Skip to comments.NCAA and Big Ten sanctions imposed against Penn State
Posted on 07/24/2012 8:44:32 AM PDT by Former Fetus
Sanctions handed down by the NCAA to Penn State and its football program.
$60 MILLION FINE
The NCAA imposed this because it is roughly equivalent to a year of gross revenue from the football program. It will be paid over a five-year period. The money will go to an endowment for "programs preventing child sexual abuse and/or assisting the victims of child sexual abuse." The NCAA specified that Penn State cannot cut other sports programs or scholarships to pay this penalty.
LOSS OF BOWL REVENUE
The Big Ten announced that Penn State's cut of the conference's shared bowl revenue - it estimates about $13 million over four years - will instead be donated to "established charitable organizations in Big Ten communities dedicated to the protection of children."
Penn State and the NCAA agreed that the university will follow a number of conditions and requirements imposed by the association. Among those is that Penn State adopt all the recommendations in the Freeh Report. Among those are that the university:
POSSIBLE INDIVIDUAL SANCTIONS
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I am also glad to see that Big Ten has also joined in punishing Penn State! Maybe it is not always only about football!
Just curious, what does such a program actually do?
Punishing Penn State is one thing. Punishing the students is wrong. Those football players won their games in the past. Don’t take that away from them.
Penn State should just leave the NCAA .. enter another football conference. Things like this have been done before... UT (Texas) left the Southwest Conference when it proved to be a dead end. Punishing a University is one thing - punishing players past, present and future is entirely another... over the top ... sounds like something obama would do ...
I expect Penn State to leave the Big Ten and join the Big East within the next few years.
The players won on the field, that wasn’t taken away from them, their NFL careers that they got because they played at Penn State wasn’t taken away from them. Big deal, so it isn’t in the record books. They’ll live.
I don’t see how the future of the entire school isn’t doomed. What comes to mind now when you here the words, ‘Penn State’? Going forward who would want that on their resume?
Also look for a big increase in tuition?
I went as far to suggest they change the name of the school and change their team name from “Nittany Lions”. Perhaps something like “Happy Valley University” or “Central Pennsylvania University”, anything to get rid of the “Penn State” moniker, because that will forever be linked to this scandal.
Over time, people forget about recruiting scandals, this will never be forgotten.
They should be forced to freeze all salaries and remove all professors that do nothing, including classes that do not further the students future.
Bring on the Penn State/Paterno apologists in 5...4...3...2...
oh wait, their vanguard force has already arrived.
More likely Ped State will be dumping the NCAA and joining the NAIA. The Central States League needs a doormat.
Going to be funny seeing 10,000 people show up for PSU games in a 107,000 seat stadium.
How about cutting the pensions and compensation of the professors and administrators.
Yes it will. I wonder what price season tickets will be going for in a few years?
That's because the money supposedly will be spent on charities throughout the Big Ten. Does that mean that they are having the same problem???
Maybe it is not always only about football!
But it is always about the money.
I mentioned in the past to you that I’ve become a big soccer fan over the last few years. One thing that drew me to the game was a very talented high school girl who I happened to see play one night. It turned out that she had a full soccer scholarship to Penn St. after her sophomore year in high school. She starts this fall. I feel for her.
>> Those football players won their games in the past.
I wonder how many of THEM were well aware of Sandusky’s antics and never said anything.
... Seems real liberal to take money away from one group under force and “donate” it to a charity of your choosing, as if you contributed the funds.
This is fascism. A country that cannot punish Ted Kennedy for killing a girl should not punish this program.
“Going to be funny seeing 10,000 people show up for PSU games in a 107,000 seat stadium.”
I believe the spirit of the community won’t see a change. You will see the stadium full.
Every perp says that about their probation and parole fees.
Ped State included.
I suspect Penn State will now focus on other sports, like Basketball, to try to build up their brand name, while the football team is in the wilderness.
I was watching video of the Illinois game when Paterno coached his last game, and PSU won when a last-second FG attempt by the Illini clinked the crossbar, and the fans went delirious and Joe, for the time being, became the winningest coach.....and thinking, if somebody told them that within a few months, the Sandusky news would break, Paterno’s reputation would be ruined, and soon he would be dead, and the NCAA would slap PSU with the harshest sanctions ever, outside of the Death Penalty, they would have, rightly, thought you were on drugs or you were an agent of Satan.
All I can say is that I always oppose liberal forced charities.
Oh I’m sure they’ll show up for the first few games out of defiance, but once they get pummeled by 50+ by the likes of Temple, that will change.
>> A country that cannot punish Ted Kennedy for killing a girl should not punish this program.
Life’s not always fair, is it?
It certainly wasn’t fair to Sandusky’s young victims, was it? And that sacred program that you don’t want to punish furnished to Sandusky the opportunity, the bait, the venue, and the protection.
