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Pennsylvania coal companies announce layoffs, blame Obama
Washington Examiner ^ | 7/23/2012 | Joel Gehrke

Posted on 07/23/2012 6:17:40 PM PDT by markomalley

Two coal companies in Pennsylvania blamed President Obama and his Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) for the layoffs announced last week.

“[T]he escalating costs and uncertainty generated by recently advanced EPA regulations and interpretations have created a challenging business climate for the entire coal industry,” said PBS Coals Inc. President and CEO D. Lynn Shanks in a statement on Friday, as noted by the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. The company also cited weaker-than-normal demand for coal.

Shanks’ comment on the EPA came as he announced a 28 percent work force reduction. “PBS Coals Inc. and its affiliate company, RoxCoal Inc., laid off about 225 workers as part of an immediate idling of some deep and surface mines in Somerset County,” Post-Gazette added. “The company now employs 795 workers.”

House Oversight and Government Reform Committee staff issued a report last week faulting the EPA for over-regulating the industries under its control. “Over 40 EPA regulations cited by job creators as barriers to growth and expansion in the Committee’s February 2011 staff report remain a problem,” the staff report said. “EPA’s proposal to regulate coal combustion residuals (“coal ash”) usurps states’ previous role and exerts unprecedented federal control over the utility industry . . . Compliance costs range from $78-110 billion over the next 20 years while job loss estimates range from 39,000, under a low estimate, to 316,000, under a high estimate.”

General Manager Ronald Koontz, a mine manager, hit the president for waging a “war on coal seeking to destroy the coal industry and the jobs of our own employees and the livelihoods of their families.”

Koontz’ remark dovetails with those of EPA’s New England Regional Administrator Curt Spaulding, who said the EPA had adopted a policy towards the coal industry that amounted to saying “we just think those communities should just go away,” as he put it earlier this year.

“You can’t imagine how tough that was, because — you got to remember — if you go to West Virginia, Pennsylvania, and all those places, you have coal communities who depend on coal,” Spaulding said. “It is painful every step of the way.”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2012; bhoeconomy; bhoenergy; bhofascism; coal; democrats; elections; envirofascism; epa; epafraud; epaisajoke; epaoutofcontrol; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; greenfraud; hopeychangey; layoffs; nobama2012; obama; obamaeconomy; obamarecession; obamatruthfile; obamavoters; pa2012; pennsylvania; pennsylvaniacoal; thegreenlie; unions
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1 posted on 07/23/2012 6:17:43 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

I wonder what the coal miners union has to say? Are they proud of backing Obama in 2008?


2 posted on 07/23/2012 6:19:04 PM PDT by MeganC (The Cinemark theatre in Aurora, CO is a 'Gun Free Zone'. Spread the word.)
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To: markomalley

Election 2008 results in PA: 0bama 55% - McCain 44%

You voted for this Pennsylvania. You better change course in 2012 or you are through, along with the rest of us!


3 posted on 07/23/2012 6:23:47 PM PDT by GR_Jr. (Vote Obama out now.....deal with Romney later.)
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To: MeganC

The coal unions will still give 95% of their money to Ohbummer. They could care less about their workers.


4 posted on 07/23/2012 6:30:03 PM PDT by bray (If you vote for a Communist, what's that make you?)
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To: markomalley

Obama told us he intended to get rid of the coal companies before he was elected president. And still they voted for him.


5 posted on 07/23/2012 6:31:07 PM PDT by winkadink (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. George Orwell)
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To: GR_Jr.

Yep, there were so many here that did.

Senate candidate Tom Smith needs to hammer this home. We need that Senate seat, along with the Presidency.

Yet I still see a lot of 0bamphiles around. Guess you just can’t fix stupid everywhere but lets just pray that it’s been fixed enough.


6 posted on 07/23/2012 6:32:51 PM PDT by SueRae (See it? Hell, I can TASTE November from my house!)
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To: markomalley
and with less industrial size coal made, the byproduct of home heating size coal will cost more now hitting those who can least afford the increase...
7 posted on 07/23/2012 6:34:06 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: markomalley

I hope they remember why they’re out of work and who put them there November 6th.


8 posted on 07/23/2012 6:39:48 PM PDT by NCC-1701 (I woulde)
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To: markomalley

Looks like “disability” is all they have left. Oh well, Pelosi says they will have more time to learn how to play the guitar, paint pictures of flowers and fruit and write poems.


9 posted on 07/23/2012 6:44:37 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Without the Second Amendment, the other twenty-six will cease to exist.)
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To: markomalley

Swing state BTTT.


