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Worker on nuclear sub set fire so he could leave early, Navy says
AP/WaPo ^ | 7/23/2012

Posted on 07/23/2012 7:22:47 PM PDT by markomalley

A civilian laborer set a fire that caused $400 million in damage to a nuclear-powered submarine because he had anxiety and wanted to get out of work early, Navy investigators said Monday.

Casey James Fury, 24, of Portsmouth, N.H., faces up to life in prison if convicted of two counts of arson in the fire aboard the USS Miami attack submarine while it was in dry dock May 23 and a second blaze outside the sub on June 16.

Fury was taking medications for anxiety and depression and told investigators he set the fires so he could get out of work, according a seven-page affidavit filed Monday in U.S. District Court in Portland.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: submarine
WTH?????

Taking meds and allowed to work (presumably unescorted) on a nuke sub???

Things have REALLY changed since I was on PRP many years ago.

1 posted on 07/23/2012 7:22:50 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

he could have hit his thumb with a hammer or something


2 posted on 07/23/2012 7:25:10 PM PDT by molson209
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To: markomalley

I guess the Navy is just letting anybody and everybody aboard its submarines these days...


3 posted on 07/23/2012 7:27:45 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: markomalley

Why life in prison?

Make him pay back the $400 million damage, that you and I paid.


4 posted on 07/23/2012 7:29:38 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Yea, and don’t let him go home early until he pays it all back!


5 posted on 07/23/2012 7:33:44 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: markomalley

I am going to make a guess, union.


6 posted on 07/23/2012 7:35:03 PM PDT by depressed in 06 (6 November, 2012, the day our embarrassment is sent back to Kenya.)
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To: depressed in 06

I am going to take a guess, Obama Voter.


7 posted on 07/23/2012 7:39:23 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Confucius say, short note better than long memory....)
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To: Doohickey; SmithL

Tell the truth I don’t know what to think....{{{ping}}}


8 posted on 07/23/2012 7:41:15 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Hold.....hold......hold.......)
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To: Sir Napsalot

With interest!

Wow.


9 posted on 07/23/2012 7:42:12 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: markomalley

Thanks to commies in congress, no discrimination against the crazy (now known as ‘mentally ill’) is allowed.

Gotta hire the drugged nutters, the retards, and all the detritus on two feet. Otherwise you are DISCRIMINATING and subject to cruel and unusual punishments.

America is fortunate that such ‘people with disabilities’ haven’t caused a reactor meltdown or a refinery fire.


10 posted on 07/23/2012 7:44:13 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: markomalley

No PRP without nuke weapons. Prolly NAC Confidential all that is required for a “laborer.”


11 posted on 07/23/2012 7:47:31 PM PDT by j_tull (Massachusetts once lead the American Revolution. Under Mitt Romney, it lead the demise.)
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To: markomalley

Ruh Roh!


12 posted on 07/23/2012 7:47:35 PM PDT by Wisconsinlady ("When injustice becomes law, then resistance becomes duty." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: markomalley

Keelhaul the bastard! If he lives through it bread and water for life along with turning boulders into pebbles with a sledge hammer!


13 posted on 07/23/2012 7:47:41 PM PDT by TsonicTsunami08
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To: GladesGuru
Thanks to commies in congress, no discrimination against the crazy (now known as ‘mentally ill’) is allowed.

Any more the contractor was probably forced to hire some of them in order to even be allowed to bid on the work.

14 posted on 07/23/2012 7:48:42 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: markomalley

So did they let him out early?


15 posted on 07/23/2012 7:50:43 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: markomalley

Union scumbag slacker. See how life in prison suits the sob


16 posted on 07/23/2012 7:52:40 PM PDT by Figment
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To: markomalley

PRP ?

Heck it has went from HRP to PRP to PAP an back full circle to HRP again !

Keel haul this arsonist is my suggestion.


17 posted on 07/23/2012 7:53:13 PM PDT by Squantos
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To: markomalley

He only thinks he’s experienced anxiety. Wait until he becomes someone’s prison b!tch.


18 posted on 07/23/2012 8:01:46 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: markomalley

I don’t buy his excuse of wanting to get out of work early... Not one bit. I don’t think his meds have anything to do with this, unless he WASN’T taking them at the time, frankly. If you want to get out of work early, you fake an illness, or you just LEAVE. Having a known medical condition would have made that EASY, IMO. Setting a fire in a sub points to something much more serious than “laziness”. I’d be checking into ALL of the guys’ connections, his political leanings, etc... Which union does this guy belong to, BTW? (I’m assuming this was a union guy...)


