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Posted on 07/23/2012 5:47:39 PM PDT by madison10
They have two new owners now, James Holmes, TEA Party and Arlene Holmes.
So this woman is woken up at 545 am by some ABC reporter who starts peppering her with questions while she’s still half asleep and knows nothing of what happened yet.
Some jackass trying to impress his boss with the “big story”.
What scum they are.
All the Bolshevik's Children
FUABC.
We report the news.
You seem to be confusing the news with the truth.
/s
I’m glad the mom made this statement. It clears up so much!
poor lady. What a way to wake up.
First Mr Zimmerman, now Mrs Holmes. Who’s next?
Reporters are supposed to report on reality, not create their own fiction.
Sorta changes the whole story, doesn’t it. The FCC isn’t good for much, but they sure need ro get after this one.
Mosk said today that he awoke Arlene Holmes and informed her that a man, he believed was her son had been arrested in Aurora and asked to confirm their relationship..."
This is the same Matthew Mosk of MD4BUSH infamy. The bad penny turns up again!
Maryland's O'Malley Affair -- MD4BUSH and Ryan O'Doherty
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I was skeptical of the way/context that she was quoted from the start. She’d have to be as big a nut as her boy to have said that in the context reported, why, if she had known of his potential, she could possibly be charged as an accomplice, or some sort of charge related to the event. Another bit of proof that ABC’s reporting is agenda based and/or dangerously incompetent.
The question is, who hired him to be the hit man?
I’m so angry right now that I’m sitting here at my keyboard just shaking.
My wife and I have a small number of Disney Corp. shares. We’ve decided that if these people sue ABC, we’ll donate our shares to help with their legal expenses. We no longer want to be associated with that company in any way.
What a shock..ABC lied AGAIN..except this time even I fell for it thinking that is what she said..this is why NO ONE trusts the media..what was even more disgusting is that the second after this tragedy happened the first thing ABC does is try to find a connection with the tea party..anything to connect this guy with the GOP..that is the goal of the “Media” today..when a tragedy strikes the first thing they think about is how can this help the Democrat party
That was before Brian Ross & Steponallofus declared it was the Tea Party.
I hope she and the defamed TEA party Holmes sue ABC out of existence.
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And this ought to quiet some of the conspiracy theories about how he paid for it:
Holmes received $171,024 from the National Institute of Health for his first year in the program.:
On the other hand: 0bama and Co, DID actually fund this massacre.
And a further example of why this nation is so incredibly in debt.
My word they are despicable. And....I dont’ have to go to work tomorrow so I can call up and tell them so.
While I agree that ABC is scummy in its reporting, how do we know the mother risn’t changing her story on advice from her or her son’s attorney?
I don’t believe she’s changing her story simply for the fact that saying they have the right person just doesn’t make sense. Was she shown a photo of the shooter? How could she identify him over the phone? how? Ya think she’d recognize him with red hair?
Do you think she would be sleeping soundly knowing her son was planning to kill people that night?
This statement is to clarify a statement made by ABC media," said Holmes today through her lawyer, Lisa Damiani.
Looks like mommy is a victim of the common LUIDOL (Lawyered Up In Danger Of litigation) syndrome.
Arlene: "Yes, that's my son's name"
ABC news crawl: "Woman admits that son is the right man"
I just read an extremely relative book to this situation. Great fictional novel by Jodi Piccoult, “Nineteen Minutes.”. Definitely worth it.
While reading that article, I wonder if that program didn’t mess up Holmes’ brain. They do a background check and the kid passed, so he must have been sane when he enrolled. Something must have happened during that year.
Ok, I’ll bite.
She identified his name, not his face.
Sounds like that is exactly what happened. ABC needs to have their credentials (whatever those might be) revoked permanently.
For a lawyer—an officer of the court—to suborn perjury could get such lawyer disbarred in a hurry. I doubt s/he would take such a risk “right out of the gate”.
HF
That is true, but ABC’ record is dismal.
The son is an adult; she would not be an accomplice for simply knowing he is off his rocker.
I thought from the first that she was telling the caller that she was the right person. Anything else made no sense.
Do they have ANY professionals at ABC? Another screwup that won’t be punished.