10 posted on 07/23/2012 6:49:09 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: markomalley
So, if somebody wants to build a coal plant, they can — it’s just that it will bankrupt them...
     Barack Obama, November 2, 2008

Well, shucks. We thought he was just funnin' us all. We didn't think the Messiah actually meant what he said...
     D. Lynn Shanks, President and CEO of PBS Coals Inc., July 23, 2012

11 posted on 07/23/2012 6:55:28 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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12 posted on 07/23/2012 6:57:34 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: MeganC

IIRC OB made a statement during the 2008 campaign that he would put coal companies out of business. Anyone have this quote? It was in a TV interview.


13 posted on 07/23/2012 6:59:04 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: morphing libertarian
IIRC OB made a statement during the 2008 campaign that he would put coal companies out of business.

I remember that. I just don't remember exactly when or who he said it to - maybe a speach?

14 posted on 07/23/2012 7:09:43 PM PDT by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$, A$PCA, or PETA.)
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To: SCalGal

I can’t believe OB will campaign in any coal producing state. Might show up in Philly to visit his poll security guys at the Black Panther Hdq.


15 posted on 07/23/2012 7:12:36 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: markomalley

Until landowners are given legal rights, I hope all coal companies shut down.


16 posted on 07/23/2012 7:23:01 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: markomalley

Let’s be a little fair to the EPA, (okay maybe not), but I think the natural gas prices are having an effect too.

I loved my coal stove. Wasn’t good at getting it to last all night, but hey, nobody’s perfect.


17 posted on 07/23/2012 7:30:13 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: South Hawthorne; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; baseballmom; Mo1; Ciexyz; ..

PA Ping!

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18 posted on 07/23/2012 7:31:03 PM PDT by randita (Either the politicians fix our fiscal insanity, or the markets will.)
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To: SCalGal; morphing libertarian

The quote was made on January 18th, 2008 with the San Francisco Chronicle. It wasn’t made public by the San Francisco Chronicle until November 2, 2008.

Are we surprised they would sit on it that long?

Anyone?


19 posted on 07/23/2012 7:35:21 PM PDT by rlmorel ("The safest road to Hell is the gradual one." Screwtape (C.S. Lewis))
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To: markomalley

Every company should lay off workers beginning in September. They can all ways make due with fewer workers.

The electorate needs to feel real, deep pain


20 posted on 07/23/2012 7:42:35 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: huldah1776
I agree. The real story here is that Marcellus shale gas exploration is pushing so much new natural gas on the market that the price has been plummeting.

What we're seeing here is coal getting pushed aside by a less expensive form of energy.

21 posted on 07/23/2012 7:52:02 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: rlmorel

Not many coal mines in SF. LOL!


22 posted on 07/23/2012 7:57:39 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: winkadink

Because the Unions were behind him.


23 posted on 07/23/2012 8:11:00 PM PDT by Red6
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To: markomalley

I hope the coal miners remember this when they vote.


24 posted on 07/23/2012 8:20:54 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: bray

You are right my FRiend


25 posted on 07/23/2012 8:22:22 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: markomalley

OK. Pennsylvania voters...do try to remember this on Election Day.


26 posted on 07/23/2012 8:27:00 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: markomalley

OK. Pennsylvania voters...do try to remember this on Election Day.


27 posted on 07/23/2012 8:28:12 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: markomalley
“[T]he escalating costs and uncertainty generated by recently advanced EPA regulations and interpretations have created a challenging business climate for the entire coal industry,”

As Al Jolson once said,"You ain't seen nothing yet."

28 posted on 07/23/2012 8:33:39 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: markomalley

“General Manager Ronald Koontz, a mine manager, hit the president for waging a “war on coal seeking to destroy the coal industry and the jobs of our own employees and the livelihoods of their families.”

Karma is a bit** there Ronnie. How did that vote for Obama in 2008 go for you?


29 posted on 07/23/2012 8:38:13 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Liberalism: Carrying adolescent values and behavior into adult life.)
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To: markomalley

Didn’t the Obamanator say (and I paraphrase) he would like to run the coal industry out of business?


30 posted on 07/23/2012 8:58:02 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: markomalley

Couldn’t see that one coming, now could we?

This could be a really interesting election after all.


31 posted on 07/23/2012 9:04:49 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom

I hope every one of the miners who had the nerve to vote for our anti-American president have been laid off...and not put on disability for the rest of their lives.


32 posted on 07/23/2012 9:14:07 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks markomalley.


33 posted on 07/23/2012 9:45:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
We didn't think the Messiah actually meant what he said...

...the Messiah...? Please tell me that quote was made sarcastically.