19 posted on 07/23/2012 8:03:47 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: j_tull
No PRP without nuke weapons. Prolly NAC Confidential all that is required for a “laborer.”

In the AF (back in the day), you had to be on PRP to have access to alert facilities...even if planes weren't permanently there.

20 posted on 07/23/2012 8:06:52 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good-Pope Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

Why would civilians be allowed to work on a nuclear sub? That should be reserved for service members.


21 posted on 07/23/2012 8:08:18 PM PDT by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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To: markomalley

This is another example of how you really can’t tell who the crazies are.
They mostly look just like normal people until they do something like this.

Oh, some people you can tell, but they are usually at an extreme (a guy at Vons the other day was singing and rocking back and forth, until someone he was with came back for him. It was a happy song!).


22 posted on 07/23/2012 8:09:09 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: markomalley

Since technically we are at war in Afghanistan, sabotage during wartime should warrant a one-way trip to the firing squad.


23 posted on 07/23/2012 8:10:43 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: markomalley

The boat was in the drydock at a Naval Shipyard. The guy was a shipyard worker. I saw a lot of “medicated” yardbirds at PSNSY in the ‘80’s.


24 posted on 07/23/2012 8:12:28 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: markomalley

How does a civilian contractor employee on meds for Anxiety and Depression get a security clearance to work on nuclear submarine construction?


25 posted on 07/23/2012 8:13:30 PM PDT by Rebelbase (The most transparent administration ever is clear as mud.)
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To: LukeL

“Why would civilians be allowed to work on a nuclear sub?”

Depends on what his job was. Sometimes the military contracts with civvies who have certain skills. I have worked on several bases side by side with soldiers.

Sometimes it’s just the opposite- janitorial work or basic maintenance can be contracted out.

I worked at a place at Aberdeen Proving Ground, they had me there for “awesome skillz”, and there were two contract janitors, some lieutenants, sergeants, a captain, sometimes a light colonel. Security was 19 yo kids with M16’s and A4’s with M203’s mounted underneath. I called everybody “sir”, it was easier.


26 posted on 07/23/2012 8:17:28 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: LukeL

>>Why would civilians be allowed to work on a nuclear sub? That should be reserved for service members.

As a former submariner, no thanks! Sub crews are trained to operate the boat and do light maintenance. We did not want to do the heavy work that requires a shipyard and the army of yard workers. We take pride in our “elite of the fleet” label!

Occaisionally, this is a problem. We had an improperly-installed seawater fitting blow off at test depth once, but the emergency blow system worked perfectly. So, all ended well (obviously).


27 posted on 07/23/2012 8:18:08 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: GladesGuru

So, do you think our Military Vets coming back and suffering from PTSD, Anxiety and Depression are all crazy, too? Should we pack them all up and throw them into institutions if they need meds?

You’d better watch what you say because narcissism is a “mental illness”/personality disorder and your attitude of being holier than thou is a red flag in that area. Are you sure YOU aren’t the one with serious problems?

God forbid you ever suffer a tragedy in your life such as the kinds which break a person down to the point that need to seek help. It’ll be very hard for you to get over it because you’ll be so afraid of other people like you out there judging you all the time, and thinking you’re crazy.

Before you say that’ll never happen to you... please don’t say it. Everyone I’ve known that has made an idiotic comment like that eventually ends up learning the hard way, and I truly wouldn’t wish these mental illnesses on even my worst enemy.


28 posted on 07/23/2012 8:18:46 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: LukeL
"Why would civilians be allowed to work on a nuclear sub?"

My guess is the Navy would like it to function well enough to at least make it to deep water. Without civilians it won't clear the pier.

29 posted on 07/23/2012 8:21:41 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: GladesGuru

Oh, and BTW, your attitude on “retards” and other “detritus on two feet” is the SAME sickening attitude that helped Hitler get rid of all those “retards”, and old people, and supposedly “nutters”, too. It’s the same argument liberals use for sanctioning abortion, too (y’know all those babies with Down Syndrome that don’t deserve to live because they’re “retards”).


30 posted on 07/23/2012 8:24:48 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: markomalley

Seems like the submarine should be designed to make it impossible for a fire to cause $400 million damage, even it it was in dry dock.


