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The Milk Wars: Should Milk Be Taken Off the School-Lunch Menu?
Time.com ^ | July 20, 2012 | Alexandra Sifferlin

Posted on 07/24/2012 6:40:50 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

(Updated) The war on milk has shifted fronts. First it was sugar-laden chocolate milk, which parents and school administrators battled in recent years to remove from school-lunch menus. Now, it’s plain old moo that’s under fire.

On Thursday, a national doctors group petitioned the U.S. government to remove milk as a required food group from the National School Lunch Program, the federally assisted program that has provided lunch to millions of public school kids since 1946. The doctors’ reasoning: milk doesn’t help protect kids’ bones.

The promotion of milk to help build strong bones in kids is, “in effect, the promotion of an ineffective placebo,” writes the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM) in its petition [PDF]. “Milk is high in sugar, high in fat and high in animal protein” — all of which counters its purported benefits to bone health, the committee argues.

The PCRM notes that dairy products, including milk, are the No. 1 source of saturated fat in Americans’ diets. Drinking milk for the calcium it contains is therefore a losing strategy, especially since people can get their daily recommended calcium from other, more nutritious foods. And for millions of Americans who are allergic to milk — including 1.3 million children — or intolerant to the lactose it contains, drinking milk carries potentially severe health risks.

“One of the only reasons people talk about dairy, or promote it at all, is because it is going to help build strong bones,” says Dr. Neal Barnard, president of the PCRM. “Research has now made it abundantly clear that milk doesn’t build strong bones. Whether we are talking about children who are forming bones or older people who are trying to keep their bone integrity, milk doesn’t have a beneficial effect on either one.”

(Excerpt) Read more at healthland.time.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bones; bullystate; calcium; children; foodnazis; foodpolice; health; milk; nannystate; nutrition; pcrm; publicschools; vegans; waronfood
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1 posted on 07/24/2012 6:41:05 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Eric Blair 2084; SheLion; Gabz; Hank Kerchief; 383rr; libertarian27; traviskicks; bamahead; CSM; ...

Nanny State PING!


2 posted on 07/24/2012 6:42:24 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Obama should change his campaign slogan to "Yes, we am!" Sounds as stupid as his administration is.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Give ‘em beer!


3 posted on 07/24/2012 6:45:09 AM PDT by jimmyo57
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"There shall be no breast feeding either"...

How stupid can these folks be!!!!

All these folks that are living to 90 drank MILK....right from the cow.

My mom said they used milk on everything....dough balls and milk, potato soup, etc etc.

4 posted on 07/24/2012 6:48:32 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

How much of this has to go on before an absolute majority of parents say, “Enough with committing my children’s lives to these nutcases!!!”?


5 posted on 07/24/2012 6:52:43 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Too many birthdays to keep track, and no one willing to take them back." ~NicknamedBob)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Vegans:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physicians_Committee_for_Responsible_Medicine

The Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM) is a non-profit organization based in Washington, D.C., which promotes a vegan diet, preventive medicine, alternatives to animal research, and encourages what it describes as “higher standards of ethics and effectiveness in research.”[1] Its primary activities include outreach and education about nutrition and compassionate choices to healthcare professionals and the public; ending the use of animals in medical school curricula; and advocating for legislative changes on the local and national levels.


6 posted on 07/24/2012 6:53:12 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I understand that part of this is driven by demographics. Most blacks and about half of Hispanics can’t drink cow’s milk past infancy. And there are Caucasians who are allergic to cow’s milk.
But the solution is to add soy milk or almond milk or coconut milk to the milk offerings at school, not ban cow’s milk for all kids.


7 posted on 07/24/2012 6:54:05 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The article is marked as coming from TIME.

That is enough to simply hit the “next” button.