Seems like everyone at ABC is a Ted Baxter wannabe.
Plenty of folks here on Free Republic repeated that “quote”.
Most of you are jumping to irrational conclusions again, like you have for most of this story.
It is indeed a common tactic for a lawyer to tell their client to walk a statement such as the one the mother made back. I am almost positive that is what is occurring here. She’s going to have to give a deposition under oath that she thought her son was insane based on the statements she provided ABC. Of course her lawyer would tell her to attempt to change the initial version.
Although ABC is a scumbag organization, I doubt they twisted her words in this case.
Sheesh, not everything is a tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy. Being paranoid about literally everything in the world is no good for your health.
As soon as I heard the statement I knew she was referring only to herself. The media tried to spin it and some folks took it hook, line and sinker.
lol. They can change the name to the "Holmes Broadcasting Company."
My question EXACTLY! Why aren't authorities or any conservative talk show hosts for starters talking about the statement given by a survivor of the shooting by the name of Corbin Dates...www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4MW_qhAPAU&feature=player_embedded. This was a CNN TV interview with Dates on the phone, and which is being carried by Youtube. Dates states that he was sitting in the second row in theatre 9. In the first row in front of him, a man took a phone call and then got up and walked to the emergency exit door and propped open the door, while seemingly giving the caller instructions/directions about something. The man with the phone then walked back to his seat. Dates stated that 20 minutes later into the film, the exit door opens and the shooter walks in, throws a smoke bomb and starts shooting. Dates stated that there was something wrong, in that the shooter was 5'8”to 5'9” tall, and the man with the phone was not. FBI stated in a report that Holmes is 6'3” tall. Corbin didn't describe the man with the phone in any detail and the TV anchor failed to ask him. But Dates’ point was THERE WERE TWO MEN INVOLVED. The FBI reported that Holmes is 6'3” tall. If Holmes is suppose to be the shooter, and the shooter observed by Corbin Dates was 5'8” to 5'9”, a definite difference, then WHO IS THE SHOOTER? And WHO is the man with the phone?
Did the police ask Dates to describe the man with the phone? Did they show Dates pictures of Holmes, with and without red hair, profile as well as full frontal? Did the police ask this man's approximate height? Do the police have proof that Holmes bought a ticket and walked into the theatre..do they have a ticket stub, or his image on a camera positioned in the theatre? What proof is there that Holmes WAS in the theatre...if we knew the description of the man with the phone, HE may have been Holmes, or yet another accomplice.
Holmes was not proficient with firearms, according to a police statement on 7-23. Holmes was mild-mannered, mentally ill, delusional, a loner and unemployed. I believe he was “recruited” by a Soros operative to be the front man for this massacre..his background was clean and he wasn't involved with any OWS groups, and he was delusional and mentally ill, and pliable, and they worked their persuasion on Holmes.
Both Oboma and Soros want the UN Arms Treaty that will be voted upon this week. Oboma needs this treaty to grab the guns from We the People, in the event he looks to be losing the vote, or does lose the vote in November. Soros planned this evil attack on Americans to garner sympathy from the American people, the Congress for gun control. Oboma, who was caught up in the Fast and Furious scandal, couldn't risk being connected to another diabolical act against the USA and its citizens. So a green light was given to Soros to provide the plan, the money, the technical knowledge and the manpower to pull off this massacre.
According to reports I read, and you can google any of this to read further, a smoke canister was thrown by the shooter before he started shooting. There was also ANOTHER smoke canister thrown into the audience on the opposite side of the theatre. My guess is that the man with the phone had left his front row seat sometime during the beginning of the movie and moved to the other side of the threate, unnoticed by anyone in particular. His job was also to throw the smoke canister to blind the audience, and then get out of the theatre before the shooting started. The shooter was a sharpshooter, and Holmes is not. It was necessary that Holmes was caught dressed in black, with the gear, the mask and the gloves on. The shooter's background could be traced and his connection to Soros could be found out, and so he had to get out of his clothes, gear, mask, gloves and guns, and give them to Holmes who was waiting for him at the back of the entrance to the propped open exit door, where Holmes had parked his car. For forensic purposes, Holmes had to don the clothing the shooter was wearing and obtain his guns and smoke canisters. The shooter was then whisked away by car, and is probably out of the country. As it turned out, Holmes was arrested standing where his car was parked due to the keen eye of a police officer who noticed that what Holmes was wearing was somewhat different from the other officers dressed in similar garb. This is my take on what happened, assuming that Holmes WAS the man with the phone. All of what I have written can be confirmed by googling interviews of survivors at theatre in Aurora, CO, etc.