If a company has bad bosses, people will lose their jobs, unfortunately when the company goes under, that’s life.
I read an article about that just the other day, in anticipation of the NCAA ruling on Penn State. Anyone (like me) who thought corruption in college football was a recent development might be surprised to see that it was a problem even back in the 1930s.
I don’t think she needs to worry about anything. The NCAA made sure to keep this penalty confined to the football program (from an athletics standpoint), and if she’s worried about the school’s tarnished reputation she should see this as a good lesson in life.
They also have a dominant women’s volleyball program. I wonder how that program will be affected by all this?
Those sanctions are collective mass punishment that adversely affect people who had nothing to do with the crime — a typical approach of leftists, who are trying the same thing with gun ownership. The sanctions are an attempt to change a sports-loving culture. While our society may sometimes unduly worships sports,the powers-that-be have no business trying to change our culture, as distinguished from punishing criminal wrongdoing.
Hard to imagine a 100,000+ seat stadium lying dormant like that.
And you also oppose the biblical principles of restitution and amends, by your posts on this thread.
Pedophile State are not being fined because they have a lot and someone covets their endowment. They are being forced to make restitution because they did something wrong.
Awful lot of RV owners still need an excuse to tailgate.
Well, I suppose if people still show up for Cubs’ games, anything is possible.
Temple’s program has come a long way. Saw them play PSU dead-even last fall at the Linc in Philly. They are building a nice program there.
They don't play Hofstra anymore, right? (Google "Hofstra Bill Cosby")
Fund "research" programs, "out reach" programs, "raise awareness", and provide "therapy" to victims.
In other words, it's an employment project for out of work libs with useless sociology degrees.
A truly pathetic component of the sanction, and one that is being heralded by all the wrong people.
Typical liberal "throw money at it and it will go away" reflex.
In the Penn State situation there is no discussion of corruption in the classic sense. No accusations of game throwing, paying of players, point shaving, etc. The Team Coaches made awful mistakes and at least one violated a law - a very serious crime for which he has been punished ...
The players, the fans, the students violated no law. And they were not involved in any sort of corruption. The team, the fans, the students are being punished for the acts of the coaches and some administrators. Such Group Punishment of innocent people never works. Talk of dismantling the team is inappropriate ... I think the university should sue and take it all the way up the court system. Punished the Guilty - not those who were not involved.
That we will never know and it wouldn’t be right to make a judgement on them without knowing. The school officials are the ones to blame for all this.
I don't think that punishing the players -- now or then -- is any kind of solution. I hope the current players have a chance to find a spot elsewhere, which will be a major disruption to their personal and academic lives.
As a rabid Temple fan, I say from your keyboard to God's ears.
It will be interesting to see how fast the program goes south. In theory, they should still be a fairly competitive team next season, depending on how well O'Brien's system fits the players.
I do think you'll see a steady decline in 2013-2016. Bowl games mean a LOT to recruits, and to have them assured it's off the table, that's going to hurt.
Of course there's also the possibility of mass defections of the current roster. My guess is you won't see too many upper classmen leave - they're likely assumed a bunker mentality and will prove their loyalty.
I was thinking of something along the same lines...why do we expect these kinds of sanctions against a football program, but we don't hold our elected officials to the same levels? I suppose they could pinpoint Paterno and Sandusky, with one of them no longer able to defend himself; they can't say the same for someone like Eric Holder. He's able to insulate himself in layers of bureacracy and paperwork.
"The buck stops...er, somewhere else!"
As to that “culture” - NCAA has ever reason in the world to try to change it.
When teams violate recruiting rules, what is their motivation? To bring in players that otherwise would not have committed to your school.
What was Penn State's attraction to players? I assert for many, it was the clean reputation of their program, and the image that Paterno created. Now, by covering up Sandusky's exploits, what was the motivation behind that? I again assert, that it was to maintain that image, so that Penn State could continue to attract Blue-Chip players, players that would have otherwise gone to other schools, should the truth about Sandusky been revealed.
So in the end, how is this different than any other recruiting violation?
What attracted them to the school? The team wins. The team churned out NFL players like crazy.
Instead of imposing all of these sanctions that might or might not have a long-term, positive positive impact on how the school does bidness I would impose only one sanction on the school if I were the judge in this case.
What would it be?
Force the school to change its name to
“Pedophile State University.”
Require all of their signage, stationary, websites, and anything else advertising the name to be amended to those three words.
How long would that school last? Not long at all!
Damn straight. There are a lot of sick, deluded "sports lovers" posting to this thread. I dare say they think of themselves as "conservatives," but in their misplaced priorities and grotesque immaturity, they reveal themselves as anything but.
There comes a time when serious people put away childish things.