8 posted on 07/24/2012 6:55:33 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

First thing is always to check out the source.

http://activistcash.com/organization_overview.cfm/o/23-physicians-committee-for-responsible-medicine

“The Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM) is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. PCRM is a fanatical animal rights group that seeks to remove eggs, milk, meat, and seafood from the American diet, and to eliminate the use of animals in scientific research. Despite its operational and financial ties to other animal activist groups and its close relationship with violent zealots, PCRM has successfully duped the media and much of the general public into believing that its pronouncements about the superiority of vegetarian-only diets represent the opinion of the medical community.

“Less than 5 percent of PCRM’s members are physicians,” Newsweek wrote in February 2004.

......But Barnard was trained as a psychiatrist, not a nutritionist. His nutritional advice boils down to one basic message: don’t eat meat, or anything that comes from animals. PCRM has complained to the Federal Trade Commission about advertisements that depict milk as part of a healthy diet. It petitioned the government to slap meat and poultry with a “biohazard label,” adding in its newsletter that eggs should carry these dire warnings as well.


9 posted on 07/24/2012 6:58:27 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: tbw2

>>I understand that part of this is driven by demographics.

Not in this case. These people don’t give a fig about that. They are opposed to eating ‘animal protein’ (their definition) by anyone, anytime.

See comments #6 an #9


10 posted on 07/24/2012 7:02:13 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

11 posted on 07/24/2012 7:04:02 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Any of my fellow aging baby boomers remember when milk was “nature’s most perfect food?”


12 posted on 07/24/2012 7:04:33 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: tbw2

It’s difficult for the large food product producers to control and profit from the sale of milk in schools.

Corporations like Cargil and ADM would much rather see a grain based product like soy. (Not to mention Monsanto’s involvement with GMO’s)

From a health point of view, soy greatly effects estrogen levels in both boys and girls.

Just another in a long list of reasons to get your kids out of public indoctrination centers.


13 posted on 07/24/2012 7:07:14 AM PDT by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The problem with milk nowadays is that the cows are pumped full of (female) hormones to make them produce more milk. Boys who drink this milk ingest the female hormones...and become GAY.
14 posted on 07/24/2012 7:09:23 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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To: expat1000
Vegans:

Thanks for checking. I figured as much. It's so easy to tell anymore when science is created to hide an agenda.

15 posted on 07/24/2012 7:09:23 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Congrats to Ted Kennedy! He's been sober for two years now!!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Well the numbers are on their side. Man has been consuming milk in some form for 1000’s of years. Every single person who has consumed milk has either died or will die in the future. Therefore obviously milk consumption is fatal.

If breathing oxygen doesn't get you first.

Obviously banning both is the only way to protect humanity...

16 posted on 07/24/2012 7:11:44 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Milk Ingredient Does a Waistline Good
“A natural ingredient found in milk can protect against obesity ...”
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/06/120605130748.htm


17 posted on 07/24/2012 7:13:18 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Repeal Obamacare, the CITIZENSHIP TAX)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Oxygen is poison. Stop breathing right away.


18 posted on 07/24/2012 7:13:29 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I’m betting most dairy farmers don’t drink Kool Aid.


19 posted on 07/24/2012 7:14:29 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (If Bill Ayers had a son, he'd look like James Holmes.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

>The doctors’ reasoning: milk doesn’t help protect kids’ bones.
You need 3 thing to make bones: calcium, phosphorus and vitamin D.
If you slather your kid down with sunblock, you are reducing his (or her) ability to make vitamin D.


20 posted on 07/24/2012 7:16:35 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Repeal Obamacare, the CITIZENSHIP TAX)
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To: onedoug
And don't forget the deadly dangers of Dihydrogen Monoxide in our daily lives...
21 posted on 07/24/2012 7:18:44 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Gee, wonder if PCRM has any real doctors in it... most of these groups act like they are legion but turn out to be three people with an email address and a coffee table.

Wonder if they have ties to Fenton Communications, which serves to carry out scare campaigns [remember the alar apple scare?] on behalf of special interest groups seeking to change the public perception of a given product not because of concenrs but to boost some product they are selling by hurting competition.