34 posted on 07/23/2012 10:09:13 PM PDT by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: markomalley

Will these unions ever learn?

Will women ever learn? Obama would be history but for their idiotic support.


35 posted on 07/23/2012 11:38:48 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama must Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: markomalley

Fracking and the resulting low prices for natural gas aren’t helping the coal industry much either.


36 posted on 07/23/2012 11:44:29 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: markomalley

bttt


37 posted on 07/24/2012 2:44:23 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: Moonman62

Some of it is that but most comes from this communist that was elected by the sheep and educated idiots that wanted a leftist idiolog. Now this is what we got. A dictator that is shredding the Constitution.


38 posted on 07/24/2012 7:11:20 AM PDT by Busko
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To: Venturer
I hope the coal miners remember this when they vote.

Everyone who has been put out of work since the rats took over in 2006, and everyone who does not want to lose his job, should remember this when they vote.

39 posted on 07/24/2012 7:12:49 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: markomalley

Good and more businesses should do the same. A friend of mine is the CEO of a business. He posted election signs on company property. The candidate is a solid conservative and pro-business against a hard-left radical incumbent who never ever bothered to visit or accept a visit from one of the largest employers in the district.

After about a week the HR manager comes in and complains about the vile politicization of work and how offensive it is. She said that others felt the same way. Their major issue was that the fiscally conservative candidate was anti-abortion.

He asked her if she knew about the incumbents attitude toward business. She didn’t and hadn’t bothered. All she knew about was being pro-choice. So he forwarded her some info on the incumbent along with info on the challenger that clearly showed the one would harm their business while the latter would help. Pro-choice won’t save your job.

That silenced her. Of course, she’s not so offended as to quit, but she’s plenty ignorant and more bosses need to educate their employees that liberals kill jobs. Come to Cook County/Obamaland and see for yourself.


40 posted on 07/24/2012 7:35:43 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: SueRae

Every election is always about the economy - your wallet, jobs, etc. When the voters take their eye off that ball you get a Carter, Clinton and Obama. Not to overlook the foibles of GOP Presidents.

It’s the economy stupid.

I recently heard a black guest on a radio show state that it was racism keeping blacks down. I suppose he’s not aware that urban blacks elect Democrats in droves and keep them in power. IL is controlled top to bottom by Democrats. Who’s to blame, though?


41 posted on 07/24/2012 7:40:41 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: morphing libertarian
IIRC OB made a statement during the 2008 campaign that he would put coal companies out of business. Anyone have this quote?

Nov 02, 2008 (clarification given to San Francisco Chronicle regarding previous Jan 2008 interview)
OBAMA: What I’ve said is that we would put a cap and trade system in place that is as aggressive, if not more aggressive, than anybody else’s out there.

I was the first to call for a 100% auction on the cap and trade system, which means that every unit of carbon or greenhouse gases emitted would be charged to the polluter. That will create a market in which whatever technologies are out there that are being presented, whatever power plants that are being built, that they would have to meet the rigors of that market and the ratcheted down caps that are being placed, imposed every year.

So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it’s just that it will bankrupt them because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted.

That will also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in solar, wind, biodiesel and other alternative energy approaches.

The only thing I’ve said with respect to coal, I haven’t been some coal booster. What I have said is that for us to take coal off the table as a (sic) ideological matter as opposed to saying if technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should pursue it.

So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can.

It’s just that it will bankrupt them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-aLcbr63ME

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wzNUZVv0A0


42 posted on 07/24/2012 11:54:20 AM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: winkadink

“Obama told us he intended to get rid of the coal companies before he was elected president. And still they voted for him.”

That is correct! He also is on record saying that his objective is to eliminate the private health insurance industry - parroting other leftists like the abysmal Jan Schakowsky and the despicable toad Barney Frank.


43 posted on 07/24/2012 1:09:50 PM PDT by astounded (Barack Obama is a clear and present danger to the USA)
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To: Stand Watch Listen

thanx


44 posted on 07/24/2012 4:13:30 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: 1010RD; markomalley

well, if there was a pro-business candidate who was pro-abortion and the opposite was an anti-business candidate who was anti-abortion, I would vote for the anti. For me the issue of baby-killing takes precedence over my job (I’ll admit, i’ve never been in the situation and what I stated is what I believe I would do)


45 posted on 07/25/2012 3:33:39 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Cronos; markomalley
Then you'd be uniquely exceptional. Most people wouldn't starve or lose their job and possessions over an unknown, unborn baby. I'd be curious if your hypothetical had ever occurred in American politics. The combination seems quite rare.

