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Syria Conflict: Aleppo Bombed By Fighter Planes
BBC ^ | July 24, 2012

Posted on 07/24/2012 9:44:48 AM PDT by Fennie

Fighter jets have bombed eastern areas of Syria's second city Aleppo, a BBC reporter near the city says.

The attack is seen as a significant escalation in the conflict.

It is thought to be the first time that warplanes have been used in Aleppo, our correpondent says.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: assad; fighterplanes; syria

1 posted on 07/24/2012 9:44:59 AM PDT by Fennie
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To: Fennie

It’s an all-out war between Alawites and Sunni, with Christians as the bystanders.


2 posted on 07/24/2012 10:06:20 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

The Christians might want to start moving towards the Golan so they can get across the border into Israel once the cleansing begins.


3 posted on 07/24/2012 10:32:50 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (ABO 2012)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

To be honest, I am amazed chemical weapons have not been used yet to start said “cleansing”.


4 posted on 07/24/2012 11:13:35 AM PDT by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: Fennie

Let’s not forget that Syria has all of Iraq’s old WMD’s besides their own.


5 posted on 07/24/2012 11:23:03 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: Fennie

Omg! We need to send in the USAF to sweep the skies for the Moslem brotherhood insurgency! And if Moscow complains, bomb them too! Global nuclear war! ANYTHING to help Shillery, Humma Weiner, Obama and the EU restore the caliphate!

If this act of Syrian jets bombing rebels inside Syria doesn’t trigger the mutual defense clause of NATO,,, then WHAT DOES?

Run for the hills! Lol


6 posted on 07/24/2012 12:28:11 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Those Arab Christians probably understand that they are quite likely to be shot on sight by the IDF.

Large numbers of them fought in the Syrian armed forced against Israel in multiple wars, including on the Golan, and those also mostly hate Israel with a passion.

Yes, its true, such Christians have lived and fought on both sides, but they did have some protection - some - from the current regime.
It is a complex situation especially with the Druse.
I do not envy them their predicament at this time.


7 posted on 07/24/2012 1:08:40 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: bill1952

My brother in law is from Aleppo. Armenian Christian drug out of bed on his 18th birthday to fight against Christians in Lebanon. His father paid his way out of the Army. The whole family is now living in the US.

Syria is a sewer!


8 posted on 07/24/2012 1:12:21 PM PDT by CityCenter
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To: CityCenter

The family is very fortunate indeed. :)


9 posted on 07/24/2012 1:38:25 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Or even Lebanon. They still have a significant Christian minority there.


10 posted on 07/24/2012 3:39:58 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Actually it is Alawites and Druze vs Sunni and the Sunni are purposely killing and ethnically cleansing Christians, Alawites and Druze.


11 posted on 07/24/2012 5:02:57 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: EQAndyBuzz

They are going to Lebanon. Israel has made it clear that it will not accept Ba’athists or Islamists.


12 posted on 07/24/2012 5:05:14 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: MinorityRepublican
It’s an all-out war between Alawites and Sunni, with Christians as the bystanders.

Most Syrians are bystanders. The fighting-age Alawites interviewed have generally given the impression that the war is something they hear about. There is no general mobilization probably because of the fact the rebels are outnumbered (by their own admission) by the security forces. Assad probably doesn't want to call up and pay hundreds of thousands of additional conscripts to sit around waiting to get shot at, when the threat is of the Iraq variety - bands of guerrillas waiting for targets of opportunity to claim that they have "liberated" an area before running away when government forces show up and kick their behinds. He's also fighting the rebels the American way, by throwing firepower at it instead of using throwing in waves of soldiers until the rebels quit. When Assad issues a general mobilization order, that's when we'll know he's backed into a corner.

13 posted on 07/24/2012 4:00:06 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: rmlew
Yes and I suspect there is an unspoken but real bargain between the US and Saudi Arabia that allows the Saudis to bankroll the Sunni militias in Syria and in Iraq. The goal in both places is to squelch the pro-Iranian Shia militias in Iraq and to topple the heretical Alawite regime in Syria . The latter is Iran's only ally in the region and the site of the Russians only naval base. The Sunni /Alawite war will unfortunately lead to a lot of Syrian Christians deaths unless there is a side deal that they can get out via Israel and Lebanon and then be settled here and Canada and Australia. The desired end state is a semi Islamist Sunni block in Syria and Iraq with a de facto Kurd state in the north and the Hezbollah isolated in Lebanon with the Israelis ready to pay them back for 2006. The grand strategy is to continue to isolate and contain Iran and create an Islamacist block that does not direct its Jihad at the US.
14 posted on 07/24/2012 4:04:58 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Fennie.