31 posted on 07/23/2012 8:25:45 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: Rebelbase

You can be easily on meds for anxiety and depression and have a Secret clearance (will likely prevent a quick “temporary” clearance but once a statement is received from a doctor/therapist, the final clearance isn’t a problem.) And it certainly doesn’t automatically exclude one from having a TS clearance.

Keep in mind there are 3 million people with security clearances in the US; you couldn’t possibly exclude everyone that a casual observer would think would be excluded from getting a clearance, or there wouldn’t be anyone left to have them.

And this guy was basically at or close to the lowest of the low level in terms of limited-skill shipyard labor (sandblaster/painter.) We couldn’t possibly afford to have a military if everyone who ever set foot on a naval vessel had to have a full background investigation with interview and polygraph.


32 posted on 07/23/2012 8:26:30 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: markomalley

Next thing you know they’re going to be letting political supporters pilot nuclear subs into Japanese boats to kill young people. (HINT: Google “USS Greenville”)


33 posted on 07/23/2012 8:32:17 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: GladesGuru

Or set off a nuke somewhere...
Safeguards can be “negated” after all...

Sure is a “different world” than during the late ‘60’s when we had the most POWERFUL military the PLANET has ever SEEN!!


34 posted on 07/23/2012 8:41:11 PM PDT by Rca2000 ( NEVER underestimate the power of "one little election", in WI.....)
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To: markomalley

$400 million for damage to a sub? For $400M it must be the super secret gold plated, boom boom boomer with all bells and whisltes destroyed. That highly classified program is so secret we can't even tell you about it, except when we send the bill. Lol, i think the navy is engaging in some insurance fraud...

Naw, they wouldn't do that would they?

35 posted on 07/23/2012 8:46:27 PM PDT by OldCorps
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To: Rca2000

We still have the most powerful military the planet has ever seen, and the gap between us and the rest of the world in terms of military power is larger than for any other country in the history of Earth, including the Romans, etc.


36 posted on 07/23/2012 8:47:47 PM PDT by Strategerist
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37 posted on 07/23/2012 8:49:56 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: All

my wife had to deal with those union humps in that yard a few years ago and this doesn’t surprise her one bit.
Why they allow unions in these places anymore is something that needs to be addressed.


38 posted on 07/23/2012 8:54:35 PM PDT by newnhdad (Where will you be during the Election Riots of 2012/2013?)
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To: Strategerist

If we can just keep it. But..if O has his way......


39 posted on 07/23/2012 8:54:56 PM PDT by Rca2000 ( NEVER underestimate the power of "one little election", in WI.....)
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To: markomalley

This guy singlehandedly tool the USS Miami out of commission.

It is now just a parts sub.


40 posted on 07/23/2012 8:57:08 PM PDT by exit82 (Pass the word: Obama is a FAILURE!! Democrats are the enemies of freedom!)
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To: exit82

“tool” = “took” in post # 40


41 posted on 07/23/2012 8:58:07 PM PDT by exit82 (Pass the word: Obama is a FAILURE!! Democrats are the enemies of freedom!)
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To: exit82

It’s going to be repaired.


42 posted on 07/23/2012 9:02:31 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

Oh, I heard they said they were not going to repair it initially—costs too much and it is not a new sub.


43 posted on 07/23/2012 9:05:17 PM PDT by exit82 (Pass the word: Obama is a FAILURE!! Democrats are the enemies of freedom!)
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To: exit82

It’s amazing that we live in a world where a single person can make such a colossal screw-up. A trader blows five billion dollars, a guy almost wipes out a French bank, a captain grounds a billion dollar ship, a single person does 1/2 billion of damage to a sub, etc.

I’ve worked for companies where it took the combined efforts of dozens of managers over years to screw up at those levels - but we’ve become much more efficient since then :)


44 posted on 07/23/2012 9:32:33 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: The Antiyuppie
It’s amazing that we live in a world where a single person can make such a colossal screw-up. A trader blows five billion dollars, a guy almost wipes out a French bank, a captain grounds a billion dollar ship, a single person does 1/2 billion of damage to a sub, etc. I’ve worked for companies where it took the combined efforts of dozens of managers over years to screw up at those levels - but we’ve become much more efficient since then :)

Actually that was a thought provoking thought.It doesn't take much to create huge damage today, does it?

