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Sarah Palin endorses Rep. Jeff Flake over tea partier in AZ Senate
ABC News ^ | July 23, 2012 | Rachel Rose Hartman

Posted on 07/24/2012 4:18:10 AM PDT by Olog-hai

Bucking her tea party predilection yet again this cycle, Sarah Palin on Monday endorsed Republican Rep. Jeff Flake over Wil Cardon in the Arizona Senate primary. …

Palin earlier this year rankled tea partiers when she chose to back sitting Utah Sen. Orrin Hatch over tea party challenger former state Sen. Dan Liljenquist. Hatch easily bested Liljenquist in the June 26 primary. …

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; flake; jeffflake; palin; sarahpalin; teaparty
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1 posted on 07/24/2012 4:18:22 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Jeff Flake has a 96.73 lifetime rating from ACU; 98 from Hertiage foundation. Flake is no RINO.


2 posted on 07/24/2012 4:29:38 AM PDT by Perdogg (Let's leave reading things in the Constitution that aren't there to liberals and Dems)
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To: Perdogg

He also voted against military patrolling the border with Mexico. He also sided with Democrats on a few healthcare issues IINM.


3 posted on 07/24/2012 4:35:31 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Perdogg

The ACU rating doesn’t always tell the whole story. Flake isn’t reliable on the illegals/border issue.


4 posted on 07/24/2012 4:38:44 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: Olog-hai
Actually he was honored by ACU for having a perfect score. I am not sure what you talking about here is the scorecard and the votes.
5 posted on 07/24/2012 4:44:11 AM PDT by Perdogg (Let's leave reading things in the Constitution that aren't there to liberals and Dems)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
I saw that here. NORML rated him a +20. He also doesn’t want OPEC criminalized; we should have smashed that Nazi cartel in the 70s. He likes the idea of solar energy programs on federal lands.
6 posted on 07/24/2012 4:57:15 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Unless our military is going to patrol the border on Mexican territory, I think it would be illegal.


7 posted on 07/24/2012 5:00:13 AM PDT by Rearden (Deo Vindices)
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To: Perdogg

Don’t like Flake, but thevother guy has no shot of winning a safe seat. Sarah is right; hold what you have to, pick up OH, WI, VA, FL, NE, ND, WY.


8 posted on 07/24/2012 5:07:47 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: Olog-hai

Flake has been good on most fiscal issues, but is about as bad as McShame on border issues. I don’t trust him.


9 posted on 07/24/2012 5:11:58 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Rearden

It would be illegal as per the constitution, but to some so called conservatives, the constitution can be ignored (a la Obama) to serve their view point at any given time.


10 posted on 07/24/2012 5:22:22 AM PDT by Sea Parrot (Don't ever think that the reason I am peaceful is because I forgot how to be violent)
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To: SharpRightTurn

Looks like Sarah made a good call—keep what you can and look to the Big Picture.


11 posted on 07/24/2012 5:39:05 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Olog-hai

Add to that, which may seem minor to some, but he lied about his promise on keeping a term limits pledge as well.


12 posted on 07/24/2012 5:40:05 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: Olog-hai

It seems that she also studies the possibility of the candidate winning. I believe that if she thinks the Tea Party candidate will win then she certainly is going to endorse that person but if they they don’t have a chance, she won’t.


13 posted on 07/24/2012 5:40:20 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: SharpRightTurn

Given that the border has a severe impact on fiscal issues, that would tend to negate any alleged positive points on it.


14 posted on 07/24/2012 5:42:14 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: LS

I haven’t endorsed “the other guy”, but to say Will Cardon has no shot is ludicrous. Cardon has $7.1 million in his campaign coffers (Flake has only $4.9 million). Dubya’s ex-Surgeon General, whom the Democrats recruited, Carmona, is barely in it at all, and has a paltry $1.4 million (which is the kind of money needed to run a competitive House race, not a Senate one). Cardon wouldn’t have much trouble in a general election with the money advantage alone.


15 posted on 07/24/2012 5:48:56 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: LS

If interested, Bill O’Reilly poll:
Who do you favor as Mitt Romney’s running mate?
Condoleezza Rice
Sen. Marco Rubio
Rep. Paul Ryan
Sarah Palin


16 posted on 07/24/2012 5:52:25 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: fieldmarshaldj

When you have BOTH sitting AZ senator and Palin endorse Flake, I don’t think the other guy has much of a chance. I’m a native Arizonian, still have family there, and Flake is known. Cardon isn’t.


17 posted on 07/24/2012 5:53:46 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: FES0844

I don’t see “Dump Willard” in the poll.