I didn’t check the thread for postings about how there were two planes, both of which flew out of Saudi Arabia, and how the pilots were al-Qaeda, and how the weapons were being fired by Hillary and Zero, respectively. But you know it could have happened by now — the postings, not the imaginary event I just described.


15 posted on 07/24/2012 5:46:19 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Fennie
Up till now many people thought countries like Syria or N. Korea, Iran and the rest of the autocratic Arab world stockpiled WMD and supported enormous armies in order to fend off foreign “aggressors:. What has happened thus far during the “Arab Spring”, (read, “Jihad”), has shown all of us that these stockpiles are really intended to be used on their own populations, should the current regime feel truly threatened. It is pathetic.
16 posted on 07/24/2012 11:47:51 PM PDT by Netz (Netz)
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To: All

Isn’t Aleppo the city where Assad’s old man went medieval on the Moslem Brotherhood back in the late 70s early 80s?


17 posted on 07/25/2012 12:40:07 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama must Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Well, no. The Christians are/have been TARGETS of the Islamicists.


18 posted on 07/25/2012 12:41:47 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama must Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: robowombat

It is foolish to believe that any such alliance will be the result of all this. Certainly not one which would benefit either the US or Saudi Arabia.

Nor do I believe there is anyone in this administration capable of conceiving or carrying out such a scheme.


19 posted on 07/25/2012 12:48:33 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama must Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: arrogantsob
Isn’t Aleppo the city where Assad’s old man went medieval on the Moslem Brotherhood back in the late 70s early 80s?

That was Hama. Actually, it wasn't that medieval. As I understand it, he told the inhabitants to leave and that anyone remaining in the city after a given deadline would be considered a potential hostile. Then he demolished big chunks of the city where the rebel strongholds were located, using artillery. Pretty much what happened in WWII, except he also tortured and killed a lot of the male inhabitants captured after he sent his troops in to mop up, on the reasonable assumption that many of them were Muslim Brotherhood supporters or fighters. The Wikipedia entry has a pretty good account of the incident, including a quote from Patrick Seale, the foremost British historian specializing in the history of what is now Syria down through the ages.

20 posted on 07/25/2012 3:12:24 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: robowombat

I am pulling for Assad!! I just hate the Al Queda because they killed 2900 people in my country. Assad is Shia. They don’t suicide bomb and they have never done anything in my country and they hate Sunnis. We should hate Sunnis , like Wahhabi cult sunni Nidal Hassan who to this day is hidden from view after killing 13 and wounding 43 unarmed soldiers and women at Ft Hood. You can’t make it up but his damned trial has never occurred. Last week it was Ramadan (sp?) and the month before he had a damned beard. Kill the SOB!! Kill him NOW!!


21 posted on 07/25/2012 4:25:15 PM PDT by marygonzo
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To: MinorityRepublican

I’ve mentioned this already on another post but feel its important enough to repeat,

Isaiah Chapter 27:13
“And it shall come to pass in that day, that the great trumpet shall be blown, and they shall come which were ready to perish in the land of Assyria, and the outcasts in the land of Egypt, and shall worship the Lord in the holy mount at Jerusalem.”

Three things are mentioned here and its within the context of ‘that day’ or the day of the Lord, its the end of the Age,

1. Believers are ready to perish in the land of Assyria
2. Outcasts from the land of Egypt
3. The great trumpet shall be blown

In prophecy, the trumpet being blown cannot be understated. I conjecture this is not a reference to one of the Seven trumpets of Revelation, or Silver trumpets from the Temple, but the Trump of God, the same one heard in Exodus 19,

Here is a a quote from from a June 2012 news story:
the Muslim Brotherhood’s Egyptian presidential candidate, Mohammed Morsi, has stated that Christians will be forced to “convert, pay tribute, or leave.”

In Egypt, Christians are essentially becoming ‘outcasts’ in their own country,

This ‘whirlwind’ of nations falling in the so-called Arab spring may allow for this kind of oppression to go on for years, but it wont be allowed to go on forever,


22 posted on 07/25/2012 6:25:50 PM PDT by captmar-vell
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To: robowombat
The grand strategy is to continue to isolate and contain Iran and create an Islamacist block that does not direct its Jihad at the US.