45 posted on 07/23/2012 10:10:46 PM PDT by exit82 (Pass the word: Obama is a FAILURE!! Democrats are the enemies of freedom!)
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To: LibertyRocks

I did work for Social Dynamics, 335 Newbury St, Mass. when they were under contact to review the state proposals for programs for the retarded, so I am somewhat familiar with issues regarding care for the retarded, Oopsie - make that “Developmentally Challenged”).

Have you considered that nearly all such conditions now have ‘constituencies’? Allowing government to do “charity” 9using the word as the Founders so did) is both a violation of the Constitution and has boosted the cost of care for such people and their families?

That caring, compassionate government trough feeder delivers “help” at some four times the cost of non-governmental charities?

As for my having a “narcissim complex”, do I post like a Libtard, and am I a HalfRican lke Obama? Didn’t think so!

But, you are totally correct about the Trough Feeders drooling far more than they normally do whenever the concept of “Thought Crime” comes up for discussion.

PS According to the wet dreams of the Trough Feeders, being a FReeper is proof positive of clear and unambiguous need for their “intervention”.

PPS I merely said that those who are less than stable must not be allowed in sensitive areas where their abnormality could cause immense damage. That sub fire is proof of the accuracy of my position. There are many areas in society where our fellow Americans can find productive work without endangering others either physically or financially.

To close on a positive note, genetic advances hopefully will prevent the many genetic damage caused “diseases”.


46 posted on 07/24/2012 6:15:45 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: wideminded

then open your mind REALLY wide and design one for us.


47 posted on 07/24/2012 10:28:53 AM PDT by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: GladesGuru

You can back-track all you want, but your original post without bringing in all the government “trough feeders” argument, and “charity” arguments paints a much different picture of your views on the subject. Your first post was quite candid, and your second post brings in subjects that have nothing to do with your original statements.

Also, I’m unsure of where in my post I supposedly mentioned “trough feeders” drooling at “thought crimes” - thus, what are you proposing that you agree with me about? I don’t believe I said any such thing. Where did I mention “trough feeders” ANYWHERE in my post to you? Where did I mention “welfare” of any sort? It’s the attitude you displayed in your post, the total disregard for people with very real conditions, not to mention your delivery.

As for genetic advances in medicine being able to fix “genetic damage” caused “diseases” - that’s just a drawn out way to talk about Eugenics without mentioning that word. Many problems such as depression, anxiety, and PTSD are NOT genetic conditions, and are a direct result of environmental pressures.

Basically, I don’t think there’s anything you can say that will detract from your original statements about “drugged nutters”, “retards” and “all the other detritus on two feet”. It makes your POV pretty damn obvious - bringing in other arguments, and your apparent “experience” working with “retards” and government programs doesn’t make what you said any less ignorant, and despicable, IMHO.

Incidentally, I agree with the FACT that not everyone is a good candidate for all jobs. The whole idea of “equality” for everyone is a joke. Someone with a low-IQ can’t possibly be a rocket scientist, for instance. A woman who wishes to be a firefighter should be required to pass EXACTLY the same tests as the fellow male applicants with no “special considerations” as the people counting on you are depending upon your ability to do your job effectively. If you’re working on a nuclear sub I’d understand the requirements to be much more strict than if you’re painting a truck, for instance. THAT I understand, but that’s NOT what you said, nor how you said it.


48 posted on 07/24/2012 5:27:38 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: Strategerist

Thank you for injecting some common sense into this thread. Just because someone is taking medication for depression, or anxiety does not mean they are “drugged nutters”. I appreciate your enlightening folks on this topic in regards to security clearances, etc... With all of the returning service members who are having a hard time dealing with PTSD, Depression and Anxiety and need meds to help them re-adjust you’d think people would be more educated about the true causes, and results of said conditions. It’s sad that they are not.


49 posted on 07/24/2012 3:55:12 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: LibertyRocks

There was no “back tracking” in what I wrote, though you seem to see it. I seem to have offended your sense of “PS SPEEK” by using “Retard” and “drugged nutter”. Are you arare the Constitution really does not protect you if you want to feel “offended”?

As for the misfortune of those whom potluck in the meiotic dance was less than desired, I am the observer, not the source.

Nothing in your apparently angry responses directly addresses the issuer I raised - why was a “person with mental challenges” on pharmaceuticals as well - WHY was that person allowed on a nuclear sub?

Citizens who will pay the $400,000,000 bill for that act of political correctness want to know.


50 posted on 07/24/2012 4:06:25 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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