If Holmes was NOT the man with the phone, then there was a third accomplice. Holmes may have never entered the theatre, but instead was waiting in his car parked near the entrance to the propped open emergency exit door. He then could have grabbed the clothes and gear, guns, etc. from the shooter who ran up to the car, and who was then driven away and then out of the country.
Oboma and Soros cannot get away with this. They will do anything to make this country socialist/communist/marxist. And oboma will not give up his “presidency”..he wants to be dictator, and, of course, keep his promise to Putin, that he will “be able to do more after he is elected.” When these two subversives shed the blood of American citizens on our shores, we must destroy this evil with all our might.
Now, are the cops going to pursue the lead that there were two men involved as per Corbin Dates interview? Is anyone else in the Republican Party, among the conservatives, in the Senate going to follow up on Corbin Dates interview..will they be able to connect this subversive attack with the desired passage by both Oboma and Soros, of the UN Arms Treaty up for a vote this week?
The Republicans in our government were successful in unraveling Fast and Furious...we citizens in this country will NOT allow this travesty to go unpunished, will not allow these enemies of the people in our government to draw another breath, if in fact this can be proved. Who is going to step up and investigate? Colorado is a liberal state with a Democratic/socialist govenor. Who is going to step up? The police state there was no outside influence involved with Holmes. Who is going to step up and investigate these leads? We will soon find out.
It doesn’t have to, it just isn’t able to stop, sort of like breathing or using the bathroom.
If it’s her word against ABC News, I believe her.
The mother has an "agenda" (a natural instinct to protect her son), ABC has an agenda (a natural MSM instinct to destroy the conservative movement), the public defenders have an agenda (to protect their client).......leaving only the agenda of the perp which is as yet unknown.
Leni
It is worth noting that the lawyer for the family first checked with ABC to see if they had a recording of the conversation before challenging ABC’s version of the conversation.
I was sceptical of ABC’s version of what the mom said from the beginning. It sounded far fetched. “you got the right person” is a common phrase used when someone is asking questions over the phone and you are confirming identification.
Holmes is a common name
At first I thought she was backtracking, but if they called her in the early morning, waking her up, that changes things. She was apparently groggy and didn’t know what was going on.
Most movie theater complexes have security cameras on site.
Sneaking in the movies (via the exit) is a long-standing problem. Was there a camera pointed at the exit door from the outside?
Additionally, there is a problem with crooks breaking into cars at movie theaters. Were there cameras pointed at the parking lot?
We probably are not being told all of the details in this massacre.
When the Tampa teen terrorist stole and crashed a plane in the wake of 9-11, we were ASSURED it wasn't terrorism and that he was even a member of the Young Republicans at school. Except his real name came out afterwards (Charles Bishra, not just Charles Bishop) and he had a suicide note calling it a "terrorist act" that he was engaging in and pledged support to Bin Laden.
The letter was suppressed until after the Superbowl probably because of his empty bomb threat against the game.
We know that the authorties have lied to us in the recent past and withheld details.
Meanwhile, he's still being referred to as a suspect. Hope they got the right guy.
The eyewitness description of both of these men cannot be ignored...I pray that someone digs deep into this story for the truth, and that We the People learn the truth. But, I won't hold my breath til then.
I’m not interested in video on who entered with tickets. If there is video of the EXIT, it would be important to know who entered/exited.
Also, did ANYONE run cellphone video? Those things are everywhere these days?
Or do people only text/talk in theaters on phones these days?
Some theaters even have cameras set up internally to catch those videoing movies off the screen.
Others jumped on this believing every word the media said and assumed the mother knew her son was capable of evil, mass murder etc...
It was just bizarre how hysterical people became when hearing that, assuming the Mom knew this would happen, but remained silent.
In a world gone mad.
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