My point is that the vast majority of the electorate is consistent with God's advice in the Ten Commandments. That is they are jealous, envious, weak, etc. They worship a god of their own making. Realpolitik needs to address the economic concerns of the population.

A winning economic policy is an entre into a social policy consistent with conservative goals, although I don't think we'll ever see a full out ban on abortions. On a full belly the American people will move strongly toward the Constitution. We need to get the incentives right.

46 posted on 07/26/2012 4:46:24 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD; Cronos

” Most people wouldn’t starve or lose their job and possessions over an unknown, unborn baby.”

If you look at things on a macro level, the loss of 55+ million babies over the past 40 years has had a tremendous impact on our society.

For example:

When larger families were the norm rather than the exception, as is the case in this post Griswold, post Roe world, the care of the elderly could relatively easily be accomplished by the elderly people’s adult children. Now, rather than the expenses, both in time and in dollars, must be borne by one or two kids. That’s a whole lot different.

The cultural attitude from parents to children also has changed. Again, with fewer kids, parents are free to obsess over their one or two offspring. All of their dreams and hopes are embodied in that kid. What happens? The kid is materially spoiled and never has to share with anybody...the kid is pressured to be perfect...constant structured activity leading to obsessiveness. The kid must be a success because otherwise the parent is a failure. No second, third, our fourth chance to get it right.

And then we can look at the loss of bodies for the labor pool. We don’t have enough people, and those that we have are self serving as a norm. The result: we import aliens to do the shut work for slave wages.

While the loss of one child to abortion may not have a huge impact on society, if you look at it on the macro scale, that has done more to ruin our society than anything else. And yes, I would include, in many cases, jobs and possessions


47 posted on 07/26/2012 5:16:51 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good-Pope Leo XIII)
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To: 1010RD; Cronos

” Most people wouldn’t starve or lose their job and possessions over an unknown, unborn baby.”

If you look at things on a macro level, the loss of 55+ million babies over the past 40 years has had a tremendous impact on our society.

For example:

When larger families were the norm rather than the exception, as is the case in this post Griswold, post Roe world, the care of the elderly could relatively easily be accomplished by the elderly people’s adult children. Now, rather than the expenses, both in time and in dollars, must be borne by one or two kids. That’s a whole lot different.

The cultural attitude from parents to children also has changed. Again, with fewer kids, parents are free to obsess over their one or two offspring. All of their dreams and hopes are embodied in that kid. What happens? The kid is materially spoiled and never has to share with anybody...the kid is pressured to be perfect...constant structured activity leading to obsessiveness. The kid must be a success because otherwise the parent is a failure. No second, third, our fourth chance to get it right.

And then we can look at the loss of bodies for the labor pool. We don’t have enough people, and those that we have are self serving as a norm. The result: we import aliens to do the shut work for slave wages.

While the loss of one child to abortion may not have a huge impact on society, if you look at it on the macro scale, that has done more to ruin our society than anything else. And yes, I would include, in many cases, jobs and possessions


48 posted on 07/26/2012 5:17:07 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good-Pope Leo XIII)
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To: 1010RD
well, I don't know of this ever occuring

I'd like to believe I'd sacrifice all of that for my moral stand against baby-killing, but I've not been put in that position to say that "that's what I did".

49 posted on 07/26/2012 6:09:43 AM PDT by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: markomalley; Cronos

Good analysis and we agree. We’re on the same team as regards abortion. My only point is the shortsightedness and low self-esteem of the average voter limits the ability of conservative candidates to win on socially conservative issues alone. We’re too easily painted as extreme and our ideas marginalized.

On the other-hand imagine if the three of us ran on a pro-growth, pro-jobs platform. That could be a winning ticket even in many Dem areas. Now we implement our policies and get growth going again along with jobs.

The voter, seeing the pocketbook issue being addressed, is now grateful. Over time we would then be able to implement socially conservative initiatives over time. Those same initiatives would improve pocketbook issues by reforming welfare, strengthening families and reducing out of wedlock births. This would all act to keep conservatives in power for generations.

We tend to be too all or nothing. I live in a heavily Democratic area. I work hard to get a little bit each time using moral suasion and publicity to move the conservative agenda forward. I never get everything, but in bits and pieces I’ve succeeded greatly.

As for abortion I don’t believe that God would allow those innocents to suffer the crimes of their parents. So despite my disgust for abortion, I believe that long term we can only hope to ban late term abortions and reduce the number by implementing adoption reforms. People throughout history have always had abortions. That’s not a rationalization for an evil, just the reality of this world. Remember that the god of this world is the Devil.


50 posted on 07/26/2012 7:15:34 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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