Ben and Jerry's hired Fenton to generate the milk hormone scare.

22 posted on 07/24/2012 7:28:47 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: piasa

MOOYLENT GREEN ARE COWS!!!!!!


23 posted on 07/24/2012 7:34:45 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (ABO 2012)
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To: Tax-chick

“How much of this has to go on before an absolute majority of parents say, “Enough...”

...it’s getting worse. My wife is a pre-school teacher and the parents use the 4 hours of free time for manicures and shopping. They have zero regard for what the kid eats or drinks. It’s even worse in public school. Parents are “hopey, changey” zombies.


24 posted on 07/24/2012 7:39:06 AM PDT by albie
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To: Daveinyork
Any of my fellow aging baby boomers remember when milk was “nature’s most perfect food?”

Especially when accompanied by an Oreo cookie ;-)

25 posted on 07/24/2012 7:39:23 AM PDT by varon
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To: Cowboy Bob

Soy milk contains a bunch of phytoestrogens, and god only knows what us in coconut milk and almond milk is no doubt going to cause severe allergy in some people.

I know take chalk dust and mix with water, that’s the ticket!


26 posted on 07/24/2012 7:41:20 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"Whether we are talking about children who are forming bones or older people who are trying to keep their bone integrity, milk doesn’t have a beneficial effect on either one.”

Exactly. Saying that consuming the primary source of calcium in most people's diet contributes to the formation of calcium-based structures such as bones is simply absurd. That's as irrational as claiming that the sun has more effect on temperatures on earth than SUVs have. Science today is nothing like it was when I was young and they worried too much about "experimental evidence" and other outmoded concepts.

27 posted on 07/24/2012 7:43:40 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: piasa

>>Gee, wonder if PCRM has any real doctors in it..
Oh, yes. 5% of the membership. That includes psychiatrists and such and there is some question about what they require as credentials from the ‘doctors’.

>>Wonder if they have ties to Fenton Communication...
I think they are genuine fanatics but might also be useful idiots being manipulated for financial gain.


28 posted on 07/24/2012 7:46:20 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: expat1000

Wonder if they pass out free lab coats at their gatherings?


29 posted on 07/24/2012 7:53:11 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

And they now say meat products, milk products and oils are what cause health problems.


30 posted on 07/24/2012 8:28:10 AM PDT by chainsaw ("Two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by debt.")
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To: GraceG

They don’t use chalk anymore, because chalk dust creates an unsafe environment for students (and unionized teachers/staff) with asthma or other breathing products. Fumes from dry-erase markers are also a problem, leading to a huge demand for “smart-boards,” on which they can all watch videos all day.


31 posted on 07/24/2012 8:33:43 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Too many birthdays to keep track, and no one willing to take them back." ~NicknamedBob)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

You don’t want to take on the dairy lobby.

These guys have managed to have minimum pricing on milk SET BY THE STATE here in Pennsylvania since the 1930’s. They could make an elected politician’s life REEEEEEEEEEEAL miserable if he or she screws with them.


32 posted on 07/24/2012 8:37:32 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

My ex-SIL was full of this milk is bad for you crap. She fed her children soy and vegan and very little meat. Her daughter, my niece, was skiing and ran into another skiier. She broke her thigh bone, among others, was in a half body cast for months. When I, a milk drinker, was about the same age as niece, I fell off of a 20+ foot deer stand and didn’t break a bone. I was pretty bruised up, but jumped up and walked back to camp.


33 posted on 07/24/2012 8:42:31 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The term “Nanny State” should have long ago been changed to “Nazi State”.


34 posted on 07/24/2012 8:46:59 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Daveinyork
Any of my fellow aging baby boomers remember when milk was “nature’s most perfect food?”

I thought that was eggs. Or was that a later iteration of "nature's most perfect food?" BTW, eggs are next on the hit list.

