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Concealed carry permits on the rise locally(KS)
thekansan.com ^ | 21 July, 2012 | James Jordan

Posted on 07/23/2012 6:01:40 PM PDT by marktwain

NEWTON —

More and more people are getting permits to carry concealed weapons, both around the state and in Harvey County.

According to figures released by the state attorney general, there were 12,408 permit applications in the just finished fiscal year of 2012, up from 9,148 in 2011. Since the law was enacted in 2006 allowing concealed carry in Kansas, there have been more than 44,000 permits issued.

Harvey County Sheriff T. Walton said he has noticed an increase locally in people wanting permits to carry concealed weapons.

“We are getting about 15 applications per month,” Walton said. “Just this week we have had seven.”

He was not sure why there has been an increase.

“Some people are afraid the government is going to take their guns, but there are several reasons people want permits,” Walton said. “There have also been some burglaries. There are several reasons that people have (for wanting a permit).”

To get a concealed carry permit, a person has to complete a nine-hour class. That application has to be approved by the sheriff, and the person must be finger-printed.

Bart Kellum, owner of Patriot Pawn in Newton, sells firearms and conducts classes for concealed carry permits.

“I think there is more interest now,” he said, noting he has seen an increase in people wanting to take the class.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; ccw; ks; opencarry
CCW permit in the United States has passed 8 million. We have passed a tipping point. These people are not minors or felons. They think ahead. Virtually all of them vote. This is 6 percent of those who voted in 2008.

No CCW law has ever been revoked, but many have been reformed to make them more accessable, and three states (Alaska, Arizona, and Wyoming) have made concealed carry without a permit legal)

1 posted on 07/23/2012 6:01:54 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Five or six multi-casualty single shooter nutcase incidents - over the course of a week or two - and Chuck Schumer will shut down the Second.

That’s all it would take.


2 posted on 07/23/2012 6:07:00 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: marktwain

Shouldn’t need one. Your permit was issued in 1791.


3 posted on 07/23/2012 6:14:05 PM PDT by Crazieman (Are you naive enough to think VOTING will fix this entrenched system?)
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To: marktwain

One big reason for getting CCW is the concern that the police either won’t be there to protect you when TSHTF, or that they will be constrained by their political masters from taking action against criminals or rioters (as apparently happened during the NY Crown Heights Riots a couple of decades ago).


4 posted on 07/23/2012 6:15:24 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: marktwain

For anyone to find out what CCL holders are like — visit a gunshow.

You won’t find a nicer, more helpful, pleasant and polite bunch of people.

I feel safe and right at home when surrounded by people who, after the show, pack heat. An added attraction in Texas is that they have awesome jerkey.


5 posted on 07/23/2012 6:15:54 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: marktwain

Newton KS is home to a pacifist college, It’s Bethel College. As a former Mennonite, I can tell you that they aren’t going to be happy with this news.

The news itself may be banned from campus because it contains the word ‘gun’.

Gays, I believe, are welcome though.


6 posted on 07/23/2012 6:28:43 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: Steely Tom

A few more truck wrecks like the one in South Texas and Schumer will want to take away all the vehicles.

Wonder why obama won’t hold a memorial for those folks? They were coming here because obama invited them.


7 posted on 07/23/2012 6:46:17 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( To kin and former friends: Do not attempt to contact me as long as you love obama.)
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To: Steely Tom

Unless, of course, those incidents all happen in Chicago :p


8 posted on 07/23/2012 6:51:09 PM PDT by Ellendra ("It's astounding how often people mistake their own stupidity for a lack of fairness." --Thunt)
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To: Terry Mross
A few more truck wrecks like the one in South Texas and Schumer will want to take away all the vehicles.

Wonder why obama won’t hold a memorial for those folks? They were coming here because obama invited them.

Cause trucks can't be used to defend yourself and your family against an out-of-control government?

9 posted on 07/23/2012 6:53:33 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Steely Tom
Five or six multi-casualty single shooter nutcase incidents - over the course of a week or two -

Sounds like a weekend in Chicago.

10 posted on 07/23/2012 6:54:18 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Steely Tom
Sure they can !


11 posted on 07/23/2012 6:59:21 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: EGPWS
Sounds like a weekend in Chicago.

Inner-city shootings don't count, for a variety of reasons.

And the fact that they don't count... itself doesn't count.

If the White House was occupied by a Republican, you can bet your last dollar that it would count, big time.

12 posted on 07/23/2012 7:00:53 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: marktwain

I think its great these numbers are rising!!


13 posted on 07/23/2012 7:02:38 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: marktwain

Arizona’s situation is becoming sociologically interesting, because ubiquitous concealed firearms are almost like no firearms at all, *except* there now *must* be civility.

In a gun-less society, freedom can become “license”, by this definition, “lack of civil restraint”. A person can be a bully, act in an irrational and threatening manner, intimidate and coerce, harass and sexually harass, even be aggressive and menacing. And not just to adults, but to children.

It is very, very unwise to engage in such license when many people are armed. Because then, “Your freedom ends where my nose begins.”

Importantly, and oddly enough, this does *not* mean the frequent brandishing of guns when someone misbehaves; but the *ability* to brandish if what is annoying becomes dangerous. And this changes the whole equation.

The armed person is far less likely to be intimidated; and the person who wants to intimidate will quickly figure out that it is not working, and there is a reason it is not working. And that reason fires bullets.

Even the mentally ill who lack social self control may indulge in their illness with bad behavior, yet they can also maintain their composure when it is important that they do so. And what is more important than not getting shot?


14 posted on 07/23/2012 8:12:42 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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