever find out the truth as to whether the police have proof that Holmes bought a ticket and is on camera somewhere INSIDE the theatre.

The eyewitness description of both of these men cannot be ignored...I pray that someone digs deep into this story for the truth, and that We the People learn the truth. But, I won't hold my breath til then.

48 posted on 07/24/2012 11:14:59 PM PDT by itssme
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To: itssme

I’m not interested in video on who entered with tickets. If there is video of the EXIT, it would be important to know who entered/exited.

Also, did ANYONE run cellphone video? Those things are everywhere these days?

Or do people only text/talk in theaters on phones these days?

Some theaters even have cameras set up internally to catch those videoing movies off the screen.


49 posted on 07/24/2012 11:26:10 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Eric Holder's NAACP rally against the voter ID laws required the press to bring govt issue photo ID.)
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To: madison10
Those with common sense attempted to tell others as far back as last Saturday, this was no big deal, and the Mother was likely just confirming who she was, or confirming this was her son when asked.

Others jumped on this believing every word the media said and assumed the mother knew her son was capable of evil, mass murder etc...

It was just bizarre how hysterical people became when hearing that, assuming the Mom knew this would happen, but remained silent.

In a world gone mad.

50 posted on 07/25/2012 8:41:19 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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