35 posted on 07/24/2012 8:57:40 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

True though PA is now one of the few states where you are allowed to walk into a store and purchase raw milk despite the efforts of the dairy lobby.


36 posted on 07/24/2012 8:58:17 AM PDT by free me (Roberts killed America)
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To: tbw2
I understand that part of this is driven by demographics.

I would guess so. Most of the planet is lactose intolerant.

37 posted on 07/24/2012 9:03:29 AM PDT by gdani
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To: ejonesie22
"And don't forget the deadly dangers of Dihydrogen Monoxide in our daily lives..."

The use of that has really gotten out of control. It's so bad it falls from the sky.

38 posted on 07/24/2012 9:05:38 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

So for hundreds of thousands of years, we had it wrong. How dumb we were not to notice in all that time that milk was bad for us. Praise Gaia for the progressives who finally set
us straight!


39 posted on 07/24/2012 9:05:57 AM PDT by Rytas
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To: GraceG
I know take chalk dust and mix with water, that’s the ticket!

A slurry of crushed Chinese drywall and Chinese cabbage juice will be the 0bamaCare approved diet.

If you don't stop thinking that will simply be a forced economic decision, right now!, you will have to go to a re-education camp, right winger.

40 posted on 07/24/2012 9:06:15 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

In the 1950’s we learned that milk was nature’s most perfect food, with eggs at number two, and meat at number 3.


41 posted on 07/24/2012 9:08:40 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Milk is probably the most healthy item on school lunch menus. The government approved school lunch which often consists of breaded nuggets of fused chicken parts or cardboard like pizza with greasy peperoni made from boar hogs with meat too fat for anything else and cheese made from that nasty milk is infinitely better.


42 posted on 07/24/2012 9:09:02 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: the invisib1e hand

“I’m betting most dairy farmers don’t drink Kool Aid.”
I suspect they do. Dairy farming is tightly regulated, price controlled, and subsidized. Watch what the dairy farmers do if any of this is discontinued.


43 posted on 07/24/2012 9:10:46 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: Daveinyork
I was born in '55 so I got the '60s indoctrination.
Trick or Treat for UNICEF and all that.

(even then I thought "why should they get part of my swag?" lol)

44 posted on 07/24/2012 9:12:54 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Problem is not the food, it’s the schools. Shut them down.


45 posted on 07/24/2012 9:15:31 AM PDT by Lady Lucky (If you believe what you're saying, quit making taxable income.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I will say far more milk sold should be lactose free.

NIH says, "An estimated 30 million to 50 million American adults are lactose intolerant." That's 10-17% generally and it's far higher in various ethnic groups.

46 posted on 07/24/2012 9:20:55 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Pontius Pilate 'voters' are arrogant, delusional, lilly-livered collaborators.)
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To: Tax-chick

It’s funny since those “smart-boards” are the least “green” of the options.


47 posted on 07/24/2012 9:23:29 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Pontius Pilate 'voters' are arrogant, delusional, lilly-livered collaborators.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The simple solution is to get the government out of the food-forcing business, and let intelligent parents and the local organizations they control decide what their kids will eat.


48 posted on 07/24/2012 9:37:45 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Hold My Beer and Watch This!)
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To: newzjunkey

When it comes down to real-world choices - especially among the “elites” and the taxpayer-supported classes - “green” doesn’t matter nearly as much as “cool,” both literally and figuratively.


49 posted on 07/24/2012 9:44:05 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Too many birthdays to keep track, and no one willing to take them back." ~NicknamedBob)
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To: DannyTN; ejonesie22
Dihydrogen Monoxide... It's so bad it falls from the sky.

And just think of all the money that could be saved if the Guvment would ban that. Why, everyone knows that dihydrogen monoxide induced deterioration is the major cause of expenditure for infrastructure repair...

By the way, I think I see some rust forming on that new car. And watch out for that pothole...

50 posted on 07/24/2012 11:43:59 AM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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