18 posted on 07/24/2012 5:54:38 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: LS

Businessmen can buy recognition. Look at Wisconsin with Ron Johnson.


19 posted on 07/24/2012 6:04:44 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: Olog-hai

Jeff Flake is the politician who ridiculed people recently for wanting to investigate Obama’s birth certificate in Arizona. He mocked them after he said firstly he would preserve and defend the Constitution. Now, back on February 27, 2011 of last year Flake said that birthers should “accept the reality” and acknowledge the fact that President Obama was born in the US.

“Barack Obama is a citizen of the country,” Flake said in an interview with CNN on Thursday.

When asked about a recent poll that showed a majority of Republican primary voters believe President Obama was born outside the country, Flake said he didn’t trust the results.

“Well, I have a hard time believing that poll,” Flake said. “I think that most people understand and accept the reality. The reality is that, yes, he was born in the United States.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/02/17/jeff-flake-to-birthers-get-real/#ixzz21XD9ADap

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/02/17/jeff-flake-to-birthers-get-real/#ixzz21XCeIfAe

Watch the video of him taken by a hidden cam recently:
http://www.westernjournalism.com/exclusive-video-republican-congressman-supports-obama-regarding-his-eligibility/


20 posted on 07/24/2012 6:39:32 AM PDT by Fred Garvin-MP
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To: SharpRightTurn

“Flake has been good on most fiscal issues, but is about as bad as McShame on border issues. I don’t trust him.”

I don’t know Flake well, but why is McCain supporting his opponent, if Flake is the Open-Borders person?


21 posted on 07/24/2012 6:50:02 AM PDT by BobL
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To: SharpRightTurn

Sorry - makes more sense now. I misread the article.

It seems that Sarah still has a weak spot for border issues...


22 posted on 07/24/2012 6:52:09 AM PDT by BobL
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Cardon is basically funding himself. That 7.1 million is mostly his own money. Flake is not rich but his campaign money is from donors. Cardon is an unknown quantity. He has NO voting record and I am afraid he is a Dem in Repub clothing. Remember how Obama fooled the majority of voters in 2008?


23 posted on 07/24/2012 6:55:47 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: Olog-hai; Rearden

Clinton sent the Marines down to patrol the border and they shot/killed a Mexican-American teenage boy who was minding goats and plinking with a 22 rifle.


24 posted on 07/24/2012 6:56:55 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: originalbuckeye

One reason I haven’t endorsed Cardon is that I don’t know enough about him... but Flake to me is repugnant, he’s only one step above the scumbag Mack of Florida, who called Arizona “Nazi Germany” for daring to enforce the borders. This RINO scum has no business holding office, period. They’re no different than the degenerate race-baiting, America-haters that is so typical of the Democrat party today.


25 posted on 07/24/2012 7:01:12 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: Perdogg
Jeff Flake has a 96.73 lifetime rating from ACU

The ACU elected a Muslim with CAIR/Hamas ties to its board, at the insistence of Grover Norquist (also on its board) whose hands are most unclean with radical Muslim alliances.

26 posted on 07/24/2012 7:01:22 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Olog-hai

Wil Cardon is NOT a “tea party candidate”. He is just another Mormon multi-millionasire who would be totally unreliable on immigration if elected - just like Flake. the problem is the LDS Church, which has adopted illegal alien amnesty as a new core value. BTW, this “endorsement” is meaningless, Flake would already have won by 20 pts.


27 posted on 07/24/2012 7:03:49 AM PDT by montag813
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

“Looks like Sarah made a good call—keep what you can and look to the Big Picture.”

I don’t know if it is a good call or not, since I haven’t kept up with this race much and don’t know that much about Cardon. My understanding is, however, that Cardon has hit Flake on immigration issues and in my opinion is doing all of us a service in doing so. May the more conservative candidate, whoever he is, prevail.

As to Palin, I think she obviously made a good call with Mourdock over Lugar but don’t think her choice of Hatch over Liljenquist was a good call. No doubt Hatch has not been the persistant fly in the ointment that Lugar was, and Liljenquist was not the candidate that Mourdock was, but undeniably Hatch is another entrenched Club member who is more of the problem than the solution.

“Keep what you can and look to the Big Picture.” I don’t know what that means exactly. If it means that we should go with the incumbent or less conservative alternative if that is the only way you can win, I would have thought that a Republican challenger in Utah would be as safe as a Republican challenger in Missouri, yet Palin backed the challenger in Missouri and the entrenched incumbent in Utah. Looks like Republicans could have “kept what you can” in Utah with Liljenquist. I would think that would be the case in Arizona, too, though I don’t know anything about the Dim challenger in AZ this year.