That's a lot like trying to create a mako shark that only feeds on seaweed.

23 posted on 07/25/2012 8:09:14 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Fennie

The politics of the rebels aside (Islamist headchoppers I am sure), I admire the fact that somewhere on the planet they still have MEN. Men who are not afraid to raise arms against tyrants, and who are willing to risk their lives to attain freedom. Sadly modern Americans can barely be bothered to vote for freedom let alone die for it. No wonder people want to ban guns, they think guns are for shooting ducks or protecting your home, nobody remembers the REAL reason we have them.


24 posted on 07/25/2012 9:14:23 PM PDT by BurningOak (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2830849/reply?c=1)
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To: marygonzo

There is a on going US policy of isolating and containing Iran that is continued from one administration to another irrespective of the party occupying the White House. Its origins are both in the profound rage at the Iranians for the 1979 embassy seizure by the professional foreign service types. Holding a lot of FSO’s hostage for over a year is the about the biggest insult that could be administered to the Foreign Service culture. Besides this the Arabists in the State Department have a generally deep pro-Sunni bias. The Sunnis are the majority ‘establishment’ group in the Middle East and the governing class in the ME is almost entirely Sunni so the Foreign Service has adopted the attitudes of the political class of the region they have made their careers in. The Shia are looked upon about the same way the Maronites in Lebanon are; trouble making trash that need to be contained and periodically given a strong lesson in who is in charge. The fanatical Wahhabi outbursts are just considered the lunatic fringe of the normal and rightful political culture of the region. This attitude is also somewhat mirrored in the CIA with less affection for the Sunnis. There it is just a given that the Sunnis have the big battalions and the deep pockets so those are who one cultivates and screw the rest. The Israelis are so powerful that the Sunni really know deep down they are never going to uproot them so they will just keep up a perpetual tribal war with the Jewish state. For both the state Department and the CIA something like Maj Hassan’s rampage is just greeted with a world weary shrug and a comment that its the Army’s problem and not theirs. The boys and girls at State and CIA feel they have already given at the office and have plenty of their own problems to deal with. That I am sorry to relate to you is life in the big city inside the Beltway.


25 posted on 07/26/2012 12:18:27 AM PDT by robowombat
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To: arrogantsob
Read my post 25. The State Department Arabists have a profound pro-Sunni bias and they are determined to isolate and punish Iran and its proxies for the insult of the 1979 embassy seizure. These people and the CIA are a permanent element of the government culture and can and do carry out long term policies. The people at state believe rightly or wrongly that most of the Middle East is culturally Islamist already so encouraging the Moslem Brotherhood-Saudi alliance to fund and help operate Sunni militias in Iraq and Syria is just logical. The Saudis have a ton of money and the Brotherhood has plenty of contacts and can line up the people to staff the new AQ in Syria and Iraq. For State it is just going with what they see as the natural flow of politics in the region for the CIA it is just pragmatism as the Sunnis are the really powerful group and the Shia are considered to be dangerously unstable so screw ‘em over if you can.
26 posted on 07/26/2012 12:27:23 AM PDT by robowombat
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To: robowombat

Good analyses.I pretty much agree with your realistic assessment.I might add that there seems to be no understanding of Sunni/Shia reality and a morphing of such things as suicide bombing over to Shia when none exists. Its like “we’ll just blame the Shia for everything the Sunnis do” (Wahhabi) and keep buying oil. Not one Shia was involved on the attack on our country— Iraq was in under control and people will tell you that Iraq had something to do with the attack on the US. It really is devoid of truth or recognition of the obvious.I grant you that Iran35 years ago siezed our embassy but they killed noone. Israel not only steals our state secrets with guys like Jonathan Pollard, who should have be executed. but Israel knowingly and willfully attacked the the USS Liberty in 1967 killing 31 and wounding 178 Americans!!! Why not bomb Israel now for that before we bomb Iran for not killing any of our embassy people before they let them go?? Seems like a double standard. But as far a Syria is concerned— internal matter. Stay the hell out of it.


27 posted on 07/26/2012 12:46:43 PM PDT by marygonzo
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To: Zhang Fei

Thanks for the info.


28 posted on 07/26/2012 1:54:49 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Obama must Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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