28 posted on 07/24/2012 7:37:56 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

“Given that the border has a severe impact on fiscal issues, that would tend to negate any alleged positive points on it.”

Good point. I agree.


29 posted on 07/24/2012 7:39:11 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Sea Parrot; Rearden

How is it unconstitutional? The purpose of the armed forces is to protect the country. Defending the border against and invading army (in uniform or not) is still a valid armed forces duty.


30 posted on 07/24/2012 7:41:31 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: Fred Garvin-MP

“Jeff Flake is the politician who ridiculed people recently for wanting to investigate Obama’s birth certificate in Arizona. He mocked them after he said firstly he would preserve and defend the Constitution.”

Also, when Rubio recently was pushing his version of the Nightmare Act, Flake was quoted as favoring allowing illegal children who grew up here to stay—amnesty.

I would only back Flake on this if all of the illegal youths move into his house and he is financially responsible for them. I haven’t heard him offer to house and provide for them though.


31 posted on 07/24/2012 7:43:14 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: SharpRightTurn

It would be interesting to see what the unemployment rate would be nationally if illegals were promptly driven back to their home countries (and to the moron politicians that claim we can’t deport them all — we don’t have to. You make the environment hostile to invaders and most will leave by their own accord).

It’s appalling just how many serious problems in this country could be resolved quickly if only the politicians (and liberal activist judges — including the phony Roberts) stopped trying to impede their being fixed (and that’s both parties).


32 posted on 07/24/2012 7:44:41 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

“It would be interesting to see what the unemployment rate would be nationally if illegals were promptly driven back to their home countries (and to the moron politicians that claim we can’t deport them all — we don’t have to. You make the environment hostile to invaders and most will leave by their own accord).”

Absolutely. The availability of jobs in this country is the worst since the Great Depression and the politicians steadfastly refuse to make a connection between that and mass importation of foreign workers. That in and of itself is sufficient reason to oppose any candidate, R or D, who refuses to get serious about immigration.

“It’s appalling just how many serious problems in this country could be resolved quickly if only the politicians (and liberal activist judges — including the phony Roberts) stopped trying to impede their being fixed (and that’s both parties).”

Yep. Crowded schools where you have to teach multiple languages, bankrupted hospitals where the ERs had to treat illegals for nothing, prisons with upwards of 30-35% Hispanic immigrants, illegals driving while intoxicated with relative impunity . . . . And you are right, the Republicans are barely (if any) better on this issue than Dims.


33 posted on 07/24/2012 7:52:49 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Olog-hai; Perdogg
He also voted against military patrolling the border with Mexico. He also sided with Democrats on a few healthcare issues IINM.

He's also a flaming Open-Borders creep as well.
34 posted on 07/24/2012 8:26:21 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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To: Clintonfatigued; Impy; AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; no dems; Kaslin; perfect_rovian_storm; ...

This should give some assurance to the Tea Party people that Flake is worthy of their support.

What I see Palin doing this cycle is getting out there early to endorse the best candidate who can win, so hopefully that will head off any Tea Party challenger who may not hold up well in the general election.


35 posted on 07/24/2012 8:34:29 AM PDT by randita (Either the politicians fix our fiscal insanity, or the markets will.)
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To: randita

Keep reading. Flake is bad news. Almost as bad as Mack in FL.


36 posted on 07/24/2012 8:59:42 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: Olog-hai

Uh oh! I can’t wait for the “backstabber Palin” posts. /s


37 posted on 07/24/2012 9:12:25 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Pontius Pilate 'voters' are arrogant, delusional, lilly-livered collaborators.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Flake is pro-life 100 from NRTL and 0 from NARAL.


38 posted on 07/24/2012 11:18:30 AM PDT by Perdogg (Let's leave reading things in the Constitution that aren't there to liberals and Dems)
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To: Olog-hai

Sarah Palin is still running for President. She is the only one in the Republican Party who actually studied Reagan’s methods and is following them as closely as she can. That means that her final sprint will come after the kenyan’s second or, less likely, after Romney’s one term. Reagan slogged through several cycles building support in the Party as well as in the population. He took a lot of IOUs over time from all parts of the Party short of the Leftest part. Other than Reagan and seemingly, Palin, Conservatives never figured that out. Rockefeller Republicans do it as a matter of course, each in his turn. If Mr. Gingrich had done that from the time he left Congress he would be the Nominee this time. In an equal matchup between him and Romney with both having gathered the requisite political support over a period of years, Newt would have gotten the nod over the Massachustts Liberal in an easy walk. Palin was snatched into the center of the game prematurely by McCain and has held off the Run until she has built her base as Reagan did.


39 posted on 07/24/2012 12:33:21 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson)
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To: Ratman83

Oh I don’t know, maybe that silly little Posse Comitaus Act thingy expressly forbids it.

“The Posse Comitatus Act
Section 1385 of Title 18, United States Code (USC), states:

“Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.”

The PCA does not apply to the U.S. Coast Guard in peacetime or to the National Guard in Title 32 or State Active Duty status. The substantive prohibitions of the Posse Comitatus Act (PCA) were extended to all the services with the enactment of Title 10 USC, Section 375. As required by Title 10 USC, Section 375 the secretary of defense issued Department of Defense Directive 5525.5, which precludes members of the Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marine Corps from direct participation in a search, seizure, arrest, or other similar activity unless participation in such activity by such member is otherwise authorized by law.

The PCA generally prohibits U.S. military personnel from direct participation in law enforcement activities. Some of those law enforcement activities would include interdicting vehicles, vessels, and aircraft; conducting surveillance, searches, pursuit and seizures; or making arrests on behalf of civilian law enforcement authorities. Prohibiting direct military involvement in law enforcement is in keeping with long-standing U.S. law and policy limiting the military’s role in domestic affairs.”


40 posted on 07/24/2012 1:17:25 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Don't ever think that the reason I am peaceful is because I forgot how to be violent)
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To: Sea Parrot
First the PCA is a law not the constitution so while it may be unlawful the PCA does not make it unconstitutional.

Secondly patrolling the border and repelling invaders is an act of the defense of of our Nation. It is not a law enforcement action such as interdicting vehicles, vessels, and aircraft; conducting surveillance, searches, pursuit and seizures; or making arrests on behalf of civilian law enforcement authorities. Thirdly the Congress could specifically the Armed Forces to do this also.

Once again Unlawful is not Unconstitutional and your comment was that it was Unconstitutional.

41 posted on 07/24/2012 1:48:08 PM PDT by Ratman83
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To: Ratman83

It seems to me the key to using the armed forces is that Congress has authority whether or not this is to be done. I don’t see much support in Congress for such. Congresspersons have other priorities than keeping the USA in accord with the Founders intent i.e. getting campaign funds from Mexican and Muslim contributors.


42 posted on 07/24/2012 3:16:49 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: FES0844

Link?


43 posted on 07/24/2012 5:20:46 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they were.)
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To: Ratman83

As the act very plainly states, if it is not authorized by the constitution, (and it is not) it is unconstitutional.

June 18, 1878

CHAP. 263 - An act making appropriations for the support of the Army for the fiscal year ending June thirtieth, eighteen hundred and seventy-nine, and for other purposes.

SEC. 15. From and after the passage of this act it shall not be lawful to employ any part of the Army of the United States, as a posse comitatus, or otherwise, for the purpose of executing the laws, “except in such cases and under such circumstances as such employment of said force may be expressly authorized by the Constitution or by act of Congress;”


44 posted on 07/24/2012 5:31:59 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Don't ever think that the reason I am peaceful is because I forgot how to be violent)
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To: Sea Parrot

With all due respect, you’re contradicting yourself. An act of Congress is not an amendment of the Constitution. It’s not unconstitutional, therefore, but requires such an act as Mr. Flake voted against.


45 posted on 07/24/2012 4:26:26 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Perdogg

Pro-life is great, weak on borders is a non-starter.


46 posted on 07/24/2012 11:06:08 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Perdogg; AuH2ORepublican; randita

Is Cardon up to the task of second tier but viable rat Bitchard Carmona?


47 posted on 07/25/2012 12:02:32 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: LS

You mean MT, we already have WY. ;)


48 posted on 07/25/2012 12:04:28 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Perdogg; AuH2ORepublican; randita; GOPsterinMA; LS; BillyBoy; Clintonfatigued

NM, I saw your post on Cardon’s sizable kitty. But I don’t know it seems like a risk.

And Flake may have a flake or 2 on his record him but some random guy could turn out to be anything. I hate having nothing to go on but a guy’s word.


49 posted on 07/25/2012 12:07:35 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Perdogg; AuH2ORepublican; randita; GOPsterinMA; LS; BillyBoy; Clintonfatigued

NM, I saw your post on Cardon’s sizable kitty. But I don’t know it seems like a risk.

And Flake may have a flake or 2 on his record him but some random guy could turn out to be anything. I hate having nothing to go on but a guy’s word.


50 posted on 07/25/2012 12